Hi Wolf-Ulrich, thanks for the proposal, we need to discuss about it because we don't share the same opinion about the process agreed on 2011. Just to be clear, you are submitting (in the attached document), another proposal for future elections? as first remarks, I observe that is not a simple process. for nomination, since we didn't have an agreement on the date, we will nominate candidates in the next days and then the cut date is extended. btw who are the 3 representatives from CSG ? Best, Rafik 2014-03-18 5:49 GMT+09:00 WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>:
Dear Rafik,
On behalf of the Constituencies of the Commercial Stakeholder Group we suggest the following steps to fill board seat 14:
- nomination of candidate(s) per SG
- forward the nominations to the GNSO secretariat *today*
- the election process *for this time* should follow the 2011 agreed process (8 affirmative votes needed for the candidate selection)
A draft proposal for future election process is attached. Discussion on NCPH level should start immediately, and the three named representatives, or designated alternatives who will be in Singapore will act as intermediaries to finalize a mutually agreed election process.
The CSG will make a nomination today but understands that the NCSG may propose other steps and looks forward to further discussions regarding the election process.
With best regards
Kristina Rosette, CSG/IPC Marilyn Cade, CSG/BC Wolf-Ulrich Knoben, CSG/ISPCP
*From:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 12:49 PM *To:* WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> *Cc:* gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
well, I would like to hear CSG proposals before. we discussed several approaches but there was no feedback from your side.
Rafik
2014-03-17 20:30 GMT+09:00 WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>:
What would be the NCSG’s preference for the nomination approach?
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 12:06 PM *To:* mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de<wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> *Cc:* gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi Wold-Ulrich,
Simple :because we didnt agree on how nomination will happen. If it is "open field" or by SG or any other approach.
I dont see how we can start nomination before even how the process is designed.
More concerning, no clear reaction from CSG leaders about the whole process till now .
Best,
Rafik On Mar 17, 2014 8:01 PM, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> wrote:
Hi Rafik,
I’d like to understand why a *nomination* of candidates could not be done today. Let’s put forward the names of the candidates the NCSG and the CSG have in mind. The follow-up election process can be determined separately.
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:31 PM *To:* Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> *Cc:* gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
hi Mikey,
I dont think that we agreed yet. Avri was talking about what we had for previous election.
even if we follow such process, I don't see how we can candidates by Monday.
Best,
Rafik
2014-03-14 22:27 GMT+09:00 Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com>:
works for me. it would be nice to have candidates named by Monday.
mikey
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote:
“same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case?
This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago.
The Board seat election worked just fine.
There were two candidates one from each SG.
ballot 1: 6:7 ballot 2: 8:5
Winner declared.
Ballots were secret.
Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat)
secret.
The method worked fine.
avri
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