Proposed agenda for CCWG ACCT Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting | Thursday, 7 April 2016 @ 12:00 UTC
Dear All, In preparation for your call CCWG Accountability Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting<https://community.icann.org/x/WhWAAw> - Thursday, 7 April at 12:00 - 14:00 (time converter<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CCWG+Accountability...>), see below a proposed agenda: Proposed Agenda: 1. Opening Remarks 2. Second reading of question responses agreed on previous call 3. Resolution of remaining questions * 4. Next Steps 5. ICANN 56 - Helsinki 6. AOB * SAVE THE DATE, if needed, to complete Review of Bylaws: Saturday, 9 April @ 04:00 (AM)UTC Timeline reminder: 13 April - members of CCWG, CWG, Bylaws Coordination Group, Board and ICG to complete review of these DRAFT BYLAWS and provide feedback to legal teams Documents for call: See wiki page here<https://community.icann.org/x/LYMHAw> Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/ Thank you! Kind regards, Brenda
Dear Co-Chairs, On item 2 of the Agenda, you'd indicate during the call yesterday (it was also reflected in the notes) that responses to some of the questions and rationale will be provided. I strongly suggest that these responses be provided in the next few hours (since we have exceeded a 24hrs window). It will be good that we have those drafts so some of us who may not attend (or may be audio only) can comment appropriately. I am saying all these because it's been a practice in the past that decisions are made on second reading... Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 6 Apr 2016 1:34 p.m., "MSSI Secretariat" <mssi-secretariat@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
In preparation for your call CCWG Accountability Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting <https://community.icann.org/x/WhWAAw> – Thursday, 7 April at 12:00 – 14:00 (time converter <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CCWG+Accountability...>), see below a proposed agenda:
*Proposed Agenda:*
1. Opening Remarks
2. Second reading of question responses agreed on previous call
3. Resolution of remaining questions *
4. Next Steps
5. ICANN 56 - Helsinki
6. AOB
** SAVE THE DATE, if needed, to complete Review of Bylaws: **Saturday, 9 April @ 04:00 (AM)UTC *
*Timeline reminder: *13 April – members of CCWG, CWG, Bylaws Coordination Group, Board and ICG to complete review of these DRAFT BYLAWS and provide feedback to legal teams
*Documents for call*: See wiki page here <https://community.icann.org/x/LYMHAw>
*Adobe Connect: *https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Brenda
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Dear Co -Chair, We need to establish a working method on how to verify the Draft Bylaws to ensure their consistencies with the corresponding Recommendations from legal and accuracy point of view$ The only way would be a paragraph by paragraph verification Regards Kavouss 2016-04-06 17:46 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:
Dear Co-Chairs,
On item 2 of the Agenda, you'd indicate during the call yesterday (it was also reflected in the notes) that responses to some of the questions and rationale will be provided.
I strongly suggest that these responses be provided in the next few hours (since we have exceeded a 24hrs window). It will be good that we have those drafts so some of us who may not attend (or may be audio only) can comment appropriately.
I am saying all these because it's been a practice in the past that decisions are made on second reading...
Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 6 Apr 2016 1:34 p.m., "MSSI Secretariat" <mssi-secretariat@icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
In preparation for your call CCWG Accountability Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting <https://community.icann.org/x/WhWAAw> – Thursday, 7 April at 12:00 – 14:00 (time converter <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CCWG+Accountability...>), see below a proposed agenda:
*Proposed Agenda:*
1. Opening Remarks
2. Second reading of question responses agreed on previous call
3. Resolution of remaining questions *
4. Next Steps
5. ICANN 56 - Helsinki
6. AOB
** SAVE THE DATE, if needed, to complete Review of Bylaws: **Saturday, 9 April @ 04:00 (AM)UTC *
*Timeline reminder: *13 April – members of CCWG, CWG, Bylaws Coordination Group, Board and ICG to complete review of these DRAFT BYLAWS and provide feedback to legal teams
*Documents for call*: See wiki page here <https://community.icann.org/x/LYMHAw>
*Adobe Connect: *https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/
Thank you!
Kind regards,
Brenda
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Dear Kavouss, As a reminder, we have agreed that this detailed verification will be undertaken by our lawyers, once we have answered their questions. The legal team will then provide us with a certification that the Bylaws address each of the Recommendation. We are not there yet, but getting closer. Best Mathieu De : Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com] Envoyé : mercredi 6 avril 2016 23:37 À : Mathieu Weill; Thomas Rickert; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía; Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch; gac@gac.icann.org; <gac-leadership@icann.org> Cc : MSSI Secretariat; CCWG-Accountability Objet : Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Proposed agenda for CCWG ACCT Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting | Thursday, 7 April 2016 @ 12:00 UTC Dear Co -Chair, We need to establish a working method on how to verify the Draft Bylaws to ensure their consistencies with the corresponding Recommendations from legal and accuracy point of view$ The only way would be a paragraph by paragraph verification Regards Kavouss 2016-04-06 17:46 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>: Dear Co-Chairs, On item 2 of the Agenda, you'd indicate during the call yesterday (it was also reflected in the notes) that responses to some of the questions and rationale will be provided. I strongly suggest that these responses be provided in the next few hours (since we have exceeded a 24hrs window). It will be good that we have those drafts so some of us who may not attend (or may be audio only) can comment appropriately. I am saying all these because it's been a practice in the past that decisions are made on second reading... Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 6 Apr 2016 1:34 p.m., "MSSI Secretariat" <mssi-secretariat@icann.org> wrote: Dear All, In preparation for your call CCWG Accountability Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting <https://community.icann.org/x/WhWAAw> – Thursday, 7 April at 12:00 – 14:00 (time converter <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CCWG+Accountability...> ), see below a proposed agenda: Proposed Agenda: 1. Opening Remarks 2. Second reading of question responses agreed on previous call 3. Resolution of remaining questions * 4. Next Steps 5. ICANN 56 - Helsinki 6. AOB * SAVE THE DATE, if needed, to complete Review of Bylaws: Saturday, 9 April @ 04:00 (AM)UTC Timeline reminder: 13 April – members of CCWG, CWG, Bylaws Coordination Group, Board and ICG to complete review of these DRAFT BYLAWS and provide feedback to legal teams Documents for call: See wiki page here <https://community.icann.org/x/LYMHAw> Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/ <https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/> Thank you! Kind regards, Brenda _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community _______________________________________________ Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community
Dear Mathieu Thanks for reply As I mentioned two things are absolutely necessary to be discussed at today,s meeting 1 working method 2 Approach by which the draft prepared Irrespective of lawyers certificate WE , the CCWG who wrote the text are the sole eligible entity to Verify the draft PARAGRAPH BY PARAGRAPH WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO CERTIFY ABD NOT PAID LAWYERS WHOM I FO NOT KNOW. Read carefully the testimony which is the origin of this doubt Regards Kavousd Sent from my iPhone
On 7 Apr 2016, at 08:26, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:
Dear Kavouss,
As a reminder, we have agreed that this detailed verification will be undertaken by our lawyers, once we have answered their questions. The legal team will then provide us with a certification that the Bylaws address each of the Recommendation. We are not there yet, but getting closer.
Best Mathieu
De : Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com] Envoyé : mercredi 6 avril 2016 23:37 À : Mathieu Weill; Thomas Rickert; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía; Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch; gac@gac.icann.org; <gac-leadership@icann.org> Cc : MSSI Secretariat; CCWG-Accountability Objet : Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Proposed agenda for CCWG ACCT Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting | Thursday, 7 April 2016 @ 12:00 UTC
Dear Co -Chair, We need to establish a working method on how to verify the Draft Bylaws to ensure their consistencies with the corresponding Recommendations from legal and accuracy point of view$ The only way would be a paragraph by paragraph verification Regards Kavouss
2016-04-06 17:46 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>: Dear Co-Chairs,
On item 2 of the Agenda, you'd indicate during the call yesterday (it was also reflected in the notes) that responses to some of the questions and rationale will be provided.
I strongly suggest that these responses be provided in the next few hours (since we have exceeded a 24hrs window). It will be good that we have those drafts so some of us who may not attend (or may be audio only) can comment appropriately.
I am saying all these because it's been a practice in the past that decisions are made on second reading...
Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 6 Apr 2016 1:34 p.m., "MSSI Secretariat" <mssi-secretariat@icann.org> wrote: <image001.gif> Dear All, In preparation for your call CCWG Accountability Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting – Thursday, 7 April at 12:00 – 14:00 (time converter), see below a proposed agenda: Proposed Agenda: 1. Opening Remarks 2. Second reading of question responses agreed on previous call 3. Resolution of remaining questions * 4. Next Steps 5. ICANN 56 - Helsinki 6. AOB
* SAVE THE DATE, if needed, to complete Review of Bylaws: Saturday, 9 April @ 04:00 (AM)UTC
Timeline reminder: 13 April – members of CCWG, CWG, Bylaws Coordination Group, Board and ICG to complete review of these DRAFT BYLAWS and provide feedback to legal teams
Documents for call: See wiki page here
Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/
Thank you! Kind regards, Brenda
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Dear Mathieu I was part of an expert team when similar course of actions were done in a UN agency between 1990-1992. I therefore well know that unless an appropriate is taken there would be no legally valid transformation of written idea into legal text. There seems to be no agreed approach by CCWG on how this transformation to be carried forward. Few people representing specific category of ICANN constituencies with specific interest have drafted the bylaws which should be applied fir ALL Regards Kavousd Sent from my iPhone
On 7 Apr 2016, at 08:26, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill@afnic.fr> wrote:
Dear Kavouss,
As a reminder, we have agreed that this detailed verification will be undertaken by our lawyers, once we have answered their questions. The legal team will then provide us with a certification that the Bylaws address each of the Recommendation. We are not there yet, but getting closer.
Best Mathieu
De : Kavouss Arasteh [mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com] Envoyé : mercredi 6 avril 2016 23:37 À : Mathieu Weill; Thomas Rickert; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía; Thomas.Schneider@bakom.admin.ch; gac@gac.icann.org; <gac-leadership@icann.org> Cc : MSSI Secretariat; CCWG-Accountability Objet : Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Proposed agenda for CCWG ACCT Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting | Thursday, 7 April 2016 @ 12:00 UTC
Dear Co -Chair, We need to establish a working method on how to verify the Draft Bylaws to ensure their consistencies with the corresponding Recommendations from legal and accuracy point of view$ The only way would be a paragraph by paragraph verification Regards Kavouss
2016-04-06 17:46 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>: Dear Co-Chairs,
On item 2 of the Agenda, you'd indicate during the call yesterday (it was also reflected in the notes) that responses to some of the questions and rationale will be provided.
I strongly suggest that these responses be provided in the next few hours (since we have exceeded a 24hrs window). It will be good that we have those drafts so some of us who may not attend (or may be audio only) can comment appropriately.
I am saying all these because it's been a practice in the past that decisions are made on second reading...
Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 6 Apr 2016 1:34 p.m., "MSSI Secretariat" <mssi-secretariat@icann.org> wrote: <image001.gif> Dear All, In preparation for your call CCWG Accountability Review of Draft Bylaws Meeting – Thursday, 7 April at 12:00 – 14:00 (time converter), see below a proposed agenda: Proposed Agenda: 1. Opening Remarks 2. Second reading of question responses agreed on previous call 3. Resolution of remaining questions * 4. Next Steps 5. ICANN 56 - Helsinki 6. AOB
* SAVE THE DATE, if needed, to complete Review of Bylaws: Saturday, 9 April @ 04:00 (AM)UTC
Timeline reminder: 13 April – members of CCWG, CWG, Bylaws Coordination Group, Board and ICG to complete review of these DRAFT BYLAWS and provide feedback to legal teams
Documents for call: See wiki page here
Adobe Connect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/
Thank you! Kind regards, Brenda
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participants (4)
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Kavouss Arasteh -
Mathieu Weill -
MSSI Secretariat -
Seun Ojedeji