ARIN Policy on Community Networks
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa. Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments? Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa. Marita On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
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Hi Marita On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa.
- www.fireafrica.org. It's AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community network projects mentioned are: Tobesta (ZA): https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016 Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016 Thanks, Susannah
Marita
On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
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Hi Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an intervention. Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita who are experts on community networks My own focus is very small community network(mesh) G Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 . On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Marita
On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa.
- www.fireafrica.org. It's AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community network projects mentioned are:
Tobesta (ZA): https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards- winners-2016
Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016
Thanks,
Susannah
Marita
On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 <(289)%20830-6259> .
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I forwarded Susannah's earlier comments to Brian of NYC Mesh. I am sure they have a interest too. Both of you are on their slack I think (Susannah, did you get the invite?) j On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update
ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html
Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an intervention. Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita who are experts on community networks
My own focus is very small community network(mesh) G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 <(289)%20830-6259> .
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Marita
On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa.
- www.fireafrica.org. It's AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community network projects mentioned are:
Tobesta (ZA): https://www.afrinic.net/fr/lib rary/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016
Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016
Thanks,
Susannah
Marita
On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 <(289)%20830-6259> .
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We already did provide an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The result was that the policy was not to be removed at the moment and that the definition of community networks (i.e. the demand that they be totally volunteer driven) should be revisited. At least, that's how I remember it. Marita On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi
Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update
ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html
Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an intervention. Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita who are experts on community networks
My own focus is very small community network(mesh) G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Marita
On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa.
- www.fireafrica.org <http://www.fireafrica.org>. It's AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community network projects mentioned are:
Tobesta (ZA): https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016 <https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016>
Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016 <http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016>
Thanks,
Susannah
Marita
On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html>
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 <tel:%28289%29%20830-6259> .
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Hi all, Perhaps we should contact the policy 'shepherds' and ask how we can put forward a new definition for consideration. I think it should be as simple as posting a proposed new definition to the ARIN policy mailing list and asking the community for comments. As far as I am aware the policy has not been changed because there was no consensus gained during ARIN39 to remove the clause about community networks, mainly due to the comments made by the NARALO representatives. So, the policy will be discussed again at the next meeting in San Jose in October, and it would be a good idea to circulate a proposed definition before then. Cheers, Susannah On 01/06/2017 06:07, Marita Moll wrote:
We already did provide an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The result was that the policy was not to be removed at the moment and that the definition of community networks (i.e. the demand that they be totally volunteer driven) should be revisited.
At least, that's how I remember it.
Marita
On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi
Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update
ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html
Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an intervention. Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita who are experts on community networks
My own focus is very small community network(mesh) G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Marita
On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa.
- www.fireafrica.org <http://www.fireafrica.org>. It's AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community network projects mentioned are:
Tobesta (ZA): https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016 <https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016>
Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016 <http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016>
Thanks,
Susannah
Marita
On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html>
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 <tel:%28289%29%20830-6259> .
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Yes, I did speak to Alyssa Moore (from Cybera in Alberta) who is one of the shepherds during the meeting and she is very amenable to helping us get this through. But it would also be good to speak to one of the people who originally got this policy on the books whose name was (I think) David Farmer. Marita On 6/1/2017 12:46 PM, Susannah Gray wrote:
Hi all,
Perhaps we should contact the policy 'shepherds' and ask how we can put forward a new definition for consideration. I think it should be as simple as posting a proposed new definition to the ARIN policy mailing list and asking the community for comments.
As far as I am aware the policy has not been changed because there was no consensus gained during ARIN39 to remove the clause about community networks, mainly due to the comments made by the NARALO representatives. So, the policy will be discussed again at the next meeting in San Jose in October, and it would be a good idea to circulate a proposed definition before then.
Cheers,
Susannah
On 01/06/2017 06:07, Marita Moll wrote:
We already did provide an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The result was that the policy was not to be removed at the moment and that the definition of community networks (i.e. the demand that they be totally volunteer driven) should be revisited.
At least, that's how I remember it.
Marita
On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi
Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update
ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html
Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an intervention. Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita who are experts on community networks
My own focus is very small community network(mesh) G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Marita
On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa.
- www.fireafrica.org <http://www.fireafrica.org>. It's AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community network projects mentioned are:
Tobesta (ZA): https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016 <https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016>
Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016 <http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016>
Thanks,
Susannah
Marita
On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html>
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 <tel:%28289%29%20830-6259> .
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Hello: This was my understanding too as noted below by Marita and Susannah. I agree with Susannah's proposed approach. Leah On 6/1/17 12:46 PM, Susannah Gray wrote:
Hi all,
Perhaps we should contact the policy 'shepherds' and ask how we can put forward a new definition for consideration. I think it should be as simple as posting a proposed new definition to the ARIN policy mailing list and asking the community for comments.
As far as I am aware the policy has not been changed because there was no consensus gained during ARIN39 to remove the clause about community networks, mainly due to the comments made by the NARALO representatives. So, the policy will be discussed again at the next meeting in San Jose in October, and it would be a good idea to circulate a proposed definition before then.
Cheers,
Susannah
On 01/06/2017 06:07, Marita Moll wrote:
We already did provide an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The result was that the policy was not to be removed at the moment and that the definition of community networks (i.e. the demand that they be totally volunteer driven) should be revisited.
At least, that's how I remember it.
Marita
On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi
Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update
ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html
Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an intervention. Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita who are experts on community networks
My own focus is very small community network(mesh) G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 .
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Marita
On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa.
- www.fireafrica.org <http://www.fireafrica.org>. It's AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community network projects mentioned are:
Tobesta (ZA): https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016 <https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016>
Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016 <http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016>
Thanks,
Susannah
Marita
On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html>
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 <tel:%28289%29%20830-6259> .
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As I said before, I think it would be wise to also work with the originators of this policy. We had a lunchtime meeting with David Farmer and one other person I can't remember. They may already have put something together. I could contact Alyssa unless this has already been done. Marita On 6/3/2017 4:48 PM, Leah Symekher wrote:
Hello:
This was my understanding too as noted below by Marita and Susannah. I agree with Susannah's proposed approach.
Leah
On 6/1/17 12:46 PM, Susannah Gray wrote:
Hi all,
Perhaps we should contact the policy 'shepherds' and ask how we can put forward a new definition for consideration. I think it should be as simple as posting a proposed new definition to the ARIN policy mailing list and asking the community for comments.
As far as I am aware the policy has not been changed because there was no consensus gained during ARIN39 to remove the clause about community networks, mainly due to the comments made by the NARALO representatives. So, the policy will be discussed again at the next meeting in San Jose in October, and it would be a good idea to circulate a proposed definition before then.
Cheers,
Susannah
On 01/06/2017 06:07, Marita Moll wrote:
We already did provide an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The result was that the policy was not to be removed at the moment and that the definition of community networks (i.e. the demand that they be totally volunteer driven) should be revisited.
At least, that's how I remember it.
Marita
On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi
Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update
ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_2.html
Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an intervention. Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita who are experts on community networks
My own focus is very small community network(mesh) G
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On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com <mailto:susannah.gray@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Marita
On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:
Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa.
- www.fireafrica.org <http://www.fireafrica.org>. It's AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community network projects mentioned are:
Tobesta (ZA): https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016 <https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016>
Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016 <http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016>
Thanks,
Susannah
Marita
On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html>
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
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There are identifiable communities in the North American Region that would benefit from a community network initiative. So it mKES SENSE TO ME. John More ISOC-DC
On May 31, 2017, at 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html <https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html>
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
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Hi Glenn, On 31/05/2017 01:24, Glenn McKnight wrote: > Hi > If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO > members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy > > See policy document > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html > > I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks > today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC > Membership from community networks. Note they - AFRINIC staff? > fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South > Africa. - FIRE (grants and award program) is also heavily funded by IDRC, ISOC and Google. > > Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for > ARIN for community networks as well. > Comments? > - This is related to the question I asked during the open mic about whether ARIN is considering setting up a grants program (LACNIC, APNIC, AFRINIC have grant-making programs, RIPE NCC is in the process of setting one up). John Curran said that you may request funds from ARIN for projects (but that they hadn't funded anything for five years) and that there was no plan to set up a grants program unless it was something the members specifically requested that their money be used for. One member then stood up and said that he wouldn't want his money spent on community projects unless they benefitted the ARIN community directly. ARIN is set up as a trade association rather than a not-for-profit like (all?) of the other RIRs, which have to get rid of all their extra funds somehow. That said, John did say to submit proposals for funding so what do we have to lose? Susannah > Glenn McKnight > mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> > skype gmcknight > twitter gmcknight > 289-830 6259 > . > > > ------ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > ------ -- Susannah Gray Communications Consultant | Writer | Editor www.susegray.com - President & Chair San Francisco-Bay Area Internet Society Chapter www.sfbayisoc.org
I say we go for it. Nothing to loose. -ed On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi If you recall at the last ARIN meeting we saw many of our NARALO members comment on the ARIN Community Networks policy
See policy document https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/ARIN_prop_232_orig.html
I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks. Note they fund FIRE which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.
Perhaps we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well. Comments?
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight 289-830 6259 <(289)%20830-6259> .
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