Ws2-cep

Download

ws2-cep@icann.org

November 2016

4 participants
2 discussions

Notes & Chat | CCWG Accountability WS2 - REVIEWING THE CEP | 23NOV16
by MSSI Secretariat Nov. 23, 2016

Nov. 23, 2016

Hello all, The notes & the chat for CCWG Accountability WS2 Reviewing the CEP from 23 November 2016 @ 13:00 UTC are available below. Thank you. Kindest Regards, Yvette Guigneaux Multi-Stakeholder & Strategic Initiative Assistant ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 12025 Waterfront Drive, Playa Vista, CA 90094 yvette.guigneaux(a)icann.org<mailto:yvette.guigneaux@icann.org> | www.icann.org[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.icann.org&d=DQMFAw&…> ________________________________ Notes: I. Introduction, SOI, roll call Ed Morris: No SOI updates. Review of agenda. II. Report from Hyderabad India: Meeting with Becky Burr Ed Morris: Confirmed with BB that the CEP that there remains a financial incentive. Also instead of starting from scratch we should look at mediation providers for their rules. III. Bylaws Ana Lupe:(presentation of slides) Ed Morris: Mediator vs CEP and can a mediator be present at the first meeting. Chris Disspain: It is possible where ICANN would only be a facilitator. (.wine example). Some form of termination must be present so it is not used as a delaying tactic. IV. CEP Rules Farzaneh Badii: usually in arbitration there is a requirement that parties negotiate prior to starting arbitration. So, do we want a mediation process, or negotiation or conciliation. We need to know what is type of conflicts we are looking to resolve. Ed Morris: SE mentioned the value of old CEP was the informal nature. Under the new Bylaws we seem to possibly moving towards mediation. Farzaneh Badii: We have to understand if we want a third party present officially. Also have to consider confidentiality requirements - have to weigh possibility of resolving vs the need for other parties to know in some cases. Ana Loup: worth considering when we engage with parties who have been involved in CEP at ICANN. Chris Disspain: Have you considered if we need CEP at all if there is a potential for mediation. Ed Morris: I have considered in the past. Chris Disspain: We need a process to be a precursor to IRP - it could simply a mediation process for which there are a lot of existing rules and providers for such services. Ed Morris: This is appealing especially given the current CEP is a hybrid which is sometimes difficult to frame and understand. Ana Loup: If CEP was reframed as a conventional mediation it might get more participation. Chris Disspain: If there is a mediation step to IRP is there a need for CEP also - or we can merge mediation with CEP. Alan Greenberg: SOunds like worth at least a discussion. V. How to engage with community members with CEP experience? A discussion / proposed solutions (Not addressed on call). VI. Way forward Ed Morris: we have a problem finding people who have been through CEP. VII. AOB Ed Morris: will reach out to David McAuley on the topic of CEP vs Mediation as a pre IRP and then present some questions to the plenary next week. ________________________________ Chat: Yvette Guigneaux: Welcome all to the WS2 - Reviewing the CEP Subgroup Meeting #2 | Wednesday, 23 November @ 13:00 UTC! Olevie: Good morning from Lome, Togo Yvette Guigneaux: Good morning Olevie Edward Morris: Hello everybody! Anna Loup: Hello! Farzaneh Badii: Hi there. I am listening with one ear here, so apologies in advance if I miss something Farzaneh Badii: oops that came out as odd! I meant I had to combine attending this meeting with other things : ) Bernard Turcotte Staff Support: hello all Chris Disspain: greetings Chris Disspain: I am both on the phone and adobe but will drop off from adobe in 20 minutes or so Farzaneh Badii: if it was a confidential process how can people tell us about their experience? Farzaneh Badii: we have to clarify that Yvette Guigneaux: they do now Ed Yvette Guigneaux: Scrolling available for all Edward Morris: Thanks Yvette Sam Lanfranco, NPOC/csih: Greeting to all Farzaneh Badii: I like the idea of ditching CEP. Anna Loup: agreed Sam Lanfranco, NPOC/csih: From what little I understand at this point, either mediation, or a CEP as a mediation step before an IRP would be both more efficient and more effective. Chris Disspain: Droping from adobe but still on phone Sam Lanfranco, NPOC/csih: Question: Would mediation be manditory or optional prior to IRP? Farzaneh Badii: so we will have a Chinese Med/Arb : ) Alan Greenberg: SOunds like worth at least a discussion. avri doria: i have sent both questions off to the IOT list. Farzaneh Badii: but do they want to share? Farzaneh Badii: next week? Farzaneh Badii: I wont be there Farzaneh Badii: but it's ok. : ) Farzaneh Badii: no questions. thank you avri doria: i guess i should not have sent a note already. oh well. will pull back to background. Sam Lanfranco, NPOC/csih: okay Anna Loup: thanks! Edward Morris: Thanks everyone

1 0

CEP MEETING WEDNESDAY AT 13:00 UTC
by Edward Morris Nov. 23, 2016

Nov. 23, 2016

Hello everybody, A reminder that we are scheduled to have a Reviewing the CEP (CCWG WS2) call tomorrow, Wednesday 23 November at 13:00 UTC. You should have received an appointment reminder with the call details. If you have not received one please let myself or staff know as soon as possible. I look forward to seeing as many of you as possible on the call. I anticipate this will be a very short meeting. Its purpose is to let the full group know what myself and those who volunteered to lead initial efforts on the Bylaws and the CEP Rules have done and to chart a way forward for all of us. I’m also hoping a few more of you will be willing to take on a task or two to help us take the next step forward. The more we have involved the less each one of us will need to do. The proposed Agenda: I. Introduction, SOI, roll call II. Report from India: Meeting with Becky Burr III. Bylaws (Anna) IV. CEP Rules (Farzi) V. How to engage with community members with CEP experience? : a discussion / proposed solutions VI. Way forward Community Input CEP Rules Bylaws VII. AOB I also would like to note that the meeting following this one will take place on December 9th at 19:00. My hope and expectation is that we will have made considerable progress by that time. I look forward to hearing and working with everyone on the call. Kind Regards, Edward Morris

3 3