Hi, Reference the todays' caucus meeting at ietf. I think we can live with the limitation of no PDF in cloud group-repository, and start using zotero actively. I don't believe any tool will provide such a feature due to copyright issues. - I think we should now start adding more documents to the repository, including RSSAC related research papers and RFC documents? - I would prefer organize research documents into different sub collections: >> root-servers >> general-dns >> dnssec >> operational-monitoring >> new-features >> denial-of-service >> security-threats @Andrew McConachie <andrew.mcconachie@icann.org>: can you please add Baojun to the list of admins. Thanks Regards Hafiz Farooq --- This message has been scanned via Symantec MessageLabs & SpamDefense Engine On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 1:18 PM Andrew McConachie < andrew.mcconachie@icann.org> wrote:
<https://www.zotero.org/groups/4859802/rssac_caucus/library>
I made an account and added the first section of Baojun’s Google doc.
On my first try I used a 40 character password which it permitted and then it basically broke the account. I then created another account with only a 16 character long password and it worked. So beware of that limitation.
I created an online group called RSSAC_Caucus and a collection in it called rss_research. I am the Owner of this group and I can appoint Admins who can then gain write access to the collections. Read permissions are to set to Public.
I used the Firefox Zotero plugin to add the publications. It scrapes the metadata from the hosting website (ACM/IEEE, etc) and then create the entry to my local client, then my client syncs with the cloud service.
One limitation is there is no way to store the actual PDF online, likely for copyright reasons. But if you download the client you can add the PDF in your client and then have full text search through the client.
I’m curious what people think about this approach. Please play around with it and share your opinion.
Thanks, Andrew
On 17 Nov 2022, at 08:43, Brett Carr <brett@pwei.uk> wrote:
I haven’t used this before but a cursory glance seems to indicate it looks good. If there is some budget for the required storage then it would seem sensible to at least put a small amount of documents into it and let everyone have some time with it as a POC.
Brett
On 16 Nov 2022, at 17:51, Andrew McConachie <andrew.mcconachie@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Baojun and Caucus members,
Thanks very much for creating this list. I’m happy to see so much interest in this topic on the list.
My main concern continues to be maintenance of the list long term. I’ve read the suggestions on the list and I would like to throw one more into the mix. I believe using a dedicated application for managing large collections of academic publications would be best.
Are people familiar with Zotero? <https://www.zotero.org/ [zotero.org] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.zotero.org/__;!!PtGJab4!4h4LgbCN4Md3...>
The client is open source and the non-profit behind it makes money selling cloud storage for users of the client.
I’ve used it for creating bibliographies and for organizing large numbers of academic articles in the past. What I have not used it for is for sharing those articles with others. I’ve only used the open source client without purchasing cloud storage. I’ll do some more investigation into how the cloud offering works.
We still need to work out a number of the details around this, such as who has write access to the list of publications, how read access should be managed, and what criteria to use for inclusion. I think we’re still in the early discuss phase, and it’s good to see so much discussion on the list.
Thanks, Andrew
On 9 Nov 2022, at 12:01, Baojun Liu <bjliu0@gmail.com> wrote:
It is my great pleasure to contribute to the RSSAC community. And, if others have other suggestions, please let me know.
Baojun. Tsinghua University.
Wes Hardaker <hardaker@isi.edu> 于2022年11月9日周三 16:58写道：
For now, to keep the project moving forward, I suggest to take following actions to improve the proposed document. First, during the recent research paper collection process (maybe 2 weeks), I encourage the Caucus members to write down as many relevant research papers as possible. And I will check the added papers and categories manually. In addition, I will also provide a machine-readable format (most likely a latex bibliography file) for each research paper in the document. And in the next step, depending on the number of research papers we collect, we can discuss how to convert it, a database or a dynamic web page.
I think your approach sounds good; thank you Baojun for your work. -- Wes Hardaker USC/ISI
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