They were told that "Because of this we could not vote or officially participate in the final ceremony". WHAT?!?! Where the heck did something THAT bizarre idea come from??? They are either part of the NARALO with full privileges like anybody else or not. Personally, I think that they should get to choose which RALO they would like to be with although I do understand the thinking of having them as part of NA since they are part of the US. If they stick with us then Spanish would have to be included as one of our official languages. Nick: Is there an adequate budget for translations into both French and Spanish? D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Nick Ashton-Hart Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:17 AM To: NA Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Language Begin forwarded message: From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org Date: 6 June 2007 03:57:20 BDT To: na-discuss-owner@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Auto-discard notification The attached message has been automatically discarded. From: " Eduardo Diaz, PE" <ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com> Date: 6 June 2007 03:57:23 BDT To: <jam@jacquelinemorris.com>, "'Evan Leibovitch'" <evan@telly.org> Cc: "'NA Discuss'" <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] Language Reply-To: <ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com> ISOC Puerto Rico was invited to Sao Paulo last year to participate and help during the creation of the LACRALO, which we did. However, at the time of the final vote to accept the OPs and MOU we were told that ISOC PR had been approved as an ALS but under NARALO (?). Because of this we could not vote or officially participate in the final ceremony. We were told that the decision was made based on the political relationship with the US. Who knows!? Nevertheless, we can work with either RALO. The important thing is that we participate. In Puerto Rico we have two official languages - Spanish and English. Since the motion is to go with official languages in the ALS, then Spanish should be included. If this is too much of a slippery slope to handle then send us to the LACRALO and there will be no language issues. Eduardo Diaz President ISOC Puerto Rico -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jacqueline A. Morris Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:19 PM To: 'Evan Leibovitch' Cc: ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com; 'NA Discuss' Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language Actually, they did ask if they could be LACRALO members - LACRALO determined it had no issue accepting them if they wanted to be - but that was last year before there was movement on forming the NARALO. But with regard to languages - if the agreement was for the official languages of the members of the regions, then, as PR is a member of the region, Spanish should be included. No matter how many or how few people speak it. ICANN did have a consultation going on the regional classification a while ago -I can check back to see what came of it - I don't recall seeing a report or anything yet. Jacqueline -----Original Message----- From: Evan Leibovitch [mailto:evan@telly.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:50 PM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: 'Robert Guerra'; ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com; 'NA Discuss' Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I leave it up to the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take this forward or not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be more ALS applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish if they want to. Well, then you open the issue of why there should be a RALO with only three participating jurisdictions. Funny, elswehere in the world the RALO boundaries are drawn on continental boundaries. Newcomers can only wonder about the politics behind the decision to keep the Caribbean and Mexico out of North America on ICANN's globe. Of course, one other option is to ask the Puerto Rican ALSs if they'd prefer to be part of the LAC-RALO - Evan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 6:43 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 6:43 PM _______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .ica nn.org --- Draft MoU with ICANN: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct