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Re: [Internal-cg] U.S. Government Funding Bill & ANA Transition
by Joseph Alhadeff Dec. 11, 2014

Dec. 11, 2014

There was a post by Phil Corwin on circle ID providing some more info... I'm not in a position to forward now... Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) -----Original Message----- From: Jari Arkko [jari.arkko(a)piuha.net] Received: Thursday, 11 Dec 2014, 3:51PM To: Adiel Akplogan [adiel(a)afrinic.net] CC: ICG [internal-cg(a)icann.org] Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] U.S. Government Funding Bill & ANA Transition I certainly do not have any inside information. My opinion, however, is that it probably serves us well to be calm and not too affected by political debates. It is important that we get the transition right, and we will. Lets continue. Events like this are only underlining the need for the transition. Jari

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FYI: "Numbers" Progress
by Daniel Karrenberg Dec. 11, 2014

Dec. 11, 2014

Initial consultations of the regional communities are complete. The CRISP team has started its work on the "numbers" proposal this week. You can find all information on this process, agendas, minutes and documents at https://www.nro.net/crisp-team . CRISP team meetings are open for observers. Daniel

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Call #9 - Archives
by Alice Jansen Dec. 11, 2014

Dec. 11, 2014

Dear ICG Members, For your information - Below you will find links to call # 9 archives (see - https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/icg-archives-2014-07-31-en) Agenda - https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/agenda-icg-10dec14-en.pdf Chat transcript - https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/transcript-chat-icg-10dec14-en.… Recording EN - http://audio.icann.org/meetings/coordination-group/icg-10dec14-en.mp3 Recording ES - http://audio.icann.org/meetings/coordination-group/icg-10dec14-es.mp3 Recording FR - http://audio.icann.org/meetings/coordination-group/icg-10dec14-fr.mp3 Recording RU - http://audio.icann.org/meetings/coordination-group/icg-10dec14-ru.mp3 Recording PT - http://audio.icann.org/meetings/coordination-group/icg-10dec14-pt.mp3 Recording ZH - http://audio.icann.org/meetings/coordination-group/icg-10dec14-zh.mp3 Recording AR - http://audio.icann.org/meetings/coordination-group/icg-10dec14-ar.mp3 Transcripts of the audio recordings will be posted as soon as available. Thanks Best regards Alice

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Roll Call - ICG Call #9 - 10 December
by Alice Jansen Dec. 10, 2014

Dec. 10, 2014

Dear ICG Members, Please flag any inconsistencies you may notice (off list). We will share call archives as soon as available. Thanks! Best regards Alice ICG Members Adiel Akplogan (NRO) Jari Arkko (IETF) James Bladel (GNSO) Martin Boyle (ccNSO) Alissa Cooper (IETF) Jandyr Dos Santos (GAC) Keith Drazek (gTLD Registries) Mohamed El Bashir (ALAC) Patrik Fältström (SSAC) Demi Getschko (ISOC) Hartmut Glaser (ASO) Russ Housley (IAB) Manal Ismail (GAC) Daniel Karrenberg (RSSAC) Wolf-Ulrich Knoben (GNSO) Lars-Johan Liman (RSSAC) Milton Mueller (GNSO) Jon Nevett (gTLD Registries) Michael Niebel (GAC) Lynn St Amour (IAB) Jean-Jacques Subrenat (ALAC) Mary Uduma (ccNSO) Apologies Joseph Alhadeff (ICC BASIS) Kavouss Arasteh (GAC) Narelle Clark (ISOC) Keith Davidson (ccNSO) Xiaodong Lee (ccNSO) Russ Mundy (SSAC) Thomas Schneider (GAC) Paul Wilson (NRO) Liaisons Elise Gerich Kuo-Wei Wu Support Samantha Dickinson Eric Evrard Alice Jansen Ergys Ramaj Theresa Swinehart

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Proposal finalization process v4 - Seeking clarification on step 3 ..
by Manal Ismail Dec. 10, 2014

Dec. 10, 2014

Appreciate clarification on the highlighted part of the following sentence: "The ICG will coordinate with the operational communities to have public comments addressed within their components before assembling an interim final proposal." Are components here equivalent to proposals? Does the sentence mean: "The ICG will coordinate with the operational communities to have public comments on their components addressed before assembling an interim final proposal."? Kind Regards -Manal

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Draft action items from 9th ICG teleconference, 10 December 2014
by Samantha Dickinson Dec. 10, 2014

Dec. 10, 2014

Below are the draft action items from today's teleconference for the review of ICG members: 1. Following the incorporation of an amendment requested by Karrenberg, Jansen to publish minutes of 26 November teleconference on the ICG website. 2. Akplogan to forward communication related to developments and delays in the process of finalizing the ICG Secretariat to all members of the Secretariat selection sub-committee. 3. Cooper to update latest version of Proposal Finalization Process document (proposal-finalization-process-v4-wuk.docx) based on feedback on the teleconference. 4. ICG members to provide any further comments on the Proposal Finalization Process document on the internal-cg mailing list within the next day with the aim of enabling the document to be finalized and published within the following few days. Regards Sam

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Proposal finalization process v4
by Alissa Cooper Dec. 10, 2014

Dec. 10, 2014

I have consolidated the comments and edits from Milton, Adiel, Joe, and Russ in the attached v4 <https://www.dropbox.com/home/CoordinationGroup/Proposal%20finalization%20pr…>. I accepted changes on all the text where no one had commented for easier reading. I also inserted a few comments/edits of my own the proposed changes, which I repeat below. Step 1a, bullet 3: Milton suggested using "Whether the proposal obtained consensus” instead of “How the proposal obtained consensus.” I am fine with “whether.” I would also be fine with “Whether and how.” In the RFP, we ask the communities to explain “the steps that were taken to develop the proposal and to determine consensus.” I would consider a list of those steps to be the “how.” Step 1b: Adiel suggested adding a bullet about timeliness. I do not think this is actionable and so should not be included. If we get a proposal after the target deadline, I do not believe we are in a position to do anything other than start conducting the assessment in step 1. Of course, if we get a proposal many weeks/months after the target deadline, it will create some chaos for all of the steps afterward, but I don’t really see a lot of value in specifying how we will handle every possible case of that sort that could arise depending on the exact timing and sequence of the arrival of the component proposals. Step 2: Adiel questioned whether the statement that the ICG’s role “is not to draft a single transition proposal” is accurate. I believe it is accurate, in the sense that we are not “drafting” or writing anything of our own. I added the words “of its own” to the end of that phrase to try to make this more clear. Step 2: Adiel questioned the use of the word “unifying.” I agree that “unifying” and “uniform” are confusing. I believe our task is one of assembly. Our goal is to end up with one document, but not to massage the text of the component proposals to achieve “unity.” I have replaced the word “unified” in this section with the word “single” to make this clear. Step 2a: Joe inserted “possibly conflicting” as a qualifier for “overlaps” I don’t understand what a conflicting overlap is, and I think the proposals need to have a coherent story about all overlaps. So I disagree with this addition. Step 2b: Joe asked whether we need to cross-reference the ICANN accountability work. I think this is already covered by the fact that we are already asking "Do the proposals together include appropriate and properly supported independent accountability mechanisms for running the IANA function?” Step 2c: There has been list discussion between Joe and Russ about testing. I suggested some text as a middle ground approach. In the RFP we do ask the communities to describe any testing they do. I’m not quite sure how the test results could conflict with each other or otherwise be problematic in combination, but I’m happy to check for that when we’re assembling the single proposal. Step 5: I have made the latest changes suggested on the list by Milton, which I think address everyone’s concerns. Alissa

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REMINDER - ICG Call #9 - 10 December at 11:00 UTC
by Alice Jansen Dec. 10, 2014

Dec. 10, 2014

Dear ICG Members, This is to kindly remind you that your ICG call #9 is scheduled for: **TODAY** at 11:00-12:00 UTC See timezone conversion at: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ICG+Call+%239&iso=… Link to announcement: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2014-11-04-en You should have received an outlook calendar invite which includes the call details. In you cannot find it, please send me an email (off-list) and I will make sure to send you a copy prior to the call. Documents will be projected in the virtual meeting room - https://icann.adobeconnect.com/icg. To avoid echo, please make sure to mute your computer speakers as live audio from the meeting is being broadcast from the virtual meeting room. If you plan to use Skype to join the bridge, see attached instructions on how to mute the virtual meeting room. Note that the virtual meeting room will also be used to monitor the queue. To join the queue, press the "raise your hand" icon in the Adobe Connect room: [cid:FB9AFEBD-4B73-4B3F-A16A-3D4355EADF8B] If you are not in a position to join the virtual meeting room today, please let me know. Should you wish to follow the meeting in a different language: AR, ES, FR, RU, ZH and PT interpretation services are available for this call. Please also note that ICG members who join the conversation through the Adobe Connect microphone must use English when speaking to allow for the global multistakeholder community and ICG members to follow the English stream. Agenda circulated by Alissa: * Minutes approval for Nov 26 call * Secretariat update * Proposal finalization process * ICANN 52 logistics We would be very grateful if you could also state your name when speaking as the call will be recorded, transcribed and interpreted. As always, please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any questions, concerns or need a dial-out. Thanks, Best regards Alice

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Draft minutes of ICG teleconference #8, 26 November
by Samantha Dickinson Dec. 10, 2014

Dec. 10, 2014

The draft minutes of the most recent teleconference are now available on Dropbox at: <https://www.dropbox.com/s/ziqk2jjzltmie2p/minutes-teleconference-26-novembe…> Please note that the discussion on the role of the ICANN Board in the handling of the final proposal seemed to be a sensitive issue, so the minutes of that discussion are documented in more detailed form. Regards Sam

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Proposal finalization process v3
by Alissa Cooper Dec. 10, 2014

Dec. 10, 2014

Attached and in Dropbox is an updated version of the proposal finalization process document. Joe did the heavy lifting to incorporate edits based on our discussion in LA. I have also incorporate the appropriate section of Lynn’s text concerning the role of ICANN in the submission process. However, I think the full list of Lynn’s bullets belong in a separate statement that is specifically about expectations concerning ICANN/ICANN Board/NTIA participation during the entire transition plan development process. I think the attached document should remain focused on proposal finalization, and ultimately the content of section 4 should directly reflect the appropriate portion of whatever final content emerges from the thread that Lynn started. Feedback is of course welcome, and there are a few comments in the document from Joe and myself that are worth discussion. I have attached a clean copy; a redlined version is also available in Dropbox. Thanks, Alissa

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