I fully support all that Avri just said and hope we can update the text accordingly. Best, On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 06:09 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I agree with Avri's rationale as well. However in order not to have an unending assessment process. I suggest slightly modifying Avri's text to:
Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation is essential to fulfilling the range of skills and experience necessary for ICANN. If an original assessment of candidates is not sufficiently diverse to fulfill the skill, experience and diversity requirements necessary, then efforts need to be redoubled until diversity is achieved *as much as possible*.
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On Feb 17, 2017 1:30 AM, "avri doria" <avri@acm.org> wrote:
hi,
Apologies for missing some meetings lately, I have let myself become overloaded.
On 15-Feb-17 16:26, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
I suggest we keep the existing text, but add the following on the end of it:
"Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to broaden the range of skills and experience available, but rigid application of diversity requirements for selection could in some cases have the opposite effect, and this should be avoided."
I would havea severe problem with this oppositional statement. It ignores the fact that diversity is a component of skill and experience. Diverse experience can only be obtained through cultural diversity - people or organizations that are steeped in one culture, especially a dominant culture, do not generally understand the full scope of a problem and do not bring a full or appropriate set of skills and experience, no matter how clever they may be. Proper solutions cannot be found without diversity
Likewise the skill often needed is cross cultural sensitivity which cannot be achieved without full scope of diversity.
The set {skill, experience, diversity} cannot be satisfied without full consideration of the full set. Yes one needs skill and experience, but needs to obtain it from a diverse set of actors, becue a non diverse set will not have the necessary skills and experience in any case. If by rigid you mean living without it, then I will argue for rigid application of diversity criteria. I would go so far as to say that any selection process that does not satisfy diversity has failed and does not meet the conditions for global accountability.
On 16-Feb-17 16:13, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
"Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to broaden the range of skills and experience available, but rigid application of diversity requirements for selection could in some cases have the opposite effect, and this should be avoided."
I cannot accept this formulation either. There should not be any statement disparaging the absolute necessity for diversity in every and all ICANN processes. the presumption that is unstated is the diversity means a less skilled set of applicnts and I find this to be very problematic.
On 16-Feb-17 16:30, Mathieu Weill wrote:
Thank you for the feedbacks, and for the various suggestions.
Picking up on your proposal Malcolm, how about :
"Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to broaden the range of skills and experience available, but rigid application of diversity requirements for selection could in some cases have the opposite effect, and this unintended consequence *needs to be carefully assessed*." (instead of "avoided").
Even this goes to far and leaves it as acceptable to avoid diversity. Someone can always try to spin, and will, the argument and say, we have good people even if they aren't diverse and we are unable to satisfy diversity. In this case the response should be to try harder, not throw up one's hands and say oh well diversity is too hard, do not be so rigid. ICANN is a global organization that is accountable to a diverse world. An accountablty that cannot be met without real diversity.
For me this meets the requirement of a die in the ditch position.
I would prefer something like:
Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation is essential to fulfilling the range of skills and experience necessary for ICANN. If an original assessment of candidates is not sufficiently diverse to fulfill the skill, experience and diversity requirements necessary, then efforts need to be redoubled until diversity is achieved.
No more shrugging and saying: diversity was hard therefore we picked all men from WEOG. This is a failure for ICANN and _MUST_ not be accepted by this group, WS2 or ICANN.
thanks avri
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