Thank you Karnika for putting forward a draft that we can work from. Regarding Michele’s point, the overarching question may be how granular do we want the use case examples to be? I would think that, at a minimum, we would wish to distinguish between the case where the requesting party (“A,” though there is a reference to “X” in the first line) is a law enforcement officer acting in that capacity, and where A is a private party (whether an individual or a “legal person” such as a company). These are probably two different use cases. Michele’s question is whether we should further subdivide this based on the type of illegal or “legally actionable” conduct involved. I certainly agree that (to use his example) defamation might be handled differently from identity theft; but if the RDS user in both cases is a private party, do they need to be separate use case examples? Same question if in both cases “A” is law enforcement. One additional point on granularity: there might be two separate use cases even in the private party requester (A=private party) situation, depending on whether A is seeking to contact the registrant, or is simply seeking to identify an address where the registrant can be served with legal process. I believe the former case is far more common than the latter, but both could occur, and they ought to be treated separately because the latter would seemingly require data with different characteristics than the former. Stephanie’s question goes (among other things) to Karnika’s last paragraph. Where the registrant is using a proxy registration service, should we assume that the proposed consensus policy regarding accreditation now pending before the ICANN board will be in place? Or should we assume the status quo? This could change the nature of the use case. Steve Metalitz From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of karnika Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:40 AM To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case Thankyou Stephanie and Michele for your valuable inputs. I think we should discuss this in next meeting so that other use cases can also be developed accordingly. Regards, Karnika Seth From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Perrin Sent: 24 July 2016 23:27 To: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case Just as a question, when we do use cases are we supposed to put in hypotheticals or talk about them as they are now? Eg tiered access does not exist at the moment, do we imagine our use cases as we would like to see them? Sorry not to have been paying close enough attention to this. Stephanie Perrin On 2016-07-24 12:48, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: Karnika Thanks for the example. In order to make it easier to process use cases I’d recommend you break them out as specifically as possible. So defamation would be quite different to identity theft. 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