September 2014 - Internal-cg

Re: [Internal-cg] ICG in IGF - sessions and Talking Points
by Mohamed El Bashir Sept. 3, 2014

Sept. 3, 2014

Kavouss few facts bellow : 1) IGF organizers has decided to have a main session on IANA transition and invite some ICG members and others for to speak. Its not the ICG which selected the speakers for this IGF session, more details about it here : http://igf2014.sched.org/event/e58e6b0d514a8a2b64534cd70fe3e514#.VAbKBlcgvGw 2) This has been discussed in the mailing list and Joseph has proposed talking points slides for ICG members whom are speaking about ICG for consistency of our messages. 3) Alissa gave an update on ICG in the Orientation main session, as a Chair of ICG. Please follow up the discussions and check the different resources/information before reaching to bellow wrong conclusions. Regards, Mohamed On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Mohamed > Pls advise how there speakers were chosen > It seems there are special arrangements in which I was never been consulted > Is there any reasons that some people are selected almost for every issue > Regards > Kavouss > > > 2014-09-02 7:29 GMT+02:00 Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir(a)mbash.net>: > >> Dear All, >> >> I was trying to find a time slot in the IGF main sessions for an ICG >> update, the organizers were kind to include us in the main orientation >> session today. >> >> Alissa as chair will be providing an ICG update in the session at 10:30am. >> >> The main session on IANA transition moderated by Nii is On Friday, 5 >> September at 9:30am to 11:00am. >> Manal, Joseph, Paul and Narelle will be speaking in session. >> >> IGF is a good chance to increase the global Internet community about ICG >> and the process, if you are speaking and would like to provide to an update >> you can use the attached talking points prepared and shared by Joseph in >> the mailing list earlier. >> >> >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> Mohamed >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> >> >

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Re: [Internal-cg] credentials for ICG meeting
by Alice Jansen Sept. 3, 2014

Sept. 3, 2014

Hi Milton, The meeting will be held at the Grand Hyatt in meeting room Tyana. There will be no access constraints. Best regards Alice From: Milton L Mueller <mueller(a)syr.edu<mailto:mueller@syr.edu>> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 2:41 PM To: "internal-cg(a)icann.org<mailto:internal-cg@icann.org>" <internal-cg(a)icann.org<mailto:internal-cg@icann.org>> Subject: [Internal-cg] credentials for ICG meeting Minor issue (I hope) I just noticed that the credential I was issued by the UN expires September 5. The ICG meeting is September 6. Will our meeting be in the same building and have the same access constraints, or are we meeting somewhere else? Milton L Mueller Syracuse University School of Information Studies http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/ Internet Governance Project http://internetgovernance.org

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Timeline V3
by Russ Housley Sept. 3, 2014

Sept. 3, 2014

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Proposed agenda for meeting on Sep 6
by Patrik Fältström Sept. 3, 2014

Sept. 3, 2014

All, Attached is a proposed agenda for the meeting on September 6. Please come back with feedback on this list. Regards, Patrik Fältström

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Heads up on Secretariat function
by Adiel Akplogan Sept. 3, 2014

Sept. 3, 2014

Hello all, As heads on the work for contracting an independent secretariat, the discussion is ongoing with ICANN procurement team to finalise the RfP inline with there practices and policy. I had a conference call with Viveck the Head of ICANN procurement team end of last week and we agree to have the RfP released by the end of this week and have the secretariat contracted before LA meeting. A new mailing list has been setup for this (SecretariatForICG-rfp(a)icann.org) which will be used for proposal submission and discussion of the sub-committee (currently made of Myself, Daniel, Russ and Patrik as Vice-Chair to whom the followup on this task has been assigned). As per ICANN process there will be a need to publish before the actual RfP, a call for Expression of Interest (EoI) to know in advance who is planing to respond to the RfP (this facilitate further communication if needed). The text proposed for the call for EoI is straight forward and past bellow for your information (same as what is in the introductory text of the RfP document in Dropbox). This EoI is planned to be published today or tomorrow and run till the 7th. —— ICANN will issue a Request for Proposal (RFP) to select a successful bidder and enter into a contractual agreement with a suitable contractor to perform a secretariat function for the IANA stewardship transition Coordination Group (ICG). The ICG is setup by ICANN and composed of representatives from different stakeholders groups to coordinate and deliver a proposal single proposal to the U.S National Telecommunication and Information Administration Department (NTIA) regarding the transition of NTIA’s stewardship role of the IANA function (currently preformed by ICANN) to a Multistakeholder mechanism. For more information about the ICG and its role please visit: https://www.icann.org/en/stewardship/coordination-group If you are interested in bidding for this proposal please send an Expression of Intent (EoI) to SecretariatForICG-rfp(a)icann.org by 07 September 2014 The Expression of Interest shall provide the Name of Organisation your organisation and your Contact details. ——— Thanks. - a.

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Version 2 of the agenda
by Patrik Fältström Sept. 3, 2014

Sept. 3, 2014

All, I have started to add more text to the agenda, on the planned outcomes. On the request from Kavouss on reconfirming decisions, I do not see consensus. The contrary, I see consensus for explicitly not doing so. Outstanding issues: - Logistics -- I still not have confirmation from ICANN regarding logistics - Descriptions of the session -- Please come with updates! Patrik

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ianacg.org is re-directing
by Alissa Cooper Sept. 2, 2014

Sept. 2, 2014

Just FYI that <http://ianacg.org> is live and re-directing to <https://www.icann.org/en/stewardship/coordination-group/>. Available via IPv4 and IPv6. If we decide to keep this going forward I can work on getting a cert and turn on TLS or work with the secretariat to do so. Alissa

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ICG in IGF - sessions and Talking Points
by Mohamed El Bashir Sept. 2, 2014

Sept. 2, 2014

Dear All, I was trying to find a time slot in the IGF main sessions for an ICG update, the organizers were kind to include us in the main orientation session today. Alissa as chair will be providing an ICG update in the session at 10:30am. The main session on IANA transition moderated by Nii is On Friday, 5 September at 9:30am to 11:00am. Manal, Joseph, Paul and Narelle will be speaking in session. IGF is a good chance to increase the global Internet community about ICG and the process, if you are speaking and would like to provide to an update you can use the attached talking points prepared and shared by Joseph in the mailing list earlier. Kind Regards, Mohamed

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IGF orientation
by Alissa Cooper Sept. 1, 2014

Sept. 1, 2014

I will be giving 3 minutes of remarks from the floor during the IGF orientation session on Tuesday to talk about the ICG. I’ve attached and pasted below roughly what I plan to say — based off of Joe’s slides, all of our documents, and the NTIA announcement. (Some of it is contingent on the portal link going live and the RFP getting posted, so it may change). So as to give people a simple URL that they can remember to find our work, I bought ianacg.org (on personal title) tonight. I’m working on getting it re-directed it to <https://www.icann.org/en/stewardship/coordination-group>. — ICG Update at IGF September 2, 2014 Since 1998, the US National Telecommunications & Information Administration (NTIA) has contracted with ICANN to perform key administrative Internet functions. Earlier this year, the United States government announced its intention to transition the stewardship of these functions, known as the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority or “IANA” functions, to the global multistakeholder community. The US government asked ICANN to convene global stakeholders to develop a transition proposal. ICANN, in turn, initiated the creation of the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG). The ICG consists of 30 members and 2 liaisons appointed by a variety of constituencies, including Internet users, businesses, and the operational communities related to domain names, numbering resources such as IP addresses, and parameters used by Internet protocols. I am the chair of the ICG and nearly all ICG members are present in Istanbul this week. The ICG’s mandate is to deliver a proposal for the IANA stewardship transition to NTIA. The group’s charter outlines the process of proposal development. The ICG will solicit proposals from the operational communities concerning their respective functions. The coordination group has published a draft Request for Proposals that can be used for this purpose. The RFP requests that the operational communities consult broadly with all interested parties, and the ICG expects all interested parties to get involved as early as possible in these community processes. For example, the Regional Internet Registries are already convening processes to develop a proposal concerning numbering resources; a cross-community working group is being established to discuss proposals for domain names; and the Internet Engineering Task Force is creating a working group to develop a protocol parameters proposal. These community processes are where the bulk of proposal development will occur. If you want to participate, these community processes are open to you. The ICG is further chartered to solicit input from stakeholders broadly, to assess the compatibility of the proposal components that result from the operational community processes, to serve as a central clearinghouse for public information about the IANA stewardship transition, and to assemble and submit the final proposal to NTIA. The target deadline for the ICG to receive proposals from the operational communities is December 31, after which the group will move on to assess, assemble, and seek public comment on the complete proposal before submitting the final version to NTIA. The current contract between NTIA and ICANN expires on September 30, 2015. If you want to learn more about the ICG, the IANA stewardship transition, or how you can get involved, please visit ianacg.org or come talk to me or any of the other ICG members – the full membership list is on the web site. Thank you.

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Fwd: RFP - publishable draft?
by Kavouss Arasteh Sept. 1, 2014

Sept. 1, 2014

Dear All, My rev 2 doc. relating to amenfment to v 14 of Draft RFP has not been taken into account I think it is not fair withourt examining a proposal it should be ignored Kavouss ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: joseph alhadeff <joseph.alhadeff(a)oracle.com> Date: 2014-08-30 11:35 GMT+02:00 Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] RFP - publishable draft? To: Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh(a)gmail.com> Off list: I've lost a bit of the thread... Which of your proposed edits s the one that hasn't been properly accounted for? Joe On 8/30/2014 3:31 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote: Dear All, Dear Alissa What Milton agreed was on consensus building process and not on RFP . What we are talking here is RFP. I have made some changes which are not of editorial nature but essential. There are inconsistencies in the v14 as I have indicated. I have sent that twice and I request to be considered before being published as draft . I am not in the little group nevertheless the amendment that I have proposed are essebntial. However, should every body agree that the draft should be published I have no problem provided that everybody understand that the amendments proposed by me are still valid and to be considered. I have informed in different manner Regards Kavouss 2014-08-30 9:29 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh(a)gmail.com>: > Dear All, > Dear Alissa > what Milton agreed was on consensus building process. > What we are talking here is RFP. I have made some changes which are not of > editorial nature but essential. > There are inconsistencies in the v14 as I have indicated. > I have sent that twice and I request to be considered before being > published as draft . > I am not in the little group nevertheless the amendment that I have > proposed are essebntial. > However, should every body agree that the draft should be published I have > no problem provided that everybody understand that the amendments proposed > by me are still valid and to be considered. > I have informed in different manner > Regards > Kavouss > > > 2014-08-30 7:06 GMT+02:00 Paul Wilson <pwilson(a)apnic.net>: > > I am keen to publish the draft, as a draft, soon please. It doesn’t need >> to be perfected before we do that. >> >> For the record I agree with Kavouss’ suggestions, as amended by Milton, >> and happy for these to be included >> >> thanks >> >> Paul. >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC <dg(a)apnic.net> >> http://www.apnic.net +61 7 3858 3100 >> <%2B61%207%203858%203100> >> >> See you at APNIC 38! http://conference.apnic.net/38 >> >> >> >> >> >> On 30 Aug 2014, at 4:26 am, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Milton, >> > Thank you again for yr analysis >> > Yes I could make a consensus with your last suggestion >> > Pls go ahead and I thank you for that. >> > By the way do you know any ting about a book published in 70 s about >> that group? >> > tks and have a nice week-end ,if I do not hear from you >> > Kavouss >> > >> > >> > 2014-08-29 20:12 GMT+02:00 Mohamed El Bashir <mbashir(a)mbash.net>: >> > After reviewing Kavouss RFP updates, I prefer to keep the text " light >> coordination role" and I am fine with the rest of the updates . >> > >> > We suppose to finished and published the RFP yesterday, I propose move >> ahead and publish the latest version as agreed before the IGF. >> > >> > Kind Regards, >> > Mohamed >> > >> > On 29 Aug 2014, at 19:47, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Dear Manal >> >> , >> >> I am not pointing toward any one who made the suggestion that the >> adjective " Light " being added to the word or term " Coordination " >> >> I am just saysing that ICG tasks . interalia, is to coordinate the >> activities . >> >> This does not any thing to do with TOP down or button up process .Just >> it does not feet. It give the impression that the activities of ICCG on >> this matter is a light activitiwes and not a complete and in-depth >> >> Tks >> >> Kavouss >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-08-29 19:10 GMT+02:00 Manal Ismail <manal(a)tra.gov.eg>: >> >> This was not the intention of course .. I have inserted this clause >> “in order to help ICG maintain its light coordination role” as I thought 2 >> things would make it more convincing for non-operational parties to work >> through the operational communities processes: >> >> >> >> - to make sure the ICG does not have a top-down >> decision-making authority, and >> >> >> >> - to make sure their contributions are considered early >> within the process, and directly discussed with the relevant party >> >> >> >> Just thought to clarify, but I’m flexible should colleagues feel it >> does not serve the purpose of the first bullet .. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kind Regards >> >> >> >> --Manal >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto: >> internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org] On Behalf Of Kavouss Arasteh >> >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 6:45 PM >> >> To: Milton L Mueller >> >> >> >> >> >> Cc: Coordination Group >> >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] RFP - publishable draft? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Milton, >> >> >> >> Thank you very much for your kind response .You are among the most >> knowledgeable and competent as far as I understand the exchange of message. >> >> >> >> Pls kindly note that the term LIGHT before coordination, weakenes our >> actions .It could be interpreted that the coordination actions that we >> undertake is not sufficiently serious as it is qualified by the adjective >> LIGHT. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Would it cause any difficulty that we delete that and just refer to >> coordination without any qualification. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Kavouss >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-08-29 15:54 GMT+02:00 Milton L Mueller <mueller(a)syr.edu>: >> >> >> >> My opinions regarding Kavouss’s proposed changes: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Would prefer to keep “light” in there. >> >> >> >> OK to remove the word “only” from the paragraph on Comments >> >> >> >> OK to replace “direct” with “forward” >> >> >> >> OK to replace “encourages” with “urges” >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Milton L Mueller >> >> >> >> Laura J and L. Douglas Meredith Professor >> >> >> >> Syracuse University School of Information Studies >> >> >> >> http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto: >> internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org] On Behalf Of Martin Boyle >> >> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:46 AM >> >> To: Kavouss Arasteh; Daniel Karrenberg >> >> >> >> >> >> Cc: Coordination Group >> >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] RFP - publishable draft? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks Alissa for your work on this. I’m sure we could continue >> word-smithing this for a long time, and I’m happy to go. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Kavouss’s comment on light: I like the term as it reminds everyone >> that we are not planning to play the autocrats. But if non-native English >> speakers find the meaning obscure I’m ok without. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto: >> internal-cg-bounces(a)icann.org] On Behalf Of Kavouss Arasteh >> >> Sent: 29 August 2014 13:32 >> >> To: Daniel Karrenberg >> >> Cc: Coordination Group >> >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] RFP - publishable draft? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Alissa, >> >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> I suggest some small amendments to make various parts of the text >> consistent with each other >> >> >> >> See attachment >> >> >> >> Kavouss the l >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-08-29 13:37 GMT+02:00 Daniel Karrenberg < >> daniel.karrenberg(a)ripe.net>: >> >> >> >> On 28.08.14 23:36 , Alissa Cooper wrote: >> >> > ... >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Are there any objections to publishing this as a draft (and having >> the >> >> > secretariat host it on our web site and make an announcement about >> its >> >> > existence) by Sept 1? >> >> >> >> I support publishing this as a daft with Elise's corrections. >> >> >> >> Daniel >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Internal-cg mailing list >> >> Internal-cg(a)icann.org >> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Internal-cg mailing list >> >> Internal-cg(a)icann.org >> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Internal-cg mailing list >> > Internal-cg(a)icann.org >> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Internal-cg mailing list >> > Internal-cg(a)icann.org >> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> > > _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing listInternal-cg@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg

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