Selection of our Chair and Secretariat
Hello all, [I am cross-posting because not all voting delegates subscribed to NA-ALS are subscribed to NA-DISCUSS.] In the event that our Operating Principles are adopted (the voting period ends today), we are to select our Chair and Secretariat by this Friday. As per our OP, the Chair will be a person; the Secretariat may be a person or an organization. No other restrictions apply, so they do not have to be from a certified ALS. You are invited to either self-nominate or propose others before this Thursday 23:59 PST. If our OPs are adopted today, we will vote for our Chair and Secretariat on Friday. The persons/organization with the most votes for each seat will win. The responsabilities of our Chair are (lifted from our OP): * The Chair shall act as moderator and facilitator of the work of the NARALO. * The Chair shall be empowered to issue Calls for Statements of Interest for service on the ALAC and to sign and receive any official correspondence to and from ICANN or the At-Large Structures. * The Chair and Secretariat shall be ineligible to serve on the ALAC or ICANN's Nominating Committee in any year in which they serve for NARALO. * In the event that the Chair determines that rough consensus does not exist for the selection of one or more candidates for ALAC seats, the General Assembly will vote. In the event of a tie, the Chair will cast an extra vote. * Rough consensus, as determined by the Chair, will generally be used within the NARALO to manage its current affairs (e.g. producing recommendations to ICANN). * The NARALO Chair is empowered to suspend or restrict a person's posting rights when the content that person has posted is inappropriate and represents a pattern of abuse. The Chair defines and determines what is inappropriate content on a case-by-case basis. Our definitions are not limited to this list. If the Chair suspends posting rights or deletes a comment or link, he will say so and explain why. When determining the duration of the suspension, the Chair is encouraged to take into account the overall nature of the postings by an individual and whether particular postings are an aberration or typical. The responsabilities of our Secretariat are: * The Secretariat will have administrative and informative functions. * It will be responsible for maintaining a working communications system and for ensuring the information flux about the issues under discussion between the NARALO participants. * The person(s) fulfilling the function of Secretariat to the NARALO shall be ineligible to simultaneously serve as the Chair of the General Assembly. * The role of the Secretariat could be exercised by a person or an organization, as long as they fulfill the language requirements. _________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com <http://www.lucfaubert.com/> www.LucFaubert.com/blog www.isoc.qc.ca <http://www.isoc.qc.ca/> www.ccig.ca <http://www.ccig.ca/> www.uqbm.qc.ca <http://www.uqbm.qc.ca/> www.maillons.qc.ca <http://www.maillons.qc.ca/>
Hello Luc, Is this reasonable? Two days notice for an election nomination cycle with no real outreach to the community of individuals that constitute the real North American at-large community? Further, I recall that the GNSO took almost a full year to properly select a Secretariat because they wanted to get the job done properly. Does everything have to be done in a hellbent rush just to meet an arbitrary schedule? Sorry, but I think that the course of action proposed is irresponsible, unfair and unduly hasty. --- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hello all,
[I am cross-posting because not all voting delegates subscribed to NA-ALS are subscribed to NA-DISCUSS.]
In the event that our Operating Principles are adopted (the voting period ends today), we are to select our Chair and Secretariat by this Friday.
As per our OP, the Chair will be a person; the Secretariat may be a person or an organization. No other restrictions apply, so they do not have to be from a certified ALS.
You are invited to either self-nominate or propose others before this Thursday 23:59 PST. If our OPs are adopted today, we will vote for our Chair and Secretariat on Friday. The persons/organization with the most votes for each seat will win.
The responsabilities of our Chair are (lifted from our OP):
* The Chair shall act as moderator and facilitator of the work of the NARALO. * The Chair shall be empowered to issue Calls for Statements of Interest for service on the ALAC and to sign and receive any official correspondence to and from ICANN or the At-Large Structures. * The Chair and Secretariat shall be ineligible to serve on the ALAC or ICANN's Nominating Committee in any year in which they serve for NARALO. * In the event that the Chair determines that rough consensus does not exist for the selection of one or more candidates for ALAC seats, the General Assembly will vote. In the event of a tie, the Chair will cast an extra vote. * Rough consensus, as determined by the Chair, will generally be used within the NARALO to manage its current affairs (e.g. producing recommendations to ICANN). * The NARALO Chair is empowered to suspend or restrict a person's posting rights when the content that person has posted is inappropriate and represents a pattern of abuse. The Chair defines and determines what is inappropriate content on a case-by-case basis. Our definitions are not limited to this list. If the Chair suspends posting rights or deletes a comment or link, he will say so and explain why. When determining the duration of the suspension, the Chair is encouraged to take into account the overall nature of the postings by an individual and whether particular postings are an aberration or typical.
The responsabilities of our Secretariat are:
* The Secretariat will have administrative and informative functions. * It will be responsible for maintaining a working communications system and for ensuring the information flux about the issues under discussion between the NARALO participants. * The person(s) fulfilling the function of Secretariat to the NARALO shall be ineligible to simultaneously serve as the Chair of the General Assembly. * The role of the Secretariat could be exercised by a person or an organization, as long as they fulfill the language requirements.
_________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com <http://www.lucfaubert.com/> www.LucFaubert.com/blog www.isoc.qc.ca <http://www.isoc.qc.ca/> www.ccig.ca <http://www.ccig.ca/> www.uqbm.qc.ca <http://www.uqbm.qc.ca/> www.maillons.qc.ca <http://www.maillons.qc.ca/>
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Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
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Hi Danny, The first drafts for our OP and MOU have been up on the wiki since December 2006, with most of the critical revisions completed by the end of January (see the histories on both pages at: http://www.icannwiki.org/index.php?title=NARALO_Operating_Principles_%28 Draft%29&action=history and http://www.icannwiki.org/index.php?title=Memorandum_of_Understanding_bet ween_NARALO_and_ICANN_%28Draft%29&action=history . Everybody is free to join NA-DISCUSS and participate. I have 694 posts on NA-DISCUSS since 2006.11.28 in my archives, so some people are participating. The revised schedule has been up since 04.16 and I think that apart from you, John Levine, Wendy Seltzer and Jean Armour Polly (I may be missing someone; if it's the case, please add to the list), none of the 33 subscribers to the list have expressed any reserves about the schedule and many have explicitly supported it. This qualifies as rough consensus to me, and although I cannot speak for our interim Chair, he seems to think along the same line. The last months have seen more activity in the North American At-Large community than in the last few years. We need to do more outreach, as you say, and I am confident that we will continue to do so. More ALSes are coming on board than ever before. If as you say we should do more outreach, any effort you will contribute to bring more unaffiliated users and/or ALSs in the loop will be very much appreciated. As for postponing formation of NARALO, we could of course postpone, but until when? What would be your criteria for determining that we have done enough outreach, that we have enough ALSes and unaffiliated users on board? When will Danny Younger post to this list saying: "I think we have worthwhile representation for the North American At-Large community."? I prefer to go ahead with what we have now and continue to gather more participants along the way, unless rough consensus develops in the community to the effect that we should not, _________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com www.LucFaubert.com/blog www.isoc.qc.ca www.ccig.ca www.uqbm.qc.ca www.maillons.qc.ca
-----Original Message----- From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger@yahoo.com] Sent: 1 mai 2007 12:50 To: Luc Faubert; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: All Accredited At Large Structures (ALS) in the North AmericanRegion Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Selection of our Chair and Secretariat
Hello Luc,
Is this reasonable? Two days notice for an election nomination cycle with no real outreach to the community of individuals that constitute the real North American at-large community?
Further, I recall that the GNSO took almost a full year to properly select a Secretariat because they wanted to get the job done properly.
Does everything have to be done in a hellbent rush just to meet an arbitrary schedule? Sorry, but I think that the course of action proposed is irresponsible, unfair and unduly hasty.
--- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hello all,
[I am cross-posting because not all voting delegates subscribed to NA-ALS are subscribed to NA-DISCUSS.]
In the event that our Operating Principles are adopted (the voting period ends today), we are to select our Chair and Secretariat by this Friday.
As per our OP, the Chair will be a person; the Secretariat may be a person or an organization. No other restrictions apply, so they do not have to be from a certified ALS.
You are invited to either self-nominate or propose others before this Thursday 23:59 PST. If our OPs are adopted today, we will vote for our Chair and Secretariat on Friday. The persons/organization with the most votes for each seat will win.
The responsabilities of our Chair are (lifted from our OP):
* The Chair shall act as moderator and facilitator of the work of the NARALO. * The Chair shall be empowered to issue Calls for Statements of Interest for service on the ALAC and to sign and receive any official correspondence to and from ICANN or the At-Large Structures. * The Chair and Secretariat shall be ineligible to serve on the ALAC or ICANN's Nominating Committee in any year in which they serve for NARALO. * In the event that the Chair determines that rough consensus does not exist for the selection of one or more candidates for ALAC seats, the General Assembly will vote. In the event of a tie, the Chair will cast an extra vote. * Rough consensus, as determined by the Chair, will generally be used within the NARALO to manage its current affairs (e.g. producing recommendations to ICANN). * The NARALO Chair is empowered to suspend or restrict a person's posting rights when the content that person has posted is inappropriate and represents a pattern of abuse. The Chair defines and determines what is inappropriate content on a case-by-case basis. Our definitions are not limited to this list. If the Chair suspends posting rights or deletes a comment or link, he will say so and explain why. When determining the duration of the suspension, the Chair is encouraged to take into account the overall nature of the postings by an individual and whether particular postings are an aberration or typical.
The responsabilities of our Secretariat are:
* The Secretariat will have administrative and informative functions. * It will be responsible for maintaining a working communications system and for ensuring the information flux about the issues under discussion between the NARALO participants. * The person(s) fulfilling the function of Secretariat to the NARALO shall be ineligible to simultaneously serve as the Chair of the General Assembly. * The role of the Secretariat could be exercised by a person or an organization, as long as they fulfill the language requirements.
_________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com <http://www.lucfaubert.com/> www.LucFaubert.com/blog www.isoc.qc.ca <http://www.isoc.qc.ca/> www.ccig.ca <http://www.ccig.ca/> www.uqbm.qc.ca <http://www.uqbm.qc.ca/> www.maillons.qc.ca <http://www.maillons.qc.ca/>
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Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
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The last months have seen more activity in the North American At-Large community than in the last few years. We need to do more outreach, as you say, and I am confident that we will continue to do so. More ALSes are coming on board than ever before. If as you say we should do more outreach, any effort you will contribute to bring more unaffiliated users and/or ALSs in the loop will be very much appreciated.
As liaison for part of North America I would be happy to participate/ assist in outreach efforts with regard to NA RALO. With regard to the shape and role of the Liaison for this region, in particular as to whether and how it extends to the USA, The best way to shape that would be to comment on ICANN's strategic planning process and/or make a specific request to the board once the RALO is formed. For those within Canada my job is to be responsive and speak on behalf of your work in forums in Canada. I don't always know what is happening where so do let me know if there is a jamboree in your area!
Hi Luc, Sorry, but I can't in good conscience support an election process that allows a scant two days for nominations prior to a vote. Do you wish me to raise the issue with the ICANN Ombudsman? I would be willing to accept his determination of what constitutes a fair election process... --- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hi Danny,
The first drafts for our OP and MOU have been up on the wiki since December 2006, with most of the critical revisions completed by the end of January (see the histories on both pages at:
http://www.icannwiki.org/index.php?title=NARALO_Operating_Principles_%28
Draft%29&action=history and
http://www.icannwiki.org/index.php?title=Memorandum_of_Understanding_bet
ween_NARALO_and_ICANN_%28Draft%29&action=history .
Everybody is free to join NA-DISCUSS and participate. I have 694 posts on NA-DISCUSS since 2006.11.28 in my archives, so some people are participating. The revised schedule has been up since 04.16 and I think that apart from you, John Levine, Wendy Seltzer and Jean Armour Polly (I may be missing someone; if it's the case, please add to the list), none of the 33 subscribers to the list have expressed any reserves about the schedule and many have explicitly supported it. This qualifies as rough consensus to me, and although I cannot speak for our interim Chair, he seems to think along the same line.
The last months have seen more activity in the North American At-Large community than in the last few years. We need to do more outreach, as you say, and I am confident that we will continue to do so. More ALSes are coming on board than ever before. If as you say we should do more outreach, any effort you will contribute to bring more unaffiliated users and/or ALSs in the loop will be very much appreciated.
As for postponing formation of NARALO, we could of course postpone, but until when? What would be your criteria for determining that we have done enough outreach, that we have enough ALSes and unaffiliated users on board? When will Danny Younger post to this list saying: "I think we have worthwhile representation for the North American At-Large community."?
I prefer to go ahead with what we have now and continue to gather more participants along the way, unless rough consensus develops in the community to the effect that we should not,
_________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com www.LucFaubert.com/blog www.isoc.qc.ca www.ccig.ca www.uqbm.qc.ca www.maillons.qc.ca
-----Original Message----- From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger@yahoo.com] Sent: 1 mai 2007 12:50 To: Luc Faubert; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: All Accredited At Large Structures (ALS) in the North AmericanRegion Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Selection of our Chair and Secretariat
Hello Luc,
Is this reasonable? Two days notice for an election nomination cycle with no real outreach to the community of individuals that constitute the real North American at-large community?
Further, I recall that the GNSO took almost a full year to properly select a Secretariat because they wanted to get the job done properly.
Does everything have to be done in a hellbent rush just to meet an arbitrary schedule? Sorry, but I think that the course of action proposed is irresponsible, unfair and unduly hasty.
--- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hello all,
[I am cross-posting because not all voting delegates subscribed to NA-ALS are subscribed to NA-DISCUSS.]
In the event that our Operating Principles are adopted (the voting period ends today), we are to select our Chair and Secretariat by this Friday.
As per our OP, the Chair will be a person; the Secretariat may be a person or an organization. No other restrictions apply, so they do not have to be from a certified ALS.
You are invited to either self-nominate or propose others before this Thursday 23:59 PST. If our OPs are adopted today, we will vote for our Chair and Secretariat on Friday. The persons/organization with the most votes for each seat will win.
The responsabilities of our Chair are (lifted from our OP):
* The Chair shall act as moderator and facilitator of the work of the NARALO. * The Chair shall be empowered to issue Calls for Statements of Interest for service on the ALAC and to sign and receive any official correspondence to and from ICANN or the At-Large Structures. * The Chair and Secretariat shall be ineligible to serve on the ALAC or ICANN's Nominating Committee in any year in which they serve for NARALO. * In the event that the Chair determines that rough consensus does not exist for the selection of one or more candidates for ALAC seats, the General Assembly will vote. In the event of a tie, the Chair will cast an extra vote. * Rough consensus, as determined by the Chair, will generally be used within the NARALO to manage its current affairs (e.g. producing recommendations to ICANN). * The NARALO Chair is empowered to suspend or restrict a person's posting rights when the content that person has posted is inappropriate and represents a pattern of abuse. The Chair defines and determines what is inappropriate content on a case-by-case basis. Our definitions are not limited to this list. If the Chair suspends posting rights or deletes a comment or link, he will say so and explain === message truncated ===
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danny: what would, in your opinion , a reasonable time period for a a fair election process ? a week, 15 days, a month, a quarter, a year, a decade, etc? regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 1-May-07, at 3:58 PM, Danny Younger wrote:
Hi Luc,
Sorry, but I can't in good conscience support an election process that allows a scant two days for nominations prior to a vote. Do you wish me to raise the issue with the ICANN Ombudsman? I would be willing to accept his determination of what constitutes a fair election process...
--- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hi Danny,
The first drafts for our OP and MOU have been up on the wiki since December 2006, with most of the critical revisions completed by the end of January (see the histories on both pages at:
http://www.icannwiki.org/index.php? title=NARALO_Operating_Principles_%28
Draft%29&action=history and
http://www.icannwiki.org/index.php? title=Memorandum_of_Understanding_bet
ween_NARALO_and_ICANN_%28Draft%29&action=history .
Everybody is free to join NA-DISCUSS and participate. I have 694 posts on NA-DISCUSS since 2006.11.28 in my archives, so some people are participating. The revised schedule has been up since 04.16 and I think that apart from you, John Levine, Wendy Seltzer and Jean Armour Polly (I may be missing someone; if it's the case, please add to the list), none of the 33 subscribers to the list have expressed any reserves about the schedule and many have explicitly supported it. This qualifies as rough consensus to me, and although I cannot speak for our interim Chair, he seems to think along the same line.
The last months have seen more activity in the North American At-Large community than in the last few years. We need to do more outreach, as you say, and I am confident that we will continue to do so. More ALSes are coming on board than ever before. If as you say we should do more outreach, any effort you will contribute to bring more unaffiliated users and/or ALSs in the loop will be very much appreciated.
As for postponing formation of NARALO, we could of course postpone, but until when? What would be your criteria for determining that we have done enough outreach, that we have enough ALSes and unaffiliated users on board? When will Danny Younger post to this list saying: "I think we have worthwhile representation for the North American At-Large community."?
I prefer to go ahead with what we have now and continue to gather more participants along the way, unless rough consensus develops in the community to the effect that we should not,
_________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com www.LucFaubert.com/blog www.isoc.qc.ca www.ccig.ca www.uqbm.qc.ca www.maillons.qc.ca
-----Original Message----- From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger@yahoo.com] Sent: 1 mai 2007 12:50 To: Luc Faubert; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: All Accredited At Large Structures (ALS) in the North AmericanRegion Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Selection of our Chair and Secretariat
Hello Luc,
Is this reasonable? Two days notice for an election nomination cycle with no real outreach to the community of individuals that constitute the real North American at-large community?
Further, I recall that the GNSO took almost a full year to properly select a Secretariat because they wanted to get the job done properly.
Does everything have to be done in a hellbent rush just to meet an arbitrary schedule? Sorry, but I think that the course of action proposed is irresponsible, unfair and unduly hasty.
--- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hello all,
[I am cross-posting because not all voting delegates subscribed to NA-ALS are subscribed to NA-DISCUSS.]
In the event that our Operating Principles are adopted (the voting period ends today), we are to select our Chair and Secretariat by this Friday.
As per our OP, the Chair will be a person; the Secretariat may be a person or an organization. No other restrictions apply, so they do not have to be from a certified ALS.
You are invited to either self-nominate or propose others before this Thursday 23:59 PST. If our OPs are adopted today, we will vote for our Chair and Secretariat on Friday. The persons/organization with the most votes for each seat will win.
The responsabilities of our Chair are (lifted from our OP):
* The Chair shall act as moderator and facilitator of the work of the NARALO. * The Chair shall be empowered to issue Calls for Statements of Interest for service on the ALAC and to sign and receive any official correspondence to and from ICANN or the At-Large Structures. * The Chair and Secretariat shall be ineligible to serve on the ALAC or ICANN's Nominating Committee in any year in which they serve for NARALO. * In the event that the Chair determines that rough consensus does not exist for the selection of one or more candidates for ALAC seats, the General Assembly will vote. In the event of a tie, the Chair will cast an extra vote. * Rough consensus, as determined by the Chair, will generally be used within the NARALO to manage its current affairs (e.g. producing recommendations to ICANN). * The NARALO Chair is empowered to suspend or restrict a person's posting rights when the content that person has posted is inappropriate and represents a pattern of abuse. The Chair defines and determines what is inappropriate content on a case-by-case basis. Our definitions are not limited to this list. If the Chair suspends posting rights or deletes a comment or link, he will say so and explain === message truncated ===
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Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP
Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
Hello Robert, Some of us remember the original At-Large elections that seated At-Large directors on the ICANN Board. It was an election that had 10,632 "activated" North American individuals participate and it was an election that at least attempted to address the rudiments of a fair election process. The membership application phase was well publicized and lasted 159 days. The determination of the ballot process ran concurrently with the application phase but lasted an additional 39 days more. The voter education and dialogue phase took 30 days more (with the actual voting being held over a ten-day time frame). That was a real election that made a serious effort to engage the real at-large community. What I see here by contrast is a snap election with no attempt whatsoever to engage the rest of the at-large world in North America. I see a process of capture on the part of a miniscule handful of individuals representing no more than a token amount of small organizations... and I see ICANN staff actively pushing to complete the RALO process so that they can report to the US Department of Commerce that they have solved the vexing at-large "problem". In short, I see a farce being played out. The real question is this: do the members on this list respect the North American at-large community sufficiently to handle an election in a fair and straightforward manner with proper outreach and education, or are list members comfortable perpetrating a 2-day snap election sham just to meet an arbitrarily imposed schedule for a photo op in Puerto Rico? best regards, Danny --- "Mr. Robert Guerra" <lists@privaterra.info> wrote:
danny:
what would, in your opinion , a reasonable time period for a a fair election process ? a week, 15 days, a month, a quarter, a year, a decade, etc?
regards,
Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377
On 1-May-07, at 3:58 PM, Danny Younger wrote:
Hi Luc,
Sorry, but I can't in good conscience support an election process that allows a scant two days for nominations prior to a vote. Do you wish me to raise the issue with the ICANN Ombudsman? I would be willing to accept his determination of what constitutes a fair election process...
--- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hi Danny,
The first drafts for our OP and MOU have been up on the wiki since December 2006, with most of the critical revisions completed by the end of January (see the histories on both pages at:
http://www.icannwiki.org/index.php? title=NARALO_Operating_Principles_%28
Draft%29&action=history and
http://www.icannwiki.org/index.php? title=Memorandum_of_Understanding_bet
ween_NARALO_and_ICANN_%28Draft%29&action=history .
Everybody is free to join NA-DISCUSS and participate. I have 694 posts on NA-DISCUSS since 2006.11.28 in my archives, so some people are participating. The revised schedule has been up since 04.16 and I think that apart from you, John Levine, Wendy Seltzer and Jean Armour Polly (I may be missing someone; if it's the case, please add to the list), none of the 33 subscribers to the list have expressed any reserves about the schedule and many have explicitly supported it. This qualifies as rough consensus to me, and although I cannot speak for our interim Chair, he seems to think along the same line.
The last months have seen more activity in the North American At-Large community than in the last few years. We need to do more outreach, as you say, and I am confident that we will continue to do so. More ALSes are coming on board than ever before. If as you say we should do more outreach, any effort you will contribute to bring more unaffiliated users and/or ALSs in the loop will be very much appreciated.
As for postponing formation of NARALO, we could of course postpone, but until when? What would be your criteria for determining that we have done enough outreach, that we have enough ALSes and unaffiliated users on board? When will Danny Younger post to this list saying: "I think we have worthwhile representation for the North American At-Large community."?
I prefer to go ahead with what we have now and continue to gather more participants along the way, unless rough consensus develops in the community to the effect that we should not,
_________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com www.LucFaubert.com/blog www.isoc.qc.ca www.ccig.ca www.uqbm.qc.ca www.maillons.qc.ca
-----Original Message----- From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger@yahoo.com] Sent: 1 mai 2007 12:50 To: Luc Faubert; na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: All Accredited At Large Structures (ALS) in the North AmericanRegion Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Selection of our Chair and Secretariat
Hello Luc,
Is this reasonable? Two days notice for an election nomination cycle with no real outreach to the community of individuals that constitute the real North American at-large community?
Further, I recall that the GNSO took almost a full year to properly select a Secretariat because they wanted to get the job done properly.
Does everything have to be done in a hellbent rush just to meet an arbitrary schedule? Sorry, but I think that the course of action proposed is irresponsible, unfair and unduly hasty.
--- Luc Faubert <LFaubert@conceptum.ca> wrote:
Hello all,
[I am cross-posting because not all voting delegates subscribed to NA-ALS are subscribed to NA-DISCUSS.]
In the event that our Operating Principles are adopted (the voting period ends today), we are to select our Chair and Secretariat by this Friday.
As per our OP, the Chair will be a person; the Secretariat may be a person or an organization. No other restrictions apply, so they do not have to be from a certified ALS.
You are invited to either self-nominate or propose others
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