Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment
Dear Hadia and all, First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file). I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment. -- Tijani BENJEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Telephone: +216 52 385 114
Thank you Tijani for your updates. It is better that you put the edits on the word document as I do not have the right to accept on the google document. Zakir has made some edits that I was going to add to the original, but could not accept through the google document. Kind regards Hadia From: Middle-East [mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Tijani BEN JEMAA Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:33 PM To: middle-east@icann.org; middle-east@icann.org; hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com; nadira.araj@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Dear Hadia and all, First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file). I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BENJEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Telephone: +216 52 385 114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Hadia, I thought you have created a new document. Let me check the Google document and see how to give you the ownership. Best wishes Nadira On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:37 Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi < Hadia@tra.gov.eg> wrote:
Thank you Tijani for your updates. It is better that you put the edits on the word document as I do not have the right to accept on the google document. Zakir has made some edits that I was going to add to the original, but could not accept through the google document.
Kind regards
Hadia
*From:* Middle-East [mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Tijani BEN JEMAA *Sent:* Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:33 PM *To:* middle-east@icann.org; middle-east@icann.org; hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com; nadira.araj@gmail.com *Subject:* Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment
Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
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Thank you Hadia From: Nadira Alaraj [mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:04 PM To: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi Cc: Tijani BENJEMAA; middle-east@icann.org; hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Dear Hadia, I thought you have created a new document. Let me check the Google document and see how to give you the ownership. Best wishes Nadira On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:37 Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg>> wrote: Thank you Tijani for your updates. It is better that you put the edits on the word document as I do not have the right to accept on the google document. Zakir has made some edits that I was going to add to the original, but could not accept through the google document. Kind regards Hadia From: Middle-East [mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org<mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Tijani BEN JEMAA Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:33 PM To: middle-east@icann.org<mailto:middle-east@icann.org>; middle-east@icann.org<mailto:middle-east@icann.org>; hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com<mailto:hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com>; nadira.araj@gmail.com<mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Dear Hadia and all, First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file). I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BENJEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Telephone: +216 52 385 114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is resolved, I do have ownership From: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:05 PM To: 'Nadira Alaraj' Cc: Tijani BENJEMAA; middle-east@icann.org; hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Thank you Hadia From: Nadira Alaraj [mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:04 PM To: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi Cc: Tijani BENJEMAA; middle-east@icann.org; hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Dear Hadia, I thought you have created a new document. Let me check the Google document and see how to give you the ownership. Best wishes Nadira On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:37 Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg<mailto:Hadia@tra.gov.eg>> wrote: Thank you Tijani for your updates. It is better that you put the edits on the word document as I do not have the right to accept on the google document. Zakir has made some edits that I was going to add to the original, but could not accept through the google document. Kind regards Hadia From: Middle-East [mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org<mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Tijani BEN JEMAA Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:33 PM To: middle-east@icann.org<mailto:middle-east@icann.org>; middle-east@icann.org<mailto:middle-east@icann.org>; hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com<mailto:hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com>; nadira.araj@gmail.com<mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Dear Hadia and all, First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file). I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BENJEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Telephone: +216 52 385 114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
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Hi, For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation. The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb... Thanks. Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan
Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BENJEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Telephone: +216 52 385 114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you Amr for the information about the PDP 3.0. I wish you include a session on the ME Readout session so you can give awareness on the PDP 3.0 to the community. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 16:35 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> wrote:
Hi,
For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation.
The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb...
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan
Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Tijani BENJEMAA* Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*) Telephone: +216 52 385 114
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Hi Nadira, I won’t be attending ICANN66, so won’t be able to do this. Also, there are community members from our region who are directly engaged in the work on PDP 3.0 (like Rafik and Elsa). I have merely been an observer, so one of them might do better explaining this to our regional community. Thanks. Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Amr for the information about the PDP 3.0.
I wish you include a session on the ME Readout session so you can give awareness on the PDP 3.0 to the community.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 16:35 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> wrote:
Hi,
For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation.
The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb...
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan
Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BENJEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Telephone: +216 52 385 114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you Amr, I hope @Fahd Batayneh <fahd.batayneh@icann.org> will take note of this suggestion for the coming ME Readout session. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:54 PM Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> wrote:
Hi Nadira,
I won’t be attending ICANN66, so won’t be able to do this. Also, there are community members from our region who are directly engaged in the work on PDP 3.0 (like Rafik and Elsa). I have merely been an observer, so one of them might do better explaining this to our regional community.
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Amr for the information about the PDP 3.0.
I wish you include a session on the ME Readout session so you can give awareness on the PDP 3.0 to the community.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 16:35 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> wrote:
Hi,
For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation.
The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb...
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan
Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
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Thanks Amr, in all cases we are looking forward to seeing you in the readout session. Best Hadia From: Middle-East [mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Nadira Alaraj Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 3:58 PM To: Amr Elsadr; fahd.batayneh Cc: Hadia El Miniawi; middle-east@icann.org Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Thank you Amr, I hope @Fahd Batayneh<mailto:fahd.batayneh@icann.org> will take note of this suggestion for the coming ME Readout session. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:54 PM Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> wrote: Hi Nadira, I won’t be attending ICANN66, so won’t be able to do this. Also, there are community members from our region who are directly engaged in the work on PDP 3.0 (like Rafik and Elsa). I have merely been an observer, so one of them might do better explaining this to our regional community. Thanks. Amr On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com<mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com>> wrote: Thank you Amr for the information about the PDP 3.0. I wish you include a session on the ME Readout session so you can give awareness on the PDP 3.0 to the community. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 16:35 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja<mailto:aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja>> wrote: Hi, For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation. The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb... Thanks. Amr On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM<mailto:nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM>> wrote: Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn<mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote: Dear Hadia and all, First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file). I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BENJEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Telephone: +216 52 385 114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --
Hi, with regard to PDP 3.0, what do you would like to know? it is currently on implementation phase with the target to finalize most of it by Montreal meeting. Best, Rafik Le mar. 8 oct. 2019 à 22:55, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> a écrit :
Hi Nadira,
I won’t be attending ICANN66, so won’t be able to do this. Also, there are community members from our region who are directly engaged in the work on PDP 3.0 (like Rafik and Elsa). I have merely been an observer, so one of them might do better explaining this to our regional community.
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Amr for the information about the PDP 3.0.
I wish you include a session on the ME Readout session so you can give awareness on the PDP 3.0 to the community.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 16:35 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> wrote:
Hi,
For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation.
The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb...
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan
Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
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Thank you Rafik for your feedback, Would you be able to check the paragraph included in the ME statement about the PDP 3. in the context of the ME statement? https://docs.google.com/document/d/166dt6mzneVwT2yB2P7XN-_Ol3uMo-o3kYaaE4t6F... On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 02:41 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
with regard to PDP 3.0, what do you would like to know? it is currently on implementation phase with the target to finalize most of it by Montreal meeting.
Best,
Rafik
Le mar. 8 oct. 2019 à 22:55, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> a écrit :
Hi Nadira,
I won’t be attending ICANN66, so won’t be able to do this. Also, there are community members from our region who are directly engaged in the work on PDP 3.0 (like Rafik and Elsa). I have merely been an observer, so one of them might do better explaining this to our regional community.
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Amr for the information about the PDP 3.0.
I wish you include a session on the ME Readout session so you can give awareness on the PDP 3.0 to the community.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 16:35 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> wrote:
Hi,
For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation.
The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb...
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan
Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
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Dear Amr, I do apologize for the confusion. I meant it’s implementation is not adopted, and is even not ready yet to be put for public comment. @ Nadira, PDP 3.0 was proposed as potential solution in the public consultation we are responding to; that’s why I mentioned it. Best
Le 8 oct. 2019 à 14:35, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> a écrit :
Hi,
For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation.
The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb... <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb...>
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM <mailto:nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan
Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote: Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
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<PDP 3.0 Council Presentation - 19 Sep 2019 (v2).pdf>
Tijani BEN JEMAA
Dear Tijani, Since I saw that you did not access the google document , I would like to share with you what I put on the google document with regard to Issue 2 – Precision in Scoping Work, where I do not see it as part of the MSM because with regard to the scoping of ICANN work this is within the scope of PDP 3.0, again it is a suggested path that might provide a solution but is yet to be seen and any other suggestions we make is also a suggested path that will need to be seen, so why do we embark on a new path when we haven't seen the result of the existing yet. As with regard to the scoping of the work of the community, the community participates in the MEAC SWG and in the implementation phase so what other role are we suggesting? So are we suggesting creating some more community groups? I do not think this would be efficient, making better use of the existing ones and the existing process in this regard is better. Dear All, please continue providing your inputs Best Hadia From: Middle-East [mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Tijani BEN JEMAA Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 7:17 PM To: Amr Elsadr Cc: Hadia El Miniawi; middle-east@icann.org Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Dear Amr, I do apologize for the confusion. I meant it’s implementation is not adopted, and is even not ready yet to be put for public comment. @ Nadira, PDP 3.0 was proposed as potential solution in the public consultation we are responding to; that’s why I mentioned it. Best Le 8 oct. 2019 à 14:35, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja<mailto:aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja>> a écrit : Hi, For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation. The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb... Thanks. Amr On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM<mailto:nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM>> wrote: Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I'm in agreement except of this point The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn<mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>> wrote: Dear Hadia and all, First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file). I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BENJEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Telephone: +216 52 385 114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ <PDP 3.0 Council Presentation - 19 Sep 2019 (v2).pdf> Tijani BEN JEMAA
Hi, If I’m understanding this correctly, then I’d agree with Hadia on this. The GNSO has been working on PDP 3.0 for quite some time (considerably longer than the Evolving ICANN’s MSM project has been going on), and like Rafik said, there should be some very tangible outcomes very soon. I believe the general intent of PDP 3.0 (I stand to be corrected on this) is to enhance the efficiency of the the GNSO’s PDP, and improve participation from other ICANN SOs/ACs in gTLD policy development. It might lead to less openness in participation in PDPs There will likely be PDPs moving forward, which are not open to general public membership in WGs. Instead, at least some will likely be populated with fixed representation from different ICANN SOs/ACs, similar to the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data EPDP Team, however, in certain circumstances, a tradeoff of less openness (not an absence of open participation) in order to improve efficiency might take place. This would only be one of many aspects of attempted improvements using PDP 3.0. Still…, as Hadia says, I’d advise that the outcome of implementation of PDP 3.0 be reviewed prior to supporting a parallel process to achieve the same objectives the GNSO has been pursuing. Otherwise, ICANN might find itself dealing with two duplicative and competing processes taking place to improve efficiency of gTLD policy development. I hope this helps. Thanks. Amr
On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi <Hadia@tra.gov.eg> wrote:
Dear Tijani,
Since I saw that you did not access the google document , I would like to share with you what I put on the google document with regard to Issue 2 – Precision in Scoping Work, where I do not see it as part of the MSM because with regard to the scoping of ICANN work this is within the scope of PDP 3.0, again it is a suggested path that might provide a solution but is yet to be seen and any other suggestions we make is also a suggested path that will need to be seen, so why do we embark on a new path when we haven't seen the result of the existing yet. As with regard to the scoping of the work of the community, the community participates in the MEAC SWG and in the implementation phase so what other role are we suggesting? So are we suggesting creating some more community groups? I do not think this would be efficient, making better use of the existing ones and the existing process in this regard is better.
Dear All, please continue providing your inputs
Best
Hadia
From: Middle-East [mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Tijani BEN JEMAA Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 7:17 PM To: Amr Elsadr Cc: Hadia El Miniawi; middle-east@icann.org Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment
Dear Amr,
I do apologize for the confusion. I meant it’s implementation is not adopted, and is even not ready yet to be put for public comment.
@ Nadira, PDP 3.0 was proposed as potential solution in the public consultation we are responding to; that’s why I mentioned it.
Best
Le 8 oct. 2019 à 14:35, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> a écrit :
Hi,
For what it’s worth, my understanding is that the PDP 3.0 has been adopted quite a while ago, and should be fully implemented within the first quarter of 2020. There are regular updates on implementation of PDP 3.0 during monthly GNSO Council meetings. I’ve attached the slide deck from its September 2019 meeting, which includes the expected timeline to wrap up implementation.
The slide deck can also be found under “Item 9” here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Documents+19+Septemb...
Thanks.
Amr
On Oct 8, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
Thank you Tijani for your constructive feedback and suggestions.
I'm in agreement except of this point
The PDP 3.0 presented as possible solution can’t be considered since it’s is not yet adopted. We believe that this issue should be part of the MSM work plan
Simply because those who know about the PDP 3.0 are very few. The statement has to reflect of the knowledge and understanding of the majority.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 14:33 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
Dear Hadia and all,
First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file).
I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment.
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<PDP 3.0 Council Presentation - 19 Sep 2019 (v2).pdf>
Tijani BEN JEMAA
Dear Tijani and All, Please note that the solutions suggested to the issues are potential solutions, like they are a path forward. Whether this path will lead to the required result or not is another matter. So you should regard the question as " Do you think this path forward could solve the issue?" Tijani, It turns out that it is very difficult to conduct a discussion off line on the word document, I have included some comments but let's continue on the google document. The URL is https://docs.google.com/document/d/166dt6mzneVwT2yB2P7XN-_Ol3uMo-o3kYaaE4t6Fkpg/edit?ts=5d91b8b9#<https://docs.google.com/document/d/166dt6mzneVwT2yB2P7XN-_Ol3uMo-o3kYaaE4t6Fkpg/edit?ts=5d91b8b9> issue 3 The efficient use of resources and Costs The part in red was suggested by Nadira and that is why I added it . As for your part in green, I don't think we should add this. I said in red that "we regard this item as being potentially addressed " that means that it has the capacity to address the solution but does not mean that it will necessary solve it. however I can elaborate more in the text. Please note that they are asking if this path could lead to the solution. Whether it actually does or not is still to be seen. So yes the paths suggested could lead to the solutions. issue 5 Representation, Inclusivity, Recruitment and Demographics The potential suggested solutions are The GNSO PDP 3.0 Implementation Plan will consider alternatives to the open Working Group model and will identify and document the basic characteristics of various model(s) The work will develop overview of different model options that have been used to date that balance representation, inclusivity, expertise, empowerment, accountability, and participation. • The CCWG-Accountability WS2 made recommendations by which ICANN may define, measure, report, support, and promote diversity, and to increase AC/SO accountability, transparency, participation, and outreach. • ATRT3 is developing a possible recommendation focused on Board effectiveness and efficiency, and will address, among other criteria, inclusivity and diversity. • The CCWG-Accountability-WS2 recommended that an AC/SO/Group that elects it officers should consider term limits. The GNSO PDP 3.0 Implementation Plan aims to commence So yes the above proposed ways forward might successfully address the issues of Inclusivity, representation, recruitment and demographics as well as the issue that you raise about the term limit which is one of many items linked to this issue. The aggregate effect and the end result is yet to be seen as for all the other issues. Issue 6 Culture+trust+Silos I don't know why we should undermine the suggested solutions, also what is the merit of substituting "activities" with "behavior" it is not only about how people conduct themselves but it is also about what is being done and the actions taken that could lead to loss of trust. Let's continue on the document, where it is more possible to exchange thoughts, in addition we can all contribute to the work. The google document gives all the right to edit, but please work only in suggesting mode. Thank you Hadia From: Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:34 PM To: 'Tijani BEN JEMAA'; middle-east@icann.org; middle-east@icann.org; hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com; nadira.araj@gmail.com Subject: RE: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Thank you Tijani for your updates. It is better that you put the edits on the word document as I do not have the right to accept on the google document. Zakir has made some edits that I was going to add to the original, but could not accept through the google document. Kind regards Hadia From: Middle-East [mailto:middle-east-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Tijani BEN JEMAA Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 1:33 PM To: middle-east@icann.org; middle-east@icann.org; hadiaminiawi@yahoo.com; nadira.araj@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Montreal ME Space statement first draft for your comment Dear Hadia and all, First of all, I would like to thank Hadia for this excellent draft. I have some inputs that I want to provide (see the file). I used the red color for text that I propose to remove, blue for text I propose to add and Green for my comment. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BENJEMAA Executive Director Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) Telephone: +216 52 385 114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
participants (5)
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Amr Elsadr -
Hadia Abdelsalam Mokhtar EL miniawi -
Nadira Alaraj -
Rafik Dammak -
Tijani BEN JEMAA