So let's stop punting back and forth. Jose by this email I consider your position based on icann staff's opinion and based on the division of opinion ...request that you and our secretary initiate a vote on the inclusion or removal of the candidate. Regards Cintra Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile. -----Original Message----- From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> Sender: lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:29:39 To: Webmaster<rok@bango.org.bb> Cc: <lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Final Consideration - Member of ALAC Election(Part 2) ROK, If I follow your argument, nobody has the responsibility to see the RoP is obeyed. And in the case of a breach, everybody has a duty to sit on their hands. No my brother, somebody must make the call. That is a role for the presiding officer. And if you disagree on the call, we have a way to resolve that disagreement. Call for a division and count the votes. - Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 *Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Webmaster <rok@bango.org.bb> wrote:
Carlton,
My understanding of a petition is that you have a grievance. Then you have to get a certain amount of members to agree to back the petition before it becomes valid. This depends on so many factors that for a chair to make a decision that requires members to petition should be a decision of a serious nature and not one so simplistic and obvious that does not even require a decision by the Chair. The Chair is sticking his neck out and I am not going to validate executive authority where it does not exist.
ROK
*From:* Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels@gmail.com> *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:49 PM *To:* Webmaster <rok@bango.org.bb> *Cc:* Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> ; lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org *Subject:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] Final Consideration - Member of ALAC Election(Part 2)
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Webmaster <rok@bango.org.bb> wrote:
the Chair has a right to interpret rules carte blanche.
We do not accept our Chair as if he was the Bishop of Rome; infallible in all things.
As the presiding officer, the Chair's principal role is to interpret rules but not 'carte blanche'. He is constrained by the RoP in the first instance.
Here's the good thing. Every other member also has an unfettered right to interpret said rules.
And since for our purposes, the Chair is and must be a member in ordinary, every other member has the right to challenge any and every interpretation of the Chair.
Here's the kicker. Every member retains the absolute right to petition every other member to your point of view. We call that a vote.
I say again, if you fell aggrieved by the declaration, then there is a remedy. Exercise it if you must.
- CAS
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