January 2015 - Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg

Compilation of P/P provider responses
by Mary Wong 15 Sep '15

15 Sep '15

Dear WG members, Please find attached a document that staff has compiled of P/P provider responses to the 5 questions posed by the WG chairs to the group after the call last week, as follows: 1. What are provider practices regarding customer notification when a disclosure request is received, and is the customer given the opportunity to respond? 2. Does any provider offer its customer an option other than disclosure or publication, e.g. an opportunity to cancel the registration instead (i.e. what some WG members have mentioned as a ³takedown²)? 3. What are provider ³standards" for determining disclosure to third parties? 4. Can providers give the WG some general information about the percentage of requests for disclosure that are successful? 5. For Q4, do providers also have information about the type of claims those relate to e.g. If they are from LEA, 3P IP claim etc.? Please let me know if I have mischaracterized or omitted any response that you may have sent (for which I offer my apologies!). If you have not yet provided a response and are in a position to do so, or if you¹d like to add to a response you¹d provided previously, please send it along and I¹ll make sure it gets added to this document. Finally, please note that certain actual provider terms of service obtained from a sample of providers had previously been compiled as part of the draft template for this Category F, so that may also be helpful these are available on the WG wiki here: https://community.icann.org/x/QwbxAg. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Updated Draft Reporr (Re: Proposed agenda - PPSAI WG meeting0
by Mary Wong 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

And here is the updated report revised according to the WG call last Tuesday, up to where we stopped (end of agreed preliminary recommendation #17 under Section 1.3.1, with de-accreditation being the last substantive topic for this sub-category; following that, Section 1.3.2 summarizes those categories/questions/points on where there is not yet agreement, and Section 1.3.3 the point on which the WG has a majority and a minority view). Cheers Mary From: Marika Konings <marika.konings(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, January 26, 2015 at 09:12 To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed agenda - PPSAI WG meeting > Dear All, > > Please find below the proposed agenda for the next PPSAI WG meeting. Mary will > be circulating the latest version of the Draft Initial Report shortly. > > Best regards, > > Marika > > Proposed Agenda PPSAI WG Meeting 27 January 2015 > 1. Roll call/updates to SOI > 2. Complete review of Executive Summary of Draft Initial Report > 3. Discuss Category F > 4. Planning for Singapore meeting (see > http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-ppsai) > 5. Next steps / confirm next meeting

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MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 27 January 2015 at 1500 UTC
by Terri Agnew 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 27 January 2015 at 15:00 UTC. at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-27jan15-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Frank Michlick - Individual Justin Macy - BC Val Sherman - IPC Griffin Barnett - IPC Kathy Kleiman - NCSG Darcy Southwell - RrSG Todd Williams - IPC David Heasley - IPC Chris Pelling - RrSG Steve Metalitz - IPC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Luc Seufer - RrSG Don Blumenthal - RySG Jim Bikoff - IPC Michele Neylon- RrSG Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP Holly Raiche - ALAC James Bladel - RrSG Theo Geurts - RrSG Paul McGracy - IPC Vicky Scheckler - IPC Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC David Cake - NCSG Volker Greimann - RrSG Apologies : Carlton Samuels - ALAC Sarah Wyld - RrSG Christian Dawson - ISPCP Alex Deacon -IPC Mary Wong - Staff ICANN staff: Marika Konings Daniela Andela Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 27 January 2015 Marika Konings:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 27 January 2015 Chris Pelling:afternoon all Theo Geurts:good afternoon Chris and everyone else. Holly Raiche:Morning everyone Michele Neylon:and so has Michele Neylon .. Don Blumenthal:I can hear you but apparently it's not working the other way Terri Agnew:@Don, private caht me if you would like a dial out Kathy:Hi All Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all Graeme Bunton:Gooood morning everyone val sherman:Hello all Vicky Sheckler:hi Terri Agnew:Welcome Vicky Scheckler Terri Agnew:Welcome Luc Seufer Michele Neylon:who has the loud line? Marika Konings:The meeting is currently scheduled for 09:30 to 10:45 local time on Wednesday 11 February Michele Neylon:I don't think I can make the meeting Michele Neylon:I'm not 100% sure Michele Neylon:but I suspect I can't Marika Konings:See the Wednesday schedule at http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule-full#11feb15 Michele Neylon:I also can't make the call next Tuesday as I'll busy beating up my cctld Terri Agnew:Welcome Kiran Malancharuvil steve metalitz:Agree that one day may not be enough to discuss it @Kathy. Disclosure is a major issue. Holly Raiche:I think Kathy's point is that whatever is put into the report needs group discussion Holly Raiche:@ steve - the language in general needs working on Terri Agnew:Welcome David Cake Michele Neylon:+1 steve metalitz:@Holly 15 is intended to be part of the glossary you seek Holly Raiche:@ steve - I didn't pick tht up - so we can work on that??? steve metalitz:@Don I think we got through 17 last week. Kathy:Do you want to read it outloud Don? Kathy:tx! Holly Raiche:Rather than a standardised form, what about a list of elements? Michele Neylon:Holly - exactly Michele Neylon:standardised templates seem to cause more headaches than anything else Kathy:standardized elements? Kathy:certain standardized elements? Kathy:(playing with wording) Michele Neylon:why on earth does ICANN expect a French registrant to deal with emails in English? (sure you can provide a translation, but you still need to send the notifce in English as well!) Holly Raiche:@ Kathy - that was what I was thinking Michele Neylon:(or Japanese or Spanish .. or any nationality) Vicky Sheckler:apologies, but I need to leave the call Terri Agnew:goodbye Vicky Luc Seufer:Michele, you man of little faith, ICANN would indeed provide translations like they did for the WDRP notices.. now wait... it's still pending Terri Agnew:Welcome Volker Greimann Michele Neylon:Luc - the current WDRP policy content refers to the 2009 contract .. Volker Greimann:apologies. Sick at home and just woke up Michele Neylon:Volker - you're fired! Luc Seufer:TMI Volker Holly Raiche:I love the concept of firing volunteeers! Luc Seufer:(but please confim that you are wearing your Star Trek jamas) Kiran Malancharuvil:hope its nothing serious and the baby is okay! val sherman:Could we reflect this concept in bullet one? Kathy:Where feasible and when time allows, the customer should be able to choose it new P/P provider Volker Greimann:Akira is well, and I am just dealing with a severe cold Paul McGrady:Agree with Kathy and Steve Luc Seufer:no sound here? Has a car drove into DOn's house again? Luc Seufer:;-) Bladel:"while most...." "some believed that..." Kiran Malancharuvil:Agree with Justin Luc Seufer:agree with James Michele Neylon:agree with James val sherman:+1 Justin Chris Pelling:+1 James Michele Neylon:oh I like James' wording Bladel:Yes. Registrar Obligations are in Section 3 of the RAA. Marika Konings:We'll look into it Bladel:Abuse contact is sec. 3.18 Marika Konings:thanks James! Chris Pelling:Apologoes, 1600 have a registrars call Chris Pelling:thanks everyone Bladel:Registrar Information Spec contacts must posted per RAA sec.3.17. Bladel::) Volker Greimann:I need to drop in a minute for the next adobe call Frank Michlick:Need to drop off as well Bladel:Same as Volker, Michele, Graeme, Frank, Chris & others. There's a Registrar call at the top of the hour. :) Bladel:Thanks Don & Steve. Luc Seufer:that's the def. from the RAA, I am fine with it Volker Greimann:thx all Michele Neylon:asked and answered so Kathy:Tx Don and Steve for chairing! Frank Michlick:Thank you & bye Michele Neylon:sorry - gotta drop Michele Neylon:registrar call now Holly Raiche:Bye bye val sherman:Thanks Steve! thanks all:) Luc Seufer:Thanks to the triumvirate Don Blumenthal:Thanks for picking up Steve. Darcy Southwell:Thank you!

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Proposed agenda - PPSAI WG meeting
by Marika Konings 26 Jan '15

26 Jan '15

Dear All, Please find below the proposed agenda for the next PPSAI WG meeting. Mary will be circulating the latest version of the Draft Initial Report shortly. Best regards, Marika Proposed Agenda - PPSAI WG Meeting - 27 January 2015 1. Roll call/updates to SOI 2. Complete review of Executive Summary of Draft Initial Report 3. Discuss Category F 4. Planning for Singapore meeting (see http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-ppsai) 5. Next steps / confirm next meeting

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A quick note
by Don Blumenthal 21 Jan '15

21 Jan '15

This message primarily is for people who weren't on today's call but it's also to reinforce what I said. One of the few things that I said. :) I've had some medical things going on that kept me off the weekly sessions and interfered at times with keeping up in general. Thanks very much to Graeme, Steve, Mary, and Marika for keeping the project on course. I really appreciate what you did over the last month. I said a few words today and then lurked while Steve led the call. I hope to talk to you for more than three minutes next week. Don

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MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 20 January 2015 at 1500 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine 21 Jan '15

21 Jan '15

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 20 January 2015 at 15:00 UTC. at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20jan15-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Frank Michlick - Individual Justin Macy - BC Val Sherman - IPC Griffin Barnett - IPC Kathy Kleiman - NCSG Phil Corwin - BC Darcy Southwell - RrSG Todd Williams - IPC David Heasley - IPC Chris Pelling - RrSG Steve Metalitz - IPC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Carlton Samuels - ALAC Luc Seufer - RrSG Christian Dawson - ISPCP Alex Deacon -IPC Don Blumenthal - RySG Jim Bikoff - IPC Tatiana Khramtsova - RrSG Michele Neylon- RrSG Susan Prosser - RrSG Apologies : Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP Sarah Wyld - RrSG Holly Raiche - ALAC Richard Leaning - no SOI James Bladel - RrSG Stephanie Perrin - NCSG Marika Konings ICANN staff: Mary Wong Daniela Andela Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 20 January 2015 Terri Agnew:Dear All, Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting on the 20 January 2015 Chris Pelling:afternoon all Val Sherman:Hello all Michele Neylon:can't dial in for now - on another call Nathalie Peregrine:Susan Prosser and Carlon Samuels have joined Carlton Samuels:Morning all Graeme Bunton:Thanks Don Nathalie Peregrine:ChristianDawson has joined the calll Don Blumenthal:I figured I would do something substantive by asking for the SOI changes. Graeme Bunton:Section 1.3.1 Luc Seufer:As long as the implementation WG doesn't come up with crazy requirements (attchament siez limit etc) Kathy Kleiman:So footnote to para 12: However, each P/P Provider shall implement this "standardized form" in its own way -- including by website, email, etc Graeme Bunton:Sure, sounds fine Kathy Kleiman:I think that captures it Steve Carlton Samuels:@Kathy's +1 Mary Wong:@Steve, we can move up #16 to facilitate reading and organization Luc Seufer:Forward doesn't imply that PP provider will actually acknowledge (read) the communications but solely transmit them automatically to the applicable registrants, right? Alex Deacon:In 14 - Are the references to "Category E" and "Category B Question 2" out of context in the summary section? Chris Pelling:"automated telephone calls" Steve you mentioned this ? Kathy Kleiman:Automated phone calls??? Luc Seufer:thanks Steve Chris Pelling:yeah, what the heck is that ? Chris Pelling:Yeah I dont either Chris Pelling:Sorry, no to automated phone calls Chris Pelling:we cannot accept calls and them type them out to relay them Kathy Kleiman:It's confusing! Mary Wong:@Graeme, yes, SMS/text messaging came up but there was no agreement on how to deal with them, or whether to include a mention of them. Chris Pelling:I would pipe up but my voice is killing me Luc Seufer:or we remove it all together Chris Pelling:+1 Luc Carlton Samuels:We should leave it open to other forms of communications! Carlton Samuels:@Steve: Yes +1 Mary Wong:@Steve, @Carlton, that was the idea :) Luc Seufer:can't wait for hologram calls! Kathy Kleiman:Does 16 work with regard to Reveal? Kathy Kleiman:I think so... Luc Seufer:its starts by stating so in its current version Val Sherman:Might it be better to say "any practice of providers" instead of "prevailing practice among providers"? Kathy Kleiman:+1 Steve, agree OK to delete relay in 16 Luc Seufer:I think so to Mary Wong:Shall we just delete the word "prevailing"? Luc Seufer:even if we wanted to I know of no technical system that could allow us to automatically reveal Kathy Kleiman:can you read it out loud, Steve? Kathy Kleiman:What is Category B, Question 2? Mary Wong:@Steve, that's right - the point you noted isn't one that we have WG consensus on yet, so it's in 1.3.2 instead. Kathy Kleiman:Tx Steve! Mary Wong:Noted, Steve, thanks :) Kathy Kleiman:Agree about making this understandable to all... Luc Seufer:RAA 2013 Mary Wong:Yes, it's from the RAA Kathy Kleiman:I don't think it should go in a footnote -- but perhaps a later paragraph Mary Wong:Use "a common" versus "the prevailing"? Kathy Kleiman:Switch 16 and 17? Does that make it clearer to anyone? Graeme Bunton:It's not outrageously incongruous to me. Perhaps Kathy is right and we should put it behind 17 Val Sherman:+1 Kathy Mary Wong:Oops, just saw typos in the first bullet point of 17 - will fix. Carlton Samuels:@Kathy re switching 16 & 17: Maybe it would Kathy Kleiman:Re: bullet 4, did we (WG) agree that P/P provider must respond to each and every request for a Reveal? Kathy Kleiman:Consider situations where the request is bizarre (e.g., diapers), or redundant/multiple (e.g., 25 requests) Graeme Bunton:We may want soem language in there to help with that, good point Kathy Luc Seufer:agreed Kathy Kleiman:how to revamp? Mary Wong:@Steve, yes I think that's right - we've assumed but should prob make it explicit Mary Wong:Absolutely! Luc Seufer:@Kathy by adding another bullet precising this apply to reasonable request in terms of their scope, number... Don Blumenthal: Yep. :) Mary Wong:For clarity - this language in #17 is carried over from documents from early October. Carlton Samuels:@Steve: +1 Kathy Kleiman:Tx Steve! Luc Seufer:thanks Steve! Graeme Bunton:Thanks for Chairing Steve Carlton Samuels:Thanks Steve and all. Went smoothly! Val Sherman:Thanks all!

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Agenda for WG call on Tuesday 20 January 2015
by Mary Wong 19 Jan '15

19 Jan '15

Dear WG members, Here is the proposed agenda for our next WG call, on Tuesday 20 January 2015: 1. Roll Call/Updates to SOI 2. Finalize Executive Summary of the draft WG Initial Report (attached, with correct date to reflect that we are now in 2015, not 2014 thanks, Don!) 3. Discuss Category F (see pp. 53-59 of the attached, with particular reference to the sections marked ³TBA²) 4. Next steps/next meeting Do note that the attached draft Initial Report is that sent to the WG last week, on 13 January, and reflects the updates to the Executive Summary that were discussed at the previous meeting on 6 January. As such, please review this document instead of the original that was circulated in mid-December 2014. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] [gnso-secs] MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 06 January 2015 at 1500 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine 14 Jan '15

14 Jan '15

With updated mp3 link: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-06jan15-en.mp3 Apologies for the inconvenience! Nathalie From: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew(a)icann.org<mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 8:49 PM To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-secs] MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 06 January 2015 at 1500 UTC Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 06 January 2015 at 15:00 UTC. at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20150106-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Frank Michlick – Individual Justin Macy - BC Val Sherman – IPC Theo Geurts - RrSG Stephanie Perrin - NCSG James Bladel – RrSG Griffin Barnett – IPC Kathy Kleiman – NCSG Phil Corwin – BC Richard Leaning – no SOI Darcy Southwell – RrSG Todd Williams – IPC David Heasley - IPC Paul McGrady – IPC Volker Greimann – RrSG Chris Pelling - RrSG Steve Metalitz - IPC Graeme Bunton – RrSG Vicky Scheckler – IPC Holly Raiche – ALAC Carlton Samuels – ALAC Luc Seufer – RrSG Susan Kawaguchi - BC Alex Deacon -IPC Keith Kupferschmid – IPC Christain Dawson – ISPCP Apologies : Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP Sarah Wyld – RrSG Don Blumenthal – RySG Kiran Malancharuvil – IPC John Horton - BC ICANN staff: Mary Wong Marika Konings Daniela Andela Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 06 January 2015 Terri Agnew:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting on the 06 January 2015 Graeme Bunton:That's an old agenda, no? Holly Raiche:The agenda does say 23 December and doesn't reflect the email spelling out what would happen on this call Mary Wong:Hi Graeme and Holly (aka early birds! :) - all fixed now :) Theo Geurts:greetings all. Graeme Bunton:Waiting another minute or two for stragglers richard leaning:hello all Terri Agnew:@Graeme, we are unable to hear you vicky sheckler:hi Terri Agnew:Welcome Vicky Sheckler and Keith Kupferschmid Keith Kupferschmid:sorry for joining late Terri Agnew:Welcome Stephanie Perrin and Frank Michlick Frank Michlick:Sorry for being late. Terri Agnew:Phil Corwin has joined audio Theo Geurts::) Terri Agnew:Welcome Chris Pelling Philip Corwin:Good morning all. 2nd of 3 ICANN calls today vicky sheckler:FWIW, i think its better to wait Chris Pelling:Sorry I am late Chris Pelling:Afternoon all Kathy:+1 James Christian Dawson:Apologize for tardiness Holly Raiche:Just a remindere that the existing specification is in force until 2017! Chris Pelling:Yeah, rushing this is not a good idea vicky sheckler:agree w/ chris vicky sheckler:i will be at the intersessional val sherman:+1 Steve -- we really haven't focused on reveal as much as on other areas. I support waiting to more fully develop our positions on this subject. val sherman:I will be at intercessional Holly Raiche:I'll be on the call steve metalitz:I will be at intersessional Darcy Southwell:I'll be on the call Mary Wong:Even without a WG call next week there will still be three more WG calls before Singapore Kathy:I'll be at intersessional Theo Geurts:i'll be on call Todd Williams:I'll be away richard leaning 2:as you all know am LE and represent the EU, it would be good to talk about cat f with my Collegues in singapore Chris Pelling:ill be on the call Stephanie Perrin:I will be in DC next week and not able to make the call Frank Michlick:I might not make it since I'll be at Namescon, but was planning on trying. steve metalitz:+1 Graeme re thanks to staff Terri Agnew:Welcome Carlton Samuels Carlton Samuels:Hi All, late in arriving but here and now Philip Corwin:I will also be at Namescon and will likely miss the call if it is held next week Holly Raiche:Hi Carlton Luc Seufer:I am not waiving any right to the formal reading of this report! Terri Agnew:Welcome Christian Dawson Mary Wong:@Alex, noted and thanks Kathy:@Mary and Marika: would it be possible to a redline of edits from today to the Report - so people can quickly see the proposed change? Kathy:changes? vicky sheckler:please note we are still reviewing the draft, and may have other comments/changes to propose Mary Wong:@Kathy, we sure can once we're done with the changes after today Mary Wong:We can extract the parts discussed and redline those. steve metalitz:+1 Graeme re point 1 Kathy:@Mary, tx! Mary Wong:FYI much of the language here reproduces what was in our Prelim Recs - but yes, the WG can agree to change them upon a comprehensive review of eveything together Mary Wong:@Alex, @Graeme, would that apply only to the second sentence? Darcy Southwell:My audio stopped working Darcy Southwell:I'll type my comment Mary Wong:i.e. non-Affiliated providers would still have to validate/verify; its just the re-verification that affects Affiliations? Alex Deacon:@Mary - second sentence only. Terri Agnew:@Darcy, please let me know if you prefer us to dial out to you vicky sheckler:thx mary val sherman:Would it be helpful to more generally clarify upfront that the accreditation scheme applies to affiliated and unaffiliated providers? Mary Wong:Thanks Alex val sherman:+1 Kathy steve metalitz:+1 Kathy Darcy Southwell:No Mary Wong:@Kathy can your repeat your suggestion? Kathy:@Mary, sure. I'll type it here... Darcy Southwell:In 1.3.1(3) we should clarify that verification/validation is required by P/P providers unless that P/P provider is affiliated with the registrar of record. Kathy:Domain name registration involving p/p providers should be clearly labelled as such in the Whois, and can be done with existing fields. Kathy:continuing... footnote: The WG has also explored the idea that the label might also be implemented by adding another field to Whois - and the questions that might raise. Luc Seufer:@James replacing may by need? Holly Raiche:@ Luc- I think we agreed on must Mary Wong:@Graeme, @James - yes, that was the concern Luc Seufer:@Holly thanks: good val sherman:+ James -- to separate these points. Kathy:+1 James - and dividing up the one bullet into 3 bullets makes it much clearer! Carlton Samuels:@James +1 Kathy:So perhaps a footnote to #6... Chris Pelling:+a James Chris Pelling:+1 James even Luc Seufer:Agreed. Holly Raiche:Agree Kathy:Graeme - can you please read the footnote too? James Bladel:Sounds like #7 is saying the same thing three different ways/times. Holly Raiche:@ James - I think the point is trying to cover all the arguments that were made Mary Wong:@Holly, yes Carlton Samuels:#7 Seems more pernickety than necessary. How will the decision on type of commercial activity be determined? Carlton Samuels:And, who will decide the ones beyond the pale? Holly Raiche:@ carlton - that was exactly the issue - how would you tell anyway James Bladel:"should be prohibited" Mary Wong:@JKathy, yes I just saw that - I left in a "not" when I should not have Carlton Samuels:@Kathy: +1. Say it more directly! Stephanie Perrin:+1 Kathy Kathy:@edit... there is no consensus agreement on barried proxies to certain types of legal commercial activities. Kathy:lol Kathy:sorry.. barring proxies... James Bladel::) Holly Raiche:Have we discussed what is part of an accreditation requirement? Holly Raiche:@ James agreed Holly Raiche:Agree should be bi-directional Carlton Samuels:@Holly: It was something that was said and accepted Holly Raiche:Really isn't an issue - as long as - as per James - is bi-directional Carlton Samuels:@Mary: Yes, tht was the context in which it was discussed Mary Wong:@Graeme, yes exactly Stephanie Perrin:@Graeme absolutely. Stephanie Perrin:@James, you are not alone. Totally agree vicky sheckler:+1 with Steve Metalitz's comments Mary Wong:@James, would changing the word "examples" to "starting points" help? Note that the language in the PIC and the Safeguard is very similar anyway Kathy:+1 Holly: links would be useful - and text too vicky sheckler:have to run to another meeting - apologies Frank Michlick:Thank you everyone - see you at Namescon Kathy:Tx Graeme! Holly Raiche:@ Graeme - well done Stephanie Perrin:I like starting points better...but I do think it is in principle better to not cite that GAC advice James Bladel:Please accept my apologies for next Tuesday. :) Carlton Samuels:Thank yuo Luc Seufer:Thanks val sherman:Thanks All

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Updated draft Initial Report - please send comments/suggestions to this list ahead of the next call
by Mary Wong 13 Jan '15

13 Jan '15

Dear WG members, Please find attached an updated version of the draft Initial Report that was first circulated on 19 December 2014. This update reflects the discussion and agreement reached during the last WG call on 6 January 2015, when the WG reviewed Section 1.3.1 of the draft report (stopping at Recommendation 12, i.e. just before Relay.) While staff has noted the need to ensure that any changes to these summarized recommendations are also reflected in the more detailed exposition of the actual recommendations in Section 7 of the report, we have yet to do so pending the WG¹s completion of its review of the report. Also attached is the template that the WG used in its deliberations on Category D Question 2, in relation to contactability and responsiveness of P/P service providers. James had asked that this be circulated again, to assist the WG to review what is currently summarized as Recommendation 8 in Section 1.3.1 of the draft report. The WG Work Plan has been updated to reflect the WG¹s intention to finalize all its recommendations including for Category F (Reveal) - by ICANN52 in Singapore in February, where it will present its recommendations to the community. The finalized Initial Report will then be published for public comment following the end of the Singapore meeting. Please continue to review the draft Initial Report, and send your comments or questions to this list ahead of the next call (scheduled for next Tuesday, 20 January), as Kathy has done previously with her suggestions for changes to the Executive Sumary. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4892 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Webinar: Interactive Presentation of the Initial Report of the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group
by Nathalie Peregrine 13 Jan '15

13 Jan '15

Webinar: Interactive Presentation of the Initial Report of the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group <https://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300&winname=addthis&pub=ra-52fcc7eb2…><https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-01-09-en#><https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-01-09-en#><https://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300&winname=addthis&pub=ra-52fcc7eb2…><https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-01-09-en#><https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2015-01-09-en#> The PDP Working Group on Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information has been chartered to determine whether contact information data should be translated or transliterated into a common language and/or script. The Group has published its Initial Report recommending not to make translation/transliteration of contact information mandatory but to allow for it on a voluntary basis. The public comment<https://www.icann.org/public-comments/transliteration-contact-initial-2014-…> period on this Report is open until 1 February 2015. To help the Community understand the Working Group's reasoning and to facilitate the submission of public comments, the Working Group co-Chairs will hold a 30-min webinar on Friday 16 January at 14:00 UTC. The aim is to present the preliminary recommendations and allow for an extended question and answer session, providing an opportunity for an interactive exchange between the Community and members of this PDPWorking Group. Webinar on 16 January 2015; 14.00-14.30 UTC To take part please RSVP via gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>

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