Actually, no. The panel worked the definition of “same” during the Brussels meeting (you attended) and this is what we finalized<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IrT_kfildf1SumYUqjkaIkMT-TYx9IRqtuPMV4Yv...>: Within-script Variants * Homoglyphs: when any given pair of code points or code point sequences are visually identical as represented in a common use font (e.g., Arial, Times New Roman or Courier New) by internet applications, such as internet browsers. * Alternate Use: a pair of code points or sequence of code points that are regularly used interchangeably and are considered the same by the script users. -Dennis From: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Date: Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 3:58 PM To: Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka@verisign.com>, "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants Briefly, these meet the definition in Procedure to Develop and Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of IDNA Labels: An IDN variant, as understood here, is an alternate code point (or sequence of code points) that could be substituted for a code point (or sequence of code points) in a candidate label to create a variant label that is considered the “same” in some measure by a given community of Internet users. Does that help? Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) ________________________________ From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka@verisign.com> To: "bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com>; "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants Interesting point of view re:Marshallese . Let’s bring it up when we get to review in-script variants. For the time being please provide evidence of your candidates. Thanks, Dennis From: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Date: Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 3:05 PM To: Dennis Tan Tanaka <dtantanaka@verisign.com>, "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants As far as I can see, all of the Marshallese references are to justify exclusion. Not inclusion. What am I missing? Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) ________________________________ From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka@verisign.com> To: "bill.jouris@insidethestack.com" <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com>; "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants Bill, For in-script variants IP asked we provide evidence of the variant relationship. Since the cases you are proposing do not fall in the homoglyph category, the panel must provide a strong reason for inclusion (e.g. Marshelle cases) Thanks, Dennis From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 11:54 PM To: "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants I've taken the liberty of adding a couple dozen additional candidates. (I held off the Rating 2 cases. These are the slam dunks.) I still think that, as discussed last week, we ought to include more cases rather than fewer. Especially when we are sending a draft to the IP for review -- that's when they can tell us if we have taken a wrong turn. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) ________________________________ From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp" <latingp@icann.org> To: "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:43 PM Subject: [Latingp] Draft in-script variants Dear Latin GP, Here is the compilation of current in-script variant candidates for our review during tomorrow’s call. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bKKFHxbjgBd9CIPRiuOsej_3x670yTytUMM32Ou7... Talk to you all soon. Best, -Dennis _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp@icann.org<mailto:Latingp@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp