CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting tomorrow - Minor corrections
Hi, I would like to question the non transcription decision. Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations. avri On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
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All, Let's discuss all the points raised during tomorrow's call! Best, Thomas Thomas Rickert Rechtsanwalt tel: +49.228.74 898.0 fax: +49.228.74 898.66 email: thomas@rickert.net web: rickert.net RICKERT Rechtsanwaltsgesellschaft m.b.H. (i.e. law firm) Kaiserplatz 7 - 9, 53113 Bonn, Germany HRB 9262, AG Bonn - GF/CEO: Thomas Rickert
Am 30.05.2016 um 18:17 schrieb avri doria <avri@apc.org>:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote: All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
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Hi, Thanks. I also wonder whether there is any reason to review the charter <https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Charter>. While the scope covers Work Stream 2,
In the discussions around the accountability process, the CCWG-Accountability will proceed with two Work Streams:
* *Work Stream 1*: focused on mechanisms enhancing ICANN accountability that must be in place or committed to within the time frame of the IANA Stewardship Transition; * *Work Stream 2*: focused on addressing accountability topics for which a timeline for developing solutions and full implementation may extend beyond the IANA Stewardship Transition.
other section such as deliverables and methodologies may warrant discussion. While sort of not yet the case, the new bylaws, especially Article 27, may have some effect on the charter as we move forward. avri On 30-May-16 12:21, Thomas Rickert wrote:
All, Let's discuss all the points raised during tomorrow's call!
Best, Thomas
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Am 30.05.2016 um 18:17 schrieb avri doria <avri@apc.org <mailto:avri@apc.org>>:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
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+ 1 On 5/30/2016 5:17 PM, avri doria wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
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On a non-substantive note, on slide 2, "Diversity" should be on its own line and preceded by a bullet. Greg On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Matthew Shears <mshears@cdt.org> wrote:
+ 1
On 5/30/2016 5:17 PM, avri doria wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
B.
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Transcriptions are the most reliable documentation of what was said and agreed to. Human memory is notoriously faulty. The fact that WS 2 items did not require pre-transition action does not lessen their importance. Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design." -- Branch Rickey From:mshears@cdt.org Sent:May 30, 2016 12:29 PM To:avri@apc.org; accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject:Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting tomorrow - Minor corrections + 1 On 5/30/2016 5:17 PM, avri doria wrote: Hi, I would like to question the non transcription decision. Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations. avri On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote: All, Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached. B. _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community -- Matthew Shears | Director, Global Internet Policy & Human Rights Project Center for Democracy & Technology | cdt.org E: mshears@cdt.org<mailto:mshears@cdt.org> | T: +44.771.247.2987
@Avri +100 Thanks for taking note that some/many do not have English as “legal” tongue, and neither can they give a perfectly formulate opinion during the call “live”, nor do they have the skills to edit the transcript in the comment period until next call. In my view it should not be 100% responsibility of Staff to write discussions/agreements down. Each WG leader should also be responsible for some level of editorial quality. Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 30 May 2016, at 10:17, avri doria wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
B.
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Hello Avri, everyone I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of the transcription. Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much better the argumentative process. I agree with your question and I join. Kind regards Harold Arcos +58 4129982820 skp: harcos0912 On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri@apc.org> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
B.
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I support Avri, Marilyn et al on transcription. The lack of transcription is a direct attack on the ability of non-native speakers to participate, whether unintentional or intentional. But I'll really not surprised. On 31/05/16 05:27, Harold Arcos wrote:
Hello Avri, everyone
I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of the transcription. Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much better the argumentative process.
I agree with your question and I joinv
Kind regards
Harold Arcos +58 4129982820 skp: harcos0912
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri@apc.org <mailto:avri@apc.org>> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
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+1 and many thanks to Avri for raising this fundamental issue. Lack of transcripts is simply unacceptable, in the light of (1) non-native speakers ability to participate and (2) transparency. I very much hope this is reconsidered. Best Rafael -----Mensaje original----- De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de Nigel Roberts Enviado el: martes, 31 de mayo de 2016 10:02 Para: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Asunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting tomorrow - Minor corrections I support Avri, Marilyn et al on transcription. The lack of transcription is a direct attack on the ability of non-native speakers to participate, whether unintentional or intentional. But I'll really not surprised. On 31/05/16 05:27, Harold Arcos wrote:
Hello Avri, everyone
I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of the transcription. Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much better the argumentative process.
I agree with your question and I joinv
Kind regards
Harold Arcos +58 4129982820 skp: harcos0912
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri@apc.org <mailto:avri@apc.org>> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote: > All, > > Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached. > > B. > > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
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It's not the nativity of the participants but the naïvité that is being exploited. el On 2016-05-31 09:14, Perez Galindo, Rafael wrote: [...]
Lack of transcripts is simply unacceptable, in the light of (1) non-native speakers ability to participate and (2) transparency. [...] -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/
And, before a complaint is raised with the Ombudsman about the spelling of naïvité when it should be naïveté http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Na%C3%AFvit%C3%A9 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/na%C3%AFvet%C3%A9 but just to make sure, s/naïvité/naïveté/g and I apologize for any convenience :-)-O el On 2016-05-31 09:35, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
It's not the nativity of the participants but the naïvité that is being exploited.
el
On 2016-05-31 09:14, Perez Galindo, Rafael wrote: [...]
Lack of transcripts is simply unacceptable, in the light of (1) non-native speakers ability to participate and (2) transparency. [...]
-- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse \ / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar) el@lisse.NA / * | Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell) PO Box 8421 \ / Bachbrecht, Namibia ;____/
Without commenting on the specifics of the issues (whether staff note taking or transcriptions or whatever), the entire discussion on costs started with us being told that we had exceeded our budget, a budget we were not aware of, did not know what it covered, and had absolutely no handle on what the costs were that were associated with it. I would have hoped that this time around, if we were making cost vs benefit decisions, we would not only be told the "decision", but also made aware of the specific costs that were being deemed to be too high and thus eliminated. VERY tiresome. Alan At 31/05/2016 04:02 AM, Nigel Roberts wrote:
I support Avri, Marilyn et al on transcription.
The lack of transcription is a direct attack on the ability of non-native speakers to participate, whether unintentional or intentional.
But I'll really not surprised.
On 31/05/16 05:27, Harold Arcos wrote:
Hello Avri, everyone
I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of the transcription. Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much better the argumentative process.
I agree with your question and I joinv
Kind regards
Harold Arcos +58 4129982820 skp: harcos0912
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri@apc.org <mailto:avri@apc.org>> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
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Why is anyone surprised that those holding the resources are going to constrain you? It is in ICANN's corporate interest to limit outside review. If we were serious about the process we would ask ICANN for a top line # for how much it is willing to spend on the WS2 process and then WE would decide how to allocate it: transcription; travel support; legal support; whatever. I have no real problem with ICANN setting an overall budget (subject, of course, to the new EC budget review powers). But allocation and priority setting should be by the CCWG. Paul Paul Rosenzweig paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com O: +1 (202) 547-0660 M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 www.redbranchconsulting.com My PGP Key -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:11 AM To: Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net>; accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting tomorrow - Minor corrections Without commenting on the specifics of the issues (whether staff note taking or transcriptions or whatever), the entire discussion on costs started with us being told that we had exceeded our budget, a budget we were not aware of, did not know what it covered, and had absolutely no handle on what the costs were that were associated with it. I would have hoped that this time around, if we were making cost vs benefit decisions, we would not only be told the "decision", but also made aware of the specific costs that were being deemed to be too high and thus eliminated. VERY tiresome. Alan At 31/05/2016 04:02 AM, Nigel Roberts wrote:
I support Avri, Marilyn et al on transcription.
The lack of transcription is a direct attack on the ability of non-native speakers to participate, whether unintentional or intentional.
But I'll really not surprised.
On 31/05/16 05:27, Harold Arcos wrote:
Hello Avri, everyone
I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of the transcription. Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much better the argumentative process.
I agree with your question and I joinv
Kind regards
Harold Arcos +58 4129982820 skp: harcos0912
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri@apc.org <mailto:avri@apc.org>> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote: > All, > > Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached. > > B. > > > _______________________________________________ > Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list > Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org> > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
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On 31-May-16 11:46, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
I have no real problem with ICANN setting an overall budget (subject, of course, to the new EC budget review powers).
We have no EC. not are likely to for the first 6 months of the WS2 effort.
But allocation and priority setting should be by the CCWG.
We should at least be consulted. But perhaps staff has consulted with our co-chairs and they have tentative agreements. Today's meeting seems to be their effort to check the reasoning with the rest of us. avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Fair enough for this cycle. But the WS2 work stream is going to continue long past when the EC comes into force .... Paul Paul Rosenzweig paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com O: +1 (202) 547-0660 M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 www.redbranchconsulting.com My PGP Key -----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of avri doria Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:59 AM To: accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting tomorrow - Minor corrections On 31-May-16 11:46, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
I have no real problem with ICANN setting an overall budget (subject, of course, to the new EC budget review powers).
We have no EC. not are likely to for the first 6 months of the WS2 effort.
But allocation and priority setting should be by the CCWG.
We should at least be consulted. But perhaps staff has consulted with our co-chairs and they have tentative agreements. Today's meeting seems to be their effort to check the reasoning with the rest of us. avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
All, as I mentioned in my previous e-mail to the list, let us discuss the issue during the upcoming call. It is a bit unfortunate that there is so much suspicion. I am sure we will be able to put most, if not all, concerns at rest. Some will be disappointed that there are no evil forces at work. Talk to you in a few hours. Best, Thomas
Am 31.05.2016 um 17:46 schrieb Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com>:
Why is anyone surprised that those holding the resources are going to constrain you? It is in ICANN's corporate interest to limit outside review.
If we were serious about the process we would ask ICANN for a top line # for how much it is willing to spend on the WS2 process and then WE would decide how to allocate it: transcription; travel support; legal support; whatever. I have no real problem with ICANN setting an overall budget (subject, of course, to the new EC budget review powers). But allocation and priority setting should be by the CCWG.
Paul
Paul Rosenzweig paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com O: +1 (202) 547-0660 M: +1 (202) 329-9650 VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 www.redbranchconsulting.com My PGP Key
-----Original Message----- From: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:11 AM To: Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net>; accountability-cross-community@icann.org Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting tomorrow - Minor corrections
Without commenting on the specifics of the issues (whether staff note taking or transcriptions or whatever), the entire discussion on costs started with us being told that we had exceeded our budget, a budget we were not aware of, did not know what it covered, and had absolutely no handle on what the costs were that were associated with it.
I would have hoped that this time around, if we were making cost vs benefit decisions, we would not only be told the "decision", but also made aware of the specific costs that were being deemed to be too high and thus eliminated.
VERY tiresome.
Alan
At 31/05/2016 04:02 AM, Nigel Roberts wrote:
I support Avri, Marilyn et al on transcription.
The lack of transcription is a direct attack on the ability of non-native speakers to participate, whether unintentional or intentional.
But I'll really not surprised.
On 31/05/16 05:27, Harold Arcos wrote:
Hello Avri, everyone
I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of the transcription. Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much better the argumentative process.
I agree with your question and I joinv
Kind regards
Harold Arcos +58 4129982820 skp: harcos0912
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri@apc.org <mailto:avri@apc.org>> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for both participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is not a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
B.
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To echo Thomas a bit - this is a proposal your cochairs and rapporteurs have fleshed out with staff to identify the resources needed for WS2 based on some assumptions about how the work will be done. Today we can discuss how the work is done and the resources required. That then will give everyone some clarity about the budget needed for next year. Nothing is set in stone right now. Cheers Jordan On Tuesday, 31 May 2016, Thomas Rickert <thomas@rickert.net> wrote:
All, as I mentioned in my previous e-mail to the list, let us discuss the issue during the upcoming call. It is a bit unfortunate that there is so much suspicion.
I am sure we will be able to put most, if not all, concerns at rest. Some will be disappointed that there are no evil forces at work.
Talk to you in a few hours.
Best, Thomas
Am 31.05.2016 um 17:46 schrieb Paul Rosenzweig < paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com');>
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Why is anyone surprised that those holding the resources are going to constrain you? It is in ICANN's corporate interest to limit outside review.
If we were serious about the process we would ask ICANN for a top line # for how much it is willing to spend on the WS2 process and then WE would decide how to allocate it: transcription; travel support; legal support; whatever. I have no real problem with ICANN setting an overall budget (subject, of course, to the new EC budget review powers). But allocation and priority setting should be by the CCWG.
Paul
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Without commenting on the specifics of the issues (whether staff note taking or transcriptions or whatever), the entire discussion on costs started with us being told that we had exceeded our budget, a budget we were not aware of, did not know what it covered, and had absolutely no handle on what the costs were that were associated with it.
I would have hoped that this time around, if we were making cost vs benefit decisions, we would not only be told the "decision", but also made aware of the specific costs that were being deemed to be too high and thus eliminated.
VERY tiresome.
Alan
At 31/05/2016 04:02 AM, Nigel Roberts wrote:
I support Avri, Marilyn et al on transcription.
The lack of transcription is a direct attack on the ability of non-native speakers to participate, whether unintentional or intentional.
But I'll really not surprised.
On 31/05/16 05:27, Harold Arcos wrote:
Hello Avri, everyone
I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of the transcription. Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much better the argumentative process.
I agree with your question and I joinv
Kind regards
Harold Arcos +58 4129982820 skp: harcos0912
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri@apc.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','avri@apc.org');> <mailto:avri@apc.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','avri@apc.org');>>> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to question the non transcription decision.
Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for
both
participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the transcription is important. It also helps those for whom English is
not
a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying accents and pronunciations.
avri
On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
B.
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All,
Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
B.
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Alan Greenberg -
avri doria -
Bernard Turcotte -
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. -
Dr Eberhard W Lisse -
Greg Shatan -
Harold Arcos -
Jordan Carter -
Matthew Shears -
Nigel Roberts -
Olga Cavalli -
Paul Rosenzweig -
Perez Galindo, Rafael -
Phil Corwin -
Thomas Rickert