BC and CSG working sessions and BC Meeting+ Oct 12, 2010
Dear BC members Please mark your calenders for a multi purpose day of events and sessions on October 12, with onsite in Washington, DC and remote participation provided by ICANN for all sessions, and transcription of all sessions. We realize many members cannot attend in person, so the meeting will be fully transcribed, and we will have good remote participation support. Agenda i. CSG Charter : 1.5 Hours Sarah Deutsch, BC ; IPC and ISPCP CSG reps; ICANN staff as presenters ii. Panel on Security, Stability and Resiliency: Business User leadership and key issues Informational Sessionw ith speakers from BC and key industry players ´(GUESTS WHO ARE POSSIBLE RECRUITS/RELEVANT COLLEAGUES FROM ISP-IPC CONSTITUENCIES) iii. Panel on Brands as new top level domain names Informational session: speakers from experts and key NGOs who hold well known brands (RELEVANT GUESTS FROM POSSIBLE RECRUITS-SPECIAL SPEAKERS FROM KEY NGOS WITH SHARED ISSUES AS SPEAKERS) ´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´ iv. BC Members Meeting -- Hosted at Wilmer Hale Law Offices 8:15 -Continental Breakfast-Registration 8:30 a.m. Meeting opens +Chair Welcome-Overview +Discussion of Panels in a.m. RE reflecting into BC policy priorities overall - Co Moderated by Marilyn Cade and Steve DelBianco +Discussion of three to four key gTLD policy topics - Steve DelBianco, V.Chair, Policy Coordination (Steve will work with the full set of BC members engaged in the working groups to develop this fast paced update and discussion of current issues) +Update from GSNO Council provided by Councilors_Zahid Jamil and Mike Rodenbaugh +BC Charter updates driven by CSG and other Restructuring recommendations - CoModerated by Marilyn Cade and Chris Chaplow +update on Operations and Finance - Chris Chaplow, V.Chair, Operations and Finance - communications plan + presentation of prototype newsletter-initiative -Finance Committee + planning for Cartegeha - Marilyn Cade +NomComm overview - Chris Martin and Mike Roberts, appointees to NC from BC + Chair's Round UP 5:30 Meeting ends 6-7:30 p.m. Networking reception with USG, other industry BC candidates, guests BACKGROUND The CSG [Commercial Stakeholder Group] must update its charter in time to submit it before Cartegena meeting in December, and there are related updates which will affect the BC Charter. The BC also needs to critically examine its current policy prioritiesö look at the range of rapporteur reps, and plan for a challenging rest of year and early 2011. The BC will be holding elections in October for Councilor and confirming the V.Chair of Operations and Finance, and preparing for elections of officers in January for the four offices of Chair, V.Chair, Operations and Finance, V.Chair, Policy Coordination, and CSG Rep. A lot is happening at ICANN that has implications for the role of the business user community in guiding and influencing ICANN as an entity, as well as in gTLD policy. Policy decisions in the cc area and in related secuirity issues, which are broader than gTLD GNSO issues are also growing in importance to business. Accordingly, we will host a meeting, which will be anchored in Washington, D.C., but have remote participation supported by ICANN, for all BC members, on October 12. Many mambers have asked for more time to debate and dicuss business perspectives and policy topics, and like many other constituencies, we need to develop more discussion opportunities among our members. During this meeting, the V.Chair of Operations and Finance and BC colleagues working with him will also present a prototype of a BC communique. While we have added several new members since the new election of officers in 2010, supported by outreach by all of our active members, we need to do more outreach and recruitment. Therefore, the BC also will examine some emerging issues with some invited speakers in two one hour sessions, followed by a BC members discussion, which will include a discussion on the BC Charter changes which will be then formulated into a BC Charter's Update and circulated to the BC Membership for two rounds of comments, via email, and follow up conference call, later in October. All of these sessions will be transcribed. Decisions on the Charter for CSG and BC changes will not be made at the Oct. 12 meeting, but members input, which will include electronic comments or submissions by email will be gathered and incorporated into draft Charter for circulation. The two topics which will provide the emerging issues 'panels' are SSR -- Security, Stability and Resiliency, which will b a discussion with experts from both BC members and one or two industry wide experts The role and considerations of 'brands' TLDs, which will include two guests participants from NGO brands. Both of these sessions are to provoke exchange of views, information, and perspective.They will include invited guests from companies who the BC is interested in recruiting to membership. These sessions will be followed by a BC members only discussion about these topics and how they fit into the BC's mission and an examination of gTLD policy priorities and current activities, with a view to develop priorities for rest of year, and early 2011. [This session will be co-moderated by Marilyn Cade and Steve DelBianco] The outreach/recruitment/informational sessions are being planned by invited members to expand the role and involvement of our BC members. A panel description for each panel will be shared shortly. Chris Chaplow, V.Chair, Operations and Finance will also review a new communications pilot he has undertaken with the assistance of one of our members, John Berard. He will also introduce the new Finance subCommittee members Jon Nevett and Anders Halvorsen. NomComm Appointees Mike Roberts and Chris Martin are also invited to give a short overview of their expectations for the 2011 NomComm process and highlight the importance of early outreach via BC members to possible broader business candidates for the range of positions appointed by the NC. Finally, we will begin the effort to update the BC Charter by looking at the CSG Charter, and the output-recommendations that are'being approved from the Council accepting the recommendations of various restructuring committees with a briefing by ICANN staff, and then discuss the highlighted areas of possible enhancements to the BC Charter. (again, this is a briefing and overview discussion with online distribution fo charter changes. All decisions will be made after two rounds of email consultations to follow this briefing). The BC is a unique constituency and one that can significantly change its role in ICANN through increasing its focus on SSR and other issues that are now becoming a key concern, augmenting the present set of key concerns. We have added 11 new members since the new leadership was elected, and the members include several with a key expertise in SSR. ' Most other constituencies hold face to face meetings during the year, and we may work toward such an event for all BC members ion early 2011. For this upcoming meeting, we will focus on drawing those who can travel to Washington, DC for face to face, and work hard with ICANN on remote participation and transcription to make your investment of time well worthwhile. The fuller set of speakers for the two informational sessions is being finalized and will be distributed shortly. Marilyn Cade BC Chair
coolio. don't be changing anything, i've booked my non-refundable ticket. :-) see you all there... do people have any (cheap is good) hotel recommendations? mikey On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Marilyn Cade wrote:
Dear BC members
Please mark your calenders for a multi purpose day of events and sessions on October 12, with onsite in Washington, DC and remote participation provided by ICANN for all sessions, and transcription of all sessions. We realize many members cannot attend in person, so the meeting will be fully transcribed, and we will have good remote participation support.
Agenda i. CSG Charter : 1.5 Hours Sarah Deutsch, BC ; IPC and ISPCP CSG reps; ICANN staff as presenters
ii. Panel on Security, Stability and Resiliency: Business User leadership and key issues Informational Sessionw ith speakers from BC and key industry players ´(GUESTS WHO ARE POSSIBLE RECRUITS/RELEVANT COLLEAGUES FROM ISP-IPC CONSTITUENCIES) iii. Panel on Brands as new top level domain names Informational session: speakers from experts and key NGOs who hold well known brands (RELEVANT GUESTS FROM POSSIBLE RECRUITS-SPECIAL SPEAKERS FROM KEY NGOS WITH SHARED ISSUES AS SPEAKERS)
´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´ iv. BC Members Meeting -- Hosted at Wilmer Hale Law Offices 8:15 -Continental Breakfast-Registration 8:30 a.m. Meeting opens +Chair Welcome-Overview +Discussion of Panels in a.m. RE reflecting into BC policy priorities overall - Co Moderated by Marilyn Cade and Steve DelBianco +Discussion of three to four key gTLD policy topics - Steve DelBianco, V.Chair, Policy Coordination (Steve will work with the full set of BC members engaged in the working groups to develop this fast paced update and discussion of current issues) +Update from GSNO Council provided by Councilors_Zahid Jamil and Mike Rodenbaugh +BC Charter updates driven by CSG and other Restructuring recommendations - CoModerated by Marilyn Cade and Chris Chaplow +update on Operations and Finance - Chris Chaplow, V.Chair, Operations and Finance - communications plan + presentation of prototype newsletter-initiative -Finance Committee + planning for Cartegeha - Marilyn Cade +NomComm overview - Chris Martin and Mike Roberts, appointees to NC from BC + Chair's Round UP 5:30 Meeting ends
6-7:30 p.m. Networking reception with USG, other industry BC candidates, guests
BACKGROUND The CSG [Commercial Stakeholder Group] must update its charter in time to submit it before Cartegena meeting in December, and there are related updates which will affect the BC Charter. The BC also needs to critically examine its current policy prioritiesö look at the range of rapporteur reps, and plan for a challenging rest of year and early 2011. The BC will be holding elections in October for Councilor and confirming the V.Chair of Operations and Finance, and preparing for elections of officers in January for the four offices of Chair, V.Chair, Operations and Finance, V.Chair, Policy Coordination, and CSG Rep. A lot is happening at ICANN that has implications for the role of the business user community in guiding and influencing ICANN as an entity, as well as in gTLD policy. Policy decisions in the cc area and in related secuirity issues, which are broader than gTLD GNSO issues are also growing in importance to business. Accordingly, we will host a meeting, which will be anchored in Washington, D.C., but have remote participation supported by ICANN, for all BC members, on October 12. Many mambers have asked for more time to debate and dicuss business perspectives and policy topics, and like many other constituencies, we need to develop more discussion opportunities among our members. During this meeting, the V.Chair of Operations and Finance and BC colleagues working with him will also present a prototype of a BC communique. While we have added several new members since the new election of officers in 2010, supported by outreach by all of our active members, we need to do more outreach and recruitment. Therefore, the BC also will examine some emerging issues with some invited speakers in two one hour sessions, followed by a BC members discussion, which will include a discussion on the BC Charter changes which will be then formulated into a BC Charter's Update and circulated to the BC Membership for two rounds of comments, via email, and follow up conference call, later in October.
All of these sessions will be transcribed. Decisions on the Charter for CSG and BC changes will not be made at the Oct. 12 meeting, but members input, which will include electronic comments or submissions by email will be gathered and incorporated into draft Charter for circulation.
The two topics which will provide the emerging issues 'panels' are
SSR -- Security, Stability and Resiliency, which will b a discussion with experts from both BC members and one or two industry wide experts The role and considerations of 'brands' TLDs, which will include two guests participants from NGO brands.
Both of these sessions are to provoke exchange of views, information, and perspective.They will include invited guests from companies who the BC is interested in recruiting to membership. These sessions will be followed by a BC members only discussion about these topics and how they fit into the BC's mission and an examination of gTLD policy priorities and current activities, with a view to develop priorities for rest of year, and early 2011. [This session will be co-moderated by Marilyn Cade and Steve DelBianco]
The outreach/recruitment/informational sessions are being planned by invited members to expand the role and involvement of our BC members. A panel description for each panel will be shared shortly.
Chris Chaplow, V.Chair, Operations and Finance will also review a new communications pilot he has undertaken with the assistance of one of our members, John Berard. He will also introduce the new Finance subCommittee members Jon Nevett and Anders Halvorsen.
NomComm Appointees Mike Roberts and Chris Martin are also invited to give a short overview of their expectations for the 2011 NomComm process and highlight the importance of early outreach via BC members to possible broader business candidates for the range of positions appointed by the NC.
Finally, we will begin the effort to update the BC Charter by looking at the CSG Charter, and the output-recommendations that are'being approved from the Council accepting the recommendations of various restructuring committees with a briefing by ICANN staff, and then discuss the highlighted areas of possible enhancements to the BC Charter. (again, this is a briefing and overview discussion with online distribution fo charter changes. All decisions will be made after two rounds of email consultations to follow this briefing).
The BC is a unique constituency and one that can significantly change its role in ICANN through increasing its focus on SSR and other issues that are now becoming a key concern, augmenting the present set of key concerns. We have added 11 new members since the new leadership was elected, and the members include several with a key expertise in SSR. '
Most other constituencies hold face to face meetings during the year, and we may work toward such an event for all BC members ion early 2011. For this upcoming meeting, we will focus on drawing those who can travel to Washington, DC for face to face, and work hard with ICANN on remote participation and transcription to make your investment of time well worthwhile.
The fuller set of speakers for the two informational sessions is being finalized and will be distributed shortly.
Marilyn Cade BC Chair
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Thank you for the initiative in establishing this meeting, Chair. As Mikey has kicked off the RSVP list with his confirmation, please add my name as well. I look forward to seeing everyone in DC in a few weeks. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff President RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 _____ From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:06 AM To: bc - GNSO list Subject: [bc-gnso] BC and CSG working sessions and BC Meeting+ Oct 12, 2010 Dear BC members Please mark your calenders for a multi purpose day of events and sessions on October 12, with onsite in Washington, DC and remote participation provided by ICANN for all sessions, and transcription of all sessions. We realize many members cannot attend in person, so the meeting will be fully transcribed, and we will have good remote participation support. Agenda i. CSG Charter : 1.5 Hours Sarah Deutsch, BC ; IPC and ISPCP CSG reps; ICANN staff as presenters ii. Panel on Security, Stability and Resiliency: Business User leadership and key issues Informational Sessionw ith speakers from BC and key industry players ´(GUESTS WHO ARE POSSIBLE RECRUITS/RELEVANT COLLEAGUES FROM ISP-IPC CONSTITUENCIES) iii. Panel on Brands as new top level domain names Informational session: speakers from experts and key NGOs who hold well known brands (RELEVANT GUESTS FROM POSSIBLE RECRUITS-SPECIAL SPEAKERS FROM KEY NGOS WITH SHARED ISSUES AS SPEAKERS) ´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´ ´´´´ iv. BC Members Meeting -- Hosted at Wilmer Hale Law Offices 8:15 -Continental Breakfast-Registration 8:30 a.m. Meeting opens +Chair Welcome-Overview +Discussion of Panels in a.m. RE reflecting into BC policy priorities overall - Co Moderated by Marilyn Cade and Steve DelBianco +Discussion of three to four key gTLD policy topics - Steve DelBianco, V.Chair, Policy Coordination (Steve will work with the full set of BC members engaged in the working groups to develop this fast paced update and discussion of current issues) +Update from GSNO Council provided by Councilors_Zahid Jamil and Mike Rodenbaugh +BC Charter updates driven by CSG and other Restructuring recommendations - CoModerated by Marilyn Cade and Chris Chaplow +update on Operations and Finance - Chris Chaplow, V.Chair, Operations and Finance - communications plan + presentation of prototype newsletter-initiative -Finance Committee + planning for Cartegeha - Marilyn Cade +NomComm overview - Chris Martin and Mike Roberts, appointees to NC from BC + Chair's Round UP 5:30 Meeting ends 6-7:30 p.m. Networking reception with USG, other industry BC candidates, guests BACKGROUND The CSG [Commercial Stakeholder Group] must update its charter in time to submit it before Cartegena meeting in December, and there are related updates which will affect the BC Charter. The BC also needs to critically examine its current policy prioritiesö look at the range of rapporteur reps, and plan for a challenging rest of year and early 2011. The BC will be holding elections in October for Councilor and confirming the V.Chair of Operations and Finance, and preparing for elections of officers in January for the four offices of Chair, V.Chair, Operations and Finance, V.Chair, Policy Coordination, and CSG Rep. A lot is happening at ICANN that has implications for the role of the business user community in guiding and influencing ICANN as an entity, as well as in gTLD policy. Policy decisions in the cc area and in related secuirity issues, which are broader than gTLD GNSO issues are also growing in importance to business. Accordingly, we will host a meeting, which will be anchored in Washington, D.C., but have remote participation supported by ICANN, for all BC members, on October 12. Many mambers have asked for more time to debate and dicuss business perspectives and policy topics, and like many other constituencies, we need to develop more discussion opportunities among our members. During this meeting, the V.Chair of Operations and Finance and BC colleagues working with him will also present a prototype of a BC communique. While we have added several new members since the new election of officers in 2010, supported by outreach by all of our active members, we need to do more outreach and recruitment. Therefore, the BC also will examine some emerging issues with some invited speakers in two one hour sessions, followed by a BC members discussion, which will include a discussion on the BC Charter changes which will be then formulated into a BC Charter's Update and circulated to the BC Membership for two rounds of comments, via email, and follow up conference call, later in October. All of these sessions will be transcribed. Decisions on the Charter for CSG and BC changes will not be made at the Oct. 12 meeting, but members input, which will include electronic comments or submissions by email will be gathered and incorporated into draft Charter for circulation. The two topics which will provide the emerging issues 'panels' are SSR -- Security, Stability and Resiliency, which will b a discussion with experts from both BC members and one or two industry wide experts The role and considerations of 'brands' TLDs, which will include two guests participants from NGO brands. Both of these sessions are to provoke exchange of views, information, and perspective.They will include invited guests from companies who the BC is interested in recruiting to membership. These sessions will be followed by a BC members only discussion about these topics and how they fit into the BC's mission and an examination of gTLD policy priorities and current activities, with a view to develop priorities for rest of year, and early 2011. [This session will be co-moderated by Marilyn Cade and Steve DelBianco] The outreach/recruitment/informational sessions are being planned by invited members to expand the role and involvement of our BC members. A panel description for each panel will be shared shortly. Chris Chaplow, V.Chair, Operations and Finance will also review a new communications pilot he has undertaken with the assistance of one of our members, John Berard. He will also introduce the new Finance subCommittee members Jon Nevett and Anders Halvorsen. NomComm Appointees Mike Roberts and Chris Martin are also invited to give a short overview of their expectations for the 2011 NomComm process and highlight the importance of early outreach via BC members to possible broader business candidates for the range of positions appointed by the NC. Finally, we will begin the effort to update the BC Charter by looking at the CSG Charter, and the output-recommendations that are'being approved from the Council accepting the recommendations of various restructuring committees with a briefing by ICANN staff, and then discuss the highlighted areas of possible enhancements to the BC Charter. (again, this is a briefing and overview discussion with online distribution fo charter changes. All decisions will be made after two rounds of email consultations to follow this briefing). The BC is a unique constituency and one that can significantly change its role in ICANN through increasing its focus on SSR and other issues that are now becoming a key concern, augmenting the present set of key concerns. We have added 11 new members since the new leadership was elected, and the members include several with a key expertise in SSR. ' Most other constituencies hold face to face meetings during the year, and we may work toward such an event for all BC members ion early 2011. For this upcoming meeting, we will focus on drawing those who can travel to Washington, DC for face to face, and work hard with ICANN on remote participation and transcription to make your investment of time well worthwhile. The fuller set of speakers for the two informational sessions is being finalized and will be distributed shortly. Marilyn Cade BC Chair
As with both Ron and Mikey, please add me as well. I look forward to seeing everyone as well. For Hotels, there are quite a few in the area from China Town to McPherson Square. If your looking for a low cost option, look across the river in Crystal City or Pentagon City, both near the Pentagon or in Roslyn (Arlington). Metro is one stop into the district from either location. V/r, -Scott Scott M. McCormick - CEO McCormick ICT International mobile +1 443.691.2013 e-mail: scott@mccormickict.com skype: scottmmccormick On Sep 20, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Ron Andruff wrote:
Thank you for the initiative in establishing this meeting, Chair. As Mikey has kicked off the RSVP list with his confirmation, please add my name as well. I look forward to seeing everyone in DC in a few weeks.
Kind regards,
RA
Ronald N. Andruff President
RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11
From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:06 AM To: bc - GNSO list Subject: [bc-gnso] BC and CSG working sessions and BC Meeting+ Oct 12, 2010
Dear BC members
Please mark your calenders for a multi purpose day of events and sessions on October 12, with onsite in Washington, DC and remote participation provided by ICANN for all sessions, and transcription of all sessions. We realize many members cannot attend in person, so the meeting will be fully transcribed, and we will have good remote participation support.
Agenda i. CSG Charter : 1.5 Hours Sarah Deutsch, BC ; IPC and ISPCP CSG reps; ICANN staff as presenters
ii. Panel on Security, Stability and Resiliency: Business User leadership and key issues Informational Sessionw ith speakers from BC and key industry players ´(GUESTS WHO ARE POSSIBLE RECRUITS/RELEVANT COLLEAGUES FROM ISP-IPC CONSTITUENCIES) iii. Panel on Brands as new top level domain names Informational session: speakers from experts and key NGOs who hold well known brands (RELEVANT GUESTS FROM POSSIBLE RECRUITS-SPECIAL SPEAKERS FROM KEY NGOS WITH SHARED ISSUES AS SPEAKERS)
´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´ iv. BC Members Meeting -- Hosted at Wilmer Hale Law Offices 8:15 -Continental Breakfast-Registration 8:30 a.m. Meeting opens +Chair Welcome-Overview +Discussion of Panels in a.m. RE reflecting into BC policy priorities overall - Co Moderated by Marilyn Cade and Steve DelBianco +Discussion of three to four key gTLD policy topics - Steve DelBianco, V.Chair, Policy Coordination (Steve will work with the full set of BC members engaged in the working groups to develop this fast paced update and discussion of current issues) +Update from GSNO Council provided by Councilors_Zahid Jamil and Mike Rodenbaugh +BC Charter updates driven by CSG and other Restructuring recommendations - CoModerated by Marilyn Cade and Chris Chaplow +update on Operations and Finance - Chris Chaplow, V.Chair, Operations and Finance - communications plan + presentation of prototype newsletter-initiative -Finance Committee + planning for Cartegeha - Marilyn Cade +NomComm overview - Chris Martin and Mike Roberts, appointees to NC from BC + Chair's Round UP 5:30 Meeting ends
6-7:30 p.m. Networking reception with USG, other industry BC candidates, guests
BACKGROUND The CSG [Commercial Stakeholder Group] must update its charter in time to submit it before Cartegena meeting in December, and there are related updates which will affect the BC Charter. The BC also needs to critically examine its current policy prioritiesö look at the range of rapporteur reps, and plan for a challenging rest of year and early 2011. The BC will be holding elections in October for Councilor and confirming the V.Chair of Operations and Finance, and preparing for elections of officers in January for the four offices of Chair, V.Chair, Operations and Finance, V.Chair, Policy Coordination, and CSG Rep. A lot is happening at ICANN that has implications for the role of the business user community in guiding and influencing ICANN as an entity, as well as in gTLD policy. Policy decisions in the cc area and in related secuirity issues, which are broader than gTLD GNSO issues are also growing in importance to business. Accordingly, we will host a meeting, which will be anchored in Washington, D.C., but have remote participation supported by ICANN, for all BC members, on October 12. Many mambers have asked for more time to debate and dicuss business perspectives and policy topics, and like many other constituencies, we need to develop more discussion opportunities among our members. During this meeting, the V.Chair of Operations and Finance and BC colleagues working with him will also present a prototype of a BC communique. While we have added several new members since the new election of officers in 2010, supported by outreach by all of our active members, we need to do more outreach and recruitment. Therefore, the BC also will examine some emerging issues with some invited speakers in two one hour sessions, followed by a BC members discussion, which will include a discussion on the BC Charter changes which will be then formulated into a BC Charter's Update and circulated to the BC Membership for two rounds of comments, via email, and follow up conference call, later in October.
All of these sessions will be transcribed. Decisions on the Charter for CSG and BC changes will not be made at the Oct. 12 meeting, but members input, which will include electronic comments or submissions by email will be gathered and incorporated into draft Charter for circulation.
The two topics which will provide the emerging issues 'panels' are
SSR -- Security, Stability and Resiliency, which will b a discussion with experts from both BC members and one or two industry wide experts The role and considerations of 'brands' TLDs, which will include two guests participants from NGO brands.
Both of these sessions are to provoke exchange of views, information, and perspective.They will include invited guests from companies who the BC is interested in recruiting to membership. These sessions will be followed by a BC members only discussion about these topics and how they fit into the BC's mission and an examination of gTLD policy priorities and current activities, with a view to develop priorities for rest of year, and early 2011. [This session will be co-moderated by Marilyn Cade and Steve DelBianco]
The outreach/recruitment/informational sessions are being planned by invited members to expand the role and involvement of our BC members. A panel description for each panel will be shared shortly.
Chris Chaplow, V.Chair, Operations and Finance will also review a new communications pilot he has undertaken with the assistance of one of our members, John Berard. He will also introduce the new Finance subCommittee members Jon Nevett and Anders Halvorsen.
NomComm Appointees Mike Roberts and Chris Martin are also invited to give a short overview of their expectations for the 2011 NomComm process and highlight the importance of early outreach via BC members to possible broader business candidates for the range of positions appointed by the NC.
Finally, we will begin the effort to update the BC Charter by looking at the CSG Charter, and the output-recommendations that are'being approved from the Council accepting the recommendations of various restructuring committees with a briefing by ICANN staff, and then discuss the highlighted areas of possible enhancements to the BC Charter. (again, this is a briefing and overview discussion with online distribution fo charter changes. All decisions will be made after two rounds of email consultations to follow this briefing).
The BC is a unique constituency and one that can significantly change its role in ICANN through increasing its focus on SSR and other issues that are now becoming a key concern, augmenting the present set of key concerns. We have added 11 new members since the new leadership was elected, and the members include several with a key expertise in SSR. '
Most other constituencies hold face to face meetings during the year, and we may work toward such an event for all BC members ion early 2011. For this upcoming meeting, we will focus on drawing those who can travel to Washington, DC for face to face, and work hard with ICANN on remote participation and transcription to make your investment of time well worthwhile.
The fuller set of speakers for the two informational sessions is being finalized and will be distributed shortly.
Marilyn Cade BC Chair
Sarah, thanks for your efforts on leading this. In advance of the October 12 meeting would you explain now the proposed CSG charter changes please? And also explain what it is in the BC charter that must change in light of these CSG updates. In the previous BC charter debate we had tried to build in wording explicitly to AVOID the need to revisit the BC charter. Given the months of debate we had on the current BC charter we should be certain that additional changes really are needed. Many thanks Philip
I agree with Philip. We are a policy development organization, and should be spending as little time as possible on administrative items like Charter review. We already spent a lot of precious time on that upon the GNSO Restructure over the last couple years. Is more really necessary now? Does this really call for a face-to-face meeting of Members, when we know only a few members outside of Washington DC can realistically attend? Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com <http://rodenbaugh.com/> From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:08 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, thanks for your efforts on leading this. In advance of the October 12 meeting would you explain now the proposed CSG charter changes please? And also explain what it is in the BC charter that must change in light of these CSG updates. In the previous BC charter debate we had tried to build in wording explicitly to AVOID the need to revisit the BC charter. Given the months of debate we had on the current BC charter we should be certain that additional changes really are needed. Many thanks Philip
With all due respect to the effort that was invested in revising the BC Charter, many of us that were in attendance in Seoul when the vote was taken to finalize it were in strong disagreement with significant parts of it. Now whether the BC wants to change it or not, the current charter needs to be harmonized with other constituencies to arrive at a CSG charter that works for all. So the work needs to be done (notwithstanding some members not wanting to see any revision) and I therefore support this work. Regarding the BC meeting in Washington, I strongly encourage all members to make an effort to attend. As has been noted, other constituencies meet outside of ICANN meetings and the BC should be no exception. We, as a constituency, have a lot to do in order to build our organization to meet the needs of a growing and developing ICANN and DNS. As such, we should be trying to get together in face-to-face meetings more often, but that is not possible for all of the reasons we can imagine. In addition, I understand that our ExComm has put together a strong program with speakers that have relevance to our constituency and our constituency's work, so rather than disparage the need for a meeting I suggest that our GNSO representatives promote attendance either in-person or via remote hook up. This meeting will have great import to the role we play within ICANN, in my view, and I look forward to seeing/hearing as many of my fellow members on October 12th as possible. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff President RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 _____ From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mike Rodenbaugh Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:54 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter I agree with Philip. We are a policy development organization, and should be spending as little time as possible on administrative items like Charter review. We already spent a lot of precious time on that upon the GNSO Restructure over the last couple years. Is more really necessary now? Does this really call for a face-to-face meeting of Members, when we know only a few members outside of Washington DC can realistically attend? Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com <http://rodenbaugh.com/> From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:08 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, thanks for your efforts on leading this. In advance of the October 12 meeting would you explain now the proposed CSG charter changes please? And also explain what it is in the BC charter that must change in light of these CSG updates. In the previous BC charter debate we had tried to build in wording explicitly to AVOID the need to revisit the BC charter. Given the months of debate we had on the current BC charter we should be certain that additional changes really are needed. Many thanks Philip
Ron wrote: many of us that were in attendance in Seoul when the vote was taken to finalize it were in strong disagreement with significant parts of it. Well this is news - I thought we had ironed out all significant wrinkles by the time we got to version 18! The actual vote was not in person but on line and there were only 2 votes against. What strong disagreement do you have Ron? Philip
Update and advisory to BC members regarding Oct 12 sessions This is a reminder to mark your calendar for the Oct 12 sessions. Some will not be of interest to all BC members, and the day of work is designed in modules, to enable interested members to pick and chose. The CSG Charter working session is looking like it is more of an experts discussion with staff and I doubt that will have high appeal to all members, but it will be open to any interested BC members. There will be two roundtables which are informational sessions and will also include invited guests who may be recruitment opportunities. Informal lunch with roundtable speakers and ICANN staff BC Meeting for members only - Policy Session - 2 hours (may be modified as needed) -Two to three topics will be discussed in detail with Members 15-20 min each -Updates on other existing policy topics from Rapporteurs-Working Groups -Proposal from V.Chair, Policy Coordination for updating policy positions and rapporteurs NomComm members from BC - 10 minutes Administrative and Management Update - 15 minutes Communications and Membership Recruitment Initiatives - 10 Minutes BC Charter - overview and identification areas for change and improvement - 45 minutes (supported by ICANN staff with expertise and familiarity with GNSO Restructuring WGs) Chair note: I am seeing some questions about what will happen on the Oct 12 sessions. Please look at the agenda, which has been sent out a couple of times now, and now includes input from different members, including some of our newest members. All sessions will be transcribed and the Charter discussions are to gain input, so that then an updated charter can be distributed. We will address questions from members about why to make changes during the session and can also take written submissions about sections to update or not update, via email. Send the email proposals on the BC Charter to Marilyn, Sarah and Chris, and Steve and the CSG charter suggestions to Sarah, with a cc to Marilyn. Please do not use the full list for those submissions. We will aggregate them and put them into a single document to post to the list, so that members are not receiving random emails about that topic. Many members strongly prefer to have a less back and forth about such topics, and we can easily honor their request by this method of gathering input on the CSG Charter and BC Charter discussion segments. We will also hear from Chris and one of our members regarding a new newsletter approach, which will be an exciting new improvement to members communications. Remote participation will be supported by ICANN, and all sessions will be transcribed. Marilyn Cade BC Chair CC: ExComm
From my side, which is a purely practical side, I have been working with
Hi there, the charter for the last six months there a quite a number of little details that I think need revision. These are details that looked fine to me when I revised and voted for the present version, but as you expect it is quite different when you actually have to start working with it . I look forward to the opportunity to input some of these details at the forthcoming meeting in DC. Regards, Chris Chaplow Managing Director Andalucía.com S.L. Avenida del Carmen 9 Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo 1ª Planta, Oficina 30 Estepona, 29680 Malaga, Spain Tel: + (34) 952 897 865 Fax: + (34) 952 897 874 E-mail: <mailto:chris@andalucia.com> chris@andaluciaws.com Web: <http://www.andalucia.com/> www.andaluciaws.com
From my side, which is a purely practical side, I have been working with
Thanks Chris. Since most members wont be able to attend in DC, and maybe a few are still on the fence, could you share some of the proposed changes you are talking about. And why they ought to be discussed face to face among a relative few, rather than in writing among all? We managed to completely reformulate the charter without benefit of any special in-person meetings, so I have trouble understanding how revisions as to little details would require the extra commitment. Other than small details, are there any significant changes that you, or anyone else, think ought to be made? Proposals for significant change ought to be understood and debated by all members, not just the few who can attend an in-person meeting. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com <http://rodenbaugh.com/> From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Chris Chaplow Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:07 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Hi there, the charter for the last six months there a quite a number of little details that I think need revision. These are details that looked fine to me when I revised and voted for the present version, but as you expect it is quite different when you actually have to start working with it . I look forward to the opportunity to input some of these details at the forthcoming meeting in DC. Regards, Chris Chaplow Managing Director Andalucía.com S.L. Avenida del Carmen 9 Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo 1ª Planta, Oficina 30 Estepona, 29680 Malaga, Spain Tel: + (34) 952 897 865 Fax: + (34) 952 897 874 E-mail: <mailto:chris@andalucia.com> chris@andaluciaws.com Web: <http://www.andalucia.com/> www.andaluciaws.com
Mike, I am surprised that you have overlooked the fact that all members can attend - either physically or remotely - particularly as I noted that in my last post. While I encourage onlist discussion and debate, as you suggest, I do look forward to the October 12th gathering to get the charter right for the constituency and the larger CSG, among the many other activities that are planned. Will you be attending in person or remotely? Kind regards, RA ________________________________________ Ron Andruff RNA Partners, Inc. randruff@rnapartners.com www.rnapartners.com -----Original Message----- From: "Mike Rodenbaugh" <icann@rodenbaugh.com> Sender: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:23:06 To: 'bc - GNSO list'<bc-gnso@icann.org> Reply-To: <icann@rodenbaugh.com> Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Thanks Chris. Since most members won’t be able to attend in DC, and maybe a few are still on the fence, could you share some of the proposed changes you are talking about. And why they ought to be discussed face to face among a relative few, rather than in writing among all? We managed to completely reformulate the charter without benefit of any special in-person meetings, so I have trouble understanding how revisions as to ‘little details’ would require the extra commitment. Other than small details, are there any significant changes that you, or anyone else, think ought to be made? Proposals for significant change ought to be understood and debated by all members, not just the few who can attend an in-person meeting. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com <http://rodenbaugh.com/> From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Chris Chaplow Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:07 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Hi there, From my side, which is a purely practical side, I have been working with the charter for the last six months there a quite a number of little details that I think need revision. These are details that looked fine to me when I revised and voted for the present version, but as you expect it is quite different when you actually have to start working with it . I look forward to the opportunity to input some of these details at the forthcoming meeting in DC. Regards, Chris Chaplow Managing Director Andalucía.com S.L. Avenida del Carmen 9 Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo 1ª Planta, Oficina 30 Estepona, 29680 Malaga, Spain Tel: + (34) 952 897 865 Fax: + (34) 952 897 874 E-mail: <mailto:chris@andalucia.com> chris@andaluciaws.com Web: <http://www.andalucia.com/> www.andaluciaws.com
Chris C wrote: "I have been working with the (BC) charter for the last six months there a quite a number of little details that I think need revision". Always possible. Please tell us now what these are. Philip I am unable to attend the DC meeting by the way. My budget does not extend to that plus Cartagena.
hi all, i've read through our current charter just to remind myself of the major issues we were working on when we drafted it. my sense when we passed it on up the chain was that it was an interim document that was going to get revised once we had a better feel for the CSG charter (one "layer" above us in the GNSO) and after we'd had some experience with its day-to-day implementation (the kinds of things that i bet Chris has on his list). so i'll join the chorus that is saying that this review of our charter is a Good Thing, and that this is about the right time to do it. here are some of the big issues that i recall (hastily constructed after a quick reading, i'm probably missing a few); -- membership -- whether/how consultants and new-gTLD-applicants fit in our membership focus. -- disclosure -- whether consultants/lawyers/etc. needed to disclose their clients and the interests of those clients (we've got a new framework from the GNSO to incorporate into this one) -- Credentials Committee -- processes for members to appeal if their application is denied, and processes for disciplining members -- GNSO Council representatives -- the "each constituency elects 2" structure was an interim thing awaiting decisions further up the food-chain -- Executive Committee -- this charter created the Executive Committee and their roles out of thin air, so there well may be a number of tweaks that need to be applied based on experience -- Finance and Policy Committees -- again, created from whole cloth. experience may be a good teacher here as well. -- Policy-development process -- thresholds for adopting policy positions, process, etc. -- role and supervision of the Secretariat -- this was substantially changed, again experience may be a good teacher -- standards of behavior -- a very tough issue that may be informed by subsequent work of various players -- the level of accountability, authority and responsibility that apply to (and between) Council reps, Excom members and the constituency -- this one clearly needs work and clarification as i say, this is just the highlights through a foggy memory -- but i think it's a reasonable starting point for an "issues list" for discussion. i'm not sure we need to revisit all of these, but i'm perfectly fine with the decision by our leadership to take a look at the charter now that we've had some experience with it. mikey - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.)
Mike, its a great list. I have three observations: a) the rationale for BC charter changes have up till now been given to us by the ex comm as a function of the CSG charter revision but now that seems to be changing to a BC charter revision in isolation. b) Do we as the BC have more important areas to put our energy into? The 2009 charter discussion extended from March until November. I still have a folder of hundreds of e-mails, and like it or not it diverted our resource away from policy. c) I wonder if a few months and merely one set of elected officers (well some of them anyway) is sufficient experience. Philip
Just to weigh in here, we have a deadline to work on our CSG Charter revisions. It looks like we've tweaked the timing of the BC meeting in October to discuss the CSG Charter first thing in the morning with the CSG reps and any others who wish to attend. This timing will make sure that those of you who don't want to be tortured by this discussion don't have to attend so early. Of course, anyone who is interested is more than welcome to join. Again, just to reiterate our discussion of this topic in Brussels, the CSG Charter should be a noncontroversial exercise. It will be high level document leaving much of the actual policy decisionmaking to each Constituency. Mikey is correct that the BC Charter was only supposed to be an interim document. The same new GNSO Structural Improvements/Operating Procedures, which our Councilors voted in favor of now require us to update the BC Charter. Mikey lists below an excellent summary of many of the issues that need to be addressed. In addition, some of the other areas these procedures now require us to address include adding provisions about term limits, transparency, financial accountability and record keeping, voting remedies, etc. This is not to say we need to scrap the current Charter we all worked so hard to create. It will primarily be an exercise of updating and adding. Philip asks whether the BC has better things to do and whether some of the elected officers have "sufficient experience" to work on the BC Charter update. I've only been the CSG rep for a short time, but I think we realize that we are all volunteers here. I personally have nearly 25 years working as an attorney on many legal issues that are much more complicated than a Charter update. My recommendation is that since we are required to update our Charter anyway, it seems to make sense to take a shot at it now. We can talk to other constituencies, ask questions of ICANN staff and make sure that this is an open, collaborative and cordial process. Or we could wait and hope that next year's officers have "sufficient experience." Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Associate General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:39 AM To: bc - GNSO list Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter hi all, i've read through our current charter just to remind myself of the major issues we were working on when we drafted it. my sense when we passed it on up the chain was that it was an interim document that was going to get revised once we had a better feel for the CSG charter (one "layer" above us in the GNSO) and after we'd had some experience with its day-to-day implementation (the kinds of things that i bet Chris has on his list). so i'll join the chorus that is saying that this review of our charter is a Good Thing, and that this is about the right time to do it. here are some of the big issues that i recall (hastily constructed after a quick reading, i'm probably missing a few); -- membership -- whether/how consultants and new-gTLD-applicants fit in our membership focus. -- disclosure -- whether consultants/lawyers/etc. needed to disclose their clients and the interests of those clients (we've got a new framework from the GNSO to incorporate into this one) -- Credentials Committee -- processes for members to appeal if their application is denied, and processes for disciplining members -- GNSO Council representatives -- the "each constituency elects 2" structure was an interim thing awaiting decisions further up the food-chain -- Executive Committee -- this charter created the Executive Committee and their roles out of thin air, so there well may be a number of tweaks that need to be applied based on experience -- Finance and Policy Committees -- again, created from whole cloth. experience may be a good teacher here as well. -- Policy-development process -- thresholds for adopting policy positions, process, etc. -- role and supervision of the Secretariat -- this was substantially changed, again experience may be a good teacher -- standards of behavior -- a very tough issue that may be informed by subsequent work of various players -- the level of accountability, authority and responsibility that apply to (and between) Council reps, Excom members and the constituency -- this one clearly needs work and clarification as i say, this is just the highlights through a foggy memory -- but i think it's a reasonable starting point for an "issues list" for discussion. i'm not sure we need to revisit all of these, but i'm perfectly fine with the decision by our leadership to take a look at the charter now that we've had some experience with it. mikey - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.)
Sarah, to be clear my comment on experience was not about the experience of the current members of the ex comm, but the aggregate experience we have as a constituency in using the new Charter. There are already issues in Mikey's list that were safeguards placed into the BC Charter which directly addressed issues that the previous Charter did not. Some of these - actually most of these- have simply not been tested yet. --------------------------------- Nevertheless, I repeat that as a BC member I to date have NOT been informed of the detail of changes planned to either Charter and I'd like to know what they are please. Philip
+1 As a member of the BC ExComm, I also have been asking these questions, and have no answer. This despite six months of Charter drafting and debate last year. Yet the rest of the ExComm has voted to have an in-person meeting in two weeks, where this is to be a major topic of discussion? Transparency is severely lacking. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:40 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, to be clear my comment on experience was not about the experience of the current members of the ex comm, but the aggregate experience we have as a constituency in using the new Charter. There are already issues in Mikey's list that were safeguards placed into the BC Charter which directly addressed issues that the previous Charter did not. Some of these - actually most of these- have simply not been tested yet. --------------------------------- Nevertheless, I repeat that as a BC member I to date have NOT been informed of the detail of changes planned to either Charter and I'd like to know what they are please. Philip
The deadline to amend the CSG Charter is approaching, but unfortunately there has been no drafting since then. We discussed the Charter in Brussels, and the CSG reps met in Brussels, but we have not heard back from the other Constituency reps and we obviously need to move this along. That is one reason why we are slating a discussion of this topic at the upcoming DC meeting. We need to begin that drafting process to meet the Board's deadline. You are more than welcome to attend in person or by phone and hear all the details for yourself. It may also be helpful to review the attached Powerpoint presentation, which I gave at the Brussels meeting covering many of the issues that will need to be decided in the CSG drafting process. Soon after we tackle the CSG Charter, we need to turn to the process of amending the BC Charter. You both seem to be of the opinion that the BC Charter doesn't need updating, but it's my understanding that the GNSO Structural Improvements Mike and Zahid voted to approve now require changes to the Charter. It certainly seems more than transparent that we will be discussing this issue in some detail at the upcoming BC meeting. All BC members are encouraged to discuss what additional changes they want or don't want to see since this will be a collective effort. The list Mikey provided along with the additional list of issues I provided in my earlier response are a good start. Rather than lobbing out continued accusations of non-transparency or imagined conspiracy theories, I would urge you both to participate in these two efforts going forward. Any BC member can also call me directly rather than burdening the list with continued barbs. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mike Rodenbaugh Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:45 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter +1 As a member of the BC ExComm, I also have been asking these questions, and have no answer. This despite six months of Charter drafting and debate last year. Yet the rest of the ExComm has voted to have an in-person meeting in two weeks, where this is to be a major topic of discussion? Transparency is severely lacking. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:40 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, to be clear my comment on experience was not about the experience of the current members of the ex comm, but the aggregate experience we have as a constituency in using the new Charter. There are already issues in Mikey's list that were safeguards placed into the BC Charter which directly addressed issues that the previous Charter did not. Some of these - actually most of these- have simply not been tested yet. --------------------------------- Nevertheless, I repeat that as a BC member I to date have NOT been informed of the detail of changes planned to either Charter and I'd like to know what they are please. Philip
Sarah, I am only trying to get information to the List on this important topic. I am concerned of the Charter getting hijacked by a small group of members meeting together, when there was a long debate about it last summer on the List. There were 18 versions of the Charter and ultimately a vote of Members to approve it. I disagree that it was intended as an interim Charter, other than to incorporate changes to coordinate with a CSG charter. I further disagree that there is anything in the newly enacted GNSO Council procedural rules that require any substantial change to the BC charter. They are linked here: http://gnso.icann.org/council/gnso-op-procedures-05aug10-en.pdf. Please specify any that you see. Instead, at least Mikey seems to want to redo debate over virtually every substantial issue in the Charter, repeated below. You say that's a "good start" and list 4 other areas. So I am concerned, and I want to know what specific proposals for change are 1) required in any sense; and 2) otherwise proposed by any Member, and why. I think it is best and reasonable for Members to have that information far in advance of any member meeting at which they will be discussed. [Mikey's List] -- membership -- whether/how consultants and new-gTLD-applicants fit in our membership focus. -- disclosure -- whether consultants/lawyers/etc. needed to disclose their clients and the interests of those clients (we've got a new framework from the GNSO to incorporate into this one) -- Credentials Committee -- processes for members to appeal if their application is denied, and processes for disciplining members -- GNSO Council representatives -- the "each constituency elects 2" structure was an interim thing awaiting decisions further up the food-chain -- Executive Committee -- this charter created the Executive Committee and their roles out of thin air, so there well may be a number of tweaks that need to be applied based on experience -- Finance and Policy Committees -- again, created from whole cloth. experience may be a good teacher here as well. -- Policy-development process -- thresholds for adopting policy positions, process, etc. -- role and supervision of the Secretariat -- this was substantially changed, again experience may be a good teacher -- standards of behavior -- a very tough issue that may be informed by subsequent work of various players -- the level of accountability, authority and responsibility that apply to (and between) Council reps, Excom members and the constituency -- this one clearly needs work and clarification [Sarah's addition] -- provisions about term limits, transparency, financial accountability and record keeping, voting remedies, etc. Thanks, Mike Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Deutsch, Sarah B Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:47 AM To: 'icann@rodenbaugh.com'; 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter The deadline to amend the CSG Charter is approaching, but unfortunately there has been no drafting since then. We discussed the Charter in Brussels, and the CSG reps met in Brussels, but we have not heard back from the other Constituency reps and we obviously need to move this along. That is one reason why we are slating a discussion of this topic at the upcoming DC meeting. We need to begin that drafting process to meet the Board's deadline. You are more than welcome to attend in person or by phone and hear all the details for yourself. It may also be helpful to review the attached Powerpoint presentation, which I gave at the Brussels meeting covering many of the issues that will need to be decided in the CSG drafting process. Soon after we tackle the CSG Charter, we need to turn to the process of amending the BC Charter. You both seem to be of the opinion that the BC Charter doesn't need updating, but it's my understanding that the GNSO Structural Improvements Mike and Zahid voted to approve now require changes to the Charter. It certainly seems more than transparent that we will be discussing this issue in some detail at the upcoming BC meeting. All BC members are encouraged to discuss what additional changes they want or don't want to see since this will be a collective effort. The list Mikey provided along with the additional list of issues I provided in my earlier response are a good start. Rather than lobbing out continued accusations of non-transparency or imagined conspiracy theories, I would urge you both to participate in these two efforts going forward. Any BC member can also call me directly rather than burdening the list with continued barbs. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mike Rodenbaugh Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:45 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter +1 As a member of the BC ExComm, I also have been asking these questions, and have no answer. This despite six months of Charter drafting and debate last year. Yet the rest of the ExComm has voted to have an in-person meeting in two weeks, where this is to be a major topic of discussion? Transparency is severely lacking. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:40 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, to be clear my comment on experience was not about the experience of the current members of the ex comm, but the aggregate experience we have as a constituency in using the new Charter. There are already issues in Mikey's list that were safeguards placed into the BC Charter which directly addressed issues that the previous Charter did not. Some of these - actually most of these- have simply not been tested yet. --------------------------------- Nevertheless, I repeat that as a BC member I to date have NOT been informed of the detail of changes planned to either Charter and I'd like to know what they are please. Philip
Sarah, thank you for your reply. I wasn't aware I was making any accusations just a request. You reminded us of your Brussels presentation: "Welcome small working group to help to offer suggestions on language options and comments on draft text". I volunteer for this small working group. Who else is on it? May I see the draft text? Philip
Philip, As I mentioned in my last email, the actual drafting process will begin at the DC meeting. Please plan on participating. Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Associate General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:32 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, thank you for your reply. I wasn't aware I was making any accusations just a request. You reminded us of your Brussels presentation: "Welcome small working group to help to offer suggestions on language options and comments on draft text". I volunteer for this small working group. Who else is on it? May I see the draft text? Philip
Sarah, thanks for the clarification when you wrote: "the actual drafting process will begin at the DC meeting" So I believe I understand where we are on this. 1. In 2009, Tony Holmes , J Scott Evans and myself acted as the CSG executive committee and drafted the CSG interim Charter. This was then adopted by each constituency and approved by the Board in July 2009. 2. CSG Charter article 8.2 states - "create a consensus process for a Final CSG Charter (the "Final Charter") for adoption no later than three months prior to the commencement of the 2010 annual ICANN meeting" This means we told the Board the CSG final charter adoption process would start 6 September 2010. The intent was that the drafting process would precede the adoption process. 3. The CSG liaison who replaced me on the CSG executive committee was elected by the BC on 5 February 2010.The completion of the CSG final Charter was the number one priority for the CSG liaison. 4. Nothing happened between February and June 2010. 5. In Brussels - 21-25 June 2010 - there was a meeting of the CSG executive committee. 6. Since then nothing has happened. Is this correct ? I have two requests. a) May I and Ron see the notes of the CSG executive committee meeting in Brussels please so we may get a flavour of what was discussed. b) Please explain what you believe you may achieve in the October 12 DC BC members drafting plenary. Philip
Philip, I'm disappointed that you decided not to call me as I requested, which would take this dispute off the list. Instead, you chose to send yet another hostile email thinly cloaked in polite salutations. Apparently, you had hoped there was a draft that no one was sharing with you per the earlier imagined conspiracy theory. Now the latest tactic is to remind everyone that you drafted the interim charter and to emphasize that "nothing has happened." It's ironic since one of the most controversial provisions you attempted to add to the last BC charter was language designed to prevent certain members from continually criticizing others (including you at the time) with hostile postings on the BC list. The topic of amending the CSG charter was first scheduled to be discussed at the Brussels meeting in order to get initial feedback and guidance from all three of the constituency memberships. I presented on this topic at our joint House meeting and then the CSG reps and some but not all of the councilors met afterward to walk through the Charter and plan next steps. Based on the feedback from the members, it was clear that everyone wanted to take the interim charter (which basically says almost nothing) and update it with a light hand to make it a high level document. Because the CSG Charter would leave all substantive decisionmaking to each Consituency, the drafting process would be easy and noncontroversial. The CSG did not get together to work on a draft and obviously fell behind schedule, but they were also busy dealing on prior calls with getting our nominees on the SSR task forces and all the drama that followed. No one acted in bad faith or with any ill intent. I don't believe that any other constituency is very concerned about the delay or is even discussing this issue because they know it will be a relatively easy process to draft an update. Because of the delay, I had decided to do a first draft of the Charter update later this week and circulate to the CSG reps and any others on our drafting team in advance of the DC meeting. As I mentioned before, the drafting session in DC is not a "drafting plenary" session but will be open for anyone who wants to attend. In the meantime, if you are sincerely interested in working constructively with me and others on this project, please call me to discuss. Sarah Sarah B. Deutsch Vice President & Associate General Counsel Verizon Communications Phone: 703-351-3044 Fax: 703-351-3670 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:59 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter Sarah, thanks for the clarification when you wrote: "the actual drafting process will begin at the DC meeting" So I believe I understand where we are on this. 1. In 2009, Tony Holmes , J Scott Evans and myself acted as the CSG executive committee and drafted the CSG interim Charter. This was then adopted by each constituency and approved by the Board in July 2009. 2. CSG Charter article 8.2 states - "create a consensus process for a Final CSG Charter (the "Final Charter") for adoption no later than three months prior to the commencement of the 2010 annual ICANN meeting" This means we told the Board the CSG final charter adoption process would start 6 September 2010. The intent was that the drafting process would precede the adoption process. 3. The CSG liaison who replaced me on the CSG executive committee was elected by the BC on 5 February 2010.The completion of the CSG final Charter was the number one priority for the CSG liaison. 4. Nothing happened between February and June 2010. 5. In Brussels - 21-25 June 2010 - there was a meeting of the CSG executive committee. 6. Since then nothing has happened. Is this correct ? I have two requests. a) May I and Ron see the notes of the CSG executive committee meeting in Brussels please so we may get a flavour of what was discussed. b) Please explain what you believe you may achieve in the October 12 DC BC members drafting plenary. Philip
Sarah, I am disappointed you feel all this is hostile. I am trying to understand what has been done and what needs to be done. I on behalf of the Constituency made a commitment to the Board - so I do have some part in this. I have made no allegation about conspiracies, withheld information or any such like. Please review MY actual words. It is good you will do a draft later this week - I look forward to seeing it. Philip
Mike, Philip and all, As part of the GNSO Council Operating Procedures Work Team, I note that one refinement to our Charter (under the new requirements) is that the revised charters need to require constituency reps to advise their constituencies when they will be absent or abstaining from a vote as all votes belong to the constituencies not the councilors. This new procedure is required because of the low voting thresholds within the new 'house' structure. This amendment not only clarifies any misconception that the BC's councilors can vote their personal wishes over those of the constituency, but additionally provides a clearly defined mechanism to alert the ExComm when councilors intend to abstain or be absent whenever votes are taken. Separately, Sarah, I would also like to join you, Philip and others on the drafting team working group. Thank you. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff President RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:32 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, thank you for your reply. I wasn't aware I was making any accusations just a request. You reminded us of your Brussels presentation: "Welcome small working group to help to offer suggestions on language options and comments on draft text". I volunteer for this small working group. Who else is on it? May I see the draft text? Philip
Ron, Procedural rules of Council need not be enshrined in our Charter. The abstention process has already been discussed by ExComm and is in place in the event Zahid or I have advance notice of an absence or abstention. I do not believe that Zahid or I have any 'misconception' about Councilor's roles, as they are clearly defined in the Charter. Any 'misconception' may instead center around other roles, particularly the administrative Chair, which rightly has no special role in policy development under our Charter. In other words, the Chair cannot instruct the Councilors how to vote, nor can the ExComm, and this is how it should be. Otherwise a small minority of members, elected for roles that have little to do with policy development, would have undue influence over the elected policy Councilors. It is up to the Councilors to vote in accord with the wishes of the Constituency, as judged from the Constituency's written policy positions and otherwise within the elected Councilors' discretion. If you are proposing to change that fundamental structure, then it is a very large change that requires debate. So, what are you proposing? Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 http://rodenbaugh.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:39 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Mike, Philip and all, As part of the GNSO Council Operating Procedures Work Team, I note that one refinement to our Charter (under the new requirements) is that the revised charters need to require constituency reps to advise their constituencies when they will be absent or abstaining from a vote as all votes belong to the constituencies not the councilors. This new procedure is required because of the low voting thresholds within the new 'house' structure. This amendment not only clarifies any misconception that the BC's councilors can vote their personal wishes over those of the constituency, but additionally provides a clearly defined mechanism to alert the ExComm when councilors intend to abstain or be absent whenever votes are taken. Separately, Sarah, I would also like to join you, Philip and others on the drafting team working group. Thank you. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff President RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:32 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, thank you for your reply. I wasn't aware I was making any accusations just a request. You reminded us of your Brussels presentation: "Welcome small working group to help to offer suggestions on language options and comments on draft text". I volunteer for this small working group. Who else is on it? May I see the draft text? Philip
Mike, I was attempting to respond to Philip and inform the list of one charter refinement that I am aware of as a member of the noted Work Team (i.e., all votes belong to the Constituency). While I didn't intend to strike a nerve it appears I did, and thus you force me to point out that your response to the list about your voting is contrary to the position you took at the GNSO Council meeting in Seoul, which is a matter of public record. The last point that must be addressed is that many of the BC members are small business owners like myself, who personally foot the bill to attend a 7-day ICANN meeting three times per year, so I take umbrage with your comment: ".so that everyone has a fair chance to comment, and not merely those who have the luxury of attending every ICANN meeting." The luxury goes to those whose trips are fully paid, including our councilors; not to those of us who pay from our own pockets to participate in ICANN. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff President RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:39 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Mike, Philip and all, As part of the GNSO Council Operating Procedures Work Team, I note that one refinement to our Charter (under the new requirements) is that the revised charters need to require constituency reps to advise their constituencies when they will be absent or abstaining from a vote as all votes belong to the constituencies not the councilors. This new procedure is required because of the low voting thresholds within the new 'house' structure. This amendment not only clarifies any misconception that the BC's councilors can vote their personal wishes over those of the constituency, but additionally provides a clearly defined mechanism to alert the ExComm when councilors intend to abstain or be absent whenever votes are taken. Separately, Sarah, I would also like to join you, Philip and others on the drafting team working group. Thank you. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff President RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:32 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, thank you for your reply. I wasn't aware I was making any accusations just a request. You reminded us of your Brussels presentation: "Welcome small working group to help to offer suggestions on language options and comments on draft text". I volunteer for this small working group. Who else is on it? May I see the draft text? Philip
Ron -- So then you agree that the fundamental structure set out in the Charter is conceptually correct, and are not proposing to change it? Or do you have a proposal you wish to share? If I said something inconsistent in Seoul, please prove it to me privately and I will come back to the list and acknowledge or explain. Otherwise I doubt I was inconsistent as this has always been my belief -- and I argued strenuously for it in our last, grueling Charter debate. It certainly is a high privilege to serve as an elected representative of such a wide variety of businesses, trying to advance their interests in the DNS. It is also a great deal of work, merely to monitor all the policy work much less to meaningfully participate, engage others to participate, and build consensus not only in the disparate and tense BC, but also among other stakeholders. It is hard, generally thankless and frustrating work and it takes a lot of volunteer time. The amount of time easily averages 8-10 hours a week. There are never enough other volunteers to assist, so the work falls to Councilors to undertake or ignore. The travel benefit is the only benefit offered to Councilors. It was a hard fought benefit only offered in recent years. And now it is uncertain again, as political interests (in particular our administrative Chair) have worked to turn the thrice-yearly travel benefit into a political football to be punted about each time, ending up in the hands of some lucky winner who has most pleased the Chair in recent months. As my Council seat is coming up for election very soon, people should understand all this as they consider potential candidacies. I'm happy to answer any questions. Mike Rodenbaugh RODENBAUGH LAW tel/fax: +1 (415) 738-8087 <http://rodenbaugh.com/> http://rodenbaugh.com From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 2:16 PM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Mike, I was attempting to respond to Philip and inform the list of one charter refinement that I am aware of as a member of the noted Work Team (i.e., all votes belong to the Constituency). While I didn't intend to strike a nerve it appears I did, and thus you force me to point out that your response to the list about your voting is contrary to the position you took at the GNSO Council meeting in Seoul, which is a matter of public record. The last point that must be addressed is that many of the BC members are small business owners like myself, who personally foot the bill to attend a 7-day ICANN meeting three times per year, so I take umbrage with your comment: ".so that everyone has a fair chance to comment, and not merely those who have the luxury of attending every ICANN meeting." The luxury goes to those whose trips are fully paid, including our councilors; not to those of us who pay from our own pockets to participate in ICANN. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff President RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Ron Andruff Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:39 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Mike, Philip and all, As part of the GNSO Council Operating Procedures Work Team, I note that one refinement to our Charter (under the new requirements) is that the revised charters need to require constituency reps to advise their constituencies when they will be absent or abstaining from a vote as all votes belong to the constituencies not the councilors. This new procedure is required because of the low voting thresholds within the new 'house' structure. This amendment not only clarifies any misconception that the BC's councilors can vote their personal wishes over those of the constituency, but additionally provides a clearly defined mechanism to alert the ExComm when councilors intend to abstain or be absent whenever votes are taken. Separately, Sarah, I would also like to join you, Philip and others on the drafting team working group. Thank you. Kind regards, RA Ronald N. Andruff President RNA Partners, Inc. 220 Fifth Avenue New York, New York 10001 + 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bc-gnso@icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso@icann.org] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:32 AM To: 'bc - GNSO list' Subject: [bc-gnso] CSG charter and knock-on effects to BC charter Sarah, thank you for your reply. I wasn't aware I was making any accusations just a request. You reminded us of your Brussels presentation: "Welcome small working group to help to offer suggestions on language options and comments on draft text". I volunteer for this small working group. Who else is on it? May I see the draft text? Philip
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Chris Chaplow -
Deutsch, Sarah B -
Marilyn Cade -
Mike O'Connor -
Mike Rodenbaugh -
Philip Sheppard -
Ron Andruff -
Scott M. McCormick