NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting
Hello all, I noticed, while going through the calendar, that there is no ICANN meeting scheduled for the North American Region until Oct 17-23, 2010. Usually ALSs are invited to have their regional in-person meets at the local ICANN meeting. It is my recollection that, if there is no meeting taking place in a region during a calendar year, policy allows that ALSs of that region are entitled to have an in-person regional meeting. I believe there is a precedent already, a meeting held February 2007 by APRALO in Bali. (I also seem to recall that a proposal last year for a EURALO meeting for Geneva was refused...) In 2007 we met in San Juan, and I anticipate we will all be at the Summit in November this year. However, there will be no North American ICANN meeting in calendar 2009, and I would like everyone to start thinking about a good time and place to hold a regional ALS meeting in Sep/Oct of next year (which would be halfway between the Summit and the Oct 2010 meeting). Because the number of people involved is so small, it could be held anywhere. Perhaps adjacent to another conference? Once upon a time there was a plan to meet, before signing the MOU, at Consumers Union in Yonkers NY. Beau, is that offer still open? There' s no rush, but I just want to toss the idea out to make sure it's not forgotten, in the ICANN budget or otherwise. Nick, what have other regions done in planning this kind of meeting? How much advance notice is needed? - Evan
The offer to meet at Consumers Union in lovely Yonkers is most certainly still open. We've even installed Wi-Fi in the building since this was last discussed. -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Evan Leibovitch Sent: Mon 3/10/2008 6:39 PM To: NA Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting Hello all, I noticed, while going through the calendar, that there is no ICANN meeting scheduled for the North American Region until Oct 17-23, 2010. Usually ALSs are invited to have their regional in-person meets at the local ICANN meeting. It is my recollection that, if there is no meeting taking place in a region during a calendar year, policy allows that ALSs of that region are entitled to have an in-person regional meeting. I believe there is a precedent already, a meeting held February 2007 by APRALO in Bali. (I also seem to recall that a proposal last year for a EURALO meeting for Geneva was refused...) In 2007 we met in San Juan, and I anticipate we will all be at the Summit in November this year. However, there will be no North American ICANN meeting in calendar 2009, and I would like everyone to start thinking about a good time and place to hold a regional ALS meeting in Sep/Oct of next year (which would be halfway between the Summit and the Oct 2010 meeting). Because the number of people involved is so small, it could be held anywhere. Perhaps adjacent to another conference? Once upon a time there was a plan to meet, before signing the MOU, at Consumers Union in Yonkers NY. Beau, is that offer still open? There' s no rush, but I just want to toss the idea out to make sure it's not forgotten, in the ICANN budget or otherwise. Nick, what have other regions done in planning this kind of meeting? How much advance notice is needed? - Evan ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica... Visit the NA-RALO Wiki at https://st.icann.org/naralo/ ------ *** Scanned
Hi all, My only concern about the Yonkers possibility is its unavailability to any major airport. Beau, how does one get to where you are from the nearest airport? I don't actually know the geography there all that well (OK, not at ALL!)! D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:28 AM To: Evan Leibovitch; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting The offer to meet at Consumers Union in lovely Yonkers is most certainly still open. We've even installed Wi-Fi in the building since this was last discussed. -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Evan Leibovitch Sent: Mon 3/10/2008 6:39 PM To: NA Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting Hello all, I noticed, while going through the calendar, that there is no ICANN meeting scheduled for the North American Region until Oct 17-23, 2010. Usually ALSs are invited to have their regional in-person meets at the local ICANN meeting. It is my recollection that, if there is no meeting taking place in a region during a calendar year, policy allows that ALSs of that region are entitled to have an in-person regional meeting. I believe there is a precedent already, a meeting held February 2007 by APRALO in Bali. (I also seem to recall that a proposal last year for a EURALO meeting for Geneva was refused...) In 2007 we met in San Juan, and I anticipate we will all be at the Summit in November this year. However, there will be no North American ICANN meeting in calendar 2009, and I would like everyone to start thinking about a good time and place to hold a regional ALS meeting in Sep/Oct of next year (which would be halfway between the Summit and the Oct 2010 meeting). Because the number of people involved is so small, it could be held anywhere. Perhaps adjacent to another conference? Once upon a time there was a plan to meet, before signing the MOU, at Consumers Union in Yonkers NY. Beau, is that offer still open? There' s no rush, but I just want to toss the idea out to make sure it's not forgotten, in the ICANN budget or otherwise. Nick, what have other regions done in planning this kind of meeting? How much advance notice is needed? - Evan ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .icann.org Visit the NA-RALO Wiki at https://st.icann.org/naralo/ ------ *** Scanned
Yonkers is about 25 minutes in good traffic conditions from White Plains/Westchester Airport, which is a small regional airport but with several daily connections to Toronto, and fewer to Montreal and Ottawa. Yonkers itself is about a 20-minute drive (in good traffic) from mid-town Manhattan, and about 45 minutes drive from JFK and Newark international airports, and about the same for LaGuardia domestic airport. It is possible to take taxis, airport limos, etc. to here from all airports. It's also possible to connect via public transport from JFK and Newark, though not from LaGuardia or White Plains. Public transportation would probably take an hour or more, and you would still need to take a taxi from Yonkers station to Consumers Union. I would recommend taxis, though the fares would probably run upwards of $50 from JFK, $100 from Newark, probably $35 from White Plains. -----Original Message----- From: Thompson, Darlene [mailto:DThompson@GOV.NU.CA] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: Brendler, Beau; Evan Leibovitch; NA Discuss Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting Hi all, My only concern about the Yonkers possibility is its unavailability to any major airport. Beau, how does one get to where you are from the nearest airport? I don't actually know the geography there all that well (OK, not at ALL!)! D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:28 AM To: Evan Leibovitch; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting The offer to meet at Consumers Union in lovely Yonkers is most certainly still open. We've even installed Wi-Fi in the building since this was last discussed. -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Evan Leibovitch Sent: Mon 3/10/2008 6:39 PM To: NA Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting Hello all, I noticed, while going through the calendar, that there is no ICANN meeting scheduled for the North American Region until Oct 17-23, 2010. Usually ALSs are invited to have their regional in-person meets at the local ICANN meeting. It is my recollection that, if there is no meeting taking place in a region during a calendar year, policy allows that ALSs of that region are entitled to have an in-person regional meeting. I believe there is a precedent already, a meeting held February 2007 by APRALO in Bali. (I also seem to recall that a proposal last year for a EURALO meeting for Geneva was refused...) In 2007 we met in San Juan, and I anticipate we will all be at the Summit in November this year. However, there will be no North American ICANN meeting in calendar 2009, and I would like everyone to start thinking about a good time and place to hold a regional ALS meeting in Sep/Oct of next year (which would be halfway between the Summit and the Oct 2010 meeting). Because the number of people involved is so small, it could be held anywhere. Perhaps adjacent to another conference? Once upon a time there was a plan to meet, before signing the MOU, at Consumers Union in Yonkers NY. Beau, is that offer still open? There' s no rush, but I just want to toss the idea out to make sure it's not forgotten, in the ICANN budget or otherwise. Nick, what have other regions done in planning this kind of meeting? How much advance notice is needed? - Evan ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .icann.org Visit the NA-RALO Wiki at https://st.icann.org/naralo/ ------ *** Scanned *** Scanned
Ah! Well then its no problem that way at all. I somehow thought that it was much further. Those distances/taxi fares seem pretty normal to me. D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________ From: Brendler, Beau [mailto:Brenbe@consumer.org] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:24 AM To: Thompson, Darlene; Evan Leibovitch; NA Discuss Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting Yonkers is about 25 minutes in good traffic conditions from White Plains/Westchester Airport, which is a small regional airport but with several daily connections to Toronto, and fewer to Montreal and Ottawa. Yonkers itself is about a 20-minute drive (in good traffic) from mid-town Manhattan, and about 45 minutes drive from JFK and Newark international airports, and about the same for LaGuardia domestic airport. It is possible to take taxis, airport limos, etc. to here from all airports. It's also possible to connect via public transport from JFK and Newark, though not from LaGuardia or White Plains. Public transportation would probably take an hour or more, and you would still need to take a taxi from Yonkers station to Consumers Union. I would recommend taxis, though the fares would probably run upwards of $50 from JFK, $100 from Newark, probably $35 from White Plains. -----Original Message----- From: Thompson, Darlene [mailto:DThompson@GOV.NU.CA] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:12 AM To: Brendler, Beau; Evan Leibovitch; NA Discuss Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting Hi all, My only concern about the Yonkers possibility is its unavailability to any major airport. Beau, how does one get to where you are from the nearest airport? I don't actually know the geography there all that well (OK, not at ALL!)! D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Brendler, Beau Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:28 AM To: Evan Leibovitch; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting The offer to meet at Consumers Union in lovely Yonkers is most certainly still open. We've even installed Wi-Fi in the building since this was last discussed. -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Evan Leibovitch Sent: Mon 3/10/2008 6:39 PM To: NA Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting Hello all, I noticed, while going through the calendar, that there is no ICANN meeting scheduled for the North American Region until Oct 17-23, 2010. Usually ALSs are invited to have their regional in-person meets at the local ICANN meeting. It is my recollection that, if there is no meeting taking place in a region during a calendar year, policy allows that ALSs of that region are entitled to have an in-person regional meeting. I believe there is a precedent already, a meeting held February 2007 by APRALO in Bali. (I also seem to recall that a proposal last year for a EURALO meeting for Geneva was refused...) In 2007 we met in San Juan, and I anticipate we will all be at the Summit in November this year. However, there will be no North American ICANN meeting in calendar 2009, and I would like everyone to start thinking about a good time and place to hold a regional ALS meeting in Sep/Oct of next year (which would be halfway between the Summit and the Oct 2010 meeting). Because the number of people involved is so small, it could be held anywhere. Perhaps adjacent to another conference? Once upon a time there was a plan to meet, before signing the MOU, at Consumers Union in Yonkers NY. Beau, is that offer still open? There' s no rush, but I just want to toss the idea out to make sure it's not forgotten, in the ICANN budget or otherwise. Nick, what have other regions done in planning this kind of meeting? How much advance notice is needed? - Evan ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .icann.org Visit the NA-RALO Wiki at https://st.icann.org/naralo/ ------ *** Scanned *** Scanned
Ah! Well then its no problem that way at all. I somehow thought that it was much further. Those distances/taxi fares seem pretty normal to me.
Since you would presumably be flying via Ottawa, your best bet is probably to fly to LaGuardia. There appear to be some limo services that will take you to Yonkers if you don't want to pay for a taxi from the airport. Public transporation is straightforward but slow. From the airport, you pick up the M60 city bus (metrocard required which you buy at any Hudson News newsstand at the airport) and take it to the 125th st commuter train station in Manhattan. From there you take the train to Hastings-on-Hudson where you can get a taxi for the short trip to CU. But unless you have a lot of stuff you want to read on the bus and train, I'd take a taxi or limo directly from the airport. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
Thank you, everybody, for helping out one slightly geographically-confused person! As public transportation in strange cities scares the willies out of me, I think I'll stick with the taxi/limo idea! I would pay about the same for taxis in Vancouver, Toronto or Halifax so I can't think that the cost is out of line. D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: John Levine [mailto:johnl@iecc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:17 PM To: Thompson, Darlene Cc: NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting
Ah! Well then its no problem that way at all. I somehow thought that it was much further. Those distances/taxi fares seem pretty normal to me.
Since you would presumably be flying via Ottawa, your best bet is probably to fly to LaGuardia. There appear to be some limo services that will take you to Yonkers if you don't want to pay for a taxi from the airport. Public transporation is straightforward but slow. From the airport, you pick up the M60 city bus (metrocard required which you buy at any Hudson News newsstand at the airport) and take it to the 125th st commuter train station in Manhattan. From there you take the train to Hastings-on-Hudson where you can get a taxi for the short trip to CU. But unless you have a lot of stuff you want to read on the bus and train, I'd take a taxi or limo directly from the airport. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
At least at this time, Air Canada has four flights a day from Toronto to the White Plains airport (HPN). Most of the major US carriers have a number of daily trips to/from their hubs (Atlanta, Chicago, Washington). (It's not a big city, but being home of IBM's world headquarters doesn't hurt.) That's the good news. The bad news is that most of those flights don't use jets. Even the Dash 8 is too big for the flights by Air Canada and United. If you want a big plane, go to Laguardia. Then again, it doesn't HAVE to be Yonkers. Does anyone have a better idea? There's always the Capital Suites (http://www.capitalsuites.ca/iqaluit.htm) - Evan
At least at this time, Air Canada has four flights a day from Toronto to the White Plains airport (HPN). Most of the major US carriers have a number of daily trips to/from their hubs (Atlanta, Chicago, Washington).
Having lived not too far from Yonkers, and having flown in and out of both LGA (LaGuardia) and HPN (White Plains), most people would be better off going to LGA unless there are nonstop flights to and from HPN exactly when you want to go. Yonkers isn't exactly the most fabulously convenient place in the country, but it is within daytrip distance of close to half the population, anyone from Chicago east, Toronto south, and D.C. north. R's, John
At 13/03/2008 06:27 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
At least at this time, Air Canada has four flights a day from Toronto to the White Plains airport (HPN). Most of the major US carriers have a number of daily trips to/from their hubs (Atlanta, Chicago, Washington).
(It's not a big city, but being home of IBM's world headquarters doesn't hurt.)
More likely being near a HUGE population of people who live outside of NYC and have zero interest in transiting busy highways to get to one of the larger airports. Alan
Air Canada flies little jets into Newark, big and little jets into LaGuardia, and little Beechcraft prop planes into White Plains. LaGuardia is a half hour away from Consumers Union in good traffic (before 6 a.m., or between 11 a.m. and 2 p.m., or after 8 p.m.) Newark is 45 minutes away. -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:23 PM To: NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting At 13/03/2008 06:27 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
At least at this time, Air Canada has four flights a day from Toronto to the White Plains airport (HPN). Most of the major US carriers have a
number of daily trips to/from their hubs (Atlanta, Chicago, Washington).
(It's not a big city, but being home of IBM's world headquarters doesn't hurt.)
More likely being near a HUGE population of people who live outside of NYC and have zero interest in transiting busy highways to get to one of the larger airports. Alan ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .icann.org Visit the NA-RALO Wiki at https://st.icann.org/naralo/ ------ *** Scanned
You might take a look at Las Vegas as a possibility. It's usually VERY cheap to get out there, and cheap to stay. Inexpensive buffets round out the package. At 6:27 PM -0400 3/13/08, Evan Leibovitch recently said:
At least at this time, Air Canada has four flights a day from Toronto to the White Plains airport (HPN). Most of the major US carriers have a number of daily trips to/from their hubs (Atlanta, Chicago, Washington).
(It's not a big city, but being home of IBM's world headquarters doesn't hurt.)
That's the good news. The bad news is that most of those flights don't use jets. Even the Dash 8 is too big for the flights by Air Canada and United. If you want a big plane, go to Laguardia.
Then again, it doesn't HAVE to be Yonkers. Does anyone have a better idea? There's always the Capital Suites (http://www.capitalsuites.ca/iqaluit.htm)
- Evan
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Hi Darlene Yonkers is NYC. . Coming up Riverside Drive in Manhattan, I remember the Yonkers exit being not too far driving from the 96th st exit This was a while ago, so I may be wrong. Jacqueline Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Hi all,
My only concern about the Yonkers possibility is its unavailability to any major airport. Beau, how does one get to where you are from the nearest airport? I don’t actually know the geography there all that well (OK, not at ALL!)!
D
Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
Phone: (867) 975-5631
Fax: (867) 975-5610
dthompson@gov.nu.ca
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*From:* na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Brendler, Beau *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:28 AM *To:* Evan Leibovitch; NA Discuss *Subject:* Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting
The offer to meet at Consumers Union in lovely Yonkers is most certainly still open. We've even installed Wi-Fi in the building since this was last discussed.
-----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Evan Leibovitch Sent: Mon 3/10/2008 6:39 PM To: NA Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] NARALO 2009 Regional Meeting
Hello all,
I noticed, while going through the calendar, that there is no ICANN meeting scheduled for the North American Region until Oct 17-23, 2010.
Usually ALSs are invited to have their regional in-person meets at the local ICANN meeting. It is my recollection that, if there is no meeting taking place in a region during a calendar year, policy allows that ALSs of that region are entitled to have an in-person regional meeting. I believe there is a precedent already, a meeting held February 2007 by APRALO in Bali. (I also seem to recall that a proposal last year for a EURALO meeting for Geneva was refused...)
In 2007 we met in San Juan, and I anticipate we will all be at the Summit in November this year. However, there will be no North American ICANN meeting in calendar 2009, and I would like everyone to start thinking about a good time and place to hold a regional ALS meeting in Sep/Oct of next year (which would be halfway between the Summit and the Oct 2010 meeting). Because the number of people involved is so small, it could be held anywhere. Perhaps adjacent to another conference?
Once upon a time there was a plan to meet, before signing the MOU, at Consumers Union in Yonkers NY. Beau, is that offer still open?
There' s no rush, but I just want to toss the idea out to make sure it's not forgotten, in the ICANN budget or otherwise.
Nick, what have other regions done in planning this kind of meeting? How much advance notice is needed?
- Evan
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