Dear Nicolas, I'm not familiar with using EPP out of domain registration scope. If it is more or less common EPP, the extension will fit these purposes too. BTW, for domains, we have RDAP supporting various internationalized data. Not sure what do we have for access to regional and subregional registries data. Whois will not work for EAI. On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 1:36 PM Nicolas Fiumarelli <nicocamarao@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, dears, I would like to clarify that EPP is not only in rather common use in both CC TLDs and gTLDs but it is also used for reverse delegations of the DNS, that is, the sub-allocation and delegation of IP address blocks, this is the Regional Registries (LACNIC for example) and sub-regional internet registries (for example NIC.br) for IP addresses. Many times in the domain world it is common to forget this very important leg of the DNS, the in-addr.arpa, and the ip6.arpa registries. In this way, I think it would be a good opportunity to also update to allow the use of EAI in the contacts of blocks and organizations of the regional registries in this regard.
We are in touch, Best regards, Nicolas.
El vie., 9 oct. 2020 a las 6:16, Dmitry Belyavsky (<beldmit@gmail.com>) escribió:
Maxim,
Many thanks! The draft is desired to fix the current state of the EPP protocol which is in rather common use in both CC TLDs and gTLDs.
IMHO, if the EPP protocol is redesigned to accept these issues and adopted, these changes are to become a part of the core protocol - as for now EPP accepts local and internationalized (ASCII only :) ) post addresses.
I totally agree that it's a good idea to make these changes simultaneously.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 11:35 AM Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a work in progress about translation and transliteration
https://gnso.icann.org/en/en/group-activities/active/transliteration-contact
(it hangs in the air due to other policy work in GNSO) , But with high probability a contact, may be other elements also are to have two fields (one transliterated using not yet known rules into English, another - original language), but since the work is not finished, I am not sure about the final recommendations , also, there is no info yet about any additional fields or what to do if the contact is only in English.
To avoid a new standard applicable only to CCtlds(who are free to do what they find fit in the namespace) and following uniformity ideas it might a good idea to track the developments in that GNSO policy field (Future PDP for IDNs too, it is to be initiated soon and I would recommend UA to send at least one member to track it and to participate in it).
Maxim Alzoba
On 9 Oct 2020, 10:53, at 10:53, Dmitry Belyavsky <beldmit@gmail.com> wrote:
In this very first draft, I hoped it will be possible just to update RFC 5733 and allow EAI in the contact object.
The first responses show that the early draft should be reworked and the EPP extension specification should be used instead. I'll let you know when the specification is ready.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 10:48 AM Mark Datysgeld <mark@governanceprimer.com> wrote:
That's very interesting! Can you give us a broad overview of the specification and how it works?
Regards, On 10/07/2020 10:31, Dmitry Belyavsky wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I've just submitted a specification allowing usage of EAI in the EPP protocol to the IETF regext working group.
If there is any interest in this work, it's worth subscribing the regext mailing list (https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext) and explicitly supporting the work on the document.
Many thanks!
-- SY, Dmitry Belyavsky
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