Hi, Wolfgang. Not sure if you are asking me or Isra, but here are some facts: The Pact for the Future is already in rev.2 (as of July 17), so combining the two is highly unlikely at this point of time. The whole idea behind the GDC is that it’s a compact, and it will be an annex to the Pact (it’s not the only one, by the way). The staff from the UN has published rev.2 here: https://www.un.org/en/summit-of-the-future/pact-for-the-future-revisions The GDC rev.3 is still not published on the webpages, maintained by the Tech Envoy’s office: https://www.un.org/techenvoy/global-digital-compact Best regards, Veni On Jul 27, 2024, at 06:35, Wolfgang Kleinwächter <wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info> wrote:  What happens, if the "informal consultations" on Auguist 19 do not produce a consensus? How do you see the option, to include the uncontroversial parts of the GDC, that is the principles and objectives (without the implementation details) into the "Pact of the Future" with a recommendation to continue negotiations on the controversial issue (data governance, AI, GDC Follow up, human rights etc.) during WSIS+20? w Israel Rosas via wsis20 <wsis20@icann.org> hat am 27.07.2024 12:20 CEST geschrieben: Thanks, Veni. That seems like plenty of time to publish Rev.3 on the website and organize a stakeholder consultation, but I’m afraid we won’t see that. Best, Isra Israel Rosas, Director, Partnerships and Internet Development Internet Society Donate today. [bit.ly]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bit.ly/3nUsQmJ__;!!PtGJab4!4SVwKpqPVi6w8...> From: Veni Markovski via wsis20 <wsis20@icann.org> Date: Saturday, 27 July 2024 at 5:11 a.m. To: WSIS20 Outreach Network <wsis20@icann.org> Subject: [wsis20] GDC updates Dear colleagues, Quick update from New York. The GDC co-facilitators have announced informal GDC consultations on 19th of August, where the member states will discuss the texts, which broke the silence procedure of rev.3. Perhaps the new rev.4 will be published soon after that date. Best regards, Veni _______________________________________________ Learn more about the WSIS+20 Outreach Network and review relevant resources: https://go.icann.org/wsis20 [go.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://go.icann.org/wsis20__;!!PtGJab4!4SVwKpqP...> Read the public archives for this mailing list: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/wsis20/ _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ Learn more about the WSIS+20 Outreach Network and review relevant resources: https://go.icann.org/wsis20 Read the public archives for this mailing list: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/wsis20/ _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

Hi, Chris. I understand the quote as a question he asked to himself, and then he suggested a possible answer, for which I provide some context. To answer your question - having in mind that this is a hypothetical situation, I can’t provide an answer. But we all see that the co-facilitators are doing everything they can to reach agreements between member states, and now provide yet another opportunity for them to meet and negotiate the texts, which are still “open”. Given the timeline, the co-facilitators will have several weeks to continue with their attempts to bring together the different parties and find some common ground. It is very likely that after a very long process, they will reach some form/kind of an agreement on the open texts. Hope this is helpful. Best regards, Veni On Jul 27, 2024, at 14:18, Chris Disspain <chris.disspain@identity.digital> wrote:  Thanks Veni I appreciate you suggesting Wolfgang’s option is unlikely. However, what are your thoughts on his base line question - What happens, if the "informal consultations" on Auguist 19 do not produce a consensus? Cheers, CD On 27 Jul 2024, at 18:13, Veni Markovski via wsis20 <wsis20@icann.org> wrote:  Hi, Wolfgang. Not sure if you are asking me or Isra, but here are some facts: The Pact for the Future is already in rev.2 (as of July 17), so combining the two is highly unlikely at this point of time. The whole idea behind the GDC is that it’s a compact, and it will be an annex to the Pact (it’s not the only one, by the way). The staff from the UN has published rev.2 here: https://www.un.org/en/summit-of-the-future/pact-for-the-future-revisions [un.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.un.org/en/summit-of-the-future/pact-...> The GDC rev.3 is still not published on the webpages, maintained by the Tech Envoy’s office: https://www.un.org/techenvoy/global-digital-compact [un.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.un.org/techenvoy/global-digital-comp...> Best regards, Veni On Jul 27, 2024, at 06:35, Wolfgang Kleinwächter <wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info> wrote:  What happens, if the "informal consultations" on Auguist 19 do not produce a consensus? How do you see the option, to include the uncontroversial parts of the GDC, that is the principles and objectives (without the implementation details) into the "Pact of the Future" with a recommendation to continue negotiations on the controversial issue (data governance, AI, GDC Follow up, human rights etc.) during WSIS+20? w Israel Rosas via wsis20 <wsis20@icann.org> hat am 27.07.2024 12:20 CEST geschrieben: Thanks, Veni. That seems like plenty of time to publish Rev.3 on the website and organize a stakeholder consultation, but I’m afraid we won’t see that. Best, Isra Israel Rosas, Director, Partnerships and Internet Development Internet Society Donate today. [bit.ly]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bit.ly/3nUsQmJ__;!!PtGJab4!4SVwKpqPVi6w8...> From: Veni Markovski via wsis20 <wsis20@icann.org> Date: Saturday, 27 July 2024 at 5:11 a.m. To: WSIS20 Outreach Network <wsis20@icann.org> Subject: [wsis20] GDC updates Dear colleagues, Quick update from New York. The GDC co-facilitators have announced informal GDC consultations on 19th of August, where the member states will discuss the texts, which broke the silence procedure of rev.3. Perhaps the new rev.4 will be published soon after that date. Best regards, Veni _______________________________________________ Learn more about the WSIS+20 Outreach Network and review relevant resources: https://go.icann.org/wsis20 [go.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://go.icann.org/wsis20__;!!PtGJab4!4SVwKpqP...> Read the public archives for this mailing list: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/wsis20/ _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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