Agenda and documents for next WG call
Dear WG members, With apologies for the slight delay, here is the proposed agenda for our next WG call, scheduled for Wednesday 29 April 2015 at 1600 UTC: 1. Roll call/updates to SOI 2. Summary of GAC advice to ICANN Board concerning protections for IGO names and acronyms (see attached) 3. Review status of GNSO work concerning preventative and curative rights protections for IGO names and acronyms (staff to update) 4. Discuss merits and disadvantages of amending existing dispute resolution processes compared to developing a new and separate procedure (based on WG discussions from prior meetings) 5. Next steps/next meeting Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
Respectfully, I don't think in #4 that those are the 2 choices before this PDP at this stage? Another option, perhaps the leading one, includes "making no changes at all" to existing DRPs, and instead focus on education, which might be a very legitimate finding "based on WG discussions from prior meetings". Although, I suppose "making no changes at all" might be considered as a (very uninteresting) subset of "amending existing processes" --- i.e. in no way amending them. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/ On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear WG members,
With apologies for the slight delay, here is the proposed agenda for our next WG call, scheduled for Wednesday 29 April 2015 at 1600 UTC:
Roll call/updates to SOI Summary of GAC advice to ICANN Board concerning protections for IGO names and acronyms (see attached) Review status of GNSO work concerning preventative and curative rights protections for IGO names and acronyms (staff to update) Discuss merits and disadvantages of amending existing dispute resolution processes compared to developing a new and separate procedure (based on WG discussions from prior meetings) Next steps/next meeting
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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Dear All, What we have discussed on several meetings is also ”Considering and explaining other possibilities”. That is in fact a way to formulate - if such - our conclusion that there may not be any needs for amending UDRP or creating a new dispute resolution policy, but rather to create and add some formal clarifications. Seems that we have a good ground for discussion later on today. Best,Petter -- Petter Rindforth, LL M Fenix Legal KB Stureplan 4c, 4tr 114 35 Stockholm Sweden Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 E-mail: petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu www.fenixlegal.eu NOTICE This e-mail message is intended solely for the individual or individuals to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential attorney-client privileged information and attorney work product. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are requested not to read, copy or distribute it or any of the information it contains. Please delete it immediately and notify us by return e-mail. Fenix Legal KB, Sweden, www.fenixlegal.eu Thank you 28 april 2015, George Kirikos <icann@leap.com> skrev:
Respectfully, I don't think in #4 that those are the 2 choices before this PDP at this stage? Another option, perhaps the leading one, includes "making no changes at all" to existing DRPs, and instead focus on education, which might be a very legitimate finding "based on WG discussions from prior meetings".
Although, I suppose "making no changes at all" might be considered as a (very uninteresting) subset of "amending existing processes" --- i.e. in no way amending them.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos 416-588-0269 <http://www.leap.com/>
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Mary Wong <<mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Dear WG members,
With apologies for the slight delay, here is the proposed agenda for our next WG call, scheduled for Wednesday 29 April 2015 at 1600 UTC:
Roll call/updates to SOI Summary of GAC advice to ICANN Board concerning protections for IGO names and acronyms (see attached) Review status of GNSO work concerning preventative and curative rights protections for IGO names and acronyms (staff to update) Discuss merits and disadvantages of amending existing dispute resolution processes compared to developing a new and separate procedure (based on WG discussions from prior meetings) Next steps/next meeting
Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: <mary.wong@icann.org>
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I do not believe #4 Is correct. The Options are not LIMITED to amending or creating a new system. It also includes issuing a report confirming that no changes are warranted. As I have said previously I am not in favor of either amending the current UDRP or creating a new system. I have remained open to any reasoning supporting either but have seen no evidence supporting the desirability or need for a change. I have found it particularly telling that no NGO or INGO has come forward to date although the WG has certainly been pro active in reaching out. Sincerely, Paul Keating, Esq.
On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear WG members,
With apologies for the slight delay, here is the proposed agenda for our next WG call, scheduled for Wednesday 29 April 2015 at 1600 UTC: Roll call/updates to SOI Summary of GAC advice to ICANN Board concerning protections for IGO names and acronyms (see attached) Review status of GNSO work concerning preventative and curative rights protections for IGO names and acronyms (staff to update) Discuss merits and disadvantages of amending existing dispute resolution processes compared to developing a new and separate procedure (based on WG discussions from prior meetings) Next steps/next meeting Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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Thanks for the feedback, George and Paul I¹d like to assure the WG that the co-chairs and staff have no intention of limiting the options or discussions of the WG. Despite, therefore, my somewhat clumsy formulation of the wording for Agenda Item #4, it is certainly entirely appropriate and timely to discuss the possibility of ³no amendment or new process² as well as George¹s point regarding education at that point in the meeting. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org From: Paul Keating <paul@law.es> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 14:27 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and documents for next WG call
I do not believe #4 Is correct. The Options are not LIMITED to amending or creating a new system. It also includes issuing a report confirming that no changes are warranted.
As I have said previously I am not in favor of either amending the current UDRP or creating a new system. I have remained open to any reasoning supporting either but have seen no evidence supporting the desirability or need for a change. I have found it particularly telling that no NGO or INGO has come forward to date although the WG has certainly been pro active in reaching out.
Sincerely, Paul Keating, Esq.
On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear WG members,
With apologies for the slight delay, here is the proposed agenda for our next WG call, scheduled for Wednesday 29 April 2015 at 1600 UTC: 1. Roll call/updates to SOI 2. Summary of GAC advice to ICANN Board concerning protections for IGO names and acronyms (see attached) 3. Review status of GNSO work concerning preventative and curative rights protections for IGO names and acronyms (staff to update) 4. Discuss merits and disadvantages of amending existing dispute resolution processes compared to developing a new and separate procedure (based on WG discussions from prior meetings) 5. Next steps/next meeting Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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Thank you Mary. Can you please update the agenda to add this as an Agenda item? That way the historical record remains clear. Sincerely, Paul Keating, Esq.
On Apr 28, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, George and Paul – I’d like to assure the WG that the co-chairs and staff have no intention of limiting the options or discussions of the WG. Despite, therefore, my somewhat clumsy formulation of the wording for Agenda Item #4, it is certainly entirely appropriate and timely to discuss the possibility of “no amendment or new process” as well as George’s point regarding education at that point in the meeting.
Cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
From: Paul Keating <paul@law.es> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 14:27 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and documents for next WG call
I do not believe #4 Is correct. The Options are not LIMITED to amending or creating a new system. It also includes issuing a report confirming that no changes are warranted.
As I have said previously I am not in favor of either amending the current UDRP or creating a new system. I have remained open to any reasoning supporting either but have seen no evidence supporting the desirability or need for a change. I have found it particularly telling that no NGO or INGO has come forward to date although the WG has certainly been pro active in reaching out.
Sincerely, Paul Keating, Esq.
On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear WG members,
With apologies for the slight delay, here is the proposed agenda for our next WG call, scheduled for Wednesday 29 April 2015 at 1600 UTC: Roll call/updates to SOI Summary of GAC advice to ICANN Board concerning protections for IGO names and acronyms (see attached) Review status of GNSO work concerning preventative and curative rights protections for IGO names and acronyms (staff to update) Discuss merits and disadvantages of amending existing dispute resolution processes compared to developing a new and separate procedure (based on WG discussions from prior meetings) Next steps/next meeting Thanks and cheers Mary
Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong@icann.org
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Petter Rindforth