CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary
Rafik, Thank you for this request. The Co-Chairs have approved putting this on the agenda for the face to face meeting for discussion by plenary. Bernard Turcotte ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability WS2 ============ From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:55 PM Subject: Re: CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary To: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> Cc: Fiona Asonga <fasonga@kixp.or.ke>, "Thomas Rickert | rickert.net" < thomas@rickert.net>, ACCT-Staff <acct-staff@icann.org>, Mathieu Weill < mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx> Hi, I am sending here the request for the plenary scheduled in Friday 10th March to have language interpretation service for the ws2 diversity subgroup confcalls from english to spanish and french, and vice versa, by a demand from subgroup members. Thanks, Best, Rafik
Rafik, We need to understand the cost impact of this request, as one of the elements required to review this request. We will share the costs estimate with the group, so that everyone has the same information. So that we can produce a cost estimate, could you help by providing an estimate of the number of calls, duration and number of participants estimated? Thank you in advance. To all, As this is not an expense type that is directly under the budget ownership of the co-chairs, Staff will have to make the decision on this request, but will definitely seek input from the CCWG members and co-chairs, before finalizing, and the discussion scheduled below during the plenary meeting will be very helpful to do so. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez ICANN – CFO 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: 310-301-5838 Mobile: 805-312-0052 Fax: 310-957-2348 From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 2:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary Rafik, Thank you for this request. The Co-Chairs have approved putting this on the agenda for the face to face meeting for discussion by plenary. Bernard Turcotte ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability WS2 ============ From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com>> Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:55 PM Subject: Re: CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary To: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com<mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com>> Cc: Fiona Asonga <fasonga@kixp.or.ke<mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke>>, "Thomas Rickert | rickert.net[rickert.net]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rickert.net&d=DwMFaQ&c=F...>" <thomas@rickert.net<mailto:thomas@rickert.net>>, ACCT-Staff <acct-staff@icann.org<mailto:acct-staff@icann.org>>, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx<mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>> Hi, I am sending here the request for the plenary scheduled in Friday 10th March to have language interpretation service for the ws2 diversity subgroup confcalls from english to spanish and french, and vice versa, by a demand from subgroup members. Thanks, Best, Rafik
It would be very convenient to take into account not only the cost of implementation to make the decision. A very important point is that this is one of the diversities that ICANN must protect and promote. Of all the diversities, it is one of the most contributes to the active participation. It provides a rich diversity of opinions, significantly expanding the contribution of geographic spectrum, idiosyncracy, social values, and even gender. It should be considered an investment, not a cost. Best regards Alberto De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de Xavier J. Calvez Enviado el: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:12 PM Para: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com>; Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> CC: Christina Rodriguez <christina.rodriguez@icann.org>; Duncan Burns <duncan.burns@icann.org> Asunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary Rafik, We need to understand the cost impact of this request, as one of the elements required to review this request. We will share the costs estimate with the group, so that everyone has the same information. So that we can produce a cost estimate, could you help by providing an estimate of the number of calls, duration and number of participants estimated? Thank you in advance. To all, As this is not an expense type that is directly under the budget ownership of the co-chairs, Staff will have to make the decision on this request, but will definitely seek input from the CCWG members and co-chairs, before finalizing, and the discussion scheduled below during the plenary meeting will be very helpful to do so. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez ICANN – CFO 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: 310-301-5838 Mobile: 805-312-0052 Fax: 310-957-2348 From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> > on behalf of Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com <mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> > Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 2:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org> > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary Rafik, Thank you for this request. The Co-Chairs have approved putting this on the agenda for the face to face meeting for discussion by plenary. Bernard Turcotte ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability WS2 ============ From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:55 PM Subject: Re: CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary To: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com <mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> > Cc: Fiona Asonga <fasonga@kixp.or.ke <mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke> >, "Thomas Rickert | rickert.net[rickert.net] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rickert.net&d=DwMFaQ&c=F...> " <thomas@rickert.net <mailto:thomas@rickert.net> >, ACCT-Staff <acct-staff@icann.org <mailto:acct-staff@icann.org> >, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> >, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx <mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx> > Hi, I am sending here the request for the plenary scheduled in Friday 10th March to have language interpretation service for the ws2 diversity subgroup confcalls from english to spanish and french, and vice versa, by a demand from subgroup members. Thanks, Best, Rafik
True Alberto, Xavier is equally right, every decision has a financial implication and it is within his remit to make us aware of the financial implication of the request since we require resources for a number of activities not limited to translation that we are engaged in as a team. Regards On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:23 AM, Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
It would be very convenient to take into account not only the cost of implementation to make the decision.
A very important point is that this is one of the diversities that ICANN must protect and promote.
Of all the diversities, it is one of the most contributes to the active participation. It provides a rich diversity of opinions, significantly expanding the contribution of geographic spectrum, idiosyncracy, social values, and even gender.
It should be considered an investment, not a cost.
Best regards
Alberto
De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de Xavier J. Calvez Enviado el: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:12 PM Para: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com>; Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> CC: Christina Rodriguez <christina.rodriguez@icann.org>; Duncan Burns <duncan.burns@icann.org> Asunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary
Rafik,
We need to understand the cost impact of this request, as one of the elements required to review this request. We will share the costs estimate with the group, so that everyone has the same information. So that we can produce a cost estimate, could you help by providing an estimate of the number of calls, duration and number of participants estimated? Thank you in advance.
To all,
As this is not an expense type that is directly under the budget ownership of the co-chairs, Staff will have to make the decision on this request, but will definitely seek input from the CCWG members and co-chairs, before finalizing, and the discussion scheduled below during the plenary meeting will be very helpful to do so.
Thank you.
Best,
Xavier
Xavier Calvez
ICANN – CFO
12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
Los Angeles, CA 90094
Phone: 310-301-5838
Mobile: 805-312-0052
Fax: 310-957-2348
From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 2:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary
Rafik,
Thank you for this request.
The Co-Chairs have approved putting this on the agenda for the face to face meeting for discussion by plenary.
Bernard Turcotte
ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability WS2
============
From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:55 PM Subject: Re: CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary To: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> Cc: Fiona Asonga <fasonga@kixp.or.ke>, "Thomas Rickert | rickert.net[rickert.net]" <thomas@rickert.net>, ACCT-Staff <acct-staff@icann.org>, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>
Hi,
I am sending here the request for the plenary scheduled in Friday 10th March to have language interpretation service for the ws2 diversity subgroup confcalls from english to spanish and french, and vice versa, by a demand from subgroup members.
Thanks,
Best,
Rafik
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Hello everyone, I understand everyone's point and rationale, from the inclusion language support provides to the importance of cost implications. However, the deadline for the submission of requests was February 15th, for which we all received plenty of reminders. This is not a capricious process to follow but rather a much needed process to help us organize and ensure all the resources are sufficient and available to provide the support. As I mentioned on my previous e-mail, interpretation support was NOT requested at the time the session was submitted for scheduling, thus we did not plan for interpreters to be available for this day nor we had planned for the equipment to be ready earlier. Historically, there was never a request for interpretation for this session which, at least for the past three ICANN meetings, has been schedule to take place before the ICANN meeting sessions begin. With this in mind, it is not a session we sort off have in our radar for language support, so it is not naturally included in our plan when working on the scheduling of resources arrival and interpretation equipment setup. Nevertheless, and as I had offered on my previous e-mail, we can provide a transcript in any of the other languages, which we will be produce by translating the EN transcript obtain from the EN audio. The EN transcript will also be provided the same way we always do for this session, this is an ATF-Transc (After the fact Transcript), which means the audio will be sent out for transctiption immediately after the session has concluded. Last but not least, we will be happy to review and honor (when possible) any future interpretation support requests for this session, just please make sure you plan accordigy by including the full set of requirements when completing the form you will be submitting to schedule your session. for this session during I remain at your dispossition for any additional questions and/or commenst you may have. I look forward to receiving your input. All the best, ______________________________________________________ Christina M Rodriguez Director, ICANN Language Services Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) www.icann.org -----Original Message----- From: Barrack Otieno [mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:32 PM To: Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org> Cc: Xavier J. Calvez <xavier.calvez@icann.org>; Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com>; Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org>; Christina Rodriguez <christina.rodriguez@icann.org>; Duncan Burns <duncan.burns@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary True Alberto, Xavier is equally right, every decision has a financial implication and it is within his remit to make us aware of the financial implication of the request since we require resources for a number of activities not limited to translation that we are engaged in as a team. Regards On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:23 AM, Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org> wrote:
It would be very convenient to take into account not only the cost of implementation to make the decision.
A very important point is that this is one of the diversities that ICANN must protect and promote.
Of all the diversities, it is one of the most contributes to the active participation. It provides a rich diversity of opinions, significantly expanding the contribution of geographic spectrum, idiosyncracy, social values, and even gender.
It should be considered an investment, not a cost.
Best regards
Alberto
De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de Xavier J. Calvez Enviado el: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:12 PM Para: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com>; Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> CC: Christina Rodriguez <christina.rodriguez@icann.org>; Duncan Burns <duncan.burns@icann.org> Asunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary
Rafik,
We need to understand the cost impact of this request, as one of the elements required to review this request. We will share the costs estimate with the group, so that everyone has the same information. So that we can produce a cost estimate, could you help by providing an estimate of the number of calls, duration and number of participants estimated? Thank you in advance.
To all,
As this is not an expense type that is directly under the budget ownership of the co-chairs, Staff will have to make the decision on this request, but will definitely seek input from the CCWG members and co-chairs, before finalizing, and the discussion scheduled below during the plenary meeting will be very helpful to do so.
Thank you.
Best,
Xavier
Xavier Calvez
ICANN – CFO
12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
Los Angeles, CA 90094
Phone: 310-301-5838
Mobile: 805-312-0052
Fax: 310-957-2348
From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 2:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary
Rafik,
Thank you for this request.
The Co-Chairs have approved putting this on the agenda for the face to face meeting for discussion by plenary.
Bernard Turcotte
ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability WS2
============
From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:55 PM Subject: Re: CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary To: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com> Cc: Fiona Asonga <fasonga@kixp.or.ke>, "Thomas Rickert | rickert.net[rickert.net]" <thomas@rickert.net>, ACCT-Staff <acct-staff@icann.org>, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>
Hi,
I am sending here the request for the plenary scheduled in Friday 10th March to have language interpretation service for the ws2 diversity subgroup confcalls from english to spanish and french, and vice versa, by a demand from subgroup members.
Thanks,
Best,
Rafik
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Alberto, Thank you for reminding me and everyone else that the decision should be first made on the basis of the merit of the benefits that the service would provide. Please be assured that the staff's evaluation of such requests is made with the primary bias of satisfying needs as much as possible, which I assumed would happen for this one as well. My role is to ensure that, in addition, the costs of the services provided are considered in making the decision, as Barack has indicated in his separate email. In any case, Christina has separately explained that this service can not be provided with this little notice, as interpreters and booths would have needed to be hired and booked weeks ago for interpretation to occur during Friday's meeting. Thank you. Best, Xavier On Mar 8, 2017, at 00:24, Alberto Soto <asoto@ibero-americano.org<mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org>> wrote: It would be very convenient to take into account not only the cost of implementation to make the decision. A very important point is that this is one of the diversities that ICANN must protect and promote. Of all the diversities, it is one of the most contributes to the active participation. It provides a rich diversity of opinions, significantly expanding the contribution of geographic spectrum, idiosyncracy, social values, and even gender. It should be considered an investment, not a cost. Best regards Alberto De: accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org] En nombre de Xavier J. Calvez Enviado el: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:12 PM Para: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com<mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com>>; Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>> CC: Christina Rodriguez <christina.rodriguez@icann.org<mailto:christina.rodriguez@icann.org>>; Duncan Burns <duncan.burns@icann.org<mailto:duncan.burns@icann.org>> Asunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary Rafik, We need to understand the cost impact of this request, as one of the elements required to review this request. We will share the costs estimate with the group, so that everyone has the same information. So that we can produce a cost estimate, could you help by providing an estimate of the number of calls, duration and number of participants estimated? Thank you in advance. To all, As this is not an expense type that is directly under the budget ownership of the co-chairs, Staff will have to make the decision on this request, but will definitely seek input from the CCWG members and co-chairs, before finalizing, and the discussion scheduled below during the plenary meeting will be very helpful to do so. Thank you. Best, Xavier Xavier Calvez ICANN – CFO 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: 310-301-5838 Mobile: 805-312-0052 Fax: 310-957-2348 From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com<mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com>> Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 2:02 PM To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community@icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary Rafik, Thank you for this request. The Co-Chairs have approved putting this on the agenda for the face to face meeting for discussion by plenary. Bernard Turcotte ICANN Staff Support to the CCWG-Accountability WS2 ============ From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com>> Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:55 PM Subject: Re: CCWG-Accountability-Diversity-RequestForInterpretation for Plenary To: Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard@gmail.com<mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com>> Cc: Fiona Asonga <fasonga@kixp.or.ke<mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke>>, "Thomas Rickert | rickert.net[rickert.net]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rickert.net&d=DwMFaQ&c=F...>" <thomas@rickert.net<mailto:thomas@rickert.net>>, ACCT-Staff <acct-staff@icann.org<mailto:acct-staff@icann.org>>, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr>>, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx<mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>> Hi, I am sending here the request for the plenary scheduled in Friday 10th March to have language interpretation service for the ws2 diversity subgroup confcalls from english to spanish and french, and vice versa, by a demand from subgroup members. Thanks, Best, Rafik
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