Let the record show that Lance, Jacqueline and Dev cannot be successfully challenged on fact. A statement may not be communicated as a statement from the LACRALO membership without the membership indicating its support or not. There is a mechanism and a procedure for that to be determined. Neither the mechanism nor the procedure was exercised in this case. +1 to Dev's further statement. -Carlton Samuels ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 1:31 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Regarding the proposed statement:
I do not support the draft statement since the statement is directed to ICANN for the ICANN board to not delegate .amazon. As Lance and Carlton has pointed out, Amazon Inc, are in sustained negotiations with ACTO and we should wait to review the outcomes of those negotiations.
The core grievance in the statement seems to me to be the lack of multistakeholder inclusion such as civil society and indigenous peoples in ACTO where such civil society and indigenous peoples can raise their issues and be heard, seen and respected by the governments in ACTO. As such, any such statement should be directed to the governments of Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Peru, Suriname and Venezuela calling on those governments for more inclusion of civil society and indigenous peoples in ACTO.
Governments' treatment of civil society and indigenous peoples are not the responsibility of ICANN or the Amazon company.
Regards,
Dev Anand
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 2:29 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
I also agree with Jacqueline, Lance, and Bartlett on this. This cannot be considered a LACRALO statement given the insufficient process to discuss the statement properly and support.
If organisations want to support on their own, then as Jacqueline suggested change it from LACRALO to " Joint Statement from organizations in the LAC region"
On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 10:01 AM Bartlett Morgan <me@bartlettmorgan.com> wrote:
As a matter of process, I must chime in to agree with Jacqueline on this.
It is, in my estimation, necessary to get support from LACRALO for publishing a statement like this. In order to achieve that, I imagine that some opportunity must exist for us to openly discuss the statement that we are supposed to fall behind.
In the very least, LACRALO members must, by a majority of our numbers, indicate our support for this statement in order for it to validly sport the LACRALO sign-off.
Failing this, I am not comfortable going on record in support of this statement.
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*From: *Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> *Sent: *Thursday, April 4, 2019 8:50 AM *To: *Harold Arcos <harold.arcos@gmail.com> *Cc: *LACRALO discussion list <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [lac-discuss-en] [.AMAZON] LACRALO about .AMAZON delegation
Hi Harold
I am not in agreement that any ALS's endorsement alone is sufficient for the statement to be endorsed as a LACRALO statement. If this is to be a LACRALO statement, should it not follow our procedures and be put on the wiki for amendments and comments and then voted upon by the membership?
I think that the current process doesn't suffice to say that it is a LACRALO statement.
However, I have no problem with it being put forward as a "Joint Statement of ALSes of the LAC region (as shown by the undersigned)"
Regards
Jacqueline
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019, 4:51 PM Harold Arcos, <harold.arcos@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Region
In this way, we share the ICANN Board Letter and the LACRALO Declaration initiatives that together represent the arguments and positions of several organizations on the Delegation of the Geographic Domain Name .AMAZON.
We invite you to review it and, if you consider it, to endorse with your signatures no later than Thursday 4 April at 23-UTC.
The document in .PDF version will find them with the name *Position LACRALO on Delegation .AMAZON:* https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=102138233
For quick review and download on any device, versions in .PDF format are also attached to this email
Best regards
Sergio Salinas - LACRALO President Harold Arcos - LACRALO Secretary
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