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Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 29 April 2025 at 17:00 UTC
by ccNSO Calendar March 27, 2025

March 27, 2025

Dear all, The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 29 April 2025 at 17:00 UTC. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/99469798225?pwd=oeaBwjejJQOFVQorMZmP6gwbUXDFXT.1 Meeting ID: 994 6979 8225 Passcode: PGAWG#0123 Wiki: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/w4H0Cg?atlOrigin=eyJpIjoiZTY1Z… Thank you!

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Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 15 April 2025 at 15:00 UTC
by ccNSO Calendar March 27, 2025

March 27, 2025

Dear all, The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 15 April 2025 at 15:00 UTC. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/99469798225?pwd=oeaBwjejJQOFVQorMZmP6gwbUXDFXT.1 Meeting ID: 994 6979 8225 Passcode: PGAWG#0123 Wiki: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/B4H7Cg?atlOrigin=eyJpIjoiZjQ2Y… Thank you!

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Re: Slides for tomorrow’s ccNSO member meeting
by Stephen Deerhake ＠ ASNIC March 11, 2025

March 11, 2025

Slide 8: Did I get sacked from the WG? From: Jordan Carter via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, March 10, 2025 at 11:39 To: Bart Boswinkel via Ccnso-pgawg <ccnso-pgawg(a)icann.org> Cc: Jordan Carter <jordan.carter(a)auda.org.au> Subject: [Ccnso-pgawg] Slides for tomorrow’s ccNSO member meeting Hi all Draft slides attached - sorry so late! If you see an error please say so by return email to the list, so that it can get picked up by me or our secretariat staff... See you all tomorrow, online or in the room :) Cheers Jordan Jordan Carter — .au Domain Administration +61-417-243-647 on Signal or iMessage

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Slides for tomorrow’s ccNSO member meeting
by Jordan Carter March 11, 2025

March 11, 2025

Hi all Draft slides attached - sorry so late! If you see an error please say so by return email to the list, so that it can get picked up by me or our secretariat staff... See you all tomorrow, online or in the room :) Cheers Jordan Jordan Carter — .au Domain Administration +61-417-243-647 on Signal or iMessage

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NOTES ICANN82 | Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG)
by Joke Braeken March 8, 2025

March 8, 2025

NOTES ICANN82 | Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) Saturday, 8 March 2025 09:00-10:00 local | 17:00-18:00 UTC Room 302 | https://sched.co/1vpY4 1. Welcome Welcome by Jordan Carter Vice chair joined online 2. Admin matters a. SOI updates Any updates? None 3. Second reading - prioritization of issues IANA list: rough order priority as per IANA Reflected on how to prioritise. Looking at the importance of the issues to ccTLDs. Also factored in the volume of work. Ordering mechanism via a survey was not successful due to language, and a few other issues. Assuming the council, after members feedback from members at the meeting, gives us the ok to proceed. Proposed priority: iana public records, followed by disaster recovery. There are no objective factors that determine the priorities. Careful scope required by chartering study groups Irina: I feel comfortable with the suggested priority. Not undertake more than 2 items at the same time. Jordan: agree. Not more than 2 study groups at the same time. No priority for the remaining issues Peter: remaining issues, no priority yet. Jordan: indeed. Some work needs to be done, but not clear yet when and what order Bart: the WG should advise council Nick: no comment regarding prioritisation. Do you know how long this will go on for? Pdp’s are multi-year processes. Is this more agile? Not 5 to 10 year processes. If there are 12 issues, which decade will we finish? Jordan: constraint will be the iana team, ccnso secretariat and the volunteers. Intention is to finish the study group within the year. Study group is lighter than the PDP process. Bart: recent examples. Last Study Group was the emoji Study Group. All are aware about the pressure on capacity. Pace of one meeting every month. Could be increased. As a result of the council discussions, turn this into bite-sized chipmunks. What PGA is doing is a good example/ Jordan: outcomes are an analysis around the issues, and a recommendation on the next steps. Nick: assume the SG would have delivered their recommendations by ICANN85. What are the steps after that? Does it need to go to the icann board? Does it need to go through implementation? Jordan: hard to tell. If the conclusion is a set of recommendations for iana, or a PDP … it depends. Not up to us to recommend the work method of the follow-up items. Fan of a closed-out date. Abdalmonem: disaster recovery. One of the cctlds might be down. Reassign to new organisation. Reassignation is one of the arms or methods used by disaster recovery Jordan: iana root zone database. Not about the zonefile Jordan: confirm the 2 issues as top priorities in the order presented. We will test this with the community further on in this icann meeting Jordan: whether DNS abuse is a topic. See agenda item 4. Question by Jofan in the chat. We have not considered this to be a policy gap. Policies on how iana deals with cctld delegation. Anything that affects registration or use of domains is out of scope for this group. Dns abuse is out of scope. Anyone disagree? No 4. Additional gaps Bart: stephen raised the point during the last call. No Review Mechanism in place, but retirement is in place. Chris: there is a RM, the IRP. it is not a gap. There is just not the RM developed by us Peter: agree with Peter. It is an implementation gap. It is not about the connection between the 2 policies. The policy has not yet been approved by the board. Needs to be dealt with at a different venue Jordan: stephen is not attending Abdalmonem: email address of a representative. Admin-c. Unique for all ? admin@ and then cctld manager website. Would make things easier. Avoid needing to go through iana DB. Kim D: thanks for raising the issue. The other topic we consider is: what is the purpose of the public record? Hope to have clarity on why we have a public record. Jordan: the iana public record item is a consolidation of 3 issues. * Why do you collect info and publish it? * Accuracy of the data in the records? * Compliance regime that is in place around those Jordan: if required, Stephen could clarify his suggestion at the next meeting. Bart: what will be the next steps of this group? This group is mandated until ICANN82. My advise would be to close the topic, seen the feedback from the group. Otherwise the process will be prolonged again, and this needs to be moved to council. 5. PGA at ICANN82 a. What to present to the community? Tuesday, 11 March | 16:30-17:30 local (UTC -7) Work to date Seek community comments regarding the priorities and next steps b. What to present to the GAC? Wednesday, 12 March | 10:30-12:00 local (UTC -7) We want GAC to be aware. Work since ICANN 81, and the 2 proposed priorities. Bart: 9 november. Advise council to maintain. Jordan; yes. Overview of all policies, procedures, guidance etc. 6. Consolidated Overview Applicable policies Jordan: this is about work the group looked at. Is the fragmentation an issue? Not just guidance on where to find it, but have literally one single doc. Bart and I started to do sth Bart: do you want to continue on that item? Was part of your mandate, but this group has not discussed yet. Open item Jordan: is this a piece of work we should continue with? Administrative process. Restatement of the current policy. Not a PDP to re-open the policy. Irina: we should not. Sounds like a nice thing to have in one place. I see 2 risks: * Hard to avoid interpretation * Job that you and Bart attempted, was good, but demonstrated that we will have 50 to 100 pages doc. Hard to read. Suggestion to stop there. Chris: i agree. The FOI tries to provide an interpretation. If the outcomes of the SG is enough incentive to do so, then start. But not now Peter: i understand the motivation. Administrative task. If in doubt, the historic documents would prevail. Not much of a gain. Ensure people understand the historic context. But do not touch the documents. Leave it as it is. There is a lot of precedence in these docs. Jordan: agree. The group seems to agree not to pursue that item. No need for a second reading. 7. Next steps Jordan: work plan? Bart: we covered it all. Consultation with community here at icann 81, and then inform council. Recommend the actions. And then close the WG. Jordan: i would like one more meeting. Retrospective on the process. Should this group review the draft of ToR for the study groups? Bart: council can do that. 2-page recommendation. Including proper scoping of ToR. I advise 2 meetings: use the first meeting to run through the draft report prepared by leadership and council. And then have a second reading. Jordan: ccNSO WG chartered in July, started in August, and wrap-up in April Irina: reminder to review feedback from ccnso members meeting. Jordan: also discuss process to report additional gaps, if any 8. AOB none 9. Closure Thank you all. Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Read more about the ccNSO at ICANN82: https://bit.ly/4h4E8Ot

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ICANN82 PGA | proposed agenda
by Joke Braeken March 8, 2025

March 8, 2025

Dear All, The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) meeting will be held at ICANN82, on Saturday, 8 March 2025. 09:00-10:00 local | 17:00-18:00 UTC Room 302 | https://sched.co/1vpY4 Agenda 1. Welcome 2. Admin matters * SOI updates 1. Second reading - prioritization of issues 2. Additional gaps 3. PGA at ICANN82 * What to present to the community? Tuesday, 11 March | 16:30-17:30 local (UTC -7) * What to present to the GAC? Wednesday, 12 March | 10:30-12:00 local (UTC -7) 1. Consolidated Overview Applicable policies 2. Next steps 3. AOB 4. Closure Best regards, Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Read more about the ccNSO at ICANN82: https://bit.ly/4h4E8Ot

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NOTES | PGA WG | 4 March 2025
by Joke Braeken March 4, 2025

March 4, 2025

NOTES | PGA WG | 4 March 2025 1. Welcome and roll call Welcome by Maria 2. Administrative matters a. SoI Any updates? None Fill out the ccNSO Statement of Interest form: https://forms.gle/79Jw4wSnNhn5W4Z46 . Once processed by the Secretariat, you can check your SOI here: https://community.icann.org/x/doAFEgRead here the ccNSO SOI Guideline: https://ccnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/field-attached/ccnso-internal-p… b. Update Workplan For discussion during the PGA work session over the weekend Group might need to meet one or 2 meetings after ICANN82. Report to council https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OOP7lbO9xfoyz09zn1SPBUpEZU5NLmtcgZeyQD-… 3. First reading updated proposal priorities Please check the document before the meeting. If you have any comments make observations in suggestion mode. Proposed priority items for study group - First Reading (for 4 March 2025 PGA-WG meeting) <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OOP7lbO9xfoyz09zn1SPBUpEZU5NLmtcgZeyQD-…> Stephen: ccPDP3. ccTLD subject to a retirement effort. But there is no review mechanism in place. Due to board inaction. That is not fair to ccTLDs. Bart: sth for further discussion. Peter: i will respond to Stephen in Seattle. The iana contract is sth we might want to look at. We need to start somewhere. No optimal order to address this. This looks like low hanging fruit, and contained or scoped problem statement. Nonetheless it would be good not to pre-empt anything that would be a potential result from the broader scope questions Bart; what is meant by that? Peter: since this is low hanging fruit, there is high hanging fruit Bart: to avoid misunderstanding. The low hanging fruit is only disaster recovery. The first topic is definitely not low hanging fruit. To avoid misunderstanding. Peter: there was significant confusion on the order in the survey. These are our testing cases. They are rather scoped in a way. The plea is to make sure that we do not bind ourselves by outcomes that might bite back when we go to the broader issues Bart: suggest. There is an understanding that - see intro part, groupings of issues - you already see a broader description. Summary of the work done by the group to date on the mentimeter polling and discussions. Before we do anything, the WG need to be chartered properly. Clear identifiable deliverables to manage the work. Peter: Council can take that into consideration Bart: they have to. Otherwise overload. Green marks. Prioritisation item on agenda is now completed. 4. Additional Topics for Gap Analysis? Bart: see gap suggested by Stephen No further suggestions. Bart: we will add it for discussion during the working session in Seattle. If anybody has additional gaps, please send them to the PGA mailing list 5. In-person meeting topics: a. Final reading prioritization b. Additional gaps (added) c. What to present to the community? d. What to present to the GAC e. Consolidated Overview Applicable policies f. Next steps 6. Next meeting PGA work session Saturday, 8 March 2025 | 09:00-10:00 local (-8 UTC) Community update Tuesday, 11 March | 16:30-17:30 local (UTC -7) Update GAC Wednesday, 12 March | 10:30-12:00 local (UTC -7) Group will meet again post ICANN82, probably resuming end March 7. AOB none 8. Adjourn Bey all Joke Braeken joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Read more about the ccNSO at ICANN82: https://bit.ly/4h4E8Ot

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Policy Gap Analysis Working Group (PGA WG) | 03 March 2025 at 20:00 UTC
by Claudia Ruiz March 4, 2025

March 4, 2025

***REMINDER*** Dear all, The next Policy Gap Analysis Working Group teleconference is scheduled for 04 March 2025 at 20:00 UTC. Please find the call details below: Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/99469798225?pwd=oeaBwjejJQOFVQorMZmP6gwbUXDFXT.1 Meeting ID: 994 6979 8225 Passcode: PGAWG#0123 Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/FgCxG Thank you!

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Draft Agenda PGA WG 04 March 2025 | PGA-WG Doc – Issues and Analysis for WG
by Claudia Ruiz March 3, 2025

March 3, 2025

Dear all, In preparation for our call Tuesday, 04 March at 20:00 UTC, please take a look at the attached agenda. Also, please take a look at the PGA-WG Doc – Issues and Analysis for WG<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OOP7lbO9xfoyz09zn1SPBUpEZU5NLmtcgZeyQD-…>. At the bottom of the doc is the Proposed priority items for study group – Frist reading, this will be discussed on our call on Tuesday. Thank you. Best regards, Claudia Ruiz

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