On 16/02/2017 13:20, Corinne Cath wrote:
“While acknowledging the importance of diversity in the accountability mechanisms, members of WS2 have expressed their view that diversity requirement should not prevail over skills or experience requirements.”
to:
We acknowledge the importance of diversity, but would like to stress that diversity requirements should always be paired with the appropriate level of skills and experience.
Corinne's suggested text would place diversity requirements on an equal footing with skills and experience requirements. That doesn't really address the concern in the previous text - in fact it nullifies it - while at the same time it also doesn't make the point Mathieu was raising that promoting diversity creates a deeper pool from which to draw skills and experience. Perhaps you would be willing to consider my alternative suggestion, "Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to broaden the range of skills and experience available, but rigid application of diversity requirements for selection could in some cases have the opposite effect, and this should be avoided." which address both concerns. Best, Malcolm.
Best,
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Fiona Asonga <fasonga@kixp.or.ke <mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke>> wrote:
Dear Mathieu
Thanks for the feedback. I agree that the increased diversity can actually expand the diversity of skills within ICANN but the pair of the conversation we haven't yet considered is the kind of skills that would constitutes skills diversity. Would it be based purely on work experience or academic qualifications or a combination of both? Both you and Lousewies raise important discussion points and look forwards to further discussions.
Kind regards
Fiona Asonga
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: *"Mathieu Weill" <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>> *To: *"Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak@gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com>>, "Lousewies Vanderlaan" <lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org <mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org>> *Cc: *ws2-diversity@icann.org <mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:19:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report
Dear Colleagues,
I apologize for not being able to make many of the calls, but congratulate the group on the progress on the document.
I did post a comment on the Gdoc, about the following sentence :
“While acknowledging the importance of diversity in the accountability mechanisms, members of WS2 have expressed their view that diversity requirement should not prevail over skills or experience requirements.”
Lousewies was supporting the formulation, and I understand where she’s coming from on that, but I personally have an issue with it : it implies that there is a mutually exclusive choice to be made between skills on the one side, diversity on the other. I do not share this view. I contend that increased diversity would actually expand the diversity of skills within ICANN.
What do other group members think about it ?
Whatever the outcome of this discussion, it would be useful to detail exactly what kind of skills we want to look at in terms of skills diversity. Is it legal / technical / market ? Others ?
Best
Mathieu
*De :*ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org <mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org <mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org>] *De la part de* Rafik Dammak *Envoyé :* mardi 14 février 2017 01:03 *À :* Lousewies Vanderlaan *Cc :* ws2-diversity@icann.org <mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org> *Objet :* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report
Dear Lousewies,
Thanks for the comments!
I moved the document to this google doc so everyone can comment https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJt... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJt...> , the previous document was in word format . it is in suggestion mode, so you can propose edits and changes.
I encourage all members of the subgroup to go through the document and add their suggestions. we will add other parts in coming days.
Best,
Rafik
2017-02-12 5:33 GMT+09:00 Lousewies Vanderlaan <lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org <mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org>>:
Dear all, Congratulations on a strong first draft. As you know, as board liaison I have been mostly observing, but I have taken the liberty to make some small comments in the document in a personal capacity. Hope its useful. I look forward to seeing many of you in Copenhagen. best, Lousewies
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 17:23, Fiona Asonga <fasonga@kixp.or.ke <mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke>> wrote: > > Hallo All > > Please find on the link below the first draft of the diversity report with consolidated views that have bee shared and discussed so far on diversity. > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharin... <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharin...> > > Since the discussion on the Global Accounts is still ongoing we have considered the input but would like another round of discussion on the same. > > Please feel free to share your feedback and edits to the document. > > Kind regards > > Fiona and Rafik > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Ws2-diversity mailing list > Ws2-diversity@icann.org <mailto:Ws2-diversity@icann.org> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-diversity>
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