About Llatin Diacritics
Dear all, I wish to express my concern about the absence of a placeholder in the current draft of the ICANN Applicant Guidebook for the outcome of the Latin Script Diacritics Policy Development Process. This PDP addresses the ability for end-users to see their languages correctly represented in the Domain Name System (DNS), including the use of diacritics in Latin labels. This is not a theoretical issue: it affects how entire language communities write their names and identify themselves online. We are not requesting any extensions for the next round of applications or changes to the published timeline. This request is specific and procedural: that the Applicant Guidebook include a clear clause stating that if the Latin Script Diacritics PDP submits its recommendations within the expected timeframe, they will be incorporated into this round. We view this as a reasonable accommodation of ongoing community work that has a direct impact on linguistic and cultural accuracy for users. My two cents regards *Sergio Salinas Porto**Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>**Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>**FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet de LAC <https://fuilac.org>**facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> **twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>**Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819**"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra * * conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano*
Dear Sergio, As a member of the Working Group on Latin Diacritics, I would like to mention two points: First, almost a year ago, the Working Group asked explicitly that a placeholder such as you describe be included in the Applicant Guidebook. In the event, for whatever reason, that did not happen. But what you are calling for is not, by any means, something new raised at the last minute. Second, the report from the Latin Diacritics Working Group still needs to go thru the Public Comment process. But so far, we are about three months ahead of our original timeline/schedule. Which is to say, the conflict between our schedule and the schedule for the Applicant Guidebook is not due to us running behind. We were supposed to produce something for incorporation into this coming round, and we are satisfying the schedule which, when the Working Group was formed, was supposed to meet that mandate. Overall, speaking for myself, I entirely support you in calling for some process, whether a simple placeholder or something else, that will achieve the inclusion of our work in the Application Guidebook. Bill Jouris Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 9:54 AM, Sergio Salinas Porto via ALAC<alac@icann.org> wrote: Dear all, I wish to express my concern about the absence of a placeholder in the current draft of the ICANN Applicant Guidebook for the outcome of the Latin Script Diacritics Policy Development Process. This PDP addresses the ability for end-users to see their languages correctly represented in the Domain Name System (DNS), including the use of diacritics in Latin labels. This is not a theoretical issue: it affects how entire language communities write their names and identify themselves online. We are not requesting any extensions for the next round of applications or changes to the published timeline. This request is specific and procedural: that the Applicant Guidebook include a clear clause stating that if the Latin Script Diacritics PDP submits its recommendations within the expected timeframe, they will be incorporated into this round. We view this as a reasonable accommodation of ongoing community work that has a direct impact on linguistic and cultural accuracy for users. My two centsregardsSergio Salinas Porto Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet/FeTIA FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet de LAC facebook: salinasporto twitter: sergiosalinas Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819 "Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano_______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list -- alac@icann.org To unsubscribe send an email to alac-leave@icann.org At-Large Online: http://www.atlarge.icann.org ALAC Working Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Advisory+Committee+(ALA...) _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Thank you Bill for your support! *Sergio Salinas Porto**Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>**Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>**FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet de LAC <https://fuilac.org>**facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> **twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>**Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819**"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra * * conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano* El mar, 28 oct 2025 a las 7:30, Bill Jouris (<b_jouris@yahoo.com>) escribió:
Dear Sergio,
As a member of the Working Group on Latin Diacritics, I would like to mention two points:
First, almost a year ago, the Working Group asked explicitly that a placeholder such as you describe be included in the Applicant Guidebook. In the event, for whatever reason, that did not happen. But what you are calling for is not, by any means, something new raised at the last minute.
Second, the report from the Latin Diacritics Working Group still needs to go thru the Public Comment process. But so far, we are about three months ahead of our original timeline/schedule. Which is to say, the conflict between our schedule and the schedule for the Applicant Guidebook is not due to us running behind. We were supposed to produce something for incorporation into this coming round, and we are satisfying the schedule which, when the Working Group was formed, was supposed to meet that mandate.
Overall, speaking for myself, I entirely support you in calling for some process, whether a simple placeholder or something else, that will achieve the inclusion of our work in the Application Guidebook.
Bill Jouris
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg...>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 9:54 AM, Sergio Salinas Porto via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote: Dear all, I wish to express my concern about the absence of a placeholder in the current draft of the ICANN Applicant Guidebook for the outcome of the Latin Script Diacritics Policy Development Process.
This PDP addresses the ability for end-users to see their languages correctly represented in the Domain Name System (DNS), including the use of diacritics in Latin labels. This is not a theoretical issue: it affects how entire language communities write their names and identify themselves online.
We are not requesting any extensions for the next round of applications or changes to the published timeline.
This request is specific and procedural: that the Applicant Guidebook include a clear clause stating that if the Latin Script Diacritics PDP submits its recommendations within the expected timeframe, they will be incorporated into this round.
We view this as a reasonable accommodation of ongoing community work that has a direct impact on linguistic and cultural accuracy for users.
My two cents regards
*Sergio Salinas Porto**Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>**Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>**FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet de LAC <https://fuilac.org>**facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> **twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>**Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819**"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra *
* conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano*
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Thanks Sergio, for bringing this up. As Bill points out, this issue was discussed several months back, but at that time, it was decided not to make the AGB dependent on the outcomes of the LD PDP (especially since at that time, there was no clarity on the timeline and completion date). In the meeting last Saturday, the timeline is much clearer, and the team is hopeful of concluding its work by Aug 2026 (moving ahead from the Nov 2026 deadline). Also, the general contours of the outcomes are now visible from the draft recommendations. However, even after the LD PDP team completes its work, there may still be several downstream steps to be completed, which may take more time. For instance, the EPDP on IDNs Phase 2 report, which was approved earlier this year, is still awaiting key decisions on several areas. If ALAC/At-Large considers this as a high-impact/high-priority item, maybe we should request for some *via media* approach. With kind regards satish On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 10:34 AM Bill Jouris via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Sergio,
As a member of the Working Group on Latin Diacritics, I would like to mention two points:
First, almost a year ago, the Working Group asked explicitly that a placeholder such as you describe be included in the Applicant Guidebook. In the event, for whatever reason, that did not happen. But what you are calling for is not, by any means, something new raised at the last minute.
Second, the report from the Latin Diacritics Working Group still needs to go thru the Public Comment process. But so far, we are about three months ahead of our original timeline/schedule. Which is to say, the conflict between our schedule and the schedule for the Applicant Guidebook is not due to us running behind. We were supposed to produce something for incorporation into this coming round, and we are satisfying the schedule which, when the Working Group was formed, was supposed to meet that mandate.
Overall, speaking for myself, I entirely support you in calling for some process, whether a simple placeholder or something else, that will achieve the inclusion of our work in the Application Guidebook.
Bill Jouris
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg...>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 9:54 AM, Sergio Salinas Porto via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote: Dear all, I wish to express my concern about the absence of a placeholder in the current draft of the ICANN Applicant Guidebook for the outcome of the Latin Script Diacritics Policy Development Process.
This PDP addresses the ability for end-users to see their languages correctly represented in the Domain Name System (DNS), including the use of diacritics in Latin labels. This is not a theoretical issue: it affects how entire language communities write their names and identify themselves online.
We are not requesting any extensions for the next round of applications or changes to the published timeline.
This request is specific and procedural: that the Applicant Guidebook include a clear clause stating that if the Latin Script Diacritics PDP submits its recommendations within the expected timeframe, they will be incorporated into this round.
We view this as a reasonable accommodation of ongoing community work that has a direct impact on linguistic and cultural accuracy for users.
My two cents regards
*Sergio Salinas Porto**Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>**Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>**FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet de LAC <https://fuilac.org>**facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> **twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>**Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819**"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra *
* conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano*
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Dear Satish, personally I do not understand why the LD PDD would have been convened so quickly and worked so fast on a topic that is so high profile and potentially so high impact without doing all that can be done for it to be taken into account in the current round AGB. Otherwise, why the rush? We could have worked on this issue in 5 year's time? Kindest regards, Olivier On 28/10/2025 11:03, Satish Babu via ALAC wrote:
Thanks Sergio, for bringing this up.
As Bill points out, this issue was discussed several months back, but at that time, it was decided not to make the AGB dependent on the outcomes of the LD PDP (especially since at that time, there was no clarity on the timeline and completion date). In the meeting last Saturday, the timeline is much clearer, and the team is hopeful of concluding its work by Aug 2026 (moving ahead from the Nov 2026 deadline). Also, the general contours of the outcomes are now visible from the draft recommendations.
However, even after the LD PDP team completes its work, there may still be several downstream steps to be completed, which may take more time. For instance, the EPDP on IDNs Phase 2 report, which was approved earlier this year, is still awaiting key decisions on several areas.
If ALAC/At-Large considers this as a high-impact/high-priority item, maybe we should request for some /via media/ approach.
With kind regards
satish
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 10:34 AM Bill Jouris via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Sergio,
As a member of the Working Group on Latin Diacritics, I would like to mention two points:
First, almost a year ago, the Working Group asked explicitly that a placeholder such as you describe be included in the Applicant Guidebook. In the event, for whatever reason, that did not happen. But what you are calling for is not, by any means, something new raised at the last minute.
Second, the report from the Latin Diacritics Working Group still needs to go thru the Public Comment process. But so far, we are about three months ahead of our original timeline/schedule. Which is to say, the conflict between our schedule and the schedule for the Applicant Guidebook is not due to us running behind. We were supposed to produce something for incorporation into this coming round, and we are satisfying the schedule which, when the Working Group was formed, was supposed to meet that mandate.
Overall, speaking for myself, I entirely support you in calling for some process, whether a simple placeholder or something else, that will achieve the inclusion of our work in the Application Guidebook.
Bill Jouris
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg...>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 9:54 AM, Sergio Salinas Porto via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote: Dear all, I wish to express my concern about the absence of a placeholder in the current draft of the ICANN Applicant Guidebook for the outcome of the Latin Script Diacritics Policy Development Process.
This PDP addresses the ability for end-users to see their languages correctly represented in the Domain Name System (DNS), including the use of diacritics in Latin labels. This is not a theoretical issue: it affects how entire language communities write their names and identify themselves online.
We are not requesting any extensions for the next round of applications or changes to the published timeline.
This request is specific and procedural: that the Applicant Guidebook include a clear clause stating that if the Latin Script Diacritics PDP submits its recommendations within the expected timeframe, they will be incorporated into this round.
We view this as a reasonable accommodation of ongoing community work that has a direct impact on linguistic and cultural accuracy for users.
My two cents regards
*Sergio Salinas Porto* *Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>* *Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>* *FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet de LAC <https://fuilac.org>* *facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> * *twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>* *Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819* *"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra *
*conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano*
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Dear Sergio, Louis and Bill have already brought this issue to the ALAC Leadership's attention. We brought it up at the ALAC-GAC Bilateral this morning to try to align GAC support to bring the Board’s attention to this issue. But Satish is correct regarding established processes towards implementation. I think the Board will be reluctant to cut short this process because the process also involves the GNSO. The best advice I can provide is for the LD PDP WG to expedite - to the extent that they can - their Initial Report through the public comment proceeding and ready for GNSO's Council's consideration. And if Council approves it, then the Final Report recommendations will still need to go through the Board approval process for it to be consensus policy for implementation. This will NOT make it into the AGB. But there is the Standing Predictability Implementation Review Team (SPIRiT) mechanism that could facilitate inclusion of a solution, and the strongest way for SPIRiT to do anyway is to be able have and point to Board-adopted policy recommendations. Kind regards, Justine --------- On Tue, 28 Oct 2025, 11:05 Satish Babu via ALAC, <alac@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Sergio, for bringing this up.
As Bill points out, this issue was discussed several months back, but at that time, it was decided not to make the AGB dependent on the outcomes of the LD PDP (especially since at that time, there was no clarity on the timeline and completion date). In the meeting last Saturday, the timeline is much clearer, and the team is hopeful of concluding its work by Aug 2026 (moving ahead from the Nov 2026 deadline). Also, the general contours of the outcomes are now visible from the draft recommendations.
However, even after the LD PDP team completes its work, there may still be several downstream steps to be completed, which may take more time. For instance, the EPDP on IDNs Phase 2 report, which was approved earlier this year, is still awaiting key decisions on several areas.
If ALAC/At-Large considers this as a high-impact/high-priority item, maybe we should request for some *via media* approach.
With kind regards
satish
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 10:34 AM Bill Jouris via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Sergio,
As a member of the Working Group on Latin Diacritics, I would like to mention two points:
First, almost a year ago, the Working Group asked explicitly that a placeholder such as you describe be included in the Applicant Guidebook. In the event, for whatever reason, that did not happen. But what you are calling for is not, by any means, something new raised at the last minute.
Second, the report from the Latin Diacritics Working Group still needs to go thru the Public Comment process. But so far, we are about three months ahead of our original timeline/schedule. Which is to say, the conflict between our schedule and the schedule for the Applicant Guidebook is not due to us running behind. We were supposed to produce something for incorporation into this coming round, and we are satisfying the schedule which, when the Working Group was formed, was supposed to meet that mandate.
Overall, speaking for myself, I entirely support you in calling for some process, whether a simple placeholder or something else, that will achieve the inclusion of our work in the Application Guidebook.
Bill Jouris
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg...>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 9:54 AM, Sergio Salinas Porto via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote: Dear all, I wish to express my concern about the absence of a placeholder in the current draft of the ICANN Applicant Guidebook for the outcome of the Latin Script Diacritics Policy Development Process.
This PDP addresses the ability for end-users to see their languages correctly represented in the Domain Name System (DNS), including the use of diacritics in Latin labels. This is not a theoretical issue: it affects how entire language communities write their names and identify themselves online.
We are not requesting any extensions for the next round of applications or changes to the published timeline.
This request is specific and procedural: that the Applicant Guidebook include a clear clause stating that if the Latin Script Diacritics PDP submits its recommendations within the expected timeframe, they will be incorporated into this round.
We view this as a reasonable accommodation of ongoing community work that has a direct impact on linguistic and cultural accuracy for users.
My two cents regards
*Sergio Salinas Porto**Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>**Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>**FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet de LAC <https://fuilac.org>**facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> **twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>**Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819**"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra *
* conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano*
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Dear Justine, I am not requesting extensions for the next round of applications or changes to the published schedule. This request is specific and procedural: that the Applicant's Guide include a clear clause stating that if the Latin Script Diacritics PDP submits its recommendations within the deadline, they will be incorporated into this round. In my opinion, this is a simple and practical solution. *Sergio Salinas Porto**Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>**Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>**FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet de LAC <https://fuilac.org>**facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> **twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>**Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819**"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra * * conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano* El mar, 28 oct 2025 a las 8:51, Justine Chew via ALAC (<alac@icann.org>) escribió:
Dear Sergio,
Louis and Bill have already brought this issue to the ALAC Leadership's attention. We brought it up at the ALAC-GAC Bilateral this morning to try to align GAC support to bring the Board’s attention to this issue.
But Satish is correct regarding established processes towards implementation. I think the Board will be reluctant to cut short this process because the process also involves the GNSO.
The best advice I can provide is for the LD PDP WG to expedite - to the extent that they can - their Initial Report through the public comment proceeding and ready for GNSO's Council's consideration. And if Council approves it, then the Final Report recommendations will still need to go through the Board approval process for it to be consensus policy for implementation.
This will NOT make it into the AGB. But there is the Standing Predictability Implementation Review Team (SPIRiT) mechanism that could facilitate inclusion of a solution, and the strongest way for SPIRiT to do anyway is to be able have and point to Board-adopted policy recommendations.
Kind regards, Justine ---------
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025, 11:05 Satish Babu via ALAC, <alac@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Sergio, for bringing this up.
As Bill points out, this issue was discussed several months back, but at that time, it was decided not to make the AGB dependent on the outcomes of the LD PDP (especially since at that time, there was no clarity on the timeline and completion date). In the meeting last Saturday, the timeline is much clearer, and the team is hopeful of concluding its work by Aug 2026 (moving ahead from the Nov 2026 deadline). Also, the general contours of the outcomes are now visible from the draft recommendations.
However, even after the LD PDP team completes its work, there may still be several downstream steps to be completed, which may take more time. For instance, the EPDP on IDNs Phase 2 report, which was approved earlier this year, is still awaiting key decisions on several areas.
If ALAC/At-Large considers this as a high-impact/high-priority item, maybe we should request for some *via media* approach.
With kind regards
satish
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 10:34 AM Bill Jouris via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Sergio,
As a member of the Working Group on Latin Diacritics, I would like to mention two points:
First, almost a year ago, the Working Group asked explicitly that a placeholder such as you describe be included in the Applicant Guidebook. In the event, for whatever reason, that did not happen. But what you are calling for is not, by any means, something new raised at the last minute.
Second, the report from the Latin Diacritics Working Group still needs to go thru the Public Comment process. But so far, we are about three months ahead of our original timeline/schedule. Which is to say, the conflict between our schedule and the schedule for the Applicant Guidebook is not due to us running behind. We were supposed to produce something for incorporation into this coming round, and we are satisfying the schedule which, when the Working Group was formed, was supposed to meet that mandate.
Overall, speaking for myself, I entirely support you in calling for some process, whether a simple placeholder or something else, that will achieve the inclusion of our work in the Application Guidebook.
Bill Jouris
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 9:54 AM, Sergio Salinas Porto via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote: Dear all, I wish to express my concern about the absence of a placeholder in the current draft of the ICANN Applicant Guidebook for the outcome of the Latin Script Diacritics Policy Development Process.
This PDP addresses the ability for end-users to see their languages correctly represented in the Domain Name System (DNS), including the use of diacritics in Latin labels. This is not a theoretical issue: it affects how entire language communities write their names and identify themselves online.
We are not requesting any extensions for the next round of applications or changes to the published timeline.
This request is specific and procedural: that the Applicant Guidebook include a clear clause stating that if the Latin Script Diacritics PDP submits its recommendations within the expected timeframe, they will be incorporated into this round.
We view this as a reasonable accommodation of ongoing community work that has a direct impact on linguistic and cultural accuracy for users.
My two cents regards
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Thanks Justine and Olivier for your comments. As of now, the LD PDP is slated to complete its work in Aug 2026. But the steps that have to be followed with the GNSO Council and Board may take several months more. Therefore, as Justine proposes, we should maybe target the SPIRiT process instead of leaving it to the usual timeline. Also, the ALAC team in the LD PDP can raise this matter there, and see how the PDP Leadership Team responds. With kind regards satish On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 11:51 AM Justine Chew via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Sergio,
Louis and Bill have already brought this issue to the ALAC Leadership's attention. We brought it up at the ALAC-GAC Bilateral this morning to try to align GAC support to bring the Board’s attention to this issue.
But Satish is correct regarding established processes towards implementation. I think the Board will be reluctant to cut short this process because the process also involves the GNSO.
The best advice I can provide is for the LD PDP WG to expedite - to the extent that they can - their Initial Report through the public comment proceeding and ready for GNSO's Council's consideration. And if Council approves it, then the Final Report recommendations will still need to go through the Board approval process for it to be consensus policy for implementation.
This will NOT make it into the AGB. But there is the Standing Predictability Implementation Review Team (SPIRiT) mechanism that could facilitate inclusion of a solution, and the strongest way for SPIRiT to do anyway is to be able have and point to Board-adopted policy recommendations.
Kind regards, Justine ---------
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025, 11:05 Satish Babu via ALAC, <alac@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Sergio, for bringing this up.
As Bill points out, this issue was discussed several months back, but at that time, it was decided not to make the AGB dependent on the outcomes of the LD PDP (especially since at that time, there was no clarity on the timeline and completion date). In the meeting last Saturday, the timeline is much clearer, and the team is hopeful of concluding its work by Aug 2026 (moving ahead from the Nov 2026 deadline). Also, the general contours of the outcomes are now visible from the draft recommendations.
However, even after the LD PDP team completes its work, there may still be several downstream steps to be completed, which may take more time. For instance, the EPDP on IDNs Phase 2 report, which was approved earlier this year, is still awaiting key decisions on several areas.
If ALAC/At-Large considers this as a high-impact/high-priority item, maybe we should request for some *via media* approach.
With kind regards
satish
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 10:34 AM Bill Jouris via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Sergio,
As a member of the Working Group on Latin Diacritics, I would like to mention two points:
First, almost a year ago, the Working Group asked explicitly that a placeholder such as you describe be included in the Applicant Guidebook. In the event, for whatever reason, that did not happen. But what you are calling for is not, by any means, something new raised at the last minute.
Second, the report from the Latin Diacritics Working Group still needs to go thru the Public Comment process. But so far, we are about three months ahead of our original timeline/schedule. Which is to say, the conflict between our schedule and the schedule for the Applicant Guidebook is not due to us running behind. We were supposed to produce something for incorporation into this coming round, and we are satisfying the schedule which, when the Working Group was formed, was supposed to meet that mandate.
Overall, speaking for myself, I entirely support you in calling for some process, whether a simple placeholder or something else, that will achieve the inclusion of our work in the Application Guidebook.
Bill Jouris
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg...>
On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 9:54 AM, Sergio Salinas Porto via ALAC <alac@icann.org> wrote: Dear all, I wish to express my concern about the absence of a placeholder in the current draft of the ICANN Applicant Guidebook for the outcome of the Latin Script Diacritics Policy Development Process.
This PDP addresses the ability for end-users to see their languages correctly represented in the Domain Name System (DNS), including the use of diacritics in Latin labels. This is not a theoretical issue: it affects how entire language communities write their names and identify themselves online.
We are not requesting any extensions for the next round of applications or changes to the published timeline.
This request is specific and procedural: that the Applicant Guidebook include a clear clause stating that if the Latin Script Diacritics PDP submits its recommendations within the expected timeframe, they will be incorporated into this round.
We view this as a reasonable accommodation of ongoing community work that has a direct impact on linguistic and cultural accuracy for users.
My two cents regards
*Sergio Salinas Porto**Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>**Asociación Argentina de Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>**FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet de LAC <https://fuilac.org>**facebook: salinasporto <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> **twitter: sergiosalinas <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>**Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819**"Ojalá podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan nuestra *
* conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano*
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Bill Jouris -
Justine Chew -
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond -
Satish Babu -
Sergio Salinas Porto