Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ's "Timeline Discussion" document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. 3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 5. Conf call in April 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA 7. Conf calls in June, July
Milton great summary, however can I put in a bid for the following f2f sessions instead/as well as necessary: Nov 2014 IETF 91 Honolulu Feb 2015 ICANN 52 Marrakech Agreed, the sooner this is agreed the better so will even go with the below. Narelle ________________________________________ From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller [mueller@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, 18 July 2014 10:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. 3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 5. Conf call in April 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA 7. Conf calls in June, July
Are we suggesting not having a meeting on the margins of Istanbul? For the non-operational constituencies IGF would have the broadest potential for participation. On 7/18/2014 8:58 AM, Narelle Clark wrote:
Milton great summary, however can I put in a bid for the following f2f sessions instead/as well as necessary:
Nov 2014 IETF 91 Honolulu Feb 2015 ICANN 52 Marrakech
Agreed, the sooner this is agreed the better so will even go with the below.
Narelle
________________________________________ From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller [mueller@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, 18 July 2014 10:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.
3 types of meetings:
- Face to face (F2F)
- Conference calls
- Email List traffic
Proposal:
1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both?
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session
Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA
Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)
3. Conf calls November, December, January, February
4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?
F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
5. Conf call in April
6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA
7. Conf calls in June, July
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IGF Istanbul will be too rush and expensive (I think. Because only few will be there). The next possible f2f meeting, I will say ICANN51 meeting in Los Angels by end of Oct. (at least 20+ will be there). It is convenience and cheaper. Kuo Wu joseph alhadeff <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> 於 2014/7/18 21:12 寫道：
Are we suggesting not having a meeting on the margins of Istanbul? For the non-operational constituencies IGF would have the broadest potential for participation. On 7/18/2014 8:58 AM, Narelle Clark wrote:
Milton great summary, however can I put in a bid for the following f2f sessions instead/as well as necessary:
Nov 2014 IETF 91 Honolulu Feb 2015 ICANN 52 Marrakech
Agreed, the sooner this is agreed the better so will even go with the below.
Narelle
________________________________________ From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller [mueller@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, 18 July 2014 10:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.
3 types of meetings:
- Face to face (F2F)
- Conference calls
- Email List traffic
Proposal:
1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both?
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session
Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA
Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)
3. Conf calls November, December, January, February
4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?
F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
5. Conf call in April
6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA
7. Conf calls in June, July
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Broad participation I think we can get at IGF, ICANN and IETF meetings. Part from explicit travel of course. Personally (as an example) I have already scheduled IGF and ICANN participation. Question is though whether WORK can get done there (say two days like now in London). We need I think (at least) one working session like this before end of 2014 and two 2015. Plus teleconf/online sessions plus email. Patrik
On 18 jul 2014, at 15:12, joseph alhadeff <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> wrote:
Are we suggesting not having a meeting on the margins of Istanbul? For the non-operational constituencies IGF would have the broadest potential for participation.
On 7/18/2014 8:58 AM, Narelle Clark wrote: Milton great summary, however can I put in a bid for the following f2f sessions instead/as well as necessary:
Nov 2014 IETF 91 Honolulu Feb 2015 ICANN 52 Marrakech
Agreed, the sooner this is agreed the better so will even go with the below.
Narelle
________________________________________ From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller [mueller@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, 18 July 2014 10:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.
3 types of meetings:
- Face to face (F2F)
- Conference calls
- Email List traffic
Proposal:
1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both?
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session
Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA
Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)
3. Conf calls November, December, January, February
4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?
F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
5. Conf call in April
6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA
7. Conf calls in June, July
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Exactly what I was thinking, Joe. --MM -----Original Message----- From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of joseph alhadeff Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:13 AM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Are we suggesting not having a meeting on the margins of Istanbul? For the non-operational constituencies IGF would have the broadest potential for participation. On 7/18/2014 8:58 AM, Narelle Clark wrote:
Milton great summary, however can I put in a bid for the following f2f sessions instead/as well as necessary:
Nov 2014 IETF 91 Honolulu Feb 2015 ICANN 52 Marrakech
Agreed, the sooner this is agreed the better so will even go with the below.
Narelle
________________________________________ From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller [mueller@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, 18 July 2014 10:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ's "Timeline Discussion" document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.
3 types of meetings:
- Face to face (F2F)
- Conference calls
- Email List traffic
Proposal:
1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both?
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session
Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA
Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)
3. Conf calls November, December, January, February
4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?
F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
5. Conf call in April
6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA
7. Conf calls in June, July
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see my comments in red Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Milton L Mueller Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. 3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting? F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 5. Conf call in April 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA 7. Conf calls in June, July 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following) WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道：
see my comments in red
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
From: Milton L Mueller Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.
3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic
Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
Open
2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting?
ICANN LA meeting.
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session
Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA
Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)
3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15
Open
4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?
F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan
5. Conf call in April
Open
6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA
ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting?
7. Conf calls in June, July
8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting
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Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting. Patrik
On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following)
WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道：
see my comments in red
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
From: Milton L Mueller Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.
3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic
Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
Open
2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting?
ICANN LA meeting.
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session
Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA
Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)
3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15
Open
4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?
F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan
5. Conf call in April
Open
6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA
ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting?
7. Conf calls in June, July
8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting
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and think about potential CCWG meetings at this occasion, too! Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Patrik Fältström Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 2:56 PM To: Wu Kuo-Wei Cc: WUKnoben ; internal-cg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting. Patrik On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote: Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following) WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道： see my comments in red Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Milton L Mueller Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. 3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list Open 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting? ICANN LA meeting. F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 Open 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan 5. Conf call in April Open 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting? 7. Conf calls in June, July 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
Patrik, Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days. :-) Kuo Wu Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting.
Patrik
On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following)
WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道：
see my comments in red
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
From: Milton L Mueller Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.
3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic
Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
Open
2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting?
ICANN LA meeting.
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session
Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA
Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)
3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15
Open
4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?
F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan
5. Conf call in April
Open
6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA
ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting?
7. Conf calls in June, July
8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting
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The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday. :-) Kuo Wu Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting.
Patrik
On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following)
WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道：
see my comments in red
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
From: Milton L Mueller Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.
3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic
Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
Open
2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting?
ICANN LA meeting.
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session
Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA
Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)
3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15
Open
4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?
F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan
5. Conf call in April
Open
6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA
ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting?
7. Conf calls in June, July
8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting
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Couple of thoughts: I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days. I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f. If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise. I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them. Alissa On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting.
Patrik
On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following)
WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道：
see my comments in red
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
From: Milton L Mueller <mailto:mueller@syr.edu> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones.
3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic
Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
Open
2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting?
ICANN LA meeting.
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session
Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA
Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN)
3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15
Open
4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015?
F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan
5. Conf call in April
Open
6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA
ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting?
7. Conf calls in June, July
8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting
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If we have something like a .5 day meeting would it warrant all the overhead of translation etc? Is there such a thing as an informal meeting? Joe On 7/18/2014 10:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
Couple of thoughts:
I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don't think we should always assume 2 days.
I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.
If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.
I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don't need a call, but at least we'll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>> ? 2014/7/18 22:09 ??:
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se <mailto:paf@frobbit.se>> ? 2014/7/18 21:56 ??:
Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting.
Patrik
On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>> wrote:
Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following)
WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>> ? 2014/7/18 21:26 ??:
see my comments in red
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:*Milton L Mueller <mailto:mueller@syr.edu> *Sent:*Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM *To:*internal-cg@icann.org <mailto:internal-cg@icann.org> *Subject:*[Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ's "Timeline Discussion" document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. 3 types of meetings: -Face to face (F2F) -Conference calls -Email List traffic Proposal: 1.Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list
Open
2.Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting?
ICANN LA meeting.
F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) 3.Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15
Open
4.Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015
Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan
5.Conf call in April
Open
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ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting?
7.Conf calls in June, July
8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting
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I’m assuming all the calls will be translated, so I hope so. Alissa On 7/18/14, 3:39 PM, "joseph alhadeff" <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> wrote:
If we have something like a .5 day meeting would it warrant all the overhead of translation etc? Is there such a thing as an informal meeting?
Joe
On 7/18/2014 10:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
Couple of thoughts:
I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days.
I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.
If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.
I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting.
Patrik
On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following)
WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道：
> > > > > see my comments in red > > > > > > Best regards > > Wolf-Ulrich > > > > > > > > > From: Milton L Mueller <mailto:mueller@syr.edu> > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM > > To: internal-cg@icann.org > > Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings > > > > > > > > > Colleagues: > > Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. > > Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to > be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. > > > > 3 types of meetings: > > - Face to face (F2F) > > - Conference calls > > - Email List traffic > > > > Proposal: > > 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for > end of August > > - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list > > > > > >
Open
> > > > > > > > > > 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in > connection with any IETF meeting? > > > > > >
ICANN LA meeting.
> > > > > > > > > > F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG > > CG could make a presentation to a plenary session > > > > Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA > > > > Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) > > > > 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in > advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 > > > > > >
Open
> > > > > > > > > 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? > > > > F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 > > Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 > > > > > >
Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan
> > > > > > > > > > 5. Conf call in April > > > > > >
Open
> > > > > > > > > > 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA > > > > > >
ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting?
> > > > > > > > > > 7. Conf calls in June, July > > > > > 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg > > > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg > >
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I’m supportive of a monthly teleconference, 2 more f2f meeting this year (2014) and 2 in 2015. I will rather go for IGF and ICANN as potential venues for these meetings in 2014 for two reasons: 1. They both gather a broder participation than say RIR or IETF meetings. 2. They both officially run for less than 5 days so we can be away for less if we add additional day for our own meetings. - a. On Jul 18, 2014, at 18:45 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
I’m assuming all the calls will be translated, so I hope so.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:39 PM, "joseph alhadeff" <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> wrote:
If we have something like a .5 day meeting would it warrant all the overhead of translation etc? Is there such a thing as an informal meeting?
Joe On 7/18/2014 10:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
Couple of thoughts:
I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days.
I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.
If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.
I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting.
Patrik
On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following) > > WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道： > >> see my comments in red >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Wolf-Ulrich >> >> >> From: Milton L Mueller >> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM >> To: internal-cg@icann.org >> Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings >> >> Colleagues: >> Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. >> Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. >> >> 3 types of meetings: >> - Face to face (F2F) >> - Conference calls >> - Email List traffic >> >> Proposal: >> 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August >> - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list > > Open > >> >> 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting? > > ICANN LA meeting. > >> >> F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG >> CG could make a presentation to a plenary session >> >> Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA >> >> Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) >> >> 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 > > Open > >> >> 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? >> >> F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 >> Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 > > Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan > >> >> 5. Conf call in April > > Open > >> >> 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA > > ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting? > >> >> 7. Conf calls in June, July >> >> 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
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+1 for going for IGF and ICANN as potential venues for meetings in 2014 for the same reasons mentioned by Adiel below (in addition to, personally, having to go through less logistics, as I already have both on my calendar) .. Still have to fill the doodle shared by Patrik .. Meanwhile I would like to highlight that, where I come from, visa processing time, for most popular hubs, is in the range of 4-6 weeks, in addition to allowing 2 more weeks to be given an appointment at the embassy .. So thanks for trying to have the venues and dates agreed and settled in advance .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Adiel Akplogan Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 4:53 PM To: Alissa Cooper Cc: internal-cg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings I’m supportive of a monthly teleconference, 2 more f2f meeting this year (2014) and 2 in 2015. I will rather go for IGF and ICANN as potential venues for these meetings in 2014 for two reasons: 1. They both gather a broder participation than say RIR or IETF meetings. 2. They both officially run for less than 5 days so we can be away for less if we add additional day for our own meetings. - a. On Jul 18, 2014, at 18:45 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
I’m assuming all the calls will be translated, so I hope so.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:39 PM, "joseph alhadeff" <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> wrote:
If we have something like a .5 day meeting would it warrant all the overhead of translation etc? Is there such a thing as an informal meeting?
Joe On 7/18/2014 10:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
Couple of thoughts:
I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days.
I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.
If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.
I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting.
Patrik
On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary > condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, > and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see > the following) > > WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道： > >> see my comments in red >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> Wolf-Ulrich >> >> >> From: Milton L Mueller >> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM >> To: internal-cg@icann.org >> Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings >> >> Colleagues: >> Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. >> Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. >> >> 3 types of meetings: >> - Face to face (F2F) >> - Conference calls >> - Email List traffic >> >> Proposal: >> 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August >> - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email >> and list > > Open > >> >> 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting? > > ICANN LA meeting. > >> >> F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of >> the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session >> >> Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA >> >> Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) >> >> 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 > > Open > >> >> 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? >> >> F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in >> APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 > > Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan > >> >> 5. Conf call in April > > Open > >> >> 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA > > ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting? > >> >> 7. Conf calls in June, July >> >> 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg > > _______________________________________________ > Internal-cg mailing list > Internal-cg@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
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Adiel+1 Kuo Wu Adiel Akplogan <adiel@afrinic.net> 於 2014/7/18 22:52 寫道：
I’m supportive of a monthly teleconference, 2 more f2f meeting this year (2014) and 2 in 2015. I will rather go for IGF and ICANN as potential venues for these meetings in 2014 for two reasons:
1. They both gather a broder participation than say RIR or IETF meetings. 2. They both officially run for less than 5 days so we can be away for less if we add additional day for our own meetings.
- a.
On Jul 18, 2014, at 18:45 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
I’m assuming all the calls will be translated, so I hope so.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:39 PM, "joseph alhadeff" <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> wrote:
If we have something like a .5 day meeting would it warrant all the overhead of translation etc? Is there such a thing as an informal meeting?
Joe On 7/18/2014 10:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
Couple of thoughts:
I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days.
I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.
If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.
I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
> Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting. > > Patrik > > On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following) >> >> WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道： >> >>> see my comments in red >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Wolf-Ulrich >>> >>> >>> From: Milton L Mueller >>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM >>> To: internal-cg@icann.org >>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings >>> >>> Colleagues: >>> Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. >>> Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. >>> >>> 3 types of meetings: >>> - Face to face (F2F) >>> - Conference calls >>> - Email List traffic >>> >>> Proposal: >>> 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August >>> - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting? >> >> ICANN LA meeting. >> >>> >>> F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG >>> CG could make a presentation to a plenary session >>> >>> Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA >>> >>> Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) >>> >>> 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? >>> >>> F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 >>> Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 >> >> Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan >> >>> >>> 5. Conf call in April >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA >> >> ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting? >> >>> >>> 7. Conf calls in June, July >>> >>> 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
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Re teleconferences, Normally, calls with global participation need to happen around 1200-1400 UTC, which corresponds to early morning on USA west coast, and late evening in Australia. I’d be happier to have calls in by own business hours, but that tends to leave others with untenable early morning calls. So on that assumption, let me put in an advance bid for any calls to occur on Monday to Thursday only (UTC), giving respect to weekends. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC <dg@apnic.net> http://www.apnic.net +61 7 3858 3100 See you at APNIC 38! http://conference.apnic.net/38 On 19 Jul 2014, at 12:52 am, Adiel Akplogan <adiel@afrinic.net> wrote:
I’m supportive of a monthly teleconference, 2 more f2f meeting this year (2014) and 2 in 2015. I will rather go for IGF and ICANN as potential venues for these meetings in 2014 for two reasons:
1. They both gather a broder participation than say RIR or IETF meetings. 2. They both officially run for less than 5 days so we can be away for less if we add additional day for our own meetings.
- a.
On Jul 18, 2014, at 18:45 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
I’m assuming all the calls will be translated, so I hope so.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:39 PM, "joseph alhadeff" <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> wrote:
If we have something like a .5 day meeting would it warrant all the overhead of translation etc? Is there such a thing as an informal meeting?
Joe On 7/18/2014 10:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
Couple of thoughts:
I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days.
I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.
If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.
I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
> Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting. > > Patrik > > On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following) >> >> WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道： >> >>> see my comments in red >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Wolf-Ulrich >>> >>> >>> From: Milton L Mueller >>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM >>> To: internal-cg@icann.org >>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings >>> >>> Colleagues: >>> Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. >>> Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. >>> >>> 3 types of meetings: >>> - Face to face (F2F) >>> - Conference calls >>> - Email List traffic >>> >>> Proposal: >>> 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August >>> - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting? >> >> ICANN LA meeting. >> >>> >>> F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG >>> CG could make a presentation to a plenary session >>> >>> Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA >>> >>> Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) >>> >>> 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? >>> >>> F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 >>> Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 >> >> Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan >> >>> >>> 5. Conf call in April >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA >> >> ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting? >> >>> >>> 7. Conf calls in June, July >>> >>> 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
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Thanks Paul .. Fully agree with the suggested days and the time zone selected to use in our communications (UTC) .. I'm also very happy with the normal selection of the time of the call, if colleagues in different time zones can cope .. Otherwise, an alternative could be to fix a rotation mechanism and share the pain, i.e. have 3 rotating slots so that each one of us participates, more or less, to one early morning call, one call during the day and one late night call, and the rotation repeats .. We used to follow a similar rotation mechanism for ATRT1 conference calls .. Just a suggestion .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wilson Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:39 PM To: Coordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Re teleconferences, Normally, calls with global participation need to happen around 1200-1400 UTC, which corresponds to early morning on USA west coast, and late evening in Australia. I’d be happier to have calls in by own business hours, but that tends to leave others with untenable early morning calls. So on that assumption, let me put in an advance bid for any calls to occur on Monday to Thursday only (UTC), giving respect to weekends. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC <dg@apnic.net> http://www.apnic.net +61 7 3858 3100 See you at APNIC 38! http://conference.apnic.net/38 On 19 Jul 2014, at 12:52 am, Adiel Akplogan <adiel@afrinic.net> wrote:
I’m supportive of a monthly teleconference, 2 more f2f meeting this year (2014) and 2 in 2015. I will rather go for IGF and ICANN as potential venues for these meetings in 2014 for two reasons:
1. They both gather a broder participation than say RIR or IETF meetings. 2. They both officially run for less than 5 days so we can be away for less if we add additional day for our own meetings.
- a.
On Jul 18, 2014, at 18:45 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
I’m assuming all the calls will be translated, so I hope so.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:39 PM, "joseph alhadeff" <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> wrote:
If we have something like a .5 day meeting would it warrant all the overhead of translation etc? Is there such a thing as an informal meeting?
Joe On 7/18/2014 10:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
Couple of thoughts:
I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days.
I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.
If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.
I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
> Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting. > > Patrik > > On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the following) >> >> WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道： >> >>> see my comments in red >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Wolf-Ulrich >>> >>> >>> From: Milton L Mueller >>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM >>> To: internal-cg@icann.org >>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings >>> >>> Colleagues: >>> Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. >>> Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. >>> >>> 3 types of meetings: >>> - Face to face (F2F) >>> - Conference calls >>> - Email List traffic >>> >>> Proposal: >>> 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August >>> - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting? >> >> ICANN LA meeting. >> >>> >>> F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG >>> CG could make a presentation to a plenary session >>> >>> Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA >>> >>> Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) >>> >>> 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? >>> >>> F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 >>> Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 >> >> Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan >> >>> >>> 5. Conf call in April >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA >> >> ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting? >> >>> >>> 7. Conf calls in June, July >>> >>> 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
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I’m fine with choosing a specific day at 13:00 UTC and reserving that on a consistent basis if others on the US west coast and Australia and NZ are too. Alissa On 7/24/14, 8:50 AM, "Manal Ismail" <manal@tra.gov.eg> wrote:
Thanks Paul .. Fully agree with the suggested days and the time zone selected to use in our communications (UTC) .. I'm also very happy with the normal selection of the time of the call, if colleagues in different time zones can cope ..
Otherwise, an alternative could be to fix a rotation mechanism and share the pain, i.e. have 3 rotating slots so that each one of us participates, more or less, to one early morning call, one call during the day and one late night call, and the rotation repeats .. We used to follow a similar rotation mechanism for ATRT1 conference calls ..
Just a suggestion ..
Kind Regards --Manal
-----Original Message----- From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wilson Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:39 PM To: Coordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings
Re teleconferences,
Normally, calls with global participation need to happen around 1200-1400 UTC, which corresponds to early morning on USA west coast, and late evening in Australia. I’d be happier to have calls in by own business hours, but that tends to leave others with untenable early morning calls.
So on that assumption, let me put in an advance bid for any calls to occur on Monday to Thursday only (UTC), giving respect to weekends.
Thanks.
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On 19 Jul 2014, at 12:52 am, Adiel Akplogan <adiel@afrinic.net> wrote:
I’m supportive of a monthly teleconference, 2 more f2f meeting this year (2014) and 2 in 2015. I will rather go for IGF and ICANN as potential venues for these meetings in 2014 for two reasons:
1. They both gather a broder participation than say RIR or IETF meetings. 2. They both officially run for less than 5 days so we can be away for less if we add additional day for our own meetings.
- a.
On Jul 18, 2014, at 18:45 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
I’m assuming all the calls will be translated, so I hope so.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:39 PM, "joseph alhadeff" <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> wrote:
If we have something like a .5 day meeting would it warrant all the overhead of translation etc? Is there such a thing as an informal meeting?
Joe On 7/18/2014 10:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
Couple of thoughts:
I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days.
I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.
If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.
I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
> Patrik, > > Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days. > > :-) > > Kuo Wu > > Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道： > >> Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days >>of ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that >>would be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already >>scheduled meetings. Not during the meeting. >> >> Patrik >> >> On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary >>>condition). There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, >>>and 7~8 joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see >>>the following) >>> >>> WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道： >>> >>>> see my comments in red >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Wolf-Ulrich >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Milton L Mueller >>>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM >>>> To: internal-cg@icann.org >>>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings >>>> >>>> Colleagues: >>>> Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of >>>>meetings. >>>> Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as >>>>meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and >>>>expectations of milestones. >>>> >>>> 3 types of meetings: >>>> - Face to face (F2F) >>>> - Conference calls >>>> - Email List traffic >>>> >>>> Proposal: >>>> 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 >>>>call for end of August >>>> - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email >>>>and list >>> >>> Open >>> >>>> >>>> 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? >>>> or in connection with any IETF meeting? >>> >>> ICANN LA meeting. >>> >>>> >>>> F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of >>>>the CG >>>> CG could make a presentation to a plenary session >>>> >>>> Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA >>>> >>>> Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) >>>> >>>> 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set >>>>calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 >>> >>> Open >>> >>>> >>>> 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? >>>> >>>> F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 >>>> Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 >>> >>> Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan >>> >>>> >>>> 5. Conf call in April >>> >>> Open >>> >>>> >>>> 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA >>> >>> ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting? >>> >>>> >>>> 7. Conf calls in June, July >>>> >>>> 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Internal-cg mailing list >>>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Internal-cg mailing list >>>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >
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Rotating slots are a good suggestion. We use it on GNSO council as well. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Manal Ismail Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 2:50 PM To: Paul Wilson ; Coordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Thanks Paul .. Fully agree with the suggested days and the time zone selected to use in our communications (UTC) .. I'm also very happy with the normal selection of the time of the call, if colleagues in different time zones can cope .. Otherwise, an alternative could be to fix a rotation mechanism and share the pain, i.e. have 3 rotating slots so that each one of us participates, more or less, to one early morning call, one call during the day and one late night call, and the rotation repeats .. We used to follow a similar rotation mechanism for ATRT1 conference calls .. Just a suggestion .. Kind Regards --Manal -----Original Message----- From: internal-cg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul Wilson Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:39 PM To: Coordination Group Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Re teleconferences, Normally, calls with global participation need to happen around 1200-1400 UTC, which corresponds to early morning on USA west coast, and late evening in Australia. I’d be happier to have calls in by own business hours, but that tends to leave others with untenable early morning calls. So on that assumption, let me put in an advance bid for any calls to occur on Monday to Thursday only (UTC), giving respect to weekends. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC <dg@apnic.net> http://www.apnic.net +61 7 3858 3100 See you at APNIC 38! http://conference.apnic.net/38 On 19 Jul 2014, at 12:52 am, Adiel Akplogan <adiel@afrinic.net> wrote:
I’m supportive of a monthly teleconference, 2 more f2f meeting this year (2014) and 2 in 2015. I will rather go for IGF and ICANN as potential venues for these meetings in 2014 for two reasons:
1. They both gather a broder participation than say RIR or IETF meetings. 2. They both officially run for less than 5 days so we can be away for less if we add additional day for our own meetings.
- a.
On Jul 18, 2014, at 18:45 PM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:
I’m assuming all the calls will be translated, so I hope so.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:39 PM, "joseph alhadeff" <joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com> wrote:
If we have something like a .5 day meeting would it warrant all the overhead of translation etc? Is there such a thing as an informal meeting?
Joe On 7/18/2014 10:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
Couple of thoughts:
I think we can meet for less than two days in the future. Like 1.5, 1, or .5 days, depending on where we are in the process. For example, I think it would be useful to meet at IGF, but given that there are only six weeks between now and then and some people might be on holiday in August, a shorter meeting with a narrow focus on specific action items I don’t think we should always assume 2 days.
I think we should plan the f2f meetings for the rest of this calendar year, but perhaps not further than that to give us some flexibility to figure out if we need to keep meeting f2f.
If we want to have two more f2f meetings this year, I think a short one coincident with the IGF and a longer one coincident with the IETF are appropriately spaced for that. If we want to have one, I think a longer one coincident with ICANN51 (or the IETF, but that might be less convenient) would be appropriate time-wise.
I think we should find a slot (or maybe two alternating slots to share the time zone pain) for a bi-weekly 1-hour conference call and reserve that slot starting two weeks from now and going for the duration of our work together. We can always cancel any particular week if we don’t need a call, but at least we’ll have them slotted in our calendars if we need them.
Alissa
On 7/18/14, 3:11 PM, "Wu Kuo-Wei" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The regular ICANN meeting finish on Thursday. So we can have CG meeting from Friday and Saturday.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> 於 2014/7/18 22:09 寫道：
Patrik,
Well, after the meeting. I am free for two days.
:-)
Kuo Wu
Patrik Fältström <paf@frobbit.se> 於 2014/7/18 21:56 寫道：
> Question from me to you Kuo-Wei is whether you can free two days of > ICANN meeting in LA for CG work? As chair of SSAC I say that would > be difficult if not the CG meeting is adjacent to already scheduled > meetings. Not during the meeting. > > Patrik > > On 18 jul 2014, at 15:42, Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here is the data for us to recognize (but not necessary condition). >> There are 24 people joining ICANN meeting regularly, and 7~8 >> joining IETF meeting. So my comment will be: (please see the >> following) >> >> WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> 於 2014/7/18 21:26 寫道： >> >>> see my comments in red >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Wolf-Ulrich >>> >>> >>> From: Milton L Mueller >>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM >>> To: internal-cg@icann.org >>> Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings >>> >>> Colleagues: >>> Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of >>> meetings. >>> Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings >>> need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of >>> milestones. >>> >>> 3 types of meetings: >>> - Face to face (F2F) >>> - Conference calls >>> - Email List traffic >>> >>> Proposal: >>> 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 >>> call for end of August >>> - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and >>> list >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? >>> or in connection with any IETF meeting? >> >> ICANN LA meeting. >> >>> >>> F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the >>> CG >>> CG could make a presentation to a plenary session >>> >>> Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA >>> >>> Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) >>> >>> 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set >>> calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? >>> >>> F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 >>> Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 >> >> Prefer APNIC 39 in Japan >> >>> >>> 5. Conf call in April >> >> Open >> >>> >>> 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA >> >> ICANN 52 Marrekech meeting? >> >>> >>> 7. Conf calls in June, July >>> >>> 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Internal-cg mailing list >>> Internal-cg@icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Internal-cg mailing list >> Internal-cg@icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
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Good suggestions, WU. Regarding September, If we decide we want to meet F2F in September the Istanbul IGF would be the event with the most diverse and broad mix of stakeholders, far more so than an IETF meeting which would be confined to techies. From: WUKnoben [mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:27 AM To: Milton L Mueller; internal-cg@icann.org Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings see my comments in red Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Milton L Mueller<mailto:mueller@syr.edu> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 1:42 PM To: internal-cg@icann.org<mailto:internal-cg@icann.org> Subject: [Internal-cg] Primitive notes on scheduling meetings Colleagues: Refer to this message as the framework for our discussion of meetings. Also refer to Russ’s “Timeline Discussion” document, as meetings need to be coordinated with our deadlines and expectations of milestones. 3 types of meetings: - Face to face (F2F) - Conference calls - Email List traffic Proposal: 1. Rely on list traffic remainder of July & August: fix 1 call for end of August - charter and call for proposals should be finalized via email and list 2. Decision: Next f2f: Istanbul IGF or ICANN LA? or Both? or in connection with any IETF meeting? F2F - Istanbul IGF Sept X - to publicize and promote work of the CG CG could make a presentation to a plenary session Or, F2F in ICANN meeting in LA Or, F2F in September (IGF) and October (ICANN) 3. Conf calls November, December, January, February: set calls in advance for at least every 4 weeks also beyond Feb 15 4. Receipt of proposals by beginning of March 2015? F2F in Dallas, TX near or during IETF 92, Mar 22-27 Or, F2F in APNIC 39 in Japan 24 Feb - 6 March 2015 5. Conf call in April 6. F2F in May 2015 at a location TBA 7. Conf calls in June, July 8. 9. 8. Reminders + action lists for every call/meeting ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Internal-cg mailing list Internal-cg@icann.org<mailto:Internal-cg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-cg
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Wu Kuo-Wei -
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