Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC
Dear WG Members, With apologies for the late delivery, please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG meeting scheduled for 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC, for 90 minutes. Agenda Review Roll Call/SOIs Review of the Initial Report (continued). * The purpose of this review is to ensure that preliminary outcomes and deliberations are accurately captured and written in an understandable manner. The WG Co-Chairs have sought to make clear that this exercise is not intended to re-open substantive discussions, which is better served by the submission of public comments and subsequently when reviewing public comments received. Please submit your comments about these sections to the Working Group mailing list (gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org) in advance of the meeting. Review of Section 1.8 (Accountability Mechanisms) Review of Section 1.9 (Community Applications) Review of other sections in the Initial Report AOB For Item 3, the relevant documents are attached. As a reminder, please note that a resource page has been set up on the Wiki to track the distribution of Initial Report sections, which you can find here: https://community.icann.org/x/NwUhB. For Item 4, you will find a draft of most of the other sections within the Initial Report, including the Preamble and the Executive Summary. You will see a placeholder in Section 2, which states, “Insert sections from the excerpts reviewed by Working Group…” – here, staff will insert the sections we have been reviewing for the last couple of months, inclusive of any changes as needed from discussions on calls and on list. Those signed up as Members to this PDP WG should have received meeting information from the SOAC Support team. If you did not receive these participation details or if you would like to send your apologies, please contact the SOAC Support team (gnso-secs@icann.org). Best, Steve Steven Chan Policy Director, GNSO Support ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org mobile: +1.310.339.4410 office tel: +1.310.301.5800 office fax: +1.310.823.8649 Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages. Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO Follow the GNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/icanngnso/ http://gnso.icann.org/en/
Steve, Thanks for the agenda. Sorry I won’t be able to make the call. I am at Royal Ascot, watching the horse races with Her Majesty ! Would it be possible to send a link to the Executive Summary. Will this executive summary show the number of anticipated applications and the associated costings , as well as timelines. Thanks, Phil Phil Buckingham From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: 17 June 2018 18:25 To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC Dear WG Members, With apologies for the late delivery, please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG meeting scheduled for 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC, for 90 minutes. 1. Agenda Review 2. Roll Call/SOIs 3. Review of the Initial Report (continued). * The purpose of this review is to ensure that preliminary outcomes and deliberations are accurately captured and written in an understandable manner. The WG Co-Chairs have sought to make clear that this exercise is not intended to re-open substantive discussions, which is better served by the submission of public comments and subsequently when reviewing public comments received. Please submit your comments about these sections to the Working Group mailing list ( <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org) in advance of the meeting. 1. Review of Section 1.8 (Accountability Mechanisms) 2. Review of Section 1.9 (Community Applications) 4. Review of other sections in the Initial Report 5. AOB For Item 3, the relevant documents are attached. As a reminder, please note that a resource page has been set up on the Wiki to track the distribution of Initial Report sections, which you can find here: <https://community.icann.org/x/NwUhB> https://community.icann.org/x/NwUhB. For Item 4, you will find a draft of most of the other sections within the Initial Report, including the Preamble and the Executive Summary. You will see a placeholder in Section 2, which states, “Insert sections from the excerpts reviewed by Working Group…” – here, staff will insert the sections we have been reviewing for the last couple of months, inclusive of any changes as needed from discussions on calls and on list. Those signed up as Members to this PDP WG should have received meeting information from the SOAC Support team. If you did not receive these participation details or if you would like to send your apologies, please contact the SOAC Support team ( <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> gnso-secs@icann.org). Best, Steve Steven Chan Policy Director, GNSO Support ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org mobile: +1.310.339.4410 office tel: +1.310.301.5800 office fax: +1.310.823.8649 Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses <applewebdata://310CAD3E-E244-4690-A938-C2655DD44BDE/learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages <http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...> . Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO Follow the GNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/icanngnso/ http://gnso.icann.org/en/
On 17 Jun 2018, at 14:59, Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk> wrote:
Steve,
Thanks for the agenda. Sorry I won’t be able to make the call. I am at Royal Ascot, watching the horse races with Her Majesty !
Would it be possible to send a link to the Executive Summary. Will this executive summary show the number of anticipated applications and the associated costings , as well as timelines.
I don't think it was ever envisioned for the PDP to have those results, since they are dependent on both policy and program implementation. Rubens
Phil - The only hint we have to date is that, apparently for security reasons, a rate of about 1000 new TLDs per year would be manageable. 1. Personally, I find that figure rather high notably because of the lead times required between an application and a final delegation in the Root. I have asked on the Calls for an indication from the ICANN staff as to how many new applications, per month, they can handle in terms of the economic and technical due diligence that I assume would be required. We have not yet had a response. 2. I have also proposed that in policy terms the issue should be disaggregated into more manageable batches of categories, since many of the relevant parameters will be distinct. The obvious categories would be Brands, Geographical Names, Geographical Indications and IDNs (by script). There could be other re-groupiings of applications such as undeserved regions and Communities. Policy would of course determine priorities in time. These options have not yet been discussed by the Work Tracks concerned. Regards Christopher
El 17 de junio de 2018 a las 23:16 Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> escribió:
> > On 17 Jun 2018, at 14:59, Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk mailto:phil@dotadvice.co.uk > wrote:
Steve,
Thanks for the agenda. Sorry I won’t be able to make the call. I am at Royal Ascot, watching the horse races with Her Majesty !
Would it be possible to send a link to the Executive Summary. Will this executive summary show the number of anticipated applications and the associated costings , as well as timelines.
> I don't think it was ever envisioned for the PDP to have those results, since they are dependent on both policy and program implementation.
Rubens
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Em 18 de jun de 2018, à(s) 08:58:000, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu Wilkinson <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> escreveu:
Phil - The only hint we have to date is that, apparently for security reasons, a rate of about 1000 new TLDs per year would be manageable.
There is no such assertion anywhere either in the 2012 round or the next. I'll refer you to the security and stability section of the report, where we document that 1000 per year would be an administrative capacity limit, and for that capacity, it was said that it would not cause operational issues. That's different from saying that's the system limit, and what you can see in the report is the definition to not impose a limit, but to follow prudence and monitoring during the delegation cycle.
1. Personally, I find that figure rather high notably because of the lead times required between an application and a final delegation in the Root. I have asked on the Calls for an indication from the ICANN staff as to how many new applications, per month, they can handle in terms of the economic and technical due diligence that I assume would be required. We have not yet had a response.
There was no economical due diligence made in the previous or foreseen for the next round.
2. I have also proposed that in policy terms the issue should be disaggregated into more manageable batches of categories, since many of the relevant parameters will be distinct. The obvious categories would be Brands, Geographical Names, Geographical Indications and IDNs (by script). There could be other re-groupiings of applications such as undeserved regions and Communities. Policy would of course determine priorities in time.
These options have not yet been discussed by the Work Tracks concerned.
I remember a WT discussing exactly this option and deciding not to follow it. Note that WT discussions go a long way back before you joined, so reading the wiki with the session transcripts would be interesting to avoid getting to impressions like this. Rubens
Regards
Christopher
El 17 de junio de 2018 a las 23:16 Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> escribió:
On 17 Jun 2018, at 14:59, Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk <mailto:phil@dotadvice.co.uk>> wrote:
Steve,
Thanks for the agenda. Sorry I won’t be able to make the call. I am at Royal Ascot, watching the horse races with Her Majesty !
Would it be possible to send a link to the Executive Summary. Will this executive summary show the number of anticipated applications and the associated costings , as well as timelines.
I don't think it was ever envisioned for the PDP to have those results, since they are dependent on both policy and program implementation.
Rubens
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Dear All That seems sound suggestion to me Regards Kavouss Sent from my iPhone
On 18 Jun 2018, at 06:58, lists@christopherwilkinson.eu Wilkinson <lists@christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
Phil - The only hint we have to date is that, apparently for security reasons, a rate of about 1000 new TLDs per year would be manageable.
1. Personally, I find that figure rather high notably because of the lead times required between an application and a final delegation in the Root. I have asked on the Calls for an indication from the ICANN staff as to how many new applications, per month, they can handle in terms of the economic and technical due diligence that I assume would be required. We have not yet had a response.
2. I have also proposed that in policy terms the issue should be disaggregated into more manageable batches of categories, since many of the relevant parameters will be distinct. The obvious categories would be Brands, Geographical Names, Geographical Indications and IDNs (by script). There could be other re-groupiings of applications such as undeserved regions and Communities. Policy would of course determine priorities in time.
These options have not yet been discussed by the Work Tracks concerned.
Regards
Christopher
El 17 de junio de 2018 a las 23:16 Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> escribió:
On 17 Jun 2018, at 14:59, Phil Buckingham <phil@dotadvice.co.uk> wrote:
Steve,
Thanks for the agenda. Sorry I won’t be able to make the call. I am at Royal Ascot, watching the horse races with Her Majesty !
Would it be possible to send a link to the Executive Summary. Will this executive summary show the number of anticipated applications and the associated costings , as well as timelines.
I don't think it was ever envisioned for the PDP to have those results, since they are dependent on both policy and program implementation.
Rubens
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My comments and suggestions on 1.8 attached. From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 1:25 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC Dear WG Members, With apologies for the late delivery, please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG meeting scheduled for 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC, for 90 minutes. 1. Agenda Review 2. Roll Call/SOIs 3. Review of the Initial Report (continued). * The purpose of this review is to ensure that preliminary outcomes and deliberations are accurately captured and written in an understandable manner. The WG Co-Chairs have sought to make clear that this exercise is not intended to re-open substantive discussions, which is better served by the submission of public comments and subsequently when reviewing public comments received. Please submit your comments about these sections to the Working Group mailing list (gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>) in advance of the meeting. * Review of Section 1.8 (Accountability Mechanisms) * Review of Section 1.9 (Community Applications) 4. Review of other sections in the Initial Report 5. AOB For Item 3, the relevant documents are attached. As a reminder, please note that a resource page has been set up on the Wiki to track the distribution of Initial Report sections, which you can find here: https://community.icann.org/x/NwUhB. For Item 4, you will find a draft of most of the other sections within the Initial Report, including the Preamble and the Executive Summary. You will see a placeholder in Section 2, which states, “Insert sections from the excerpts reviewed by Working Group…” – here, staff will insert the sections we have been reviewing for the last couple of months, inclusive of any changes as needed from discussions on calls and on list. Those signed up as Members to this PDP WG should have received meeting information from the SOAC Support team. If you did not receive these participation details or if you would like to send your apologies, please contact the SOAC Support team (gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>). Best, Steve Steven Chan Policy Director, GNSO Support ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> mobile: +1.310.339.4410 office tel: +1.310.301.5800 office fax: +1.310.823.8649 Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<applewebdata://310CAD3E-E244-4690-A938-C2655DD44BDE/learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>. Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO Follow the GNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/icanngnso/ http://gnso.icann.org/en/
This time with attachment. Apologies. From: Rosette, Kristina Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 10:51 AM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Cc: 'Steve Chan' <steve.chan@icann.org> Subject: RE: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC My comments and suggestions on 1.8 attached. From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 1:25 PM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC Dear WG Members, With apologies for the late delivery, please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG meeting scheduled for 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC, for 90 minutes. 1. Agenda Review 2. Roll Call/SOIs 3. Review of the Initial Report (continued). * The purpose of this review is to ensure that preliminary outcomes and deliberations are accurately captured and written in an understandable manner. The WG Co-Chairs have sought to make clear that this exercise is not intended to re-open substantive discussions, which is better served by the submission of public comments and subsequently when reviewing public comments received. Please submit your comments about these sections to the Working Group mailing list (gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>) in advance of the meeting. * Review of Section 1.8 (Accountability Mechanisms) * Review of Section 1.9 (Community Applications) 4. Review of other sections in the Initial Report 5. AOB For Item 3, the relevant documents are attached. As a reminder, please note that a resource page has been set up on the Wiki to track the distribution of Initial Report sections, which you can find here: https://community.icann.org/x/NwUhB. For Item 4, you will find a draft of most of the other sections within the Initial Report, including the Preamble and the Executive Summary. You will see a placeholder in Section 2, which states, “Insert sections from the excerpts reviewed by Working Group…” – here, staff will insert the sections we have been reviewing for the last couple of months, inclusive of any changes as needed from discussions on calls and on list. Those signed up as Members to this PDP WG should have received meeting information from the SOAC Support team. If you did not receive these participation details or if you would like to send your apologies, please contact the SOAC Support team (gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>). Best, Steve Steven Chan Policy Director, GNSO Support ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan@icann.org<mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> mobile: +1.310.339.4410 office tel: +1.310.301.5800 office fax: +1.310.823.8649 Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<applewebdata://310CAD3E-E244-4690-A938-C2655DD44BDE/learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-e...>. Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO Follow the GNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/icanngnso/ http://gnso.icann.org/en/
Dear all, Thanks for your assistance in relation to comments about not naming specific Native American tribes in today’s call. I recall a discussion as to whether it would be appropriate to evaluate community applications based on the type of entity that was making the application – that is - for profit or not-for-profit, etc. I had mentioned this would not be an appropriate screening tool because (1) there are many underserved populations, including Native American populations, that may form for-profit corporate entities for certain purposes that can be community-based and (2) Federally-recognized Indian Tribes often have their own sovereign laws as to business entity formation that don’t necessarily track the common understanding of state-created or IRS-qualified entities. I am aware that there is at least one Fellow from a U.S. tribe that has attended ICANN meetings in the past. It might be good to get her perspective on Native American communities. (I believe her name is April Tinhorn.) I could also do some outreach as a member of the National Native American Bar Association to see whether they would like to provide comments during the public comment period. Thank you, Anne Anne E. Aikman-Scalese Of Counsel 520.629.4428 office 520.879.4725 fax AAikman@lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com> _____________________________ [cid:image003.png@01D40705.AA70FF30] Lewis Roca Rothgerber Christie LLP One South Church Avenue, Suite 2000 Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611 lrrc.com<http://lrrc.com/> From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Steve Chan Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 10:25 AM To: gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposed agenda - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG - 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC Dear WG Members, With apologies for the late delivery, please find the proposed agenda for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG meeting scheduled for 18 June 2018 at 15:00 UTC, for 90 minutes. 1. Agenda Review 2. Roll Call/SOIs 3. Review of the Initial Report (continued). * The purpose of this review is to ensure that preliminary outcomes and deliberations are accurately captured and written in an understandable manner. The WG Co-Chairs have sought to make clear that this exercise is not intended to re-open substantive discussions, which is better served by the submission of public comments and subsequently when reviewing public comments received. Please submit your comments about these sections to the Working Group mailing list (gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg@icann.org>) in advance of the meeting. * Review of Section 1.8 (Accountability Mechanisms) * Review of Section 1.9 (Community Applications) 4. Review of other sections in the Initial Report 5. AOB For Item 3, the relevant documents are attached. As a reminder, please note that a resource page has been set up on the Wiki to track the distribution of Initial Report sections, which you can find here: https://community.icann.org/x/NwUhB. For Item 4, you will find a draft of most of the other sections within the Initial Report, including the Preamble and the Executive Summary. You will see a placeholder in Section 2, which states, “Insert sections from the excerpts reviewed by Working Group…” – here, staff will insert the sections we have been reviewing for the last couple of months, inclusive of any changes as needed from discussions on calls and on list. Those signed up as Members to this PDP WG should have received meeting information from the SOAC Support team. If you did not receive these participation details or if you would like to send your apologies, please contact the SOAC Support team (gnso-secs@icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>). 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