I agree that D and L with Caron resembles D and L with apostrophe, or maybe rather, D and L with single quote mark (T with Caron should also be included here), but U and O with Horn are quite different where the "thing" is attached at the half-high level rather than detached at the full-high level. If characters that resembles an apostrophe or carries something that looks like an apostrophe should be excluded then D, L and T with Caron are good candidates, but I do not think that U and O with Horn are. (Comic Sans is a bad example here because the U and O with Horn comes from some other font/type face through font substitution.) Yours, Mats --- Mats Dufberg DNS Specialist Internetstiftelsen (The Swedish Internet Foundation) Mobile: +46 73 065 3899 https://internetstiftelsen.se/ From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Reply to: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Date: Friday, 13 December 2019 at 02:03 To: ICANN Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [Latingp] Apostrophe vs Caron and Horn Dear colleagues, Here is a wordmark display of letters followed by apostrophe vs the same letters with caron or horn. See the Comment at the end of Section 5.4. My sense is that, while side-by-side the difference is spacing is apparent, in a domain name a user would be unable to spot the difference. And thus, per the exclusion of punctuation and marks similar to punctuation, these code points ought to be excluded. (Personally, I don't think the exclusion of punctuation, except for periods, makes much sense. But that's the rule we are supposed to be following.) Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct)