Draft Table to compare Sole Des and Sole Mem
Hi all As mentioned in the AC room chat, I've drafted a table based on what Mathieu set out in the slide - bringing together criteria for assessing the two "Sole" models. It's a google doc here: < https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bu6ze45ONESJyO_f3RCpEafQsb1VAPgCFHtmWsNI...
PDF and Word docs attached. In thinking about these criteria, I'd urge a look back at our Counsel's work on comparing the two models. Also attached. This might be up for review and then we might use it on Wednesday. Feedback welcome! cheers Jordan
Hi all I have had a go at filling out some of the comparison table circulated yesterday, hopefully non-controversially. Encourage your review if you have a quiet moment and maybe suggest you add some thoughts if you feel confident in doing so? cheers Jordan On 19 October 2015 at 18:51, Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
Hi all
As mentioned in the AC room chat, I've drafted a table based on what Mathieu set out in the slide - bringing together criteria for assessing the two "Sole" models.
It's a google doc here: < https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bu6ze45ONESJyO_f3RCpEafQsb1VAPgCFHtmWsNI...
PDF and Word docs attached.
In thinking about these criteria, I'd urge a look back at our Counsel's work on comparing the two models. Also attached.
This might be up for review and then we might use it on Wednesday.
Feedback welcome!
cheers Jordan
-- Jordan Carter Chief Executive *InternetNZ* +64-4-495-2118 (office) | +64-21-442-649 (mob) Email: jordan@internetnz.net.nz Skype: jordancarter Web: www.internetnz.nz *A better world through a better Internet *
Hi Jordan, Great that you had a go at that and I realize all too well that it is much easier to comment on work done than to actually do the work. That said, may I suggest you rethink some of the descriptions for the colors. As an example: for green you write “more preferred” and the Sole MM gets a green for “all [powers] directly enforceable”. I think our discussions show (most recently yesterday afternoon) that not everyone agrees that having all powers directly legally enforceable is the "more preferred" option. A solution can be to “objectify” the description: green just becomes “maximum direct enforceability”, orange becomes “less direct enforceability" Cheers, Roelof From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz<mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz>> Date: dinsdag 20 oktober 2015 14:30 To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Draft Table to compare Sole Des and Sole Mem Hi all I have had a go at filling out some of the comparison table circulated yesterday, hopefully non-controversially. Encourage your review if you have a quiet moment and maybe suggest you add some thoughts if you feel confident in doing so? cheers Jordan On 19 October 2015 at 18:51, Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz<mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz>> wrote: Hi all As mentioned in the AC room chat, I've drafted a table based on what Mathieu set out in the slide - bringing together criteria for assessing the two "Sole" models. It's a google doc here: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bu6ze45ONESJyO_f3RCpEafQsb1VAPgCFHtmWsNI...> PDF and Word docs attached. In thinking about these criteria, I'd urge a look back at our Counsel's work on comparing the two models. Also attached. This might be up for review and then we might use it on Wednesday. Feedback welcome! cheers Jordan -- Jordan Carter Chief Executive InternetNZ +64-4-495-2118 (office) | +64-21-442-649 (mob) Email: jordan@internetnz.net.nz<mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz> Skype: jordancarter Web: www.internetnz.nz<http://www.internetnz.nz> A better world through a better Internet
Thanks Roelof - agree, and have clarified the language on the introductory slide. Jordan On 20 October 2015 at 15:06, Roelof Meijer <Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl> wrote:
Hi Jordan,
Great that you had a go at that and I realize all too well that it is much easier to comment on work done than to actually do the work.
That said, may I suggest you rethink some of the descriptions for the colors. As an example: for green you write “more preferred” and the Sole MM gets a green for “all [powers] directly enforceable”. I think our discussions show (most recently yesterday afternoon) that not everyone agrees that having all powers directly *legally* enforceable is the "more preferred" option.
A solution can be to “objectify” the description: green just becomes “maximum direct enforceability”, orange becomes “less direct enforceability"
Cheers,
Roelof
From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> Date: dinsdag 20 oktober 2015 14:30 To: Accountability Cross Community < accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Draft Table to compare Sole Des and Sole Mem
Hi all
I have had a go at filling out some of the comparison table circulated yesterday, hopefully non-controversially.
Encourage your review if you have a quiet moment and maybe suggest you add some thoughts if you feel confident in doing so?
cheers Jordan
On 19 October 2015 at 18:51, Jordan Carter <jordan@internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
Hi all
As mentioned in the AC room chat, I've drafted a table based on what Mathieu set out in the slide - bringing together criteria for assessing the two "Sole" models.
It's a google doc here: < https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bu6ze45ONESJyO_f3RCpEafQsb1VAPgCFHtmWsNI...
PDF and Word docs attached.
In thinking about these criteria, I'd urge a look back at our Counsel's work on comparing the two models. Also attached.
This might be up for review and then we might use it on Wednesday.
Feedback welcome!
cheers Jordan
-- Jordan Carter
Chief Executive *InternetNZ*
+64-4-495-2118 (office) | +64-21-442-649 (mob) Email: jordan@internetnz.net.nz Skype: jordancarter Web: www.internetnz.nz
*A better world through a better Internet *
-- Jordan Carter Chief Executive *InternetNZ* +64-4-495-2118 (office) | +64-21-442-649 (mob) Email: jordan@internetnz.net.nz Skype: jordancarter Web: www.internetnz.nz *A better world through a better Internet *
After looking at the sole member and sole designator models, in contrast to the board's proposal which is inadequate in my opinion, I will vote for the sole member model because it includes: "• Sole Member has statutory standing under California corporate law to enforce this right; direct enforceability by Sole Member. • Sole Member would have statutory right under California law to initiate or adopt bylaws amendments on its own, but the exercise of this right could be practically curtailed through internal Sole Member mechanisms." The connection referenced to actual statutory laws in the Sole Member model will provide more assurance to the internet community as a whole to trust the post-transition system in my opinion. Ron
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Ron Baione