Hi Nick, Thank you so much for your prompt reply to this. Your previous e-mail seems to imply that you already know that this group DOES have members ("the accreditation process for ALSes which is currently in force would not allow an individual to be accredited as an ALS") but I do not see any proof of this in the DD. Please elaborate. I would echo Alan's sentiments below and want to have "proof/demonstration of on-going activities and membership." If you (staff) could clarify this matter, I think it might set our minds at ease. Thank you so much for your help! D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Nick Ashton-Hart Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:17 AM To: Alan Greenberg; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] FW: Regional Advice for Papergate There is no impediment to requesting further information; you can do it directly, the ALAC can, or either may request the staff to do it (but you'd need to tell us what you want us to ask of course). On 07/04/2009 03:58, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote: As Darlene said, incorporating but not having any viable organization is not particularly good either. I happen to be associated with a functioning, productive not-for-profit (far from the ICANN world) and I would hope that our not having incorporated (initial and ongoing cost just to high to justify) would not be held against us. Proof/demonstration of ongoing activities and membership is the key. I cannot remember whether there is a step in the process that allows us to ask for more information (and that stops the clock from ticking). Alan At 06/04/2009 01:59 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
Darlene wrote:
1. Papergate seems to be registered as a business but has not yet registered as a corporation so we have no proof of its actual existence;
At least in my jurisdiction, an unincorporated registration is little more than a legal alias. So we are indeed likely dealing with an individual and not (yet) a bonafide group.
I guess my major concern is fairness and transparency. When Danny Younger applied to become an ALS as an individual, he was turned down. How is this application any different? Should we be:
1. Accepting this application as an individual and accepting it on this basis; 2. Accepting this application as an ALS; or 3. Rejecting this application.
Choice (1) really isn't applicable, because no approval is required for someone to join as an individual.
My first choice would be to suspend or defer approval until Papergate is incorporated and the appropriate demonstration of ALS eligibility can be validated. If deferral is not an option then IMO this application ought to be rejected, and resubmitted when Papergate is incorporated.
- Evan
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