[lac-discuss-es] Declaración Lacralo Marzo 2022
[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]] Dear Region, we hope you have a productive week, In this way we give continuity to the initiative of Create, Approve and Publish a LACRALO Declaration based on our scope of the situation geopolitics affecting internet users in Europe. Attached hereto is the Draft containing the contributions received at this time: Please make the contributions you wish to suggest through this mail thread. Kind regards claire craig
Hi Claire: I don't think translation services including parsing attached documents; the pdf payload will not be translated. The content must be translated separately...or reproduced on the Spanish list for translation in line. Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 12:48, <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]]
Dear Region, we hope you have a productive week,
In this way we give continuity to the initiative of Create, Approve and Publish a LACRALO Declaration based on our scope of the situation geopolitics affecting internet users in Europe.
Attached hereto is the Draft containing the contributions received at this time:
Please make the contributions you wish to suggest through this mail thread.
Kind regards
claire craig _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
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HI Claire, Thanks, but the document is only in Spanish. Can I please request a translation from ICANN Staff so that I can properly understand the statement that LACRALO means to make. Can I also request an extension on the time give to respond, given that I will need to wait on the translation of the statement before I can give any consideration to the text? Regards JacquelineA. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 1:48 PM <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]]
Dear Region, we hope you have a productive week,
In this way we give continuity to the initiative of Create, Approve and Publish a LACRALO Declaration based on our scope of the situation geopolitics affecting internet users in Europe.
Attached hereto is the Draft containing the contributions received at this time:
Please make the contributions you wish to suggest through this mail thread.
Kind regards
claire craig _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
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It's also disappointing to me that the draft from LACRALO was published to the larger At-Large list before members of LACRALO have even had a chance to view it. Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 2:11 PM Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
HI Claire, Thanks, but the document is only in Spanish. Can I please request a translation from ICANN Staff so that I can properly understand the statement that LACRALO means to make. Can I also request an extension on the time give to respond, given that I will need to wait on the translation of the statement before I can give any consideration to the text? Regards
JacquelineA. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 1:48 PM <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]]
Dear Region, we hope you have a productive week,
In this way we give continuity to the initiative of Create, Approve and Publish a LACRALO Declaration based on our scope of the situation geopolitics affecting internet users in Europe.
Attached hereto is the Draft containing the contributions received at this time:
Please make the contributions you wish to suggest through this mail thread.
Kind regards
claire craig _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
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Here is the unofficial translation from ICANN Staff: "Declaration of support from LACRALO, which represents the interests of end Internet users within the framework of the ICANN community, supports and subscribes to the recent statement issued by EURALO with regards to the situation of Internet users in the context of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. We also ask the ICANN Board to take extreme measures to guarantee the stability and resilience of the Domain Name system infrastructure in countries in conflict and around the world." Thank you very much! On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 14:11, Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
HI Claire, Thanks, but the document is only in Spanish. Can I please request a translation from ICANN Staff so that I can properly understand the statement that LACRALO means to make. Can I also request an extension on the time give to respond, given that I will need to wait on the translation of the statement before I can give any consideration to the text? Regards
JacquelineA. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 1:48 PM <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]]
Dear Region, we hope you have a productive week,
In this way we give continuity to the initiative of Create, Approve and Publish a LACRALO Declaration based on our scope of the situation geopolitics affecting internet users in Europe.
Attached hereto is the Draft containing the contributions received at this time:
Please make the contributions you wish to suggest through this mail thread.
Kind regards
claire craig _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
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Thanks! Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 2:13 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the unofficial translation from ICANN Staff:
"Declaration of support from LACRALO, which represents the interests of end Internet users within the framework of the ICANN community, supports and subscribes to the recent statement issued by EURALO with regards to the situation of Internet users in the context of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
We also ask the ICANN Board to take extreme measures to guarantee the stability and resilience of the Domain Name system infrastructure in countries in conflict and around the world."
Thank you very much!
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 14:11, Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
HI Claire, Thanks, but the document is only in Spanish. Can I please request a translation from ICANN Staff so that I can properly understand the statement that LACRALO means to make. Can I also request an extension on the time give to respond, given that I will need to wait on the translation of the statement before I can give any consideration to the text? Regards
JacquelineA. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 1:48 PM <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]]
Dear Region, we hope you have a productive week,
In this way we give continuity to the initiative of Create, Approve and Publish a LACRALO Declaration based on our scope of the situation geopolitics affecting internet users in Europe.
Attached hereto is the Draft containing the contributions received at this time:
Please make the contributions you wish to suggest through this mail thread.
Kind regards
claire craig _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
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Thanks for this. Since I don't think EURALO's statement was ever posted to the LACRALO list, here's the EURALO statement which the draft LACRALO statement wants to support : https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+Communique+on+Ukraine?prev... I do have concerns with LACRALO's statement. I'll try to expand on this in another email. Dev Anand On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 2:13 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the unofficial translation from ICANN Staff:
"Declaration of support from LACRALO, which represents the interests of end Internet users within the framework of the ICANN community, supports and subscribes to the recent statement issued by EURALO with regards to the situation of Internet users in the context of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
We also ask the ICANN Board to take extreme measures to guarantee the stability and resilience of the Domain Name system infrastructure in countries in conflict and around the world."
Thank you very much!
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 14:11, Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
HI Claire, Thanks, but the document is only in Spanish. Can I please request a translation from ICANN Staff so that I can properly understand the statement that LACRALO means to make. Can I also request an extension on the time give to respond, given that I will need to wait on the translation of the statement before I can give any consideration to the text? Regards
JacquelineA. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 1:48 PM <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]]
Dear Region, we hope you have a productive week,
In this way we give continuity to the initiative of Create, Approve and Publish a LACRALO Declaration based on our scope of the situation geopolitics affecting internet users in Europe.
Attached hereto is the Draft containing the contributions received at this time:
Please make the contributions you wish to suggest through this mail thread.
Kind regards
claire craig _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
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Ah well. I have already seen some interpretations of the EURALO statement that, as far as I'm concerned, tends to the fable. The EURALO statement can, at best, be seen as a general response to the situation in Eatern Europe. It could reasonably be argued that it waxed a little political - and outside the ICANN remit - by the condemnation of the hostilities and with that oblique reference to the United Nations Charter and the Minsk Agreement. But the statement in respect of the "*asks*" of the Ukrainian authorities of ICANN, it can be best described as casuistic. Here is what the Ukrainians have asked, taken directly from the text of the GAC representative: " *T**herefore, I’m strongly asking you to introduce the following list of sanctions targeting Russian Federation’s access to the Internet:* *Revoke, permanently or temporarily, the domains “.ru”, “.рф” and “.su”. This list is not exhaustive and may also include other domains issued in the Russian Federation.* * Contribute to the revoking for SSL certificates for the abovementioned domains.* *Shut down DNS root servers situated in the Russian Federation, namely:* *Saint Petersburg, RU (IPv4 199.7.83.42)* *Moscow, RU (IPv4 199.7.83.42, 3 instances)*" Other than the obligatory reference to European identity, there is no direct reference to Russia or things Russian pertaining to the Internet identifiers in the EURALO statement. That statement is called a rounder in the practice, referencing, IMHO, a substantive equality and principled equal treatment - for .ru and Russian-associated Internet properties as per .ua and Ukrainian-associated Internet properties. To wit: "-* Expresses its esteem for all its members as citizens of the European continent;* * - Fully supports their equal rights as Europeans, and as individual users of the Internet;* * - Insists that the Internet must remain intact and a universal tool for communication and cooperation, without political, ideological or religious constraints;* * - Calls upon the ICANN Board and CEO to ensure the stability and resiliency of the Internet Naming System infrastructure in Ukraine and elsewhere in Europe;* * - Urges ICANN to ensure that the availability of the .UA domain is preserved in its* * entirety"*
From a Caribbean perspective we can support an amended EURALO statement, especially because it contains the leitmotif for an Internet to which we are severally agreed: a single global Internet connecting each of us to all of us and protected from "*political, ideological and religious constraints* ".
Perhaps it is the translation that gives it the colour we see emerged. But if we take a position as the draft does that the LACRALO Statement is a " *+1*" to EURALO's position, I would recommend rephrasing the last paragraph and removing the "extreme measures". That said, I would prefer a simple statement that say LACRALO endorses the EURALO perspective of a single global internet devoid of political, ideological and religious constraints that connects each of us to all of us. We therefore agree that all Internet identifiers in the conflict zone be afforded equal treatment for stability, security and resiliency of the Internet. Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 13:32, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for this.
Since I don't think EURALO's statement was ever posted to the LACRALO list, here's the EURALO statement which the draft LACRALO statement wants to support :
https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+Communique+on+Ukraine?prev...
I do have concerns with LACRALO's statement. I'll try to expand on this in another email.
Dev Anand
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 2:13 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is the unofficial translation from ICANN Staff:
"Declaration of support from LACRALO, which represents the interests of end Internet users within the framework of the ICANN community, supports and subscribes to the recent statement issued by EURALO with regards to the situation of Internet users in the context of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
We also ask the ICANN Board to take extreme measures to guarantee the stability and resilience of the Domain Name system infrastructure in countries in conflict and around the world."
Thank you very much!
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 14:11, Jacqueline Morris <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> wrote:
HI Claire, Thanks, but the document is only in Spanish. Can I please request a translation from ICANN Staff so that I can properly understand the statement that LACRALO means to make. Can I also request an extension on the time give to respond, given that I will need to wait on the translation of the statement before I can give any consideration to the text? Regards
JacquelineA. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 1:48 PM <claireccraig@gmail.com> wrote:
[[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]]
Dear Region, we hope you have a productive week,
In this way we give continuity to the initiative of Create, Approve and Publish a LACRALO Declaration based on our scope of the situation geopolitics affecting internet users in Europe.
Attached hereto is the Draft containing the contributions received at this time:
Please make the contributions you wish to suggest through this mail thread.
Kind regards
claire craig _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en
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Claire Craig -
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Dev Anand Teelucksingh -
Jacqueline Morris