Dear GP members, Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next call. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. Pitinan finalized the clean version of the Report. All materials could be found at https://onedrive.live.com/?id=48AA6AACD70E3A81%211101&cid=48AA6AACD70E3A81 In order to access the documents someone should sign in with Microsoft account. Regards Mirjana Agenda for Latin GP call on April the 22nd, 2021 1. Finalize the Latin GP Report V6 * confirm all edits to the main Report * confirm the XML 2. Status of test data set 3. AOB
Good morning …. I reviewed the latest HTML XML-output (22 Apr); here is some feedback for your consideration. 1. Repertoire. I did a quick summary of the repertoire and found 219 elements. The comment section at the top of the HTML document refers to 218. 2. Variant Disposition. It is not clear what this paragraph is trying to say (at least I don’t understand it fully). It seems it is trying to explain what policy might recommend. If so, then it may be best idea to leave it out. 3. Suggest editing “Overlapped sequence: one sequence with a variant "ss" is overlapped with a code point "s" that has a variant of its own. To ensure that the sets of variant labels are well-behaved, additional variant mappings, including an out-of-repertoire sequence had to be defined: U+0455 U+0455, among others.” 4. Not specific to the LGR, but feedback for the LGR Tool. Spotted error while testing label ‘ıß’ (0131 00df). Error also happens with sequence 00df 0131. See screenshot below. Hope this is helpful. Best, Dennis PS. I have a schedule conflict and won’t be able to attend. [cid:image001.png@01D73760.F1AD8D30] From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Mirjana Tasić via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> Reply-To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 4:48 PM To: Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] Agenda for Latin GP call on April the 22nd, 2021 Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Dear GP members, Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next call. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. Pitinan finalized the clean version of the Report. All materials could be found at https://onedrive.live.com/?id=48AA6AACD70E3A81%211101&cid=48AA6AACD70E3A81 In order to access the documents someone should sign in with Microsoft account. Regards Mirjana Agenda for Latin GP call on April the 22nd, 2021 1. Finalize the Latin GP Report V6 · confirm all edits to the main Report · confirm the XML 2. Status of test data set 3. AOB
Let me propose the following revision of the Variant Disposition paragraph. (I hope Pitinan can work out how to get it into the XML version.) Variant Disposition: With the exceptions discussed below (involving Latin Letter Sharp S or Latin Letter Dotless I), all variants are of type "blocked". Domain names that differ only by one or more variants are mutually exclusive. Once a domain name containing these variants is chosen, other domain names which differ only by one or more variants should be blocked. There is no preference among these variants. I hope this may be clearer. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 07:19:41 AM PDT, Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> wrote: #yiv5449402426 #yiv5449402426 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv5449402426 #yiv5449402426 p.yiv5449402426MsoNormal, #yiv5449402426 li.yiv5449402426MsoNormal, #yiv5449402426 div.yiv5449402426MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv5449402426 a:link, #yiv5449402426 span.yiv5449402426MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5449402426 p.yiv5449402426MsoListParagraph, #yiv5449402426 li.yiv5449402426MsoListParagraph, #yiv5449402426 div.yiv5449402426MsoListParagraph {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv5449402426 span.yiv5449402426EmailStyle22 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv5449402426 .yiv5449402426MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {}#yiv5449402426 div.yiv5449402426WordSection1 {}#yiv5449402426 _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv5449402426 ol {margin-bottom:0in;}#yiv5449402426 ul {margin-bottom:0in;}#yiv5449402426 Good morning …. I reviewed the latest HTML XML-output (22 Apr); here is some feedback for your consideration. - Repertoire. I did a quick summary of the repertoire and found 219 elements. The comment section at the top of the HTML document refers to 218. - Variant Disposition. It is not clear what this paragraph is trying to say (at least I don’t understand it fully). It seems it is trying to explain what policy might recommend. If so, then it may be best idea to leave it out. - Suggest editing “Overlapped sequence: one sequence with a variant "ss" is overlapped with a code point "s" that has a variant of its own. To ensure that the sets of variant labels are well-behaved, additional variant mappings, including an out-of-repertoire sequence had to be defined: U+0455 U+0455, among others.” - Not specific to the LGR, but feedback for the LGR Tool. Spotted error while testing label ‘ıß’ (0131 00df). Error also happens with sequence 00df 0131. See screenshot below. Hope this is helpful. Best, Dennis PS. I have a schedule conflict and won’t be able to attend. From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Mirjana Tasić via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> Reply-To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 4:48 PM To: Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] Agenda for Latin GP call on April the 22nd, 2021 | Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. | Dear GP members, Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next call. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. Pitinan finalized the clean version of the Report. All materials could be found at https://onedrive.live.com/?id=48AA6AACD70E3A81%211101&cid=48AA6AACD70E3A81 In order to access the documents someone should sign in with Microsoft account. Regards Mirjana Agenda for Latin GP call on April the22nd, 2021 1. Finalize the Latin GP Report V6 · confirm all edits to the main Report · confirm the XML 2. Status of test data set 3. AOB _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Hi Bill, thanks for trying to address my observation. Actually, I’m even more confused now because you are talking about domain names. This LGR is only applicable to top-level labels (i.e. single labels, not domain names as in sld.tld). I think this is how it should go: “Most variant types are ‘blocked’. There are few of the type ‘allocatable’ to allow for accepted alternate uses of certain letters e.g. Sharp S and Dotless I.” The LGR procedure already explains the expectations on implementation of ‘blocked’ variants, so there is no use to repeat this here. Thanks, Dennis From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Bill Jouris via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 1:36 PM To: "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Agenda for Latin GP call on April the 22nd, 2021 Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Let me propose the following revision of the Variant Disposition paragraph. (I hope Pitinan can work out how to get it into the XML version.) Variant Disposition: With the exceptions discussed below (involving Latin Letter Sharp S or Latin Letter Dotless I), all variants are of type "blocked". Domain names that differ only by one or more variants are mutually exclusive. Once a domain name containing these variants is chosen, other domain names which differ only by one or more variants should be blocked. There is no preference among these variants. I hope this may be clearer. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 07:19:41 AM PDT, Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> wrote: Good morning …. I reviewed the latest HTML XML-output (22 Apr); here is some feedback for your consideration. 1. Repertoire. I did a quick summary of the repertoire and found 219 elements. The comment section at the top of the HTML document refers to 218. 2. Variant Disposition. It is not clear what this paragraph is trying to say (at least I don’t understand it fully). It seems it is trying to explain what policy might recommend. If so, then it may be best idea to leave it out. 3. Suggest editing “Overlapped sequence: one sequence with a variant "ss" is overlapped with a code point "s" that has a variant of its own. To ensure that the sets of variant labels are well-behaved, additional variant mappings, including an out-of-repertoire sequence had to be defined: U+0455 U+0455, among others.” 4. Not specific to the LGR, but feedback for the LGR Tool. Spotted error while testing label ‘ıß’ (0131 00df). Error also happens with sequence 00df 0131. See screenshot below. Hope this is helpful. Best, Dennis PS. I have a schedule conflict and won’t be able to attend. [cid:image001.png@01D7377F.BB5B5C20] From: Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Mirjana Tasić via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> Reply-To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 4:48 PM To: Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] Agenda for Latin GP call on April the 22nd, 2021 Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Dear GP members, Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next call. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. Pitinan finalized the clean version of the Report. All materials could be found at https://onedrive.live.com/?id=48AA6AACD70E3A81%211101&cid=48AA6AACD70E3A81 In order to access the documents someone should sign in with Microsoft account. Regards Mirjana Agenda for Latin GP call on April the 22nd, 2021 1. Finalize the Latin GP Report V6 • confirm all edits to the main Report • confirm the XML 2. Status of test data set 3. 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Hi Dennis, I take your point about TLDs and SLDs. On the other hand, the recent ICANN document about SLDs talks about variants as well. But without laying out which symbols would be variants. The work that we (and the other Generation Panels) are doing about variants is, as far as I can tell, the ONLY compilation of what those are that ICANN has produced. Hence my use of "domain names". However I'm fine with your proposed revision. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 10:59:40 AM PDT, Tan Tanaka, Dennis <dtantanaka@verisign.com> wrote: Hi Bill, thanks for trying to address my observation. Actually, I’m even more confused now because you are talking about domain names. This LGR is only applicable to top-level labels (i.e. single labels, not domain names as in sld.tld). I think this is how it should go: “Most variant types are ‘blocked’. There are few of the type ‘allocatable’ to allow for accepted alternate uses of certain letters e.g. Sharp S and Dotless I.” The LGR procedure already explains the expectations on implementation of ‘blocked’ variants, so there is no use to repeat this here. Thanks, Dennis From:Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Bill Jouris via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> Reply-To: Bill Jouris <bill.jouris@insidethestack.com> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 1:36 PM To: "latingp@icann.org" <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Latingp] Agenda for Latin GP call on April the 22nd, 2021 | Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. | Let me propose the following revision of the Variant Disposition paragraph. (I hope Pitinan can work out how to get it into the XML version.) Variant Disposition: With the exceptions discussed below (involving Latin Letter Sharp S or Latin Letter Dotless I), all variants are of type "blocked". Domain names that differ only by one or more variants are mutually exclusive. Once a domain name containing these variants is chosen, other domain names which differ only by one or more variants should be blocked. There is no preference among these variants. I hope this may be clearer. Bill Jouris Inside Products bill.jouris@insidethestack.com 831-659-8360 925-855-9512 (direct) On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 07:19:41 AM PDT, Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> wrote: Good morning …. I reviewed the latest HTML XML-output (22 Apr); here is some feedback for your consideration. 1. Repertoire. I did a quick summary of the repertoire and found 219 elements. The comment section at the top of the HTML document refers to 218. 2. Variant Disposition. It is not clear what this paragraph is trying to say (at least I don’t understand it fully). It seems it is trying to explain what policy might recommend. If so, then it may be best idea to leave it out. 3. Suggest editing “Overlapped sequence: one sequence with a variant "ss" is overlapped with a code point "s" that has a variant of its own. To ensure that the sets of variant labels are well-behaved, additional variant mappings, including an out-of-repertoire sequence had to be defined: U+0455 U+0455, among others.” 4. Not specific to the LGR, but feedback for the LGR Tool. Spotted error while testing label ‘ıß’ (0131 00df). Error also happens with sequence 00df 0131. See screenshot below. Hope this is helpful. Best, Dennis PS. I have a schedule conflict and won’t be able to attend. From:Latingp <latingp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Mirjana Tasić via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> Reply-To: Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic@rnids.rs> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 4:48 PM To: Latin GP <latingp@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Latingp] Agenda for Latin GP call on April the 22nd, 2021 | Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. | Dear GP members, Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next call. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. Pitinan finalized the clean version of the Report. All materials could be found at https://onedrive.live.com/?id=48AA6AACD70E3A81%211101&cid=48AA6AACD70E3A81 In order to access the documents someone should sign in with Microsoft account. Regards Mirjana Agenda for Latin GP call on April the22nd, 2021 1. Finalize the Latin GP Report V6 · confirm all edits to the main Report · confirm the XML 2. 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Just a quick note: in Table 9 we have a column for "Examples". But none are actually given. Perhaps we should drop the column? Bill On Tuesday, April 20, 2021, 01:48:14 PM PDT, Mirjana Tasić via Latingp <latingp@icann.org> wrote: <!--#yiv9488394046 _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9488394046 #yiv9488394046 p.yiv9488394046MsoNormal, #yiv9488394046 li.yiv9488394046MsoNormal, #yiv9488394046 div.yiv9488394046MsoNormal {margin:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv9488394046 a:link, #yiv9488394046 span.yiv9488394046MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9488394046 p.yiv9488394046MsoListParagraph, #yiv9488394046 li.yiv9488394046MsoListParagraph, #yiv9488394046 div.yiv9488394046MsoListParagraph {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman", serif;}#yiv9488394046 span.yiv9488394046EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9488394046 .yiv9488394046MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv9488394046 div.yiv9488394046WordSection1 {}#yiv9488394046 _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9488394046 ol {margin-bottom:0cm;}#yiv9488394046 ul {margin-bottom:0cm;}--> Dear GP members, Please find enclosed the Agenda proposal for our next call. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. Pitinan finalized the clean version of the Report. All materials could be found at https://onedrive.live.com/?id=48AA6AACD70E3A81%211101&cid=48AA6AACD70E3A81 In order to access the documents someone should sign in with Microsoft account. Regards Mirjana Agenda for Latin GP call on April the22nd, 2021 - Finalize the Latin GP Report V6 - confirm all edits to the main Report - confirm the XML - Status of test data set - AOB _______________________________________________ Latingp mailing list Latingp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/latingp _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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