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Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 24 September 2024 at 04:00 UTC
by Claudia Ruiz Sept. 24, 2024

Sept. 24, 2024

***STARTING IN 45 MINS*** Dear all, The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 24 September 2024 at 04:00 UTC. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/95343564290?pwd=s4XExjPzsgl74t9I5pbfc7LzT5oWNS.1 Meeting ID: 953 4356 4290 Passcode: PGAWG#2024 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/gwBoFg

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REMINDER | Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 24 September 2024 at 04:00 UTC
by Claudia Ruiz Sept. 23, 2024

Sept. 23, 2024

Dear all, As a reminder, the next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 24 September 2024 at 04:00 UTC. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/95343564290?pwd=s4XExjPzsgl74t9I5pbfc7LzT5oWNS.1 Meeting ID: 953 4356 4290 Passcode: PGAWG#2024 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/gwBoFg Best regards, Claudia Ruiz

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Agenda and background material
by Bart Boswinkel Sept. 23, 2024

Sept. 23, 2024

Dear all, Please find included the agenda for the upcoming PGA meeting, and (links to the) background material. Please note we will be using Mentimeter polling for this meeting, the access code or QR code will be shared at the start of the call, as well as instruction on how to join. Kind regards, Bart Agenda 1. Welcome 2. Administrative matters * SoI updates * Workplan: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KLwT8OSYHnHf-bRHfZuAW15cKIx6vthA_W36g5t… 3. Discission of potential Gaps identified by IANA * Method, San Juan & Kigali outcomes ( see included PDF). * Topics to be discussed (see the items in paper: Identified GAPs from IANA perspective [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/15D2j805FMomv…>. The order of topics in the paper follows the order of priority of topics from the IANA perspective. The next 3 topics to be discussed are: i. Local Presence ii. Minimum level of Involvement iii. Active Compliance Monitoring 1. Next meeting * 8 October 2024 * 22 October 2024 2. AOB 3. Closure

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Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 24 September 2024 at 04:00 UTC
by Claudia Ruiz Sept. 21, 2024

Sept. 21, 2024

Dear all, The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 24 September 2024 at 04:00 UTC. An agenda will be circulated prior to the call. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/95343564290?pwd=s4XExjPzsgl74t9I5pbfc7LzT5oWNS.1 Meeting ID: 953 4356 4290 Passcode: PGAWG#2024 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/gwBoFg Best regards, Claudia Ruiz

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Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 24 September 2024 at 04:00 UTC
by Claudia Ruiz Sept. 13, 2024

Sept. 13, 2024

Dear all, The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 24 September 2024 at 04:00 UTC. An agenda will be circulated prior to the call. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/95343564290?pwd=s4XExjPzsgl74t9I5pbfc7LzT5oWNS.1 Meeting ID: 953 4356 4290 Passcode: PGAWG#2024 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/gwBoFg

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Homework, ahead of the 24 September PGA WG meeting
by Joke Braeken Sept. 10, 2024

Sept. 10, 2024

Dear All, Action item #2: Working group members to read the following documents by the next meeting, and to add any comments they may have: * Overview of Policies and Guidance relevant to ccTLDs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jp2WLD6ZfF1nVY3p0xSNkCeo1E4fKIdL/edit?u…> * Identified GAPs from IANA perspective<https://docs.google.com/document/d/15D2j805FMomv0Hl7pn39D3S3_DbBAJYpeq8d1kY…> Best regards, Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>

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NOTES | PGA WG | Tuesday, 10 September 2024 at 20:00 UTC
by Joke Braeken Sept. 10, 2024

Sept. 10, 2024

NOTES | PGA WG | Tuesday, 10 September 2024 at 20:00 UTC. 1. Welcome Welcome by Jordan Carter, PGA WG Chair Apologies by Bart, Pengzu, Abdalmonem and Chris 2. Administrative matters a) SOI updates Action item #1: Staff to check whether SOIs are missing for WG members. b) Nomination Chair and Vice Chair: confirmation and next steps Jordan nominated as Chair, Maria as Vice Chair Next step: formal appointment by Council (mid-September Council meeting) 3. Decision meeting rotation from next meeting onwards Suggestion: 4 UTC, noon UTC, 20 UTC Agenda item 3. Timezone distribution PGA members https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=9&day=10&year… 4, UTC, noon UTC, 20 UTC: Rotation until ICANN 81. Evaluate at ICANN 81, to see how it works. 4. Previous meeting: questions or comments regarding the intro to PGA WG work? none 5. Overview of Policies and Guidance relevant to ccTLDs Agenda item 4: overview policies and guidance relevant to ccTLDs https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jp2WLD6ZfF1nVY3p0xSNkCeo1E4fKIdL/edit?u… Jordan: Bart was the original author of the document. Explains what each page is, and welcomes comments. >>> intro ccNSO mandate to develop best practices. Some of the policy sources pre-date ICANN. E.g. RFC1591. Key foundational document. >>> chapter 1 Idea behind the doc: have a comprehensive list of all policies, guidelines etc that apply to relation between the ccTLD and IANA. main sources of the mandate. >>> chapter 2 Iso 3166-1. Exceptionally reserved names, IDN ccTLDs ccPDP4 >>> chapter 3 >>> section 4. Dispute resolution Pablo: will we create a new RFC that replaces FOI and 1591? Jordan: we do not need to do that. The RFC series is no longer the place where the policies are made. Kim: what Jordan said is correct. MoU between ICANN and IETF regarding policy development. There is no RFC to be published. Unless: RFC1591 is not a thing, go see icann policy docs. Was published in 1994 by icann staff. Current operational practices, but it is not policy. Part of the problem: a new person looking at the doc does not understand that it has never been intended as a policy. Jordan: we had to had have sth to point to Nick: nostalgia. It is not a policy doc. It is a quaint use of the language. Long time ago. Jordan: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1591 Nick: almost the 10 commandments. Nuances are historic. Hard to rewrite, without changing the interpretation of the policy as it was intended. Some intentions are obscure. You need to look at the FOI. once you pull the string, you do not know where it ends up/ Irina: Sections 2 & 3 of this document need to be updated as PDP4 was approved by ccNSO Council and members and now is for Board consideration Nick: interesting exercise. Sad to see it retiring. It is a historical artifact. Words from John Postel. It is going to take extreme care. Jordan: part of the work by this PGA WG, identify gap. One way to fill the gap is to create policy. In a later call, we will look into the set of methods to fill a gap. If we create something new, it will create benefits (e.g. for iana), but it will also create challenges. By nature, it opens up what is in the policy. Some gvt or community participants might be uncomfortable. This group will make a recommendation to the ccNSO community what the gaps are and what the recommended method is to fill them. Pablo: i believe the work that was done by the small team of Councillors that developed this doc. It created a path for us to understand how these policies evolved, and the importance of why they need to be updated. Need to be careful. Recognise that the doc no longer responds to the realities of what we do, and how the TLDs evolved. Strong doc. Jordan: don’t come to a decision too quickly. We will come to the way forward later on >>> Section 5. guidance/advice. E.g. emojis, wildcards Jordan: not sure if there is a policy about what can and cannot be in the root zone Current state of knowledge from April. Some things have changed in the meanwhile. E.g. ccPDP4 policy as noted by Irina. Peter: financial contributions to ICANN guideline. Not sure it fits here? The rest of the list deals with the structure of the naming system, the role of the ccTLD and related parts. Jordan: this group does not update the guidelines. We have GRC. but we factored in all factors in the relation between ccTLDs and iana. Whether or not you make a financial contribution, does not influence the treatment by iana Peter: rabbit hole. Avoid it form the start. Jordan: for some it was the first time you walked through this doc. To do: make introductory paragraph. Action item #2: Working group members to read the following documents by the next meeting, and to add any comments they may have: * Overview of Policies and Guidance relevant to ccTLDs * Identified GAPs from IANA perspective<https://docs.google.com/document/d/15D2j805FMomv0Hl7pn39D3S3_DbBAJYpeq8d1kY…> Jordan: Treat it as a resource for us to use. It is a working doc for us. Between now and November, we need to be careful that we are comfortable with the content and that it is up to date, before we share it with the community. 6. PGA Workplan Agenda item 5: proposed PGA workplan https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KLwT8OSYHnHf-bRHfZuAW15cKIx6vthA_W36g5t… Jordan is hoping for Kim to be available. IANA gaps list, and prioritisation. What are the most important gaps? Were they listed in priority order? Kim: roughly ordered, but yes. I will need to clarify it is a not a conflict for me, will be in Colombia Jordan: if needed, we will shift the order. Jordan speaks to the proposed workplan. 90 min block at ICANN 81 Here is the draft ccnso block schedule for ICANN81: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=351404066 Saturday morning, block 2: working group meets Tuesday afternoon, block 4: update to community as part of the ccNSO members meeting Nick: likes the workplan. ccPDP4 Caucus of the ICANN Board had 40plus questions regarding implementation. When we come up with restatements of existing policies, we need to learn from that experience. Disconnect. Huge amount of extra work. Great drain on the limited amount of volunteer time. Could we move in parallel with a quasi board caucus? Before the ccnso vote? Do the people we deliver the policy to, is it fit for purpose? Jordan: agree with the problem with the problem you identified. Council to examine how to avoid it from happening again. Look at how the GNSO writes its policies. ICANN system is used to that. Engaging with legal, with iana. Whatever we do, we want a collaborative relationship with icann. Use all resources. To avoid the situation we are in now Irina: regarding the suggested workplan. The first task for the WG as per its charter is to complete the overview of the policies and guidance at ICANN. What are we goign to present? Doc from item 5? Or a consolidation doc as discussed by small team Jordan: the doc we ran through today would be the doc. If we decide to do a consolidation, and identify there is a gap … just create a resource where people can find the info. Not write new content. There is no time. Peter: phase 1 of the work in this group. Once council adopts the output of the work of this group. At icann 81, or the meeting after that, the group comes to a close? Jordan: yes, in narrow sense. Phase 2: starting work on the gaps. 7. AOB none 8. Closure and next meeting 24 September 2024, 4 UTC Background materials * Doc library: https://community.icann.org/display/ccnsowkspc/Background+Material * All materials will be posted on the PGA WG workspace. See https://community.icann.org/display/ccnsowkspc/PGA+WG+-+10+September+2024+a… Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>

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Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 10 September 2024 at 20:00 UTC
by Claudia Ruiz Sept. 10, 2024

Sept. 10, 2024

***Starting in 30 Mins*** Dear all, The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 10 September 2024 at 20:00 UTC. An agenda will be circulated prior to the call. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/95343564290?pwd=s4XExjPzsgl74t9I5pbfc7LzT5oWNS.1 Meeting ID: 953 4356 4290 Passcode: PGAWG#2024 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/VQEiFg

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Proposed agenda | PGA WG on Tuesday, 10 September at 20 UTC
by Joke Braeken Sept. 10, 2024

Sept. 10, 2024

Dear All, The next PGA WG meeting will be held on Tuesday, 10 September 2024 at 20:00 UTC. Proposed agenda 1. Welcome 2. Administrative matters a) SOI updates b) Nomination Chair and Vice Chair: confirmation and next steps * Decision meeting rotation from next meeting onwards Suggestion: 4 UTC, noon UTC, 20 UTC 1. Previous meeting: questions or comments regarding the intro to PGA WG work? 2. Overview of Policies and Guidance relevant to ccTLDs 1. PGA Workplan 2. AOB 3. Closure and next meeting 24 September 2024 (time TBC) Background materials * Agenda item 3. Timezone distribution PGA members https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=9&day=10&year… * Agenda item 4: overview policies and guidance relevant to ccTLDs https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jp2WLD6ZfF1nVY3p0xSNkCeo1E4fKIdL/edit?u… * Agenda item 5: proposed PGA workplan https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KLwT8OSYHnHf-bRHfZuAW15cKIx6vthA_W36g5t… * Doc library: https://community.icann.org/display/ccnsowkspc/Background+Material * Notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14ClU_aKgQpg7MHpX7NfcB3IIlWnQCGyKkOpo2M8… All materials will be posted on the PGA WG workspace. See https://community.icann.org/display/ccnsowkspc/PGA+WG+-+10+September+2024+a… Best regards, Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org>

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Apology Noted / Re: REMINDER | Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 10 September 2024 at 20:00 UTC
by Claudia Ruiz Sept. 10, 2024

Sept. 10, 2024

Dear Abdalmonem, Thank you for letting us know, your apology has been noted. Safe travels. Best regards, Claudia From: Abdalmonem Galila via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 12:01 AM To: Claudia Ruiz via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg(a)icann.org> Cc: Abdalmonem Galila <atharwat(a)tra.gov.eg> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Re: REMINDER | Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 10 September 2024 at 20:00 UTC Hello Claudia, could you accept my apology as I will be on-travel. Have a nice days. Thanks a lot. All the Best, Abdalmonem Galila Manager , Numbering Planning, Market Governance Sector. EX : MCIT , IBM, Java Innovations [NTRA Logo 2016] National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523405_telephone] Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582<tel:02%2035341582> - +2 02 35341300<tel:02%2035341300> [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Mobile] Mobile: +2 010 00049068<tel:010%2000049068> [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: ICON] Fax : +2 02 35370537<tel:02%2035370537> [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: oNLINE] Website : http:\\www.mcit.gov.eg [mcit.gov.eg]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.mcit.gov.eg/__;!!PtGJab4!8zREOOYzkcM7…> : http:\\www.tra.gov.eg [mcit.gov.eg]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.mcit.gov.eg/__;!!PtGJab4!8zREOOYzkcM7…> [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523294_email] E-mail : agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg<mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg> : atharwat(a)tra.gov.eg<mailto:atharwat@tra.gov.eg> [Description: 1447802547_skype] Skype : abdalmonem.galila [Description: static_qr_code_without_logo] [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523469_error]DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your system support manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the National Telecom Regulatory Authority (NTRA) . Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The NTRA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. [Untitled2]SAVE A TREE! Please Don’t Print This E-Mail Unless You Really Need To From: Claudia Ruiz via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg(a)icann.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2024 8:30 AM To: ccNSO-PGAWG(a)icann.org Cc: Claudia Ruiz <claudia.ruiz(a)icann.org> Subject: [External] [Ccnso-pgawg] REMINDER | Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 10 September 2024 at 20:00 UTC Dear all, As a reminder, the next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 10 September 2024 at 20:00 UTC. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/95343564290?pwd=s4XExjPzsgl74t9I5pbfc7LzT5oWNS.1 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/95343564290?pwd=s4XExjPz…> Meeting ID: 953 4356 4290 Passcode: PGAWG#2024 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/VQEiFg

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