Hi Lili, thank you for your comments. 1) The question of reliability levels of data behind a privacy shield is very hard to measure, as no mechanism exists to properly conduct a study without violating the terms of the service. Possibly, an indication of reliability levels could be obtained from UDRP providers as they regularly deal with cases where the privacy service removes itself on the occurrence of a complaint, and therefore might have data on the reliability of the revealed data, however even then this sample would be skewed as most domains using whois privacy services are unlikely to be targets in a UDRP. 2) We assume that will be the case as touching all those existing customers is a near impossible task. 3) I reviewed your document, but I disagree with the assumptions therein. There was no indication or evidence of illegal use that I could determine. Porn and gambling, while distasteful are not necessarily illegal. So someone used a privacy service and registered a bunch of domains to serve such content to China. So what? Also, the fact that the redirect changed after a short while may point to the domains being parked with the incoming traffic being sold to the highest bidder, who at the time may have been a provider of such services. I can see no abuse of a privacy service here. Volker Am 03.06.2018 um 05:21 schrieb SUN Lili:
Dear Privacy & Proxy subgroup members,
I went through the draft report of this subgroup on wiki page (https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=71604717) and step in with my concerns:
1.To the Data Accuracy subgroup, the Whois accuracy of domain names that utilize Privacy and Proxy Services is invisible. And Volker also mentioned that this will be dealt with in the Privacy & Proxy subgroup. As such, I strongly support Susan’s comments on “6 Conducting periodic due diligence checks on customer contact information” and “8 Providing clear and unambiguous guidance on the rights and responsibilities of registered name holders, and how those should be managed in the privacy/proxy environment.” There is no reason for a customer who chose P/P service thus been protected from responsibilities.
2.There is no indication about the legacy domain names that utilize P/P Services before the provider been accredited. Will it be a similar situation as Grandfathered domains?
3.Like the example I gave during the 2^nd F2F meeting, if there is not enough regulation and overseeing in place, P/P service is very likely to be abused. To be clear, I elaborated the example in a word document (see attached). Do we really need this kind of fake prosperity of domain industry?
A response from this subgroup is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Lili
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