Homework from GA: short para about NARALO mtg and ARIN participation.
Hi, Not sure this is where it was to be sent. What I valued most about the NAROLO GA was the chance to see the group functioning as a group. I am an only an alternate member of NARALO for ISOC-NY and often am looking elsewhere in ICANN, so perhaps have missed the degree of cooperation on the list. Seeing what sort of group we may be becoming, over the 3 days, was a good thing. Personally I think more time could have been spent on a smaller number of topics, but in general thought the agenda worked out well and was worth the time. I think the combination with an ARIN meeting was brilliant. The At-Large can give advice on any issue related to ICANN's mission in names or numbers, so it is good to be in understanding with our counterpart in the numbers space, not quite a sub-component of ASO, but virtually, sort of. Personally, though a long time subscriber to the policy list, and previous remote attendee, I was happy to finally participate in one. I appreciate their openness and they way their process allowed for our participation. There is a lot to be learned from the way in which they implement the multistakeholder process that i am still digesting. thanks avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
I completely agree with Avri. On the ARIN/NARALO combination: On one side, the end-user’s perspective brought by NARALO members to the ARIN meetings prompts ARIN to question and challenge its own historic assumptions about its policies. The IPv6 environment where numbers are no longer a limited resource, opens a new world for end-users as individual owners of IP address blocks. ARIN & NARALO also obviously benefits from the effects of symbiotic evangelization: NARALO attendees learn ARIN better, and we then can explain the role of ARIN and its services better to our peers and others in the ecosystem. In terms of NARALO benefits, well ARIN and its attendees learn about us as an organization and as individuals. The networking opportunities opened up by this type of NARALO/ARIN synergy are significant. Meeting the ARIN people is great in itself: we had great insights from John Curran (ARIN CEO), and great group & individual conversations with ARIN executives, staff and other stakeholders. ARIN attracts stakeholders and personalities which NARALO might not normally attract by itself, such as LACNIC (Oscar Robles), AFRINIC (Alan Barrett) and ICANN President Göran Marby, among several others. NARALO interacted with many of these and other stakeholders; I was able to speak to all, and actually converse at length with Göran and also with Oscar Robles. I was also able to learn about ARIN funding opportunities which can help make a proposed School of Internet Governance in San Juan (just before ICANN61) possible. Another important takeaway for NARALO and At-Large in general is the interesting “path to multi-stakeholder engagement and decision-making” (phrase by Evan). More can be written on this point, but in general I perceived their listening & decision process as very streamlined and inclusive. Like Avri “I’m still digesting” ARIN’s take on multistakeholderism. I wonder how much of it is a bit predetermined top-down, in order to get stuff done, but I still feel and am of the opinion that it was an honest attempt at injecting a bit order into a process that if left to its own devices can sometimes degrades into cat-herding. Kudos to all: Ledership, staff & participants for a worthwhile time in New Orleans. See you (hopefully many of you) in JoBurg! Javier Rúa-Jovet 1-787-396-6511 twitter@javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua From: avri doria Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 12:57 PM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [NA-Discuss] Homework from GA: short para about NARALO mtg and ARINparticipation. Hi, Not sure this is where it was to be sent. What I valued most about the NAROLO GA was the chance to see the group functioning as a group. I am an only an alternate member of NARALO for ISOC-NY and often am looking elsewhere in ICANN, so perhaps have missed the degree of cooperation on the list. Seeing what sort of group we may be becoming, over the 3 days, was a good thing. Personally I think more time could have been spent on a smaller number of topics, but in general thought the agenda worked out well and was worth the time. I think the combination with an ARIN meeting was brilliant. The At-Large can give advice on any issue related to ICANN's mission in names or numbers, so it is good to be in understanding with our counterpart in the numbers space, not quite a sub-component of ASO, but virtually, sort of. Personally, though a long time subscriber to the policy list, and previous remote attendee, I was happy to finally participate in one. I appreciate their openness and they way their process allowed for our participation. There is a lot to be learned from the way in which they implement the multistakeholder process that i am still digesting. thanks avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
Hello: In agreement with Avri and Javier below especially the ARIN/NARALO combination worked perfectly and valuable here is a list: - The networking and F2F meeting opportunity with the ICANN CEO and ARIN CEO - Meeting fellow colleagues to have open and honest discussions - Visibility of NARALO/ALSes at ARIN, with great participation during the policy discussions/meeting - The program was very well organized to allow participation at the ARIN meetings and GA meetings all 3 days. - I would have liked to see a strategic focus for NARALO (as a whole) from the topics and discussions held as take aways Thanks. Leah On 4/10/17 10:26 AM, javrua@gmail.com wrote:
I completely agree with Avri.
On the ARIN/NARALO combination: On one side, the end-user’s perspective brought by NARALO members to the ARIN meetings prompts ARIN to question and challenge its own historic assumptions about its policies. The IPv6 environment where numbers are no longer a limited resource, opens a new world for end-users as individual owners of IP address blocks. ARIN & NARALO also obviously benefits from the effects of symbiotic evangelization: NARALO attendees learn ARIN better, and we then can explain the role of ARIN and its services better to our peers and others in the ecosystem. In terms of NARALO benefits, well ARIN and its attendees learn about us as an organization and as individuals. The networking opportunities opened up by this type of NARALO/ARIN synergy are significant. Meeting the ARIN people is great in itself: we had great insights from John Curran (ARIN CEO), and great group & individual conversations with ARIN executives, staff and other stakeholders. ARIN attracts stakeholders and personalities which NARALO might not normally attract by itself, such as LACNIC (Oscar Robles), AFRINIC (Alan Barrett) and ICANN President Göran Marby, among several others. NARALO interacted with many of these and other stakeholders; I was able to speak to all, and actually converse at length with Göran and also with Oscar Robles. I was also able to learn about ARIN funding opportunities which can help make a proposed School of Internet Governance in San Juan (just before ICANN61) possible. Another important takeaway for NARALO and At-Large in general is the interesting “path to multi-stakeholder engagement and decision-making” (phrase by Evan). More can be written on this point, but in general I perceived their listening & decision process as very streamlined and inclusive. Like Avri “I’m still digesting” ARIN’s take on multistakeholderism. I wonder how much of it is a bit predetermined top-down, in order to get stuff done, but I still feel and am of the opinion that it was an honest attempt at injecting a bit order into a process that if left to its own devices can sometimes degrades into cat-herding.
Kudos to all: Ledership, staff & participants for a worthwhile time in New Orleans. See you (hopefully many of you) in JoBurg!
Javier Rúa-Jovet
1-787-396-6511 twitter@javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
*From: *avri doria <mailto:avri@acm.org> *Sent: *Monday, April 10, 2017 12:57 PM *To: *na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject: *[NA-Discuss] Homework from GA: short para about NARALO mtg and ARINparticipation.
Hi,
Not sure this is where it was to be sent.
What I valued most about the NAROLO GA was the chance to see the group
functioning as a group. I am an only an alternate member of NARALO for
ISOC-NY and often am looking elsewhere in ICANN, so perhaps have missed
the degree of cooperation on the list. Seeing what sort of group we may
be becoming, over the 3 days, was a good thing. Personally I think more
time could have been spent on a smaller number of topics, but in general
thought the agenda worked out well and was worth the time.
I think the combination with an ARIN meeting was brilliant. The
At-Large can give advice on any issue related to ICANN's mission in
names or numbers, so it is good to be in understanding with our
counterpart in the numbers space, not quite a sub-component of ASO, but
virtually, sort of. Personally, though a long time subscriber to the
policy list, and previous remote attendee, I was happy to finally
participate in one. I appreciate their openness and they way their
process allowed for our participation. There is a lot to be learned
from the way in which they implement the multistakeholder process that i
am still digesting.
thanks
avri
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Agreed! Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Apr 11, 2017, at 8:01 PM, Leah Symekher <lsymek@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello:
In agreement with Avri and Javier below especially the ARIN/NARALO combination worked perfectly and valuable here is a list:
- The networking and F2F meeting opportunity with the ICANN CEO and ARIN CEO - Meeting fellow colleagues to have open and honest discussions - Visibility of NARALO/ALSes at ARIN, with great participation during the policy discussions/meeting - The program was very well organized to allow participation at the ARIN meetings and GA meetings all 3 days. - I would have liked to see a strategic focus for NARALO (as a whole) from the topics and discussions held as take aways
Thanks. Leah
On 4/10/17 10:26 AM, javrua@gmail.com wrote: I completely agree with Avri.
On the ARIN/NARALO combination: On one side, the end-user’s perspective brought by NARALO members to the ARIN meetings prompts ARIN to question and challenge its own historic assumptions about its policies. The IPv6 environment where numbers are no longer a limited resource, opens a new world for end-users as individual owners of IP address blocks. ARIN & NARALO also obviously benefits from the effects of symbiotic evangelization: NARALO attendees learn ARIN better, and we then can explain the role of ARIN and its services better to our peers and others in the ecosystem. In terms of NARALO benefits, well ARIN and its attendees learn about us as an organization and as individuals. The networking opportunities opened up by this type of NARALO/ARIN synergy are significant. Meeting the ARIN people is great in itself: we had great insights from John Curran (ARIN CEO), and great group & individual conversations with ARIN executives, staff and other stakeholders. ARIN attracts stakeholders and personalities which NARALO might not normally attract by itself, such as LACNIC (Oscar Robles), AFRINIC (Alan Barrett) and ICANN President Göran Marby, among several others. NARALO interacted with many of these and other stakeholders; I was able to speak to all, and actually converse at length with Göran and also with Oscar Robles. I was also able to learn about ARIN funding opportunities which can help make a proposed School of Internet Governance in San Juan (just before ICANN61) possible. Another important takeaway for NARALO and At-Large in general is the interesting “path to multi-stakeholder engagement and decision-making” (phrase by Evan). More can be written on this point, but in general I perceived their listening & decision process as very streamlined and inclusive. Like Avri “I’m still digesting” ARIN’s take on multistakeholderism. I wonder how much of it is a bit predetermined top-down, in order to get stuff done, but I still feel and am of the opinion that it was an honest attempt at injecting a bit order into a process that if left to its own devices can sometimes degrades into cat-herding.
Kudos to all: Ledership, staff & participants for a worthwhile time in New Orleans. See you (hopefully many of you) in JoBurg!
Javier Rúa-Jovet
1-787-396-6511 twitter@javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
From: avri doria Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 12:57 PM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [NA-Discuss] Homework from GA: short para about NARALO mtg and ARINparticipation.
Hi,
Not sure this is where it was to be sent.
What I valued most about the NAROLO GA was the chance to see the group functioning as a group. I am an only an alternate member of NARALO for ISOC-NY and often am looking elsewhere in ICANN, so perhaps have missed the degree of cooperation on the list. Seeing what sort of group we may be becoming, over the 3 days, was a good thing. Personally I think more time could have been spent on a smaller number of topics, but in general thought the agenda worked out well and was worth the time.
I think the combination with an ARIN meeting was brilliant. The At-Large can give advice on any issue related to ICANN's mission in names or numbers, so it is good to be in understanding with our counterpart in the numbers space, not quite a sub-component of ASO, but virtually, sort of. Personally, though a long time subscriber to the policy list, and previous remote attendee, I was happy to finally participate in one. I appreciate their openness and they way their process allowed for our participation. There is a lot to be learned from the way in which they implement the multistakeholder process that i am still digesting.
thanks
avri
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I have only recently become involved with NARALO through ISOC-DC’s becoming a member and my long relationship with Evan, Glenn and Judith. My interest in the multi-stakeholder model of governance made me interested in NARALO. Agreeing to assist in reworking the Rules of Procedure led to my coming to New Orleans. Since this was my first NARALO in-person meeting, I have nothing to compare New Orleans with. That being said, I was impressed and pleased with the productivity of the NARALO meeting and the opportunities to network. THOUGHT I HAD SENT THIS IN. JOHN MORE
Thanks for your words John and very well appreciated. Kudos to Glenn,Judith and staff for having put it together. -ed On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 6:02 PM John More <morej1@mac.com> wrote:
I have only recently become involved with NARALO through ISOC-DC’s becoming a member and my long relationship with Evan, Glenn and Judith. My interest in the multi-stakeholder model of governance made me interested in NARALO. Agreeing to assist in reworking the Rules of Procedure led to my coming to New Orleans.
Since this was my first NARALO in-person meeting, I have nothing to compare New Orleans with. That being said, I was impressed and pleased with the productivity of the NARALO meeting and the opportunities to network.
THOUGHT I HAD SENT THIS IN.
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