Just to clarify on the overides, I believe they are actually limited only to other SMD file holders and/or other trademark owners. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:20 AM claudio di gangi <ipcdigangi@gmail.com> wrote:
George, Paul,
When analyzing the number of Sunrise registrations in the last round, how do you suggest factoring-in to the analysis the number of DPML/other blocking mechanisms, that function as defensive, non-resolving registrations across hundreds of new gTLDs?
Once a trademark is 'blocked' through one of these additional marketplace RPMs (for several thousand dollars per mark) - currently offered on a voluntary basis as an alternative to Sunrise, to reduce social costs imposed by the new gTLD program, that mark is defensively 'registered' across hundreds of new gTLDs (at the same time, any of these DPML 'domains' can be overridden by a non-trademarked registrant upon request to the registry operator).
On a related point, we have numbers on the number of domains blocked through these services?
Thanks!
Best, Claudio
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 7:11 AM George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Beckham, Brian <brian.beckham@wipo.int> wrote:
Finally, the suggestion that Sunrises may not be meeting their intended purpose due to low uptake statistically-speaking (also as to documented abuses) seems to widely miss the mark. As J Scott and others pointed out on the call, the intended purpose is to provide an opportunity to get ahead of infringing registrations. Whether that opportunity is taken up by a brand owner is an altogether separate question.
This analysis is deeply flawed. It attempts to justify the continued existence of the sunrise by measuring "theoretical benefits", despite the low uptake rate, as opposed to "actual realized benefits" (as measured by the actual low update, data that is actually observable), when comparing against the costs of the sunrise period (to competing good faith registrants, etc.).
For example, consider a public library branch that is in a large neighbourhood of 100,000 people, but is only used by 100 people per year. Using Brian's flawed analysis, the branch should be kept open, because "theoretically", 100,000 people have the opportunity to use it (even though 99,900 don't actually use it). Instead, it should be closed because only 100 people actually use it. The actual benefits (the usage by a mere 100 users) are what matter, when compared against the costs.
I agree with the analysis of Paul Keating in this thread, who properly weighed the actual benefits (low), vs the costs, and came out in favour of elimination of the sunrise period.
As I discussed in a previous thread on this topic, sunrise demand would shift to the landrush period when the sunrise period is eliminated. Appropriate safeguards could be instituted to reduce cybersquatting in that landrush (e.g. loser pays UDRP costs for landrush registrations, thereby raising the bar for those registrations, compared to general availability, or other mechanisms suggested). See the (long) thread in April 2017, starting with:
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2017-April/001509.html
and with other replies at:
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2017-April/date.html#1509
ICANN's history is riddled with examples of bad policy suggestions that had theoretical benefits, and whose introduction was based on speculative demand that never was realized. It's time to assess those policies properly and honestly, and admit that they were failures. The sunrise period for new gTLDs is a prime example. By Brian's analysis, it can **never** be eliminated, even if just 1 user actually used it, because its "theoretical" benefits can **always** be said to be high.
The purpose of this PDP is to do a proper and intellectually honest review, which means looking at the actual benefits. To do otherwise is to say that the outcome of this PDP is rigged and predetermined, and it doesn't matter what the actual data (as measured by actual usage), actual experience and actual statistical evidence, tells us.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ _______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing list gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg