Updated summary document - for comments
Dear Colleagues, Thanks again for the very constructive call yesterday. As discussed, you will find attached an updated document for your review and comments. Changes include : - The previous 4th column option has been replaced with the Denmark proposal, as amended during our call - An additional consideration taken into account is whether the defined rules apply to all ACs In addition to the call for edits on the Denmark proposal which was circulated a few hours ago by Steve, please provide your comments on the table on section 4, which attemps to map how each proposal may address differently the various requirements and considerations. We need to make sure we share the same perspective on this to avoid any misunderstanding. In order to provide an updated version in time for our Wednesday call (precise time and invitation will be circulated shortly) I would appreciate your feedback by 17 nov 9 UTC (24 hours from now). Best, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 <mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> mathieu.weill@afnic.fr Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
Dear Mathieu and all Thanks for this constructive spirit. Please find attached your updated document with some additional comments from my side. Regards Jorge Von: s18-bounces@icann.org [mailto:s18-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Mathieu Weill Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2015 09:21 An: s18@icann.org Betreff: [S18] Updated summary document - for comments Dear Colleagues, Thanks again for the very constructive call yesterday. As discussed, you will find attached an updated document for your review and comments. Changes include : - The previous 4th column option has been replaced with the Denmark proposal, as amended during our call - An additional consideration taken into account is whether the defined rules apply to all ACs In addition to the call for edits on the Denmark proposal which was circulated a few hours ago by Steve, please provide your comments on the table on section 4, which attemps to map how each proposal may address differently the various requirements and considerations. We need to make sure we share the same perspective on this to avoid any misunderstanding. In order to provide an updated version in time for our Wednesday call (precise time and invitation will be circulated shortly) I would appreciate your feedback by 17 nov 9 UTC (24 hours from now). Best, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
Dear Mathieu, Thank you for the updated document. While Brazil is still evaluating the changes suggested by Denmark, it is important to stress that according to the Dublin Communiqué, the GAC has explicitly expressed the importance of having (i) the need for consensus advice and (ii) the autonomy of each AC to determine its definition of consensus applied to all ACs. I don't see this reflected in the 4th column of Section 2 of the new document. Kind regards, Secretário Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Divisão da Sociedade da Informação (DI) Ministério das Relações Exteriores - Brasil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 Secretary Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva Division of Information Society (DI) Ministry of External Relations - Brazil T: + 55 61 2030-6609 -----Mensagem original----- De: s18-bounces@icann.org [mailto:s18-bounces@icann.org] Em nome de Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch Enviada em: terça-feira, 17 de novembro de 2015 07:17 Para: mathieu.weill@afnic.fr; s18@icann.org Assunto: Re: [S18] Updated summary document - for comments Dear Mathieu and all Thanks for this constructive spirit. Please find attached your updated document with some additional comments from my side. Regards Jorge Von: s18-bounces@icann.org<mailto:s18-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:s18-bounces@icann.org] Im Auftrag von Mathieu Weill Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2015 09:21 An: s18@icann.org<mailto:s18@icann.org> Betreff: [S18] Updated summary document - for comments Dear Colleagues, Thanks again for the very constructive call yesterday. As discussed, you will find attached an updated document for your review and comments. Changes include : - The previous 4th column option has been replaced with the Denmark proposal, as amended during our call - An additional consideration taken into account is whether the defined rules apply to all ACs In addition to the call for edits on the Denmark proposal which was circulated a few hours ago by Steve, please provide your comments on the table on section 4, which attemps to map how each proposal may address differently the various requirements and considerations. We need to make sure we share the same perspective on this to avoid any misunderstanding. In order to provide an updated version in time for our Wednesday call (precise time and invitation will be circulated shortly) I would appreciate your feedback by 17 nov 9 UTC (24 hours from now). Best, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
Dear Mathieu, colleagues, I have inserted a few comments into the chart. Best, Julia Fra: s18-bounces@icann.org [mailto:s18-bounces@icann.org] På vegne af Mathieu Weill Sendt: 17. november 2015 09:21 Til: s18@icann.org Emne: [S18] Updated summary document - for comments Dear Colleagues, Thanks again for the very constructive call yesterday. As discussed, you will find attached an updated document for your review and comments. Changes include : - The previous 4th column option has been replaced with the Denmark proposal, as amended during our call - An additional consideration taken into account is whether the defined rules apply to all ACs In addition to the call for edits on the Denmark proposal which was circulated a few hours ago by Steve, please provide your comments on the table on section 4, which attemps to map how each proposal may address differently the various requirements and considerations. We need to make sure we share the same perspective on this to avoid any misunderstanding. In order to provide an updated version in time for our Wednesday call (precise time and invitation will be circulated shortly) I would appreciate your feedback by 17 nov 9 UTC (24 hours from now). Best, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
Mathieu, This slide is incorrect where it states [no edits to Section 1 are proposed]. Several people specifically noted that the FN was objectionable and/or unnecessary. Moreover, this addition makes no sense: For purposes of this section, GAC “consensus” does not include reaching a decision based on majority voting whereby disagreements with or objections by a minority of GAC representatives may be overridden. It is also understood that “consensus” does not necessarily mean “unanimity” or a broad measure of agreement that would allow a GAC member or a very small minority of GAC members to block the determination of consensus. If consensus does not mean majority voting, unanimity (lack of objection), or even overwhelming majority (handful of objections) then what pray tell does it mean? It is utterly useless as a frame of reference. I suggest just leaving in the original text without footnote or qualification: “In this context, each Advisory Committee has the right to determine its particular definition of consensus.” In my opinion, we are getting side tracked. As I said in response to Pedro’s email, we should focus solely on how the Board should treat the advice it receives, not about how the ACs should define or arrive at their decisions. The GAC can define consensus however it wants, but the Board should only have to try in good faith to reach a compromise if that advice is supported by a full consensus, i.e. unanimity. Brett ________________________________ Brett Schaefer Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory Affairs Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy The Heritage Foundation 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE Washington, DC 20002 202-608-6097 heritage.org<http://heritage.org/> From: s18-bounces@icann.org [mailto:s18-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu Weill Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 3:21 AM To: s18@icann.org Subject: [S18] Updated summary document - for comments Dear Colleagues, Thanks again for the very constructive call yesterday. As discussed, you will find attached an updated document for your review and comments. Changes include : - The previous 4th column option has been replaced with the Denmark proposal, as amended during our call - An additional consideration taken into account is whether the defined rules apply to all ACs In addition to the call for edits on the Denmark proposal which was circulated a few hours ago by Steve, please provide your comments on the table on section 4, which attemps to map how each proposal may address differently the various requirements and considerations. We need to make sure we share the same perspective on this to avoid any misunderstanding. In order to provide an updated version in time for our Wednesday call (precise time and invitation will be circulated shortly) I would appreciate your feedback by 17 nov 9 UTC (24 hours from now). Best, -- ***************************** Mathieu WEILL AFNIC - directeur général Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06 mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> Twitter : @mathieuweill *****************************
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Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch -
Julia Katja Wolman -
Mathieu Weill -
Pedro Ivo Ferraz da Silva -
Schaefer, Brett