I second that - I've also offered to spend some time on the telephone doing Q&A for her if that's helpful for her - and that offer's open to everyone else too On 02/02/07, Jacob Malthouse <jacob.malthouse@icann.org> wrote:
Hey Darlene,
This is just a personal observation, but I really think that no one should feel terrified to post on any list anywhere, let alone an ICANN list which is supposed to be encouraging newcomers.
There are no stupid questions and all contributions are useful.
I am personally very glad that you are interested in this work Darlene and hope you'll continue to stay involved and to learn about the issues under discussion here.
cheers,
Jacob.
Thompson, Darlene wrote:
As speaking as one of the "newcomers", I know that I would definitely appreciate a short history. I'm terrified to post anything here as I don't feel that I understand the context/history enough to make a useful contribution.
Thank you,
Darlene
Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP P.O. Box 429 Pond Inlet, NU X0A 0S0 Phone: (867) 899-7363 Fax: (867) 899-7334 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert Guerra Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:07 PM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO documents
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Evan:
Wendy and others have long been involved in ICANN and have concerns that should not be readily dismissed by newcomers. Might I suggest Wendy and others spend the time to explain the context and history a bit better...
In the meantime, my comments on a possible MoU are as follows:
The ALS in the NA region should develop a MoU that is far more precise and detailed vis-a-vis the document which the latin american region agreed to. Roles, responsibilities , expectations and mechanisms ensure transparency of both ICANN and ALS's, i believe must be precisely stated.
After all, with finances (ie. budget allocations) involved - the document should be as tight as possible.
regards
Robert
On 31-Jan-07, at 10:52 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
Wendy Seltzer wrote:
On the other hand, if the MoU is not a contract, it doesn't provide the signing ALSs or RALO any remedies if ICANN breaches the terms of its agreement such as by failing to support the secretariat, failing to make documents available, or continued lack of transparency. Perhaps the ALSs want stronger remedies -- i.e., maybe we want to push for a real contract with a real possibility of money damages.
"We" (at least speaking for my personal participation in this "we") will NOT push for a "real contract" or monetary penalties, especially from a non-profit. In fact, "we" (from my POV) will actively oppose it. My ALS joined this process in order to assist ICANN, not aquire a collective opportunity to sue it.
I for one am happy to go along with the process Nick described that LAC had done, in electing the reps upon completion of the MOU. As for contracts versus MOUs, if I am in the minority and people here really want the abilility to sue ICANN, then at least set the jurisdiction in Canada or somewhere else which has real social and/or legal disincentives to frivolous litigation.
- Evan
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