November 2014 - Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg

MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 11 November 2014 at 1500 UTC
by Terri Agnew Nov. 11, 2014

Nov. 11, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 11 November 2014 at 15:00 UTC. at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20141111-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Steve Metalitz - IPC Graeme Bunton – RrSG Frank Michlick – Individual Don Blumenthal – RySG David Heasley-IPC Chris Pelling – RrSG Justin Macy - BC Susan Kawaguchi – BC Kristina Rosette – IPC Sarah Wyld – RrSG Val Sherman – IPC Volker Greimann - RrSG Holly Raiche – ALAC Theo Geurts - RrSG Stephanie Perrin - NCSG David Cake - NCSG Susan Prosser – RrSG Libby Baney – BC Luc Seufer – RrSG Michele Neylon – RrSG James Bladel – RrSG Keith Kupferschmid-IPC Christian Dawson-ISPCP Tatiana Khramtsova – RrSG Phil Marano – IPC Griffin Barnett – IPC Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP Apologies : Darcy Southwell - RrSG Phil Corwin – BC Lindsay Hamilton-Reid-RrSG Kiran Malancharuvil-IPC Dick Leaning – no soi Eric Brunner-Williams- Not Applicable ICANN staff: Mary Wong Amy Bivins Danielle Andela Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 11 November 2014: Terri Agnew: Welcome to the PPSAI call on 11 November 2014 Theo Geurts:Afternoon all. Chris Pelling:Afternoon all Graeme Bunton:G'mornin all. Frank Michlick:Good morning. Val Sherman:Hello all Michele Neylon:afternoon Terri Agnew:Susan Kawaguchi and Libby Baney have joined Terri Agnew:Susan Prosser has joined audio Terri Agnew:Stephanie Perrin has joined Stephanie:I am sorry I missed Don's comment about the change in process...what was it? Michele Neylon:I missed it too Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all, sorry I'm late Terri Agnew:David Cake has joined Holly Raiche:The change was that we will not have a presentation from law enforcement or privacy authorities Stephanie:NOt ever? Bladel:can't hear don Terri Agnew:Kristina Rosette has joined Mary Wong:@Stephanie, the idea now given our timeline is to have LEA and DPA input on our prelim recommendations instead of doing a full presentation each. Chris Pelling:+1 to James Mary Wong:With the Remembrance Day holiday today and the deadlines coming up for us, it did not seem realistic to expect LEA and DPA to have fully digested our work so far in order to have a meaningful session. Stephanie:@ Mary, makes sense. Stephanie:thanks Mary Wong:No problem :) We really would welcome LEA and DPA input, though, so we appreciate the suggestions. Luc Seufer:DPA input would have indeed help to deal with the compliance part. I am not sure how to demonstrate compliance in case of a relay without disclosing the registrant details. Bladel:Tha'ts a good question. Holly Raiche:My guess is the best that can be done is to explain the process without revealing user details Chris Pelling:@Luc simply provide the "OK" string of mail delivery Chris Pelling:with a time and date stamp Mary Wong:@Steve, we'll take your question back to our Compliance colleagues, but my guess is that we won't have reliable or many statistics since there's no real way right now to distinguish a P/P registration from a non-P/P one just from the registration data. Stephanie:Does the ok string reveal IP address? Chris Pelling:no Chris Pelling:^^@ Stephanie Chris Pelling:and I would if it were my service, strip out any personal info and provide if required just the ok string, as confirmation with date and time steve metalitz:@Mary, "gaining registrars" in this process may have some insights. Mary Wong:@Steve, thanks - we'll ask Compliance and the Rr Services team. Holly Raiche:@ Stephanie - it probably would in Australlia as well Mary Wong:On Steve's point - it may be helpful if Registrar SG members who are in this WG could comment, if they've come across this :) Chris Pelling:if I have this wrong Steve, sorry, but, RDE escrow the correct registrant information as per the RDE spec, if a registrar is accredited for both, registrar AND PP provider, then ICANN need only amend the RDE escrow to include a further field for "PP" Y or N. Chris Pelling:Now, this means ICANN may or may not want to do that, but, thats the easiest way Mary Wong:@Chris, are you suggesting the WG recommend this step? Christian Dawson:On a bad Internet connection while traveling and the audio keeps dropping out so I can't follow. Will listen to the recording later - dropping off. Chris Pelling:hell no mary - its a thought Chris Pelling:thanks for the music ;) Mary Wong:OK thanks, just checking! Chris Pelling:hehehe Chris Pelling:OSprru dpm wjat was tjat Chris Pelling:Sorry don what was that ? steve metalitz:Proxy and privacy service provider are defined in our terms of reference, the issue iarises when a provider of those services loses accreditation. steve metalitz:In the registrar situatoin are registrants guarranteed the same terms of service from the gaining registrar? Stephanie:@Don, they may not exist now but they may very soon... Don Blumenthal:Stephanie, how much can we guide our work on "maybe?" Holly Raiche:The transfer issue was how to maintain the privacy of p/p user details on the transfer process to another p/p provider Mary Wong:@Steve, I don't believe so because I don't believe ICANN is in a position to measure/gauge different Registrar ToS. Stephanie:I guess that depends, Don, on how seriously you take the EWG report. Volker A. Greimann:somebody please pick up that phone Don Blumenthal:"take seriously" doesn't equal the likelihood of any recommendaiton being implemented. Stephanie:@Mary Very helpful. I think, with or wihtout the EWG recommendations, we could list potential issues that are not addressed in the current transfer protocol. Terri Agnew:Phil Marano has joined Holly Raiche:I would have a concern if we leave unresolved issues to an implementation process. We should be working through the issues here as much as possible. Policy should not be decided by an implementation group Terri Agnew:Griffin Barnett has joined Stephanie:I would agree with Holly....we are starting from a tabula rasa here, in that PP services are not subject to rules at the moment. Frank Michlick:When a registrar is deaccredited, usually the domains and customers are transferred to registrars that have a similar offering . Holly Raiche:@ frank - I think that is what we assumed. The issue we had is how to preserve he privacy of registrant details in that transfer process Frank Michlick:The transfer usually is coordinated by ICANN, the registry whois would not change and the Registrar Data Escrow data would be made available to the registrar who gains the registrar. That data should contain the underlying actual registration data. Frank Michlick:unless the issue that Michele is bringing up takes place... Graeme Bunton:we've had nasty transfers from de-accreds Graeme Bunton:orphaned domains with no identifiable owner Stephanie:So what happens to the registrant in that case? Michele Neylon:Graeme - we had that issues Holly Raiche:And my understanding is that a gaining registrar has to verify registrant details - with implications for privacy? steve metalitz:Catch 22 started on west side of Atlantic Michele Neylon:Stephanie - you try to help them if they can give you proof Michele Neylon:Steve - I know Michele Neylon::) Bladel:Trouble hearing don agian Michele Neylon:fine for me Michele Neylon:audio I mean Graeme Bunton:ok for me too Luc Seufer:fine for me too(but I am young) Stephanie:So surely this is an issue that is within our remit.....something in the accreditation/de-accreditation regime has to take care of the needs of the registrant, in the case where they wind up in the hands of an unscrupulous/non-compliant provider Michele Neylon:Luc - you just love using that line Luc Seufer:until I turn 30 Michele Neylon:Stephanie which one is the problem? the one that's losing or the one that's gainin? :) Michele Neylon:Luc - you're over 30 already Holly Raiche:@ stephanie - I think one of the rules will be transfeONLY to an accredited p/p provider?? Michele Neylon:Steve - yeah - big difference Stephanie:@michele, we have to defend users against both, I realize that is probably tough...:-) Stephanie:Remembering that we would not be de-accrediting if they weren't accredited in the first place.... Holly Raiche:@ Stephanie - agreed Mary Wong:The four points Steve mentioned have been posted in the right hand side Notes Pod. Luc Seufer:To be really effective every registry should impose that the underlying data be escrowed with the RDE. But this would require an amdendment of every RA Graeme Bunton:Your domains are safe with us, Stephanie Stephanie:I know Graeme.. Luc Seufer:will it be in the records that Tucows igoing belly up next time Stephanie is going on a world cruise? Stephanie:Absolutely! Stephanie:@James, agree that this is a difficult matter but there needs to be some kind of escrow/optout for the customer Holly Raiche:I think that, becausse notice should be given, registrants could be allowed to make a choice of another p/p provider Don Blumenthal:Notice should be given at what point? Holly Raiche:@ Don - we were talking about a kind of 3 strickes before you are out - Mary Wong:We'll send out some notes after the call. Frank Michlick:Thank you all. Ciao. Stephanie:Thanks Don! Luc Seufer:Merci Don Chris Pelling:Thanks all David Cake:thank you

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Agenda and documents for WG meeting on Tuesday 11 November
by Mary Wong Nov. 11, 2014

Nov. 11, 2014

Dear WG members, Here is the proposed agenda for the next WG meeting, on Tuesday 11 November: 1. Roll Call/Updates to SOI 2. Continue deliberations on Category G in relation to termination/de-accreditation of P/P providers 3. Continue deliberations on Category F (if time permits) 4. Next steps For Agenda Item #2 - we hope that the staff summary of the current registrar termination/de-accreditation process that was sent to you over the weekend is helpful. For Agenda Item #3 - the Chairs have asked that we resend the WG¹s preliminary recommendations for Category F (attached). They have also asked that we highlight those aspects of the preliminary recommendations that relate directly to the termination of P/P services to a customer. As you¹ll see from the attached document (on pp. 3-4), the WG¹s current preliminary conclusions in relation to termination of service to a customer and resultant Publication of customer details in Whois center on the proposed obligation of P/P providers to disclose the following in their Terms of Service: * The specific grounds upon which a provider will Publish a customer¹s details, suspend service, or terminate service * The meaning (per the WG¹s definition) of Publication and its consequences * Whether a customer will be notified when the provider receives a request either for Disclosure or Publication * In the case of Publication, whether a customer will have the option to cancel its domain name registration prior to and in lieu of Publication Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Summary of Registrar De-accreditation Process
by Mary Wong Nov. 9, 2014

Nov. 9, 2014

Dear WG members, Having consulted with our colleagues on the Registrar Services Team and in the Compliance Department, we have drawn up a summary of the steps and processes involved in terminating an accredited Registrar¹s contract and hence de-accrediting that Registrar. Please note that the attached document is a summary only, and fuller descriptions of the process can be found by following the hyperlinks included. I will be pleased to transmit any questions you may have on the steps and overall process to my colleagues. In the meantime, we all hope that the attached summary is useful in facilitating the WG¹s discussions, especially in relation to Category G. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Recap & Moving Forward
by Graeme Bunton Nov. 7, 2014

Nov. 7, 2014

For my own benefit I thought it useful to try and capture highlights from the recent list discussion. Apologies if I've mis-characterized any of your arguments. I was trying to collect and aggregate them for my own understanding, and perhaps this is also useful for others. In general, we're still discussing disclosure. This has created two related threads of conversation, one around the definition of content, another for allegations of IP infringement, though they mostly overlap. Before we get to that, Eric Brunner-Williams, via Michele introduced some language that I thought was interesting and helpful, at least for introducing some precision in our discussions. This was, If I am understanding correctly, that we can break down some issues into two groups: String issues: problems directly related to the string of characters that constitute a domain name Resolved resource issues: problems related to what a domain name is pointed at I think it's worthwhile for us to discuss using those terms going forward. *Re: Allegations of IP Infringement and Disclosure**& what constitutes content* Phil Corwin raised concerns about relaying registrant details upon an allegation of infringement. He pointed out that UDRP and URS exist for string issues, and that complaints are frequently dismissed and reverse domain hijacking is increasing. Mandatory disclosure does not, to Phil, 'facilitate resolution'. Valeriya was suggesting that having access to registrant details prior to filing a UDRP may eliminate the need for the potential UDRP, as it better enables the rights holder to determine if a UDRP is warranted. We collectively batted this around for a bit, main points being: * the cost of a UDRP may be a useful gate to prevent abuse * 'cybersquating' and stockpiling domain names are not necessarily examples of bad faith use. * Disclosure being helpful for the requestor does not by itself justify the disclosure * UDRP filings due to the subsequent publishing of details are generally worse for the registrant than disclosure * Disclosure rather than publish may keep the customer for the provider. I don't think we resolved much from this discussion, but perhaps it clarified the positions. To me, and perhaps someone can clarify, it seems like the request for disclosure on allegation of infringement is to be used to fill in a rights holders' information gap. Shouldn't an IP rights holder know who they've allowed to use it and for what? Should we be building this mechanism, given the potential for abuse and the importance of protecting registrant privacy? The separate thread around the definition of content, if i may borrow a phrase from Steve, generated more heat than light. It ended up centering around the issue that most privacy/proxy service providers reserve the right to unilaterally terminate service to a customer, without due process, while also insisting that disclosing registrant details to a 3rd party upon IP infringement allegation was itself violation of due process. Volker and Frank pointed out that providers reserve the right to protect themselves, and may not use it lightly. Which lastly brings us to the discussion on a moderate central course of action. James had suggested that we look into the authorization and identification of 3rd party requestors. It's not a bad idea, though I suspect easier to implement for larger providers, so it might be worth hearing an opinion from others. I'm going to circle back to some of the discussions and proposals that registrars had worked on privately, and will see if that can be made ready for prime time. I'd encourage everyone to ponder ways forward on this issue, as we move on to category G to make a bit of headway before circling back. Thanks Graeme -- _________________________ Graeme Bunton Manager, Management Information Systems Manager, Public Policy Tucows Inc. PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634

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Summary of WG deliberations so far, in tabular format
by Mary Wong Nov. 6, 2014

Nov. 6, 2014

Dear all, At Don¹s request, I am sending around the attached table, which aims to show what we have covered in the course of our deliberations as a Working Group. The table lists all the topics that were flagged for our discussion, mostly by our WG Charter, and compares the current practice/situation (i.e. without an accreditation program) to what the situation might look like if our current recommendations are adopted and implemented. As we move forward with our discussions on Termination and return to discuss and review open topics (e.g. Relay and Reveal), we hope this will be a useful reference and overview of what we have covered to date. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Interesting story...
by James M. Bladel Nov. 6, 2014

Nov. 6, 2014

Extremist group with ties to Al Qaeda files false DMCA complaints with YouTube to blocks Islamic news channel (Al Hayat TV). Rough translated article: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fw… Original (German): http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/debatten/youtubes-daten-gefaehrden-is…

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MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 04 November 2014 at 1500 UTC
by Terri Agnew Nov. 4, 2014

Nov. 4, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 04 November 2014 at 15:00 UTC. at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20141104-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Steve Metalitz - IPC Graeme Bunton – RrSG Frank Michlick – Individual Don Blumenthal – RySG David Heasley-IPC Jim Bikoff-IPC Chris Pelling – RrSG Justin Macy - BC Susan Kawaguchi – BC Kristina Rosette – IPC Darcy Southwell – RrSG Sarah Wyld – RrSG Val Sherman – IPC Todd Williams – IPC Phil Corwin – BC Volker Greimann - RrSG Holly Raiche – ALAC Theo Geurts - RrSG Stephanie Perrin - NCSG David Cake - NCSG Susan Prosser – RrSG Libby Baney – BC Eric Brunner-Williams-N/A Luc Seufer – RrSG Philip Marano-IPC Lindsay Hamilton-Reid-RrSG Kiran Malancharuvil-IPC Carlton Samuels – At-Large Apologies : Michele Neylon – RrSG Alex Deacon – IPC Kathy Kleiman – NCSG Victoria Scheckler - IPC David Hughes-IPC James Bladel – RrSG Paul McGrady – IPC Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP Keith Kupferschmid-IPC Christian Dawson-ISPCP ICANN staff: Mary Wong Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 04 November 2014: Terri Agnew:Welcome to the PPSAI call on 04 November 2014 Chris Pelling:afternoon all Holly Raiche:Hi Terri. Did I request a dial out? Terri Agnew:Hi Holly, you did not but I amhaving the op dial out to you now Holly Raiche:Tks - 61 2 9436 2149 Graeme Bunton:Crank calls for Holly! Holly Raiche:It's 2.00am - I promise not to answer! Theo Geurts::) Graeme Bunton:Volker! Terri Agnew:Please remember to mute when not speaking Theo Geurts:Volker instructing folks at work hehe Val Sherman::) Philip Corwin:Good morning all Volker Greimann 2:now? Graeme Bunton:better Theo Geurts:all good now Volker Terri Agnew:Stephabnie Perrin has joined Terri Agnew:**Stephanie Perrin Libby Baney:Don, I'm having a bit of trouble hearing you through Adobe. Anyone else? Libby Baney:yeah, thanks! Graeme Bunton:sounds ok to me David Cake:fine with me too. Terri Agnew:Lindsay Hamilton-Reid has joined Lindsay Hamilton-Reid:Apologies for being late. Luc Seufer:operator said you spkoe too close to the mic Terri Agnew:Phil Marano has joined Sarah Wyld - Aplus.net:If there's privacy on the domain, wouldn't the IP right holder not be able to know if a licensed user is using it? Sarah Wyld - Aplus.net:B/c there's privacy they can't see who the user is. Sarah Wyld - Aplus.net:(Personally I still don't think it's a good reason to reveal) Luc Seufer:Isn't the use of the domain name important? And "revealing" who is using the domain? David Cake:Surely if they have had rights granted, they would respond to a relayed request? Holly Raiche:@ david - you would think so Philip Corwin:Agree with discussing reveal further offline -- and clarifying again that my concerns rekate solely to automatice reveal based solely on allegation of infringement based solely on domain name (for which UDRP & URS exist) rather than allegations of, e.g., sale of counterfeit goods on the website. Philip Corwin:And agree with David that an authorized user would likely respond to a relayed request. Terri Agnew:Keith Kupferschmid sends his apologies Eric Brunner-Williams (ebw):just a comment on registrar deacreditation, this assumes that there is deaccreditation for reasons other than non-payment, as a general rule. Holly Raiche:@ Eris - that was my understanding Holly Raiche:@ Stephanie - absolutely agree with the issues you are raising Mary Wong:The ICANN Compliance Dept publishes a monthly dashboard/report: https://features.icann.org/compliance Holly Raiche:What hat raises is the issue of transfer of a P/P client - which we have discussed but not necessarily solved Mary Wong:Part of the monthly report deals with Complaints and Enforcement; see this for an example of what they deal with: https://features.icann.org/compliance/enforcement-notices Eric Brunner-Williams (ebw):i think seperation of the registrar and the p/p services will help, only want to terminate the p/p if only the p/p tos is substantively and repeatedly breeched. Carlton Samuels:Howdy all Holly Raiche:Morning Carlton Eric Brunner-Williams (ebw):and only want to terminate the registrar service only if the registrar tos (raa08, raa13) is similarly breached. Stephanie Perrin:Totally agree with Phil on the mixing point. Need clarity here. Stephanie Perrin:Also need clarity....if a registrar is de-accredited, the PP service is separate in my view. Holly Raiche:I thought we jumped right into deaccreditation of the provider Volker Greimann 2:de-accreditation does not equal full disclosure Carlton Samuels:The arrnagement is for independent accreditation for P/P provider and Rr. So deaccreditation process must be separate for both. Holly Raiche:@ Volker - I think we are talking about de-accreditation of the provider - not about disclosure of details of the registrant Mary Wong:@Susan, thanks - we will check with our Rr Services & Compliance colleagues and get back to the WG. Susan Kawaguchi:Thanks Mary Eric Brunner-Williams (ebw):the question to ask if when icann (mike z) sends out "who wants to pick up the registrants of deaccredited registrar X", is an additional condition that the new registrar offer p/p previously. Stephanie Perrin:ONe of the issues, it seems to me, is how my PP service is transferred...if I select a provider based on whether they will defend me in case of IP claims, and the new provider chosen by ICANN does not, what are my appeal mechanisms?How fast do I have to move? it is a matter that is somewhat more consequential, when one has taken the effort to use a proxy.. Carlton Samuels:If we think deaccreditation of the one MUST impact the other in cases where the P/P procvider is also a Rr provider, then we use a 'fit and proper' framework Susan Kawaguchi:agree Carlton Mary Wong:2013 RAA: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en Mary Wong:Termination is in Section 5.5 Holly Raiche:Agre with Stephanie - it is one of the issues tha flows from de-accreditation Stephanie Perrin:@Carlton yes re separation of business lines Eric Brunner-Williams (ebw):iirc, if X has registrants in {com,net,org} then the registrars who respond to mike z's sollicitation mail must previously have at least passed ot&e with the {com/net} and {org} registry providers. rinse and repeat for the 2000 and 2004 and now 2013 sets of operators. Terri Agnew:Kiran Malancharuvil has joined audio Eric Brunner-Williams (ebw):so p/p is an additional constraint on the set of would-be failover registrars. Graeme Bunton:Could be we need a bit more time to go over the template. Mary Wong:Current interim spec: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#pri… steve metalitz:ICANN does currently send breach notices to registrars that operate p/p services, which could lead to de-accreditation of the registrar, see https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/serad-to-elizarov-31oc… Eric Brunner-Williams (ebw):steve, same t&c as for raa breach? Terri Agnew:Carlton Samuels has joined Eric Brunner-Williams (ebw):same cure window? steve metalitz:@Eric, the link is to an RAA breach notice so I think the answer to your questions is yes Stephanie Perrin:I agree with Graeme, It would be nice to get more time to go over all these links. Sorry for not having done assigned homework. Eric Brunner-Williams (ebw):ok, since it is possible to serially in-breach/not-in-breach via recurring cure (e.g., whois server down, up, down, ...). it would not be appropriate for serial breach of p/p either way (disclosure w/o reason or non-disclosure w/reason). Mary Wong:@Steve, thanks yes, the WG has some specific recs for customer obligations so those would "count" for TOS/T&C breach, presumably. Chris Pelling:are we looking to have a f2f in singapore ? Chris Pelling:being next feb now Chris Pelling:ta Mary Wong:@Chris, presumably the WG will have its usual meeting, but there won't be the additional day of facilitation as there was in LA Philip Corwin:FYI, I will miss next Tuesday's call as I will be flying to Phoenix for INTA Leadership meeting. Mary Wong:Thanks for letting us know, Phil - we'll note your apologies. Philip Corwin:Bye all Volker Greimann 2:thank you all Luc Seufer:thanks David Cake:thank you all Carlton Samuels:Thanks all Carlton Samuels:bye

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Agenda (Re: Nov 4th PPSAI call)
by Mary Wong Nov. 4, 2014

Nov. 4, 2014

Dear all, Please find below the proposed agenda for the WG¹s call on 4 November: 1. Roll Call/Updates to SOI 2. Brief discussion of next steps for Category F, including sessions with LEA and DPA 3. Commence deliberations on Category G 4. Next meeting/next steps Please find attached the latest version of the Preliminary Conclusions for Category E (Relay) and Category F (Reveal), in both of which we have added the draft language still under consideration by the WG. We will forward the template for Category G shortly for your review before the call. Alex, Kathy and Michele - thanks for letting us know that you will not be able to join the call. We¹ll note your apologies for the record. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org -----Original Message----- From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele(a)blacknight.com> Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM To: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Nov 4th PPSAI call >I won't be on a flight tomorrow, but I will be attending Web Summit in >Dublin all day, so I won't be on the call either > >Regards > >Michele > > >-- >Mr Michele Neylon >Blacknight Solutions >Hosting & Colocation, Domains >http://www.blacknight.host/ >http://blog.blacknight.com/ >http://www.blacknight.press/ >http://www.technology.ie/ >Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 >Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 >Social: http://mneylon.social >------------------------------- >Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business >Park,Sleaty >Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > >-----Original Message----- >From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces(a)icann.org >[mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman >Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 5:48 PM >To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Nov 4th PPSAI call > >Hi All, >I too will be on a flight during our call meeting tomorrow morning. >Sorry to miss it!! >Kathy >: >> Apologies but I will be unable to attend tomorrows call. (Unless of >>course my flight is horribly delayed - which is unfortunately always a >>possibility :) >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> Alex Deacon >> Senior VP, Internet Technology >> Motion Picture Association of America >> Alex_Deacon(a)mpaa.org >> +1.415.802.9776 (mobile) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list >> Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg > >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list >Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list >Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg

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Template for Category G
by Mary Wong Nov. 4, 2014

Nov. 4, 2014

Dear WG members, Please find attached the draft template for deliberations on Category G - Termination. Please also accept our apologies for not getting this out to you earlier; the good news is that it’s relatively short! We ask that you note also the Preliminary Note from ICANN Staff at the top of the document, which attempts to knit together some of the disparities/confusion surrounding this charter category. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 at 3:31 PM To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: Agenda (Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Nov 4th PPSAI call) >Dear all, > >Please find below the proposed agenda for the WG¹s call on 4 November: > >1. Roll Call/Updates to SOI >2. Brief discussion of next steps for Category F, including sessions with >LEA and DPA >3. Commence deliberations on Category G >4. Next meeting/next steps > >Please find attached the latest version of the Preliminary Conclusions for >Category E (Relay) and Category F (Reveal), in both of which we have added >the draft language still under consideration by the WG. > >We will forward the template for Category G shortly for your review before >the call. > >Alex, Kathy and Michele - thanks for letting us know that you will not be >able to join the call. We¹ll note your apologies for the record. > >Thanks and cheers >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele(a)blacknight.com> >Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM >To: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org" ><gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Nov 4th PPSAI call > >>I won't be on a flight tomorrow, but I will be attending Web Summit in >>Dublin all day, so I won't be on the call either >> >>Regards >> >>Michele >> >> >>-- >>Mr Michele Neylon >>Blacknight Solutions >>Hosting & Colocation, Domains >>http://www.blacknight.host/ >>http://blog.blacknight.com/ >>http://www.blacknight.press/ >>http://www.technology.ie/ >>Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 >>Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 >>Social: http://mneylon.social >>------------------------------- >>Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business >>Park,Sleaty >>Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces(a)icann.org >>[mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman >>Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 5:48 PM >>To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org >>Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Nov 4th PPSAI call >> >>Hi All, >>I too will be on a flight during our call meeting tomorrow morning. >>Sorry to miss it!! >>Kathy >>: >>> Apologies but I will be unable to attend tomorrows call. (Unless of >>>course my flight is horribly delayed - which is unfortunately always a >>>possibility :) >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> Alex Deacon >>> Senior VP, Internet Technology >>> Motion Picture Association of America >>> Alex_Deacon(a)mpaa.org >>> +1.415.802.9776 (mobile) >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list >>> Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list >>Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org >>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg >>_______________________________________________ >>Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list >>Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org >>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg >

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Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] [Ntfy-gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] REMINDER: Meeting invitation: Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG - Tuesday 04 November 2014 - 15:00 UTC
by James M. Bladel Nov. 4, 2014

Nov. 4, 2014

Nathalie and PPSAI: Please accept my apologies for this meeting, as I will be in transit. Thanks— J. From: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine(a)icann.org<mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org>> Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 at 22:42 To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew(a)icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org>>, "ntfy-gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:ntfy-gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <ntfy-gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:ntfy-gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [Ntfy-gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] REMINDER: Meeting invitation: Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG - Tuesday 04 November 2014 - 15:00 UTC Dear All, The next Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG teleconferenceis scheduled for Tuesday 04 November 2014 at 1500 UTC Please be aware that the clocks will have changed in some parts of the world, and in others not yet, so refer to the other times link below to ensure you join the meeting at the correct time. UTC time has been adjusted. 07:00 PST, 10:00 EST, 15:00 London, 16:00 CET For other times: http://tinyurl.com/ohrcwy9 Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/ppsai/ For those of you using the Adobe Connect audio, you may do so by activating your computer microphone via the Adobe room (Using a headset is preferable here). Make sure your speakers and microphone are not on mute. - Select the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the AC toolbar and choose CONNECT MY AUDIO (only option). - Select USING COMPUTER twice - Select ALLOW access to the ICANN Adobe room - the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the toolbar should then have changed into a MICROPHONE ICON - You may click on this MICROPHONE ICON to mute yourself (Icon will then have a line through it) and to unmute yourself (Line disappears) Participants must ALWAYS have their microphone or telephone on MUTE as default setting. You are requested to RAISE YOUR HAND if you wish to participate to avoid disruption. Dial-in details are below. If you require a dial-out, please let me know. Please confirm your dial-out requests to GNSO Secretariats gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> ______________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: PPSAI Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 06-800-12755 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4799 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5191 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew

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