Can individuals participate as equal members of RALOs?
A question: For each region that is constructing or has constructed a RALO, can unaffiliated individuals participate on an equal footing with ALS-affiliated individuals? I'm concerned that the layering of structures not disenfranchise individuals even further than they already are, but rather attempt to provide them with more channels for direct input into ICANN. Can people in other regions help me to answer the factual question whether this is happening? My understanding of LACRALO is that individuals can participate only partially, not serve as officers or vote on RALO business. Thanks, --Wendy -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/
Wendy, I have the similar question right after finalizing the MoU/OP for AP RALO. At this point, APRALO does not have any official way to accommodate individual participation in the election of officers or voting for RALO business. However, we had "observers" in our meeting in Bali and we agreed that all of our meetings will be "open" in principle. We at AP RALO also agreed to make as much decisions by consensus as possible which, in a way, could open more participation from those individuals. I was thinking to make some "special ALS" per each region where any unaffiliated individual could join and participate in RALO's business as equal to one member of ALS (not single-handed rep, but collectively with other individuals). best, izumi 2007/3/5, Wendy Seltzer <wendy@seltzer.com>:
A question: For each region that is constructing or has constructed a RALO, can unaffiliated individuals participate on an equal footing with ALS-affiliated individuals?
I'm concerned that the layering of structures not disenfranchise individuals even further than they already are, but rather attempt to provide them with more channels for direct input into ICANN.
Can people in other regions help me to answer the factual question whether this is happening? My understanding of LACRALO is that individuals can participate only partially, not serve as officers or vote on RALO business.
Thanks, --Wendy -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/
Wendy asks a good question. One that is worthwhile discussing... The question also came up in the North America ALS list. The general impression is that we have to recognize the fact that few, if any users from the region, will know about ALS's, ALAC and RALOS. As such we should make sure that any structures and rules we create are as open and inclusive as possible to individual users. regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 On 5-Mar-07, at 11:03 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:
Wendy,
I have the similar question right after finalizing the MoU/OP for AP RALO. At this point, APRALO does not have any official way to accommodate individual participation in the election of officers or voting for RALO business.
At 11:17 AM -0500 on 3/5/07, Mr. Robert Guerra wrote to a bunch of us, saying:
Wendy asks a good question. One that is worthwhile discussing...
The question also came up in the North America ALS list. The general impression is that we have to recognize the fact that few, if any users from the region, will know about ALS's, ALAC and RALOS. As such we should make sure that any structures and rules we create are as open and inclusive as possible to individual users.
Quite so. I'd say if anyone from the general public finds the acronyms in use as numerous and bewildering as I do their interest might flag a little. It would be really helpful to have a primer or participants manual - or is there already one? -- == Neil Schwartzman Chair, Board of Directors CAUCE Canada: The Canadian Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email Canada: +1 (514) 485-9713 US: +1 (303) 800 6345 UK: 020 8144 6345 Skype: spamfighter666 Fax: +1 (419) 793-0430 [AIM / MSN / Yahoo!]: CAUCECanada [Web]: http://cauce.ca See http://stopspamhere.ca for ways to prevent spam from hitting your inbox.
Neil Schwartzman ha scritto:
It would be really helpful to have a primer or participants manual - or is there already one?
A few days ago, I spent an hour on an idle evening writing this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-Large_Advisory_Committee Hopefully, it provides all the basic information in a few paragraphs. -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------
EURALO has the provision for voting rights for individuals in the Bylaws. Vittorio could provide more details, he is the only European ALAC member now during the illness of Annette. However, if I understand correctly, the language of the Bylaws is still not nailed down. Cheers, Roberto
-----Original Message----- From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Izumi AIZU Sent: 05 March 2007 17:04 To: Wendy Seltzer Cc: alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [At-Large] Can individuals participate as equal members ofRALOs?
Wendy,
I have the similar question right after finalizing the MoU/OP for AP RALO. At this point, APRALO does not have any official way to accommodate individual participation in the election of officers or voting for RALO business. However, we had "observers" in our meeting in Bali and we agreed that all of our meetings will be "open" in principle. We at AP RALO also agreed to make as much decisions by consensus as possible which, in a way, could open more participation from those individuals.
I was thinking to make some "special ALS" per each region where any unaffiliated individual could join and participate in RALO's business as equal to one member of ALS (not single-handed rep, but collectively with other individuals).
best,
izumi
2007/3/5, Wendy Seltzer <wendy@seltzer.com>:
A question: For each region that is constructing or has constructed a RALO, can unaffiliated individuals participate on an equal footing with ALS-affiliated individuals?
I'm concerned that the layering of structures not disenfranchise individuals even further than they already are, but rather attempt to provide them with more channels for direct input into ICANN.
Can people in other regions help me to answer the factual question whether this is happening? My understanding of LACRALO is that individuals can participate only partially, not serve as officers or vote on RALO business.
Thanks, --Wendy -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@seltzer.org Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/
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Wendy Seltzer ha scritto:
A question: For each region that is constructing or has constructed a RALO, can unaffiliated individuals participate on an equal footing with ALS-affiliated individuals?
I'm concerned that the layering of structures not disenfranchise individuals even further than they already are, but rather attempt to provide them with more channels for direct input into ICANN.
Can people in other regions help me to answer the factual question whether this is happening? My understanding of LACRALO is that individuals can participate only partially, not serve as officers or vote on RALO business.
Depends on the RALO Bylaws. I would expect NARALO to be heavily focused on individuals, while drafts for EURALO have both individual and organizational (ALSes) membership, and (AFAIK) the others only have organizational membership, while allowing individuals as "observers". It's each Region's call. -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------
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Izumi AIZU -
Mr. Robert Guerra -
Neil Schwartzman -
Roberto Gaetano -
Vittorio Bertola -
Wendy Seltzer