Hi Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…? BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to… thanks, Bill *********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
Dear Bill, Please find the list of people subscribed to the GNSO-NCPH-Leadership mailing list. Please let me know who else should be subscribed. For all the GNSO mailing lists, the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator to protect the privacy of email addresses. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen . Amr Elsadr . Avri Doria . Bill Graham . Brian Winterfeldt . Dan Reed . David Cake . Elisa Cooper . Gabriela Szlak . John Berard . Jennifer Wolfe . Klaus Stoll . Kristina Rosette . Lori Schulman . Magaly Pazello . Maria Farrell . Mikey O'Connor . Marie-Laure Lemineur . Milton Mueller . Osvaldo Novoa . Petter Rindforth . Rafik Dammak . Robin Gross . Tony AR Holmes . William J. Drake . Wolf-Ulrich Knoben Secretariat staff: Gisella Gruber Glen de Saint Géry Nathalie Peregrine De : gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] De la part de William Drake Envoyé : dimanche 9 mars 2014 10:49 À : gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Objet : [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? Hi Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there's interest.? BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we're talking to. thanks, Bill *********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
hi Bill, i’d be interested in a gathering, formal or informal, as well. mikey On Mar 9, 2014, at 4:48 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
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Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? Hi Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there's interest...? BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we're talking to... thanks, Bill *********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org<http://www.ncuc.org> william.drake@uzh.ch<mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com<mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com> (lists), www.williamdrake.org<http://www.williamdrake.org> ***********************************************
That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…? BD On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks?
Best, Elisa
Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters
Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency
208 389-5779 PH
From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
*********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
Sure - I'd be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That's a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn't Tuesday after CD be better, there's no music night...? BD On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com<mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote: Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? Hi Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there's interest...? BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we're talking to... thanks, Bill *********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org<http://www.ncuc.org/> william.drake@uzh.ch<mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com<mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com> (lists), www.williamdrake.org<http://www.williamdrake.org/> ***********************************************
Hi I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It We could just show up and try to take over City Space http://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/ on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged... It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space. Bill On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that.
Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening?
Best, Elisa
From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks?
Best, Elisa
Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters
Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency
208 389-5779 PH
From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
*********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
*********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
hi, i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space. On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It
We could just show up and try to take over City Space http://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/ on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged...
It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space.
Bill
On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that.
Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening?
Best, Elisa
From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks?
Best, Elisa
Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters
Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency
208 389-5779 PH
From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
Sounds great. From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM To: William Drake Cc: Elisa Cooper; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi, i'm fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space. On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com<mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It We could just show up and try to take over City Space http://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/ on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that...but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged... It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space. Bill On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com<mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote: Sure - I'd be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That's a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn't Tuesday after CD be better, there's no music night...? BD On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com<mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote: Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? Hi Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there's interest...? BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we're talking to... thanks, Bill
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn’t get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-) On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sounds great.
From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM To: William Drake Cc: Elisa Cooper; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
hi,
i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It
We could just show up and try to take over City Space http://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/ on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged...
It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space.
Bill
On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that.
Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening?
Best, Elisa
From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks?
Best, Elisa
Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters
Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency
208 389-5779 PH
From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
*********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
Hi, Always good to oblige the Ombudsman and go to his Drinks. And he has helped us over the hump before, who knows, we may need his assistance again some day. avri On 11-Mar-14 12:16, William Drake wrote:
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn’t get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-)
On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sounds great. *From:*Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] *Sent:*Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM *To:*William Drake *Cc:*Elisa Cooper;gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi, i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space. On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It We could just show up and try to take over City Spacehttp://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged... It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space. Bill On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa *From:*William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] *Sent:*Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM *To:*Elisa Cooper *Cc:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH *From:*gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org>[mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org]*On Behalf Of*William Drake *Sent:*Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM *To:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*[Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
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sounds good to me. On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
Always good to oblige the Ombudsman and go to his Drinks. And he has helped us over the hump before, who knows, we may need his assistance again some day.
avri
On 11-Mar-14 12:16, William Drake wrote:
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn’t get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-)
On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sounds great. *From:*Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] *Sent:*Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM *To:*William Drake *Cc:*Elisa Cooper;gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi, i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space. On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It We could just show up and try to take over City Spacehttp://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged... It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space. Bill On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa *From:*William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] *Sent:*Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM *To:*Elisa Cooper *Cc:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH *From:*gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org>[mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org]*On Behalf Of*William Drake *Sent:*Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM *To:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*[Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
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Hi Just wanted to get clear if NCPH still intends to meet at the Ombudsman reception 5pm Tuesday. Chris seemed happy when I mentioned we might. But I see now mail from Glen saying there is a GNSO Constit/SG interaction Cocktail in Sophia 19:00-20:00 as well. Do both or just the latter, which I assume will be both ‘houses'? Bill On Mar 12, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> wrote:
sounds good to me.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
Always good to oblige the Ombudsman and go to his Drinks. And he has helped us over the hump before, who knows, we may need his assistance again some day.
avri
On 11-Mar-14 12:16, William Drake wrote:
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn’t get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-)
On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sounds great. *From:*Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] *Sent:*Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM *To:*William Drake *Cc:*Elisa Cooper;gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi, i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space. On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It We could just show up and try to take over City Spacehttp://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged... It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space. Bill On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa *From:*William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] *Sent:*Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM *To:*Elisa Cooper *Cc:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH *From:*gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org>[mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org]*On Behalf Of*William Drake *Sent:*Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM *To:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*[Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
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I would be happy to do both. Best, Elisa Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:50 AM, "William Drake" <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Just wanted to get clear if NCPH still intends to meet at the Ombudsman reception 5pm Tuesday. Chris seemed happy when I mentioned we might. But I see now mail from Glen saying there is a GNSO Constit/SG interaction Cocktail in Sophia 19:00-20:00 as well. Do both or just the latter, which I assume will be both ‘houses'?
Bill
On Mar 12, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> wrote:
sounds good to me.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
Always good to oblige the Ombudsman and go to his Drinks. And he has helped us over the hump before, who knows, we may need his assistance again some day.
avri
On 11-Mar-14 12:16, William Drake wrote:
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn’t get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-)
On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sounds great. *From:*Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] *Sent:*Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM *To:*William Drake *Cc:*Elisa Cooper;gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi, i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space. On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It We could just show up and try to take over City Spacehttp://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged... It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space. Bill On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa *From:*William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] *Sent:*Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM *To:*Elisa Cooper *Cc:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH *From:*gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org>[mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org]*On Behalf Of*William Drake *Sent:*Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM *To:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*[Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
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The latter for me. I have a conflict with the timing of the Ombudsman reception. -----Original Message----- From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Elisa Cooper Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:58 PM To: William Drake Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? I would be happy to do both. Best, Elisa Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:50 AM, "William Drake" <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Just wanted to get clear if NCPH still intends to meet at the Ombudsman reception 5pm Tuesday. Chris seemed happy when I mentioned we might. But I see now mail from Glen saying there is a GNSO Constit/SG interaction Cocktail in Sophia 19:00-20:00 as well. Do both or just the latter, which I assume will be both 'houses'?
Bill
On Mar 12, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> wrote:
sounds good to me.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
Always good to oblige the Ombudsman and go to his Drinks. And he has helped us over the hump before, who knows, we may need his assistance again some day.
avri
On 11-Mar-14 12:16, William Drake wrote:
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn't get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-)
On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sounds great. *From:*Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] *Sent:*Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM *To:*William Drake *Cc:*Elisa Cooper;gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi, i'm fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space. On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It We could just show up and try to take over City Spacehttp://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that...but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged... It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space. Bill On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sure - I'd be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa *From:*William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] *Sent:*Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM *To:*Elisa Cooper *Cc:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That's a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn't Tuesday after CD be better, there's no music night...?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH *From:*gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org>[mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org]*On Behalf Of*William Drake *Sent:*Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM *To:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*[Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there's interest...?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we're talking to...
thanks,
Bill
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Similar to Kristina, struggling with a couple of conflicts but will do my best to make both for a short time. Tony -----Original Message----- From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Rosette, Kristina Sent: 23 March 2014 02:00 To: Elisa Cooper; William Drake Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? The latter for me. I have a conflict with the timing of the Ombudsman reception. -----Original Message----- From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Elisa Cooper Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:58 PM To: William Drake Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? I would be happy to do both. Best, Elisa Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:50 AM, "William Drake" <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
Just wanted to get clear if NCPH still intends to meet at the Ombudsman reception 5pm Tuesday. Chris seemed happy when I mentioned we might. But I see now mail from Glen saying there is a GNSO Constit/SG interaction Cocktail in Sophia 19:00-20:00 as well. Do both or just the latter, which I assume will be both 'houses'?
Bill
On Mar 12, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> wrote:
sounds good to me.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
Always good to oblige the Ombudsman and go to his Drinks. And he has helped us over the hump before, who knows, we may need his assistance again some day.
avri
On 11-Mar-14 12:16, William Drake wrote:
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn't get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-)
On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sounds great. *From:*Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] *Sent:*Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM *To:*William Drake *Cc:*Elisa Cooper;gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi, i'm fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space. On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It We could just show up and try to take over City Spacehttp://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city- space/on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that...but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged... It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space. Bill On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sure - I'd be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa *From:*William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] *Sent:*Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM *To:*Elisa Cooper *Cc:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That's a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn't Tuesday after CD be better, there's no music night...?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH *From:*gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org>[mailto:gnso-ncph-l eadership-bounces@icann.org]*On Behalf Of*William Drake *Sent:*Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM *To:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*[Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there's interest...?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we're talking to...
thanks,
Bill
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Great idea! From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:17 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: Mike O'Connor; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn't get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-) On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com<mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote: Sounds great. From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM To: William Drake Cc: Elisa Cooper; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi, i'm fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space. On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com<mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It We could just show up and try to take over City Space http://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/ on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that...but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged... It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space. Bill On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com<mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote: Sure - I'd be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That's a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn't Tuesday after CD be better, there's no music night...? BD On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com<mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote: Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? Hi Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there's interest...? BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we're talking to... thanks, Bill *********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org<http://www.ncuc.org> william.drake@uzh.ch<mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com<mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com> (lists), www.williamdrake.org<http://www.williamdrake.org> ***********************************************
Ok then, we have no agreement on how to conduct an election, but we do agree on having a drink. Start with the low hanging fruit, as they say… :-) So ok, Ombuds Reception at 5pm Tuesday 25, and if that turns out not to suit us we can head upstairs to City Space. Done. Now about that election bit…? Bill On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Great idea!
From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:17 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: Mike O'Connor; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn’t get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-)
On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sounds great.
From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM To: William Drake Cc: Elisa Cooper; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
hi,
i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It
We could just show up and try to take over City Space http://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/ on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged...
It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space.
Bill
On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that.
Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening?
Best, Elisa
From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks?
Best, Elisa
Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters
Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency
208 389-5779 PH
From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
*********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
*********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
hi all, a journey begins with small steps. :-) i’ll accept part of the blame for the lack of progress on the election. i swung away from a lot of lists this week and some of the conversations got a bit stale as a result. and yes, we are starting to run out of daylight. i’m not included in the CSG leadership discussions, so i don’t know the state of play there. which brings me around to the question of who should be on *this* list - this experience is making me stronger in my belief that it would be helpful to make this a broad list rather than a narrow one. so another “small step” would be to include executive committee members of all the constituencies and stakeholder groups in the membership of this list. Bill, you and i had that exchange a while back. what say you? meanwhile, back at the election. i don’t exactly know where to go from here. i’m way outside my cozy little working-group comfort zone — because in that setting we’d just bash it out on the list and the calls. we’re taking some positive steps with this list and the drinks gathering, but the election conversation is perhaps Too Hard to fit in the “early steps” category and we’re struggling a bit. here are some options: “same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case? “wide open” — this is the opposite. lots of candidates, Councilors are released to vote as they see fit (although i for one would listen hard to my constituency). i think this is a stretch, given where we’re at right now. “figure it out in Singapore” — i’m not sure how well “dealing with this over drinks” would work, but it might. advantage: face-to-face. disadvantage: high risk of non-transparent process, puts a lot of pressure on an already-overloaded schedule. “something else”? mikey On Mar 14, 2014, at 5:03 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok then, we have no agreement on how to conduct an election, but we do agree on having a drink. Start with the low hanging fruit, as they say… :-)
So ok, Ombuds Reception at 5pm Tuesday 25, and if that turns out not to suit us we can head upstairs to City Space. Done.
Now about that election bit…?
Bill
On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Great idea!
From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:17 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: Mike O'Connor; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn’t get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-)
On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sounds great.
From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM To: William Drake Cc: Elisa Cooper; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
hi,
i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It
We could just show up and try to take over City Space http://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/ on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged...
It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space.
Bill
On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that.
Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening?
Best, Elisa
From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks?
Best, Elisa
Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters
Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency
208 389-5779 PH
From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
*********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
*********************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, ICANN, www.ncuc.org william.drake@uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake@gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org ***********************************************
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On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote:
“same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case?
This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago. The Board seat election worked just fine. There were two candidates one from each SG. ballot 1: 6:7 ballot 2: 8:5 Winner declared. Ballots were secret. Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat) secret. The method worked fine. avri
works for me. it would be nice to have candidates named by Monday. mikey On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote:
“same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case?
This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago.
The Board seat election worked just fine.
There were two candidates one from each SG.
ballot 1: 6:7 ballot 2: 8:5
Winner declared.
Ballots were secret.
Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat) secret.
The method worked fine.
avri
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hi Mikey, I dont think that we agreed yet. Avri was talking about what we had for previous election. even if we follow such process, I don't see how we can candidates by Monday. Best, Rafik 2014-03-14 22:27 GMT+09:00 Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com>:
works for me. it would be nice to have candidates named by Monday.
mikey
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote:
“same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case?
This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago.
The Board seat election worked just fine.
There were two candidates one from each SG.
ballot 1: 6:7 ballot 2: 8:5
Winner declared.
Ballots were secret.
Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat) secret.
The method worked fine.
avri
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Hi Rafik, I’d like to understand why a nomination of candidates could not be done today. Let’s put forward the names of the candidates the NCSG and the CSG have in mind. The follow-up election process can be determined separately. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Rafik Dammak Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:31 PM To: Mike O'Connor Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi Mikey, I dont think that we agreed yet. Avri was talking about what we had for previous election. even if we follow such process, I don't see how we can candidates by Monday. Best, Rafik 2014-03-14 22:27 GMT+09:00 Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com>: works for me. it would be nice to have candidates named by Monday. mikey On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote:
“same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case?
This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago.
The Board seat election worked just fine.
There were two candidates one from each SG.
ballot 1: 6:7 ballot 2: 8:5
Winner declared.
Ballots were secret.
Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat) secret.
The method worked fine.
avri
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Hi Wold-Ulrich, Simple :because we didnt agree on how nomination will happen. If it is "open field" or by SG or any other approach. I dont see how we can start nomination before even how the process is designed. More concerning, no clear reaction from CSG leaders about the whole process till now . Best, Rafik On Mar 17, 2014 8:01 PM, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> wrote:
Hi Rafik,
I’d like to understand why a *nomination* of candidates could not be done today. Let’s put forward the names of the candidates the NCSG and the CSG have in mind. The follow-up election process can be determined separately.
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:31 PM *To:* Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> *Cc:* gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
hi Mikey,
I dont think that we agreed yet. Avri was talking about what we had for previous election.
even if we follow such process, I don't see how we can candidates by Monday.
Best,
Rafik
2014-03-14 22:27 GMT+09:00 Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com>:
works for me. it would be nice to have candidates named by Monday.
mikey
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote:
“same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case?
This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago.
The Board seat election worked just fine.
There were two candidates one from each SG.
ballot 1: 6:7 ballot 2: 8:5
Winner declared.
Ballots were secret.
Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat) secret.
The method worked fine.
avri
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What would be the NCSG’s preference for the nomination approach? Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Rafik Dammak Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:06 PM To: mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? Hi Wold-Ulrich, Simple :because we didnt agree on how nomination will happen. If it is "open field" or by SG or any other approach. I dont see how we can start nomination before even how the process is designed. More concerning, no clear reaction from CSG leaders about the whole process till now . Best, Rafik On Mar 17, 2014 8:01 PM, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> wrote: Hi Rafik, I’d like to understand why a nomination of candidates could not be done today. Let’s put forward the names of the candidates the NCSG and the CSG have in mind. The follow-up election process can be determined separately. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Rafik Dammak Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:31 PM To: Mike O'Connor Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi Mikey, I dont think that we agreed yet. Avri was talking about what we had for previous election. even if we follow such process, I don't see how we can candidates by Monday. Best, Rafik 2014-03-14 22:27 GMT+09:00 Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com>: works for me. it would be nice to have candidates named by Monday. mikey On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote: > > > On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote: >> >> “same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per >> instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for >> mediation. treat this one as the default case? >> > > > This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago. > > The Board seat election worked just fine. > > There were two candidates one from each SG. > > ballot 1: 6:7 > ballot 2: 8:5 > > Winner declared. > > Ballots were secret. > > Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat) secret. > > The method worked fine. > > > avri > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ncph-leadership mailing list > Gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ncph-leadership PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.) _______________________________________________ Gnso-ncph-leadership mailing list Gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ncph-leadership ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Gnso-ncph-leadership mailing list Gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ncph-leadership
well, I would like to hear CSG proposals before. we discussed several approaches but there was no feedback from your side. Rafik 2014-03-17 20:30 GMT+09:00 WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>:
What would be the NCSG’s preference for the nomination approach?
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 12:06 PM *To:* mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de<wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> *Cc:* gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi Wold-Ulrich,
Simple :because we didnt agree on how nomination will happen. If it is "open field" or by SG or any other approach.
I dont see how we can start nomination before even how the process is designed.
More concerning, no clear reaction from CSG leaders about the whole process till now .
Best,
Rafik On Mar 17, 2014 8:01 PM, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> wrote:
Hi Rafik,
I’d like to understand why a *nomination* of candidates could not be done today. Let’s put forward the names of the candidates the NCSG and the CSG have in mind. The follow-up election process can be determined separately.
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:31 PM *To:* Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> *Cc:* gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
hi Mikey,
I dont think that we agreed yet. Avri was talking about what we had for previous election.
even if we follow such process, I don't see how we can candidates by Monday.
Best,
Rafik
2014-03-14 22:27 GMT+09:00 Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com>:
works for me. it would be nice to have candidates named by Monday.
mikey
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote:
“same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case?
This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago.
The Board seat election worked just fine.
There were two candidates one from each SG.
ballot 1: 6:7 ballot 2: 8:5
Winner declared.
Ballots were secret.
Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat)
secret.
The method worked fine.
avri
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Dear Rafik, On behalf of the Constituencies of the Commercial Stakeholder Group we suggest the following steps to fill board seat 14: - nomination of candidate(s) per SG - forward the nominations to the GNSO secretariat today - the election process for this time should follow the 2011 agreed process (8 affirmative votes needed for the candidate selection) A draft proposal for future election process is attached. Discussion on NCPH level should start immediately, and the three named representatives, or designated alternatives who will be in Singapore will act as intermediaries to finalize a mutually agreed election process. The CSG will make a nomination today but understands that the NCSG may propose other steps and looks forward to further discussions regarding the election process. With best regards Kristina Rosette, CSG/IPC Marilyn Cade, CSG/BC Wolf-Ulrich Knoben, CSG/ISPCP From: Rafik Dammak Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:49 PM To: WUKnoben Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? well, I would like to hear CSG proposals before. we discussed several approaches but there was no feedback from your side. Rafik 2014-03-17 20:30 GMT+09:00 WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>: What would be the NCSG’s preference for the nomination approach? Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Rafik Dammak Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 12:06 PM To: mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? Hi Wold-Ulrich, Simple :because we didnt agree on how nomination will happen. If it is "open field" or by SG or any other approach. I dont see how we can start nomination before even how the process is designed. More concerning, no clear reaction from CSG leaders about the whole process till now . Best, Rafik On Mar 17, 2014 8:01 PM, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> wrote: Hi Rafik, I’d like to understand why a nomination of candidates could not be done today. Let’s put forward the names of the candidates the NCSG and the CSG have in mind. The follow-up election process can be determined separately. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich From: Rafik Dammak Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:31 PM To: Mike O'Connor Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? hi Mikey, I dont think that we agreed yet. Avri was talking about what we had for previous election. even if we follow such process, I don't see how we can candidates by Monday. Best, Rafik 2014-03-14 22:27 GMT+09:00 Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com>: works for me. it would be nice to have candidates named by Monday. mikey On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote: > > > On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote: >> >> “same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per >> instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for >> mediation. treat this one as the default case? >> > > > This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago. > > The Board seat election worked just fine. > > There were two candidates one from each SG. > > ballot 1: 6:7 > ballot 2: 8:5 > > Winner declared. > > Ballots were secret. > > Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat) secret. > > The method worked fine. > > > avri > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-ncph-leadership mailing list > Gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ncph-leadership PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.) _______________________________________________ Gnso-ncph-leadership mailing list Gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ncph-leadership ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Gnso-ncph-leadership mailing list Gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ncph-leadership
Hi Wolf-Ulrich, thanks for the proposal, we need to discuss about it because we don't share the same opinion about the process agreed on 2011. Just to be clear, you are submitting (in the attached document), another proposal for future elections? as first remarks, I observe that is not a simple process. for nomination, since we didn't have an agreement on the date, we will nominate candidates in the next days and then the cut date is extended. btw who are the 3 representatives from CSG ? Best, Rafik 2014-03-18 5:49 GMT+09:00 WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>:
Dear Rafik,
On behalf of the Constituencies of the Commercial Stakeholder Group we suggest the following steps to fill board seat 14:
- nomination of candidate(s) per SG
- forward the nominations to the GNSO secretariat *today*
- the election process *for this time* should follow the 2011 agreed process (8 affirmative votes needed for the candidate selection)
A draft proposal for future election process is attached. Discussion on NCPH level should start immediately, and the three named representatives, or designated alternatives who will be in Singapore will act as intermediaries to finalize a mutually agreed election process.
The CSG will make a nomination today but understands that the NCSG may propose other steps and looks forward to further discussions regarding the election process.
With best regards
Kristina Rosette, CSG/IPC Marilyn Cade, CSG/BC Wolf-Ulrich Knoben, CSG/ISPCP
*From:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 12:49 PM *To:* WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> *Cc:* gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
well, I would like to hear CSG proposals before. we discussed several approaches but there was no feedback from your side.
Rafik
2014-03-17 20:30 GMT+09:00 WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de>:
What would be the NCSG’s preference for the nomination approach?
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 12:06 PM *To:* mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de<wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> *Cc:* gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi Wold-Ulrich,
Simple :because we didnt agree on how nomination will happen. If it is "open field" or by SG or any other approach.
I dont see how we can start nomination before even how the process is designed.
More concerning, no clear reaction from CSG leaders about the whole process till now .
Best,
Rafik On Mar 17, 2014 8:01 PM, "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de> wrote:
Hi Rafik,
I’d like to understand why a *nomination* of candidates could not be done today. Let’s put forward the names of the candidates the NCSG and the CSG have in mind. The follow-up election process can be determined separately.
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
*From:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 2:31 PM *To:* Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> *Cc:* gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
hi Mikey,
I dont think that we agreed yet. Avri was talking about what we had for previous election.
even if we follow such process, I don't see how we can candidates by Monday.
Best,
Rafik
2014-03-14 22:27 GMT+09:00 Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com>:
works for me. it would be nice to have candidates named by Monday.
mikey
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 14-Mar-14 08:47, Mike O'Connor wrote:
“same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case?
This was only the case for the V-chair election a few years ago.
The Board seat election worked just fine.
There were two candidates one from each SG.
ballot 1: 6:7 ballot 2: 8:5
Winner declared.
Ballots were secret.
Which voter kept party discipline and which didn't is (somewhat)
secret.
The method worked fine.
avri
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On 14 Mar 2014, at 8:47 pm, Mike O'Connor <mike@haven2.com> wrote:
hi all,
a journey begins with small steps. :-)
i’ll accept part of the blame for the lack of progress on the election. i swung away from a lot of lists this week and some of the conversations got a bit stale as a result. and yes, we are starting to run out of daylight.
i’m not included in the CSG leadership discussions, so i don’t know the state of play there. which brings me around to the question of who should be on *this* list - this experience is making me stronger in my belief that it would be helpful to make this a broad list rather than a narrow one. so another “small step” would be to include executive committee members of all the constituencies and stakeholder groups in the membership of this list. Bill, you and i had that exchange a while back. what say you?
For this discussion we may not need all the exec leadership and such, but in general to keep this house list as a useful list I think it is good to keep it broad.
meanwhile, back at the election. i don’t exactly know where to go from here. i’m way outside my cozy little working-group comfort zone — because in that setting we’d just bash it out on the list and the calls. we’re taking some positive steps with this list and the drinks gathering, but the election conversation is perhaps Too Hard to fit in the “early steps” category and we’re struggling a bit.
here are some options:
“same as last time” — one candidate per SG, Councilors vote per instruction. in the case of deadlock, it goes to the Ombudsman for mediation. treat this one as the default case?
The Ombudsman got involved in the vice-chairs, but that was because there was a history. Most likely, if there is a deadlock we'll have to sort it out ourselves. I'm not sure if NCSG would have a process to instruct councillors, but obviously there would be extensive discussion. And yes, that is probably the default case, but only because it is what we did last time. Personally, I'm not that fond of it as a process.
“wide open” — this is the opposite. lots of candidates, Councilors are released to vote as they see fit (although i for one would listen hard to my constituency). i think this is a stretch, given where we’re at right now.
Multiple candidates doesn't imply that councillors are free to vote as they fit, but it is likely more practical. Of course, I'd listen hard to my constituency in any case - and if given a free vote, I'll listen to anyone who has useful advice about the merits of the various candidates. To be predictably Australian for a moment, for multiple candidate elections I find a preferential ballot (also called a single transferrable vote - i.e. the system we use to elect politicians in Australia) to be a better system for multiple candidate elections than systems will multiple voting rounds etc, And it is one of the suggestions made by Beth's strategy panel that we consider that form of voting. I know it is probably far too radical a suggestion for the non-antipodeans at this late stage, but I just thought I'd throw the suggestion out there.
“figure it out in Singapore” — i’m not sure how well “dealing with this over drinks” would work, but it might. advantage: face-to-face. disadvantage: high risk of non-transparent process, puts a lot of pressure on an already-overloaded schedule.
I hope it doesn't come to that, but at this stage I suspect it will. I'm just going to note that I haven't distributed the confidential review of Bill Graham's board performance yet, as I don't think it is appropriate to distribute until Bill is formally nominated, and we don't yet seem to have a formal nomination process - but thanks to Glen for suggesting a mechanism that allows us to distribute it appropriately. And I am, of course, pleased that we appear close to agreement on the vital 'having a drink' issue. Cheers David
“something else”?
mikey
On Mar 14, 2014, at 5:03 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok then, we have no agreement on how to conduct an election, but we do agree on having a drink. Start with the low hanging fruit, as they say… :-)
So ok, Ombuds Reception at 5pm Tuesday 25, and if that turns out not to suit us we can head upstairs to City Space. Done.
Now about that election bit…?
Bill
On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Great idea!
From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:17 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: Mike O'Connor; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Actually I just notice that Chris has an Ombuds Reception at 5pm. I understand he didn’t get a lot of bodies in BA. Maybe we should just go there, we can avail ourselves of his services and thus make him doubly happy :-)
On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Elisa Cooper <Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sounds great.
From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike@haven2.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:48 AM To: William Drake Cc: Elisa Cooper; gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
hi,
i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It
We could just show up and try to take over City Space http://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/ on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged...
It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space.
Bill
On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that.
Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening?
Best, Elisa
From: William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM To: Elisa Cooper Cc: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks?
Best, Elisa
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Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency
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From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM To: gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore?
Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
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On 14-Mar-14 10:41, David Cake wrote:
To be predictably Australian for a moment, for multiple candidate elections I find a preferential ballot (also called a single transferrable vote - i.e. the system we use to elect politicians in Australia) to be a better system for multiple candidate elections than systems will multiple voting rounds etc, And it is one of the suggestions made by Beth's strategy panel that we consider that form of voting. I know it is probably far too radical a suggestion for the non-antipodeans at this late stage, but I just thought I'd throw the suggestion out there.
i am willing to see anything tried. But I don not understand this well enough to know why it is more democratic. Can you explain? also i assume the method relies on free voters, or does it work in the context of party/constituency/SG discipline as well. Which brings up another questions When some speak of binding the council voters, it that according to Constituency or according to SG? And do we believe we could make a decision that related to all of these or is this a local (C or SG) decision? I know the NCSG charter it is an SG function, and is very specific about the times it may bind the votes of council members. In the CSG, is it up to each Constituency to decide what it does in terms of binding its voters? avri
On 14 Mar 2014, at 11:07 pm, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:
On 14-Mar-14 10:41, David Cake wrote:
To be predictably Australian for a moment, for multiple candidate elections I find a preferential ballot (also called a single transferrable vote - i.e. the system we use to elect politicians in Australia) to be a better system for multiple candidate elections than systems will multiple voting rounds etc, And it is one of the suggestions made by Beth's strategy panel that we consider that form of voting. I know it is probably far too radical a suggestion for the non-antipodeans at this late stage, but I just thought I'd throw the suggestion out there.
i am willing to see anything tried. But I don not understand this well enough to know why it is more democratic. Can you explain?
Voting systems are a complicated subject on which I don't claim to be an expert, but most of the tricky stuff applies to multiple position elections. For electing a single candidate to a single position, we'd be talking about an Instant Runoff System http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting On the ballot, you simply rank candidates in order of preference. To count the vote, you count the ballots per candidate, and if there is no majority winner you eliminate the candidate with the lowest ballot and redistribute their votes based on the next preference, repeat until one candidate has >50% It is is more democratic because it largely (though not entirely) removes any incentive for voters to vote strategically (strategic voting is voting for the candidate based on your assessment of their relative chances of winning, rather than the candidate you actually want to win). In short, it allows candidates to stand without feeling that their candidature is weakening the campaign of another that they might have sympathies with. This contrasts with
also i assume the method relies on free voters, or does it work in the context of party/constituency/SG discipline as well.
Oh, it can certainly apply in both situations. While a preferential ballot is the system we use for elections here, which are of course a free and secret vote, I've also seen it used for international political party ballots in which groups such as unions controlled a significant number of votes. Of course, if the ballot is secret, you may not be able to verify how a ballot was cast, but that is regardless of voting system. An excellent system for conducting various kinds of ranked choice ballots online can be found at http://www.opavote.org/, and that site also has some useful explanation about its value. Regards David
me too. avri On 11-Mar-14 11:48, Mike O'Connor wrote:
hi,
i’m fine either way, but do like the idea of just taking over a chunk of City Space.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake@gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi
I suspect after CD we will all be ready for a drink in any event, so why not do it together? It
We could just show up and try to take over City Space http://www.swissotel.com/hotels/singapore-stamford/bars/city-space/ on a cash bar basis, although that can be difficult if others already there. Or if people want to deal with reservations and budgeting catering we can do that…but I suspect we are all pretty bandwidth challenged...
It seems both sides are done at 4:30pm, so 5pm? Maybe early moving would improve chances of grabbing space.
Bill
On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Sure – I’d be up for that. Shall we tentatively agree to try and meet for drinks on Tuesday evening? Best, Elisa *From:*William Drake [mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com] *Sent:*Monday, March 10, 2014 10:36 AM *To:*Elisa Cooper *Cc:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*Re: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? That’s a pretty heavy day, followed by the Gala. Wouldn’t Tuesday after CD be better, there’s no music night…?
BD
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com <mailto:elisa.cooper@markmonitor.com>> wrote:
Could we maybe plan to meet informally on Monday evening, for drinks? Best, Elisa Elisa Cooper Senior Director of Product Marketing MarkMonitor, Part of Thomson Reuters Elisa Cooper Chair ICANN Business Constituency 208 389-5779 PH *From:*gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org>[mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces@icann.org]*On Behalf Of*William Drake *Sent:*Sunday, March 09, 2014 3:49 AM *To:*gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership@icann.org> *Subject:*[Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH @ Singapore? Hi
Looking at recent exchanges over morning coffee a thought occurred: are we going to attempt any sort of gathering, whether formal or informal? The receptions in BA and Durban were quite good icebreakers, and the evening calendar seems curiously light this time. I might even be able to shake a contribution our of our meagre means. Or we could do something more formal, if we wanted to talk election, intersessional, etc. Schedules are packed but something late day, e.g. on CD, might work if there’s interest…?
BTW: Glen, for some reason the the subscribers list is only available to the list administrator. Could you please change that to allow members access? Nice to remember who all we’re talking to…
thanks,
Bill
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Avri Doria -
David Cake -
Elisa Cooper -
Glen de Saint Géry -
Mike O'Connor -
Rafik Dammak -
Rosette, Kristina -
Tony Holmes -
William Drake -
WUKnoben