I would put forward that official languages should be used, otherwise as Luc has mentioned in the past .. it can be a slippery slope. As for spanish / french - Stats are in order ... ti have been able to find indicate that 12% of the US population speaks spanish, as opposed to 15.3 % who speak french in canada. As a Canadian, i'd been keen that other languages also be given status. For one, Indigenous languages are official in parts of our country (NWT, Yukon & Nunavut ) as well our census indicates that chinese (mostly cantonese) , Italian , Greek, italian, etc. The larger question really depends on ICANN and what resources it might be willing to give. That's a question I can't answer. Right now we have more french speaking ALS in the region then we have spanish. Perhaps that might change in the future. When it does, then i suggest we modify the OP so that spanish is added to French & English as our official working languages. saludos a todos. Roberto --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 Refs: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=CA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_in_the_United_States http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/Products/Analytic/companion/ lang/contents.cfm Canada. 32,507,874. Indian 800,000 and Inuit 32,000 ethnic total (1993): 146,285 first-language speakers (1981 census). 4,120,770 non- English or French first language, or 15.3% (1991 census). National or official languages: English, French. Literacy rate: 96% to 99%. Also includes Afrikaans (2,353), Armenian (20,053), Assyrian Neo-Aramaic (5,000), Belarusan (2,280), Bulgarian (2,276), Central Khmer, Chaldean Neo-Aramaic, Corsican, Czech (27,038), Danish (29,807), Eastern Panjabi (214,530), Eastern Yiddish (49,890), Estonian (15,295), Finnish (39,069), Greek (143,892), Haitian Creole French (12,317), Hebrew, Hungarian (86,835), Icelandic, Irish Gaelic, Italian (514,410), Iu Mien (100), Japanese (43,000), Judeo-Moroccan Arabic, Kashubian, Korean (73,000), Lao, Latvian (15,000), Lithuanian, Macedonian (12,464), Maltese, Najdi Spoken Arabic (20,000), Northern Kurdish (6,000), Nung, Plains Indian Sign Language, Polish (222,355), Pontic, Portuguese (222,870), Romanian (16,356), Russian (31,745), Scottish Gaelic (3,525), Serbian (7,966), Sinhala (3,004), Slovak, Slovenian (6,415), Southwestern Caribbean Creole English, Spanish (228,580), Standard German (470,505), Swedish (21,591), Sylheti, Tagalog (158,210), Tongan, Turkish (5,179), Turoyo, Ukrainian (174,830), Vietnamese (60,000), Vlax Romani, Welsh (3,160), Western Farsi (15,000), Western Panjabi, Yue Chinese (250,000), India and Pakistan (280,000), speakers of many European languages. Information mainly from W. Chafe 1962, 1965; SIL 1951– 2002. Blind population: 27,184. Deaf population: 1,704,551. Deaf institutions: Many. The number of languages listed for Canada is 89. Of those, 85 are living languages and 4 are extinct. On 5-Jun-07, at 12:30 PM, Eduardo Diaz, PE wrote:
Jacqueline is right. Spanish should be included. Even though Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the US, the 4 million people that live here communicate in Spanish.
Eduardo Díaz President ISCOPR www.isocpr.org
-----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jacqueline A. Morris Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'John L'; 'Robert Guerra' Cc: 'NA Discuss' Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting Update
Given that Puerto Rico is in NA - should you add Spanish now anyway? There's one ALS from Puerto Rico - ISOC PR. Jacqueline
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- Official languages: The USA (as stated by congress) is English, Canada's
official languages (at a federal level) are English and French
The US has no official language. But English is the de facto national language.
In the discussions I've heard, we agreed that if ICANN reorganized the regions to put Mexico into NA, we would add Spanish as a working langauge.
R's, John
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Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I leave it up to the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take this forward or not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be more ALS applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish if they want to. Jacqueline -----Original Message----- From: Robert Guerra [mailto:lists@privaterra.info] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 4:17 PM To: ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com Cc: Jacqueline A. Morris; NA Discuss Subject: Re: Language I would put forward that official languages should be used, otherwise as Luc has mentioned in the past .. it can be a slippery slope. As for spanish / french - Stats are in order ... ti have been able to find indicate that 12% of the US population speaks spanish, as opposed to 15.3 % who speak french in canada. As a Canadian, i'd been keen that other languages also be given status. For one, Indigenous languages are official in parts of our country (NWT, Yukon & Nunavut ) as well our census indicates that chinese (mostly cantonese) , Italian , Greek, italian, etc. The larger question really depends on ICANN and what resources it might be willing to give. That's a question I can't answer. Right now we have more french speaking ALS in the region then we have spanish. Perhaps that might change in the future. When it does, then i suggest we modify the OP so that spanish is added to French & English as our official working languages. saludos a todos. Roberto --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 Refs: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=CA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_in_the_United_States http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/Products/Analytic/companion/ lang/contents.cfm Canada. 32,507,874. Indian 800,000 and Inuit 32,000 ethnic total (1993): 146,285 first-language speakers (1981 census). 4,120,770 non- English or French first language, or 15.3% (1991 census). National or official languages: English, French. Literacy rate: 96% to 99%. Also includes Afrikaans (2,353), Armenian (20,053), Assyrian Neo-Aramaic (5,000), Belarusan (2,280), Bulgarian (2,276), Central Khmer, Chaldean Neo-Aramaic, Corsican, Czech (27,038), Danish (29,807), Eastern Panjabi (214,530), Eastern Yiddish (49,890), Estonian (15,295), Finnish (39,069), Greek (143,892), Haitian Creole French (12,317), Hebrew, Hungarian (86,835), Icelandic, Irish Gaelic, Italian (514,410), Iu Mien (100), Japanese (43,000), Judeo-Moroccan Arabic, Kashubian, Korean (73,000), Lao, Latvian (15,000), Lithuanian, Macedonian (12,464), Maltese, Najdi Spoken Arabic (20,000), Northern Kurdish (6,000), Nung, Plains Indian Sign Language, Polish (222,355), Pontic, Portuguese (222,870), Romanian (16,356), Russian (31,745), Scottish Gaelic (3,525), Serbian (7,966), Sinhala (3,004), Slovak, Slovenian (6,415), Southwestern Caribbean Creole English, Spanish (228,580), Standard German (470,505), Swedish (21,591), Sylheti, Tagalog (158,210), Tongan, Turkish (5,179), Turoyo, Ukrainian (174,830), Vietnamese (60,000), Vlax Romani, Welsh (3,160), Western Farsi (15,000), Western Panjabi, Yue Chinese (250,000), India and Pakistan (280,000), speakers of many European languages. Information mainly from W. Chafe 1962, 1965; SIL 1951 2002. Blind population: 27,184. Deaf population: 1,704,551. Deaf institutions: Many. The number of languages listed for Canada is 89. Of those, 85 are living languages and 4 are extinct. On 5-Jun-07, at 12:30 PM, Eduardo Diaz, PE wrote:
Jacqueline is right. Spanish should be included. Even though Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the US, the 4 million people that live here communicate in Spanish.
Eduardo Díaz President ISCOPR www.isocpr.org
-----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jacqueline A. Morris Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:08 PM To: 'John L'; 'Robert Guerra' Cc: 'NA Discuss' Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting Update
Given that Puerto Rico is in NA - should you add Spanish now anyway? There's one ALS from Puerto Rico - ISOC PR. Jacqueline
-----Original Message----- From: John L [mailto:johnl@iecc.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:48 AM To: Robert Guerra Cc: NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting Update
- Official languages: The USA (as stated by congress) is English, Canada's
official languages (at a federal level) are English and French
The US has no official language. But English is the de facto national language.
In the discussions I've heard, we agreed that if ICANN reorganized the regions to put Mexico into NA, we would add Spanish as a working langauge.
R's, John
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Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I leave it up to the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take this forward or not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be more ALS applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish if they want to.
Well, then you open the issue of why there should be a RALO with only three participating jurisdictions. Funny, elswehere in the world the RALO boundaries are drawn on continental boundaries. Newcomers can only wonder about the politics behind the decision to keep the Caribbean and Mexico out of North America on ICANN's globe. Of course, one other option is to ask the Puerto Rican ALSs if they'd prefer to be part of the LAC-RALO - Evan
Actually, they did ask if they could be LACRALO members - LACRALO determined it had no issue accepting them if they wanted to be - but that was last year before there was movement on forming the NARALO. But with regard to languages - if the agreement was for the official languages of the members of the regions, then, as PR is a member of the region, Spanish should be included. No matter how many or how few people speak it. ICANN did have a consultation going on the regional classification a while ago -I can check back to see what came of it - I don't recall seeing a report or anything yet. Jacqueline -----Original Message----- From: Evan Leibovitch [mailto:evan@telly.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:50 PM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: 'Robert Guerra'; ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com; 'NA Discuss' Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I leave it up to the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take this forward or not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be more ALS applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish if they want to.
Well, then you open the issue of why there should be a RALO with only three participating jurisdictions. Funny, elswehere in the world the RALO boundaries are drawn on continental boundaries. Newcomers can only wonder about the politics behind the decision to keep the Caribbean and Mexico out of North America on ICANN's globe. Of course, one other option is to ask the Puerto Rican ALSs if they'd prefer to be part of the LAC-RALO - Evan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 6:43 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 6:43 PM
The region consultation is still going on - every month I'm asked by someone within ICANN to get -SOME- response on that consultation from the At-Large community. At the moment, PR is in North America because of the regional configuration of the ICANN Geographic Regions. If PR wants to move to LAC, again, now would be the time to put that suggestion forward.... -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart On 6 Jun 2007, at 01:18, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Actually, they did ask if they could be LACRALO members - LACRALO determined it had no issue accepting them if they wanted to be - but that was last year before there was movement on forming the NARALO. But with regard to languages - if the agreement was for the official languages of the members of the regions, then, as PR is a member of the region, Spanish should be included. No matter how many or how few people speak it. ICANN did have a consultation going on the regional classification a while ago -I can check back to see what came of it - I don't recall seeing a report or anything yet. Jacqueline
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Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I leave it up to the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take this forward or not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be more ALS applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish if they want to.
Well, then you open the issue of why there should be a RALO with only three participating jurisdictions.
Funny, elswehere in the world the RALO boundaries are drawn on continental boundaries. Newcomers can only wonder about the politics behind the decision to keep the Caribbean and Mexico out of North America on ICANN's globe.
Of course, one other option is to ask the Puerto Rican ALSs if they'd prefer to be part of the LAC-RALO
- Evan
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Hi Nick I thought that Jocob took comments from the Caribbean to collate – I know there was a discussion on it. I can collate if that didn’t happen… Jacqueline From: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:19 AM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: 'Evan Leibovitch'; ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com; 'NA Discuss' Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language The region consultation is still going on - every month I'm asked by someone within ICANN to get -SOME- response on that consultation from the At-Large community. At the moment, PR is in North America because of the regional configuration of the ICANN Geographic Regions. If PR wants to move to LAC, again, now would be the time to put that suggestion forward.... -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: HYPERLINK "mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org"nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: HYPERLINK "mailto:ashtonhart@hotmail.com"ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: HYPERLINK "mailto:nashtonhart@mac.com"nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: HYPERLINK "https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart"https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonha rt On 6 Jun 2007, at 01:18, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: Actually, they did ask if they could be LACRALO members - LACRALO determined it had no issue accepting them if they wanted to be - but that was last year before there was movement on forming the NARALO. But with regard to languages - if the agreement was for the official languages of the members of the regions, then, as PR is a member of the region, Spanish should be included. No matter how many or how few people speak it. ICANN did have a consultation going on the regional classification a while ago -I can check back to see what came of it - I don't recall seeing a report or anything yet. Jacqueline -----Original Message----- From: Evan Leibovitch [HYPERLINK "mailto:evan@telly.org"mailto:evan@telly.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:50 PM To: HYPERLINK "mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com"jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: 'Robert Guerra'; HYPERLINK "mailto:ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com"ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com; 'NA Discuss' Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I leave it up to the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take this forward or not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be more ALS applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish if they want to. Well, then you open the issue of why there should be a RALO with only three participating jurisdictions. Funny, elswehere in the world the RALO boundaries are drawn on continental boundaries. Newcomers can only wonder about the politics behind the decision to keep the Caribbean and Mexico out of North America on ICANN's globe. Of course, one other option is to ask the Puerto Rican ALSs if they'd prefer to be part of the LAC-RALO - Evan No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 6:43 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 6/4/2007 6:43 PM _______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list HYPERLINK "mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.or g HYPERLINK "http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic ann.org"http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-l ists.icann.org --- Draft MoU with ICANN: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU"http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU Draft Operating Principles: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP"http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP Draft Code of Conduct: HYPERLINK "http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct"http://www.icannwiki.org/NA RALO_Code_of_Conduct No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 6/5/2007 2:38 PM
There are no comments from At-Large to date - see http:// forum.icann.org/lists/geo-regions-comments/ On 6 Jun 2007, at 15:56, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Hi Nick
I thought that Jocob took comments from the Caribbean to collate – I know there was a discussion on it. I can collate if that didn’t happen…
Jacqueline
From: Nick Ashton-Hart [mailto:nick.ashton-hart@icann.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:19 AM To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com Cc: 'Evan Leibovitch'; ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com; 'NA Discuss' Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language
The region consultation is still going on - every month I'm asked by someone within ICANN to get -SOME- response on that consultation from the At-Large community.
At the moment, PR is in North America because of the regional configuration of the ICANN Geographic Regions. If PR wants to move to LAC, again, now would be the time to put that suggestion forward....
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On 6 Jun 2007, at 01:18, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Actually, they did ask if they could be LACRALO members - LACRALO determined
it had no issue accepting them if they wanted to be - but that was last year
before there was movement on forming the NARALO.
But with regard to languages - if the agreement was for the official
languages of the members of the regions, then, as PR is a member of the
region, Spanish should be included. No matter how many or how few people
speak it.
ICANN did have a consultation going on the regional classification a while
ago -I can check back to see what came of it - I don't recall seeing a
report or anything yet.
Jacqueline
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To: jam@jacquelinemorris.com
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Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is
officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I leave it up to
the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take this forward or
not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be more ALS
applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish if they want to.
Well, then you open the issue of why there should be a RALO with only
three participating jurisdictions.
Funny, elswehere in the world the RALO boundaries are drawn on
continental boundaries. Newcomers can only wonder about the politics
behind the decision to keep the Caribbean and Mexico out of North
America on ICANN's globe.
Of course, one other option is to ask the Puerto Rican ALSs if they'd
prefer to be part of the LAC-RALO
- Evan
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Evan: With respect to the regional configurations, this originally went off of a UN list, where territories attached to a country were in the region of the country. For this reason, we have French islands in the Caribbean as a part of the European Region, etc. On 5 Jun 2007, at 22:50, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I leave it up to the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take this forward or not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be more ALS applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish if they want to.
Well, then you open the issue of why there should be a RALO with only three participating jurisdictions.
Funny, elswehere in the world the RALO boundaries are drawn on continental boundaries. Newcomers can only wonder about the politics behind the decision to keep the Caribbean and Mexico out of North America on ICANN's globe.
Of course, one other option is to ask the Puerto Rican ALSs if they'd prefer to be part of the LAC-RALO
- Evan
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Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP
Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
Finally... a DNS-related discussion has emerged on web405: The issue concerns the registration of individual names. An example was cited of a teacher whose personal name was registered by another person with the intent to make her look bad. The initial proposal was that the proper name of a human being should be restricted in the DNS only to those people with that particular name. Further discussions noted that the UDRP is not the proper vehicle for a resolution of this type of dispute (...and we all know that revisions to the UDRP have been warranted for some time). This is a topic that the "Protection of the Rights of Others Working Group" didn't touch (as their sole focus appears to be on enhancing protections for commercial Intellectual Property interests). In my view, this issue bears examination. If others agree, an Issues Report should be requested. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Puerto Rico's official languages are English and Spanish according to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_%28Puerto_Rico%29
It's actually a point of pride with most Americans, who have rebuffed numerous attempts over the years by conservative legislators to install English as the official language. It means at my local polling place you can get a ballot in English, Spanish, Armenian, or Korean.
Except the U.S. doesn't have an official language.
Oh the myriad responses that come to mind...
Didn't know that, thanks Bret!
It's actually a point of pride with most Americans, who have rebuffed numerous attempts over the years by conservative legislators to install English as the official language. It means at my local polling place you can get a ballot in English, Spanish, Armenian, or Korean.
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Bret Fausett -
Danny Younger -
Evan Leibovitch -
Jacob Malthouse -
Jacqueline A. Morris -
Nick Ashton-Hart -
Robert Guerra