Hello All, I've compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I've not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I'm not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way. Go forth and edit! Best, Beth Elizabeth Bacon Policy Manager, Public Interest Registry Office: +1 703-956-3962 | Mobile:+1 571-352-5029 www.pir.org<http://www.pir.org/> | Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/PIRegistry> | Twitter<http://twitter.com/PIRegistry> | Instagram<http://instagram.com/PIRegistry> | YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/PIRegistry>
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the "Purpose definition" language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!) [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Hello All, I've compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I've not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I'm not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way. Go forth and edit! Best, Beth Elizabeth Bacon Policy Manager, Public Interest Registry Office: +1 703-956-3962 | Mobile:+1 571-352-5029 www.pir.org<http://www.pir.org/> | Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/PIRegistry> | Twitter<http://twitter.com/PIRegistry> | Instagram<http://instagram.com/PIRegistry> | YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/PIRegistry>
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn't have zipped right past each other. I'll send this version around. Thanks, Beth From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the "Purpose definition" language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!) [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Hello All, I've compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I've not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I'm not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way. Go forth and edit! Best, Beth Elizabeth Bacon Policy Manager, Public Interest Registry Office: +1 703-956-3962 | Mobile:+1 571-352-5029 www.pir.org<http://www.pir.org/> | Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/PIRegistry> | Twitter<http://twitter.com/PIRegistry> | Instagram<http://instagram.com/PIRegistry> | YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/PIRegistry>
Thanks for the great work. All - Please review and comment on the draft with Steve's edits. Chuck From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn't have zipped right past each other. I'll send this version around. Thanks, Beth From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org <mailto:bbacon@pir.org> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: Draft Input Document Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the "Purpose definition" language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!) Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | <mailto:met@msk.com> met@msk.com Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | <http://www.msk.com/> www.msk.com 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Hello All, I've compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I've not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I'm not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way. Go forth and edit! Best, Beth Elizabeth Bacon Policy Manager, Public Interest Registry Office: +1 703-956-3962 | Mobile:+1 571-352-5029 <http://www.pir.org/> www.pir.org | <http://www.facebook.com/PIRegistry> Facebook | <http://twitter.com/PIRegistry> Twitter | <http://instagram.com/PIRegistry> Instagram | <http://www.youtube.com/PIRegistry> YouTube
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect. Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steve’s edits.
Chuck <> From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com>] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org <mailto:bbacon@pir.org>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition” language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU.
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Hi all, Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75) -Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition” language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
<image001.gif> Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU.
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Dear All, Thanks Steve and Beth for the great work. I maybe wrong but I thought that somewhere in the document we agreed (during the call) to include data elements related to each case of this purpose. Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 17:07, Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> a écrit :
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition” language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU.
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Hi all, Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75) -Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition” language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
<image001.gif> Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU.
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Dear All, In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types. I hope it helps us. Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com> a écrit :
I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition” language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Thanks, Farell With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on): I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’ Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either… Maybe I am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com> a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition” language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:04 AM To: Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Thanks, Farell With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on): I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’ Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either… Maybe I am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com> a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition” language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc (No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow) -Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:04 AM To: Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe I am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com> a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition” language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Could someone provide the link to the current version of the document? The link previously provided is to an outdated version. Thanks. [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Goslings Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:56 AM To: consult@cgomes.com Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc (No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow) -Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:04 AM To: Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com<mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com>> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net<mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>>; consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe I am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com<mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net<mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>>; consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org<mailto:bbacon@pir.org>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition” language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Thanks Lisa. I have that but there were subsequent messages referring to later edits and I did not know if these had been incorporated in a common document. Perhaps not. If no one else can do so I can try to incorporate Farrell’s and Bastian’s edits and circulate a consolidated text this evening. However as it turns out I will be unable to attend a call tomorrow morning (1400 UTC) if that proves necessary. [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: Lisa Phifer [mailto:lisa@corecom.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:05 PM To: Metalitz, Steven; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Steve, reviewing this team's email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/ <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/>it appears the most recent copy of the document emailed to the team is: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171024/3691b28b/S... <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171024/3691b28b/Subteam5draftincludingpurposedefinitionlanguage9411675-0001.docx>I hope this is helpful, Lisa At 09:18 AM 10/25/2017, Metalitz, Steven wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_E5B4A2ED43DFAE4F9E710FA54FEF8F626D215756LAEX02MSKlocal_"; type="multipart/alternative" Could someone provide the link to the current version of the document? The link previously provided is to an outdated version. Thanks. [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Goslings Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:56 AM To: consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc (No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow) -Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:04 AM To: Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com<mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com> > Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net<mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>>; consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe II am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com<mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net<mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>>; consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steeve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org<mailto:bbacon@pir.org>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition� language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Please do that Steve. Chuck From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:27 AM To: 'Lisa Phifer' <lisa@corecom.com>; 'Bastiaan Goslings' <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Thanks Lisa. I have that but there were subsequent messages referring to later edits and I did not know if these had been incorporated in a common document. Perhaps not. If no one else can do so I can try to incorporate Farrell’s and Bastian’s edits and circulate a consolidated text this evening. However as it turns out I will be unable to attend a call tomorrow morning (1400 UTC) if that proves necessary. Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | <mailto:met@msk.com> met@msk.com Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | <http://www.msk.com/> www.msk.com 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: Lisa Phifer [mailto:lisa@corecom.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:05 PM To: Metalitz, Steven; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Steve, reviewing this team's email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/ it appears the most recent copy of the document emailed to the team is: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171024/3691b28b/S... I hope this is helpful, Lisa At 09:18 AM 10/25/2017, Metalitz, Steven wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_E5B4A2ED43DFAE4F9E710FA54FEF8F626D215756LAEX02MSKlocal_"; type="multipart/alternative" Could someone provide the link to the current version of the document? The link previously provided is to an outdated version. Thanks. Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | <http://www.msk.com/> www.msk.com 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Goslings Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:56 AM To: consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc (No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow) -Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> ] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:04 AM To: Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com <mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com> > Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> >; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> ; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe II am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com <mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com> > wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> ] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com> > Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> >; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> ; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com> > wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steeve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org <mailto:bbacon@pir.org> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition� language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Fellow subteam 5 members, Attached please find a compilation document in which I have integrated the material supplied by Farrell. I have attempted to place each item in a logical place but I would be the first to acknowledge that the result is somewhat inconsistent and likely repetitive. I also apologize for the formatting inconsistencies. I hope the document gets the basic points across though. I looked for the entry that Bastiaan referred to regarding “provide threat intelligence” but did not find it in either the Google doc or in any list message that I could readily put my hands on. If whoever proposed this could step forward that may be helpful. In any case I share Bastiaan’s concern that this use case, though quite relevant to the overall project, may be outside the scope of this subteam and should more properly be handled by another subteam. (That said, some overlap is probably inevitable.) As noted in my previous message I will not be able to participate in any call at 1400 UTC tomorrow but perhaps what is attached is sufficient. Steve Metalitz [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: Metalitz, Steven Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:27 PM To: 'Lisa Phifer'; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Thanks Lisa. I have that but there were subsequent messages referring to later edits and I did not know if these had been incorporated in a common document. Perhaps not. If no one else can do so I can try to incorporate Farrell’s and Bastian’s edits and circulate a consolidated text this evening. However as it turns out I will be unable to attend a call tomorrow morning (1400 UTC) if that proves necessary. [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: Lisa Phifer [mailto:lisa@corecom.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:05 PM To: Metalitz, Steven; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Steve, reviewing this team's email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/ <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/>it appears the most recent copy of the document emailed to the team is: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171024/3691b28b/S... <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171024/3691b28b/Subteam5draftincludingpurposedefinitionlanguage9411675-0001.docx>I hope this is helpful, Lisa At 09:18 AM 10/25/2017, Metalitz, Steven wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_E5B4A2ED43DFAE4F9E710FA54FEF8F626D215756LAEX02MSKlocal_"; type="multipart/alternative" Could someone provide the link to the current version of the document? The link previously provided is to an outdated version. Thanks. [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Goslings Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:56 AM To: consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc (No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow) -Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
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Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe II am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com<mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
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Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steeve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org<mailto:bbacon@pir.org>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition� language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Thanks for doing this Steve. I took this a step further and hopefully made it more consistent and less repetitive. If there are no objections, let’s discuss this on our call today and make any final edits. Bastian – I didn’t find your version. Please let us know if this works or if anything was left out. Staff: Please have this available for posting in AC in the DT5 call today. Chuck From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'Lisa Phifer' <lisa@corecom.com>; 'Bastiaan Goslings' <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; 'consult@cgomes.com' <consult@cgomes.com> Cc: 'gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org' <gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Fellow subteam 5 members, Attached please find a compilation document in which I have integrated the material supplied by Farrell. I have attempted to place each item in a logical place but I would be the first to acknowledge that the result is somewhat inconsistent and likely repetitive. I also apologize for the formatting inconsistencies. I hope the document gets the basic points across though. I looked for the entry that Bastiaan referred to regarding “provide threat intelligence” but did not find it in either the Google doc or in any list message that I could readily put my hands on. If whoever proposed this could step forward that may be helpful. In any case I share Bastiaan’s concern that this use case, though quite relevant to the overall project, may be outside the scope of this subteam and should more properly be handled by another subteam. (That said, some overlap is probably inevitable.) As noted in my previous message I will not be able to participate in any call at 1400 UTC tomorrow but perhaps what is attached is sufficient. Steve Metalitz Steven J. 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From: Metalitz, Steven Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:27 PM To: 'Lisa Phifer'; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Thanks Lisa. I have that but there were subsequent messages referring to later edits and I did not know if these had been incorporated in a common document. Perhaps not. If no one else can do so I can try to incorporate Farrell’s and Bastian’s edits and circulate a consolidated text this evening. However as it turns out I will be unable to attend a call tomorrow morning (1400 UTC) if that proves necessary. Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | <mailto:met@msk.com> met@msk.com Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | <http://www.msk.com/> www.msk.com 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: Lisa Phifer [mailto:lisa@corecom.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:05 PM To: Metalitz, Steven; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Steve, reviewing this team's email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/ it appears the most recent copy of the document emailed to the team is: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171024/3691b28b/S... I hope this is helpful, Lisa At 09:18 AM 10/25/2017, Metalitz, Steven wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_E5B4A2ED43DFAE4F9E710FA54FEF8F626D215756LAEX02MSKlocal_"; type="multipart/alternative" Could someone provide the link to the current version of the document? The link previously provided is to an outdated version. Thanks. Steven J. 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From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Goslings Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:56 AM To: consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc (No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow) -Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> ] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:04 AM To: Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com <mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com> > Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> >; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> ; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe II am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com <mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com> > wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> ] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com> > Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net <mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> >; consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> ; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com> > wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > <consult@cgomes.com <mailto:consult@cgomes.com> > wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steeve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> ] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com <mailto:met@msk.com> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org <mailto:bbacon@pir.org> >; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition� language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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I might join a little later as I am traveling. Theo Verzonden vanaf mijn Windows 10-telefoon Van: consult@cgomes.com Verzonden: donderdag 26 oktober 2017 13:52 Aan: 'Metalitz, Steven'; 'Lisa Phifer'; 'Bastiaan Goslings' CC: Gnso-secs@icann.org; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Onderwerp: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Urgentie:Hoog Thanks for doing this Steve. I took this a step further and hopefully made it more consistent and less repetitive. If there are no objections, let’s discuss this on our call today and make any final edits. Bastian – I didn’t find your version. Please let us know if this works or if anything was left out. Staff: Please have this available for posting in AC in the DT5 call today. Chuck From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'Lisa Phifer' <lisa@corecom.com>; 'Bastiaan Goslings' <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; 'consult@cgomes.com' <consult@cgomes.com> Cc: 'gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org' <gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Fellow subteam 5 members, Attached please find a compilation document in which I have integrated the material supplied by Farrell. I have attempted to place each item in a logical place but I would be the first to acknowledge that the result is somewhat inconsistent and likely repetitive. I also apologize for the formatting inconsistencies. I hope the document gets the basic points across though. I looked for the entry that Bastiaan referred to regarding “provide threat intelligence” but did not find it in either the Google doc or in any list message that I could readily put my hands on. If whoever proposed this could step forward that may be helpful. In any case I share Bastiaan’s concern that this use case, though quite relevant to the overall project, may be outside the scope of this subteam and should more properly be handled by another subteam. (That said, some overlap is probably inevitable.) As noted in my previous message I will not be able to participate in any call at 1400 UTC tomorrow but perhaps what is attached is sufficient. Steve Metalitz Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: Metalitz, Steven Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:27 PM To: 'Lisa Phifer'; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Thanks Lisa. I have that but there were subsequent messages referring to later edits and I did not know if these had been incorporated in a common document. Perhaps not. If no one else can do so I can try to incorporate Farrell’s and Bastian’s edits and circulate a consolidated text this evening. However as it turns out I will be unable to attend a call tomorrow morning (1400 UTC) if that proves necessary. Steven J. 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From: Lisa Phifer [mailto:lisa@corecom.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:05 PM To: Metalitz, Steven; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Steve, reviewing this team's email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/ it appears the most recent copy of the document emailed to the team is: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171024/3691b28b/S... I hope this is helpful, Lisa At 09:18 AM 10/25/2017, Metalitz, Steven wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_E5B4A2ED43DFAE4F9E710FA54FEF8F626D215756LAEX02MSKlocal_"; type="multipart/alternative" Could someone provide the link to the current version of the document? The link previously provided is to an outdated version. Thanks. Steven J. 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From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Goslings Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:56 AM To: consult@cgomes.com Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc (No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow) -Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:04 AM To: Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com > Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe II am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com> a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; consult@cgomes.com; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steeve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition� language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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I might join a little later as I am traveling.
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*Van: *consult@cgomes.com *Verzonden: *donderdag 26 oktober 2017 13:52 *Aan: *'Metalitz, Steven' <met@msk.com>; 'Lisa Phifer' <lisa@corecom.com>; 'Bastiaan Goslings' <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> *CC: *Gnso-secs@icann.org; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org *Onderwerp: *Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document *Urgentie:*Hoog
Thanks for doing this Steve. I took this a step further and hopefully made it more consistent and less repetitive. If there are no objections, let’s discuss this on our call today and make any final edits.
Bastian – I didn’t find your version. Please let us know if this works or if anything was left out.
Staff: Please have this available for posting in AC in the DT5 call today.
Chuck
*From:* Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:45 PM *To:* 'Lisa Phifer' <lisa@corecom.com>; 'Bastiaan Goslings' < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>; 'consult@cgomes.com' <consult@cgomes.com> *Cc:* 'gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org' <gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> *Subject:* RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Fellow subteam 5 members,
Attached please find a compilation document in which I have integrated the material supplied by Farrell. I have attempted to place each item in a logical place but I would be the first to acknowledge that the result is somewhat inconsistent and likely repetitive. I also apologize for the formatting inconsistencies. I hope the document gets the basic points across though.
I looked for the entry that Bastiaan referred to regarding “provide threat intelligence” but did not find it in either the Google doc or in any list message that I could readily put my hands on. If whoever proposed this could step forward that may be helpful. In any case I share Bastiaan’s concern that this use case, though quite relevant to the overall project, may be outside the scope of this subteam and should more properly be handled by another subteam. (That said, some overlap is probably inevitable.)
As noted in my previous message I will not be able to participate in any call at 1400 UTC tomorrow but perhaps what is attached is sufficient.
Steve Metalitz
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*From:* Metalitz, Steven *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:27 PM *To:* 'Lisa Phifer'; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org *Subject:* RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Thanks Lisa. I have that but there were subsequent messages referring to later edits and I did not know if these had been incorporated in a common document. Perhaps not.
If no one else can do so I can try to incorporate Farrell’s and Bastian’s edits and circulate a consolidated text this evening. However as it turns out I will be unable to attend a call tomorrow morning (1400 UTC) if that proves necessary.
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*From:* Lisa Phifer [mailto:lisa@corecom.com <lisa@corecom.com>] *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:05 PM *To:* Metalitz, Steven; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Steve, reviewing this team's email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/
it appears the most recent copy of the document emailed to the team is:
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/ 20171024/3691b28b/Subteam5draftincludingpurposed efinitionlanguage9411675-0001.docx
I hope this is helpful, Lisa
At 09:18 AM 10/25/2017, Metalitz, Steven wrote:
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Could someone provide the link to the current version of the document? The link previously provided is to an outdated version. Thanks.
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I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc
(No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow)
-Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
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Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe II am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com> a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
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Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com> <consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steeve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com <met@msk.com>] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition� language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:55 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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Here is the version without the instructions. Otherwise no changes. Thanks all and safe travels! From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of consult@cgomes.com Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 7:52 AM To: 'Metalitz, Steven' <met@msk.com>; 'Lisa Phifer' <lisa@corecom.com>; 'Bastiaan Goslings' <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net> Cc: Gnso-secs@icann.org; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Importance: High Thanks for doing this Steve. I took this a step further and hopefully made it more consistent and less repetitive. If there are no objections, let’s discuss this on our call today and make any final edits. Bastian – I didn’t find your version. Please let us know if this works or if anything was left out. Staff: Please have this available for posting in AC in the DT5 call today. Chuck From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'Lisa Phifer' <lisa@corecom.com<mailto:lisa@corecom.com>>; 'Bastiaan Goslings' <bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net<mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>>; 'consult@cgomes.com' <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> Cc: 'gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org' <gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Fellow subteam 5 members, Attached please find a compilation document in which I have integrated the material supplied by Farrell. I have attempted to place each item in a logical place but I would be the first to acknowledge that the result is somewhat inconsistent and likely repetitive. I also apologize for the formatting inconsistencies. I hope the document gets the basic points across though. I looked for the entry that Bastiaan referred to regarding “provide threat intelligence” but did not find it in either the Google doc or in any list message that I could readily put my hands on. If whoever proposed this could step forward that may be helpful. In any case I share Bastiaan’s concern that this use case, though quite relevant to the overall project, may be outside the scope of this subteam and should more properly be handled by another subteam. (That said, some overlap is probably inevitable.) As noted in my previous message I will not be able to participate in any call at 1400 UTC tomorrow but perhaps what is attached is sufficient. Steve Metalitz [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: Metalitz, Steven Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:27 PM To: 'Lisa Phifer'; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Thanks Lisa. I have that but there were subsequent messages referring to later edits and I did not know if these had been incorporated in a common document. Perhaps not. If no one else can do so I can try to incorporate Farrell’s and Bastian’s edits and circulate a consolidated text this evening. However as it turns out I will be unable to attend a call tomorrow morning (1400 UTC) if that proves necessary. [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: Lisa Phifer [mailto:lisa@corecom.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:05 PM To: Metalitz, Steven; 'Bastiaan Goslings'; consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document Steve, reviewing this team's email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/ it appears the most recent copy of the document emailed to the team is: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-5/attachments/20171024/3691b28b/S... I hope this is helpful, Lisa At 09:18 AM 10/25/2017, Metalitz, Steven wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_E5B4A2ED43DFAE4F9E710FA54FEF8F626D215756LAEX02MSKlocal_"; type="multipart/alternative" Could someone provide the link to the current version of the document? The link previously provided is to an outdated version. Thanks. [image001] Steven J. Metalitz | Partner, through his professional corporation T: 202.355.7902 | met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com> Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP | www.msk.com<http://www.msk.com/> 1818 N Street NW, 8th Floor, Washington, DC 20036 THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS. THIS MESSAGE MAY BE AN ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION, AND AS SUCH IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF THE READER OF THIS MESSAGE IS NOT AN INTENDED RECIPIENT, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT ANY REVIEW, USE, DISSEMINATION, FORWARDING OR COPYING OF THIS MESSAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY REPLY E-MAIL OR TELEPHONE, AND DELETE THE ORIGINAL MESSAGE AND ALL ATTACHMENTS FROM YOUR SYSTEM. THANK YOU. From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bastiaan Goslings Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:56 AM To: consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document I tried to give the doc some more structure by following the template format - I also included my feedback below in the form of comments in the doc (No idea what others think, if necessary I can look into this later/tomorrow) -Bastiaan
On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:23, consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com> wrote:
Is anyone able to take all the input and produce a final document using the template? That will help me determine whether a call is needed tomorrow. I will not have much time until this evening.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 5:04 AM To: Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com<mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com> > Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net<mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>>; consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>; Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Thanks, Farell
With regard to the current google-doc version (I assume that is what I need to look at, and that anything else on the list will be incorporated if applicable - if not then I’m not sure what I can reflect on):
I am slightly lost when it comes to the structure. As far as I am aware the Purpose (Name) we are meant to deal with is ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’. And the IP example that Steve provided would then be one Use Case related to this purpose. I do not know who it put there but as is now the Google doc introduces another purpose on page 2, i.e. ‘Provide services to clients to provide threat intelligence and guard against DNS system attacks.’
Besides the fact that I do not understand what ‘providing to provide’ means, the above IMO does not fit the ‘Regulatory or Contractual Enforcement’ scope. Just like e.g. CERTS and LEAs do not fall within our purpose, as was established earlier, so called ’security groups’ and ‘illegal groups’ don’t either…
Maybe II am missing something here?
On 25 Oct 2017, at 14:36, Farell Folly <farellfolly@gmail.com<mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear All,
In attach a compiled list of data elements that may be required by a government agency, a regulatory or controlling authority to ensure contractual compliance. I used the gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en report which was very useful. There is also a good categorization of users types.
I hope it helps us.
Le mar. 24 oct. 2017 à 22:22, <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> a écrit : I think that will work Bastian as long as you are able to respond as early as possible tomorrow afternoon your time.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Bastiaan Goslings [ mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:08 AM To: Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>> Cc: Bastiaan Goslings < bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net<mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net>>; consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi all,
Thanks, and sorry for the radio silence - if it works in terms of our time-/deadline, I can reserve time to look closer at the text tomorrow afternoon (UTC +4, I’m in Dubai for RIPE75)
-Bastiaan
On 24 Oct 2017, at 18:53, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k@gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com>> wrote:
I think we just need to read through and accept and properly incorporate all as one. Let us jus agree what is kept what goes away. I think time to synthesize and fully agree. Most are fine i think it foes to fully integrate and agree and the full language to reflect.
Kris
On Oct 24, 2017, at 18:09, <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> <consult@cgomes.com<mailto:consult@cgomes.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the great work.
All – Please review and comment on the draft with Steeve’s edits.
Chuck
From: gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Beth Bacon Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:51 AM To: Metalitz, Steven <met@msk.com<mailto:met@msk.com>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-5] Draft Input Document
Hi Steve, Thanks! Our emails wouldn’t have zipped right past each other.
I’ll send this version around. Thanks, Beth
From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met@msk.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 9:19 AM To: Beth Bacon <bbacon@pir.org<mailto:bbacon@pir.org>>; gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-5@icann.org> Subject: RE: Draft Input Document
Thanks Beth. I have dropped into this document the “Purpose definition� language I drafted and which I circulated a few minutes ago. (Apologies that I evidently failed to hit send on this text yesterday!)
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Hello All, I’ve compiled the edits and contributions into one word document. I’ve not taken any license to edit and have merely dropped the original language into the various sections of the template document and into the chart (one for each use case provided). I’m not sure if the chart was illustrative in the template or meant to be used in our inputs, but I do think helps to present the use cases provided in a visually digestible way.
Go forth and edit! Best, Beth
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