June 2014 - Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg

Pre-London Policy Update Webinar 12 June 2014 10:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine June 9, 2014

June 9, 2014

Please RSVP via <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1IGHH52kS_kRTJ83kytdaK4M3BswtiiMFbcxR39NiYJ I/viewform> this form. Remote participation details will be sent via e-mail the week of 9 June. The ICANN Policy Development Support Team will provide a Policy Update Webinar on Thursday 12 June at 10:00 UTC and 19:00 UTC, summarizing policy activities across the ICANN policy development community including the ongoing Transition of Stewardship of the IANA Functions, ICANNAccountability, and Cross-Community efforts. Updates will also be provided on topics from ICANN's Support Organizations and Advisory Committees: . ASO and RIR Updates . Curative Rights for IGO/INGOs . Data and Metrics for Policy Making . Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy Part D . Policy and Implementation . Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues . Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information . Framework of Interpretation Final Report . ALAC Policy Advice Activities . ATLAS II Overview . High-Level Governmental Meeting . GAC Advice Follow-up . RSSAC Restructure Update . RSSAC Caucus Call for Membership . SSAC Activities The two sessions are duplicates, scheduled to accommodate different time zones. Each session runs for 90 minutes and will be conducted in English only. The webinar will be conducted in Adobe Connect along with a dial-in conference bridge for audio. Participants will have the opportunity to ask questions at the end of each session. During the course of the webinar, questions may be submitted using the chat function in Adobe Connect. Recordings of the webinars will be made available. The Policy Development Support Team is always available to answer any questions via email at <mailto:policyinfo@icann.org> policyinfo(a)icann.org. Please RSVP via <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1IGHH52kS_kRTJ83kytdaK4M3BswtiiMFbcxR39NiYJ I/viewform> this form. Remote participation details will be sent via e-mail the week of 9 June.

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Agenda for WG meeting on 10 June 2014
by Mary Wong June 9, 2014

June 9, 2014

Dear all, The proposed agenda for the PPSAI WG meeting on Tuesday 10 June is as follows: 1. Roll Call/Update to SOIs 2. Finalize discussions on Category D, Question 2 (D-2) 3. Commence discussions on Category D, Question 3 (D-3) 4. (If time permits) Commence discussions on Category D, Question 4 (D-4) The relevant documents have been updated (where applicable) and uploaded to the WG wiki space at https://community.icann.org/x/O6nhAg. For your convenience, the current draft templates for D-2 and D-3 are also attached to this email. Please feel free to continue to respond to my earlier email of 4 June with several additional questions aimed at furthering discussion on D-2, for which Michele and Holly have provided their responses thank you! Cheers Mary

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Questions to frame further D-2 discussion
by Mary Wong June 9, 2014

June 9, 2014

Dear all, As noted during the call on Tuesday, we have undertaken to generate several questions stemming from the ongoing deliberations that we hope can stimulate further discussion on this list, with a view toward developing a preliminary conclusion for D-2. BACKGROUND: - As you¹ll recall, the question for D-2 is: "Should ICANN-accredited privacy/proxy service providers be required to maintain dedicated points of contact for reporting abuse? If so, should the terms be consistent with the requirements applicable to registrars under Section 3.18 of the RAA?² - Section 3.18 of the 2013 RAA specifies two forms of contact that a Registrar has to provide: the first is an abuse point of contact to whom illegal activity is reported in such cases the Registrar has to take ³reasonable and prompt² steps to respond. The second is a ³dedicated² abuse point of contact applicable only to consumer protection agencies, law enforcement and other such authorities for these it has to be on a 24/7 basis and the Registrar has to review a report within 24 hours. QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION: 1. Should accredited P/P providers provide a ³dedicated² point of contact or is it enough that they maintain and make available a point of contact with a requirement to respond (response to be determined)? 2. If ³dedicated², is what¹s currently in Section 3.18 sufficient? If not, what should that be? 3. On the need to respond to a report, Is it enough for the guideline/requirement to be the ³reasonable and prompt² standard in Section 3.18? If not, what should it be? Should there be a minimum time frame (if any) for a response (understanding that the response may not be an obligation to act on the report in all cases)? 4. What happens if it turns out action needs to be taken, but it may be action more appropriate for the Registrar rather than the P/P provider to take? We hope you will find these questions helpful in framing and informing the ongoing discussion. Thanks and cheers Mary

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REMINDER: PLEASE RSVP Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session
by Nathalie Peregrine June 5, 2014

June 5, 2014

Reminder: Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session These ongoing monthly sessions are for new GNSO WG participants to come together and discuss any questions they may have about GNSO Working Groups, procedures and/or processes. We know there is a lot of information to digest when you join a GNSO Working Group and these monthly meetings are an opportunity for newcomers and more experienced participants to meet in an informal setting without the pressure of "real work" that needs be done. The agenda is flexible. The presenters will be ready with a standard set of materials if people would like to discuss them. Feel free to submit questions, either in advance or at the beginning of the meeting, if there is a topic that you would like to explore in more depth . Providing useful answers to a wide range of questions is part of the reason why these meetings are Thursday 5 June at 12.00 UTC Thursday 3 July at 20.00 UTC Thursday 7 August at 12.00 UTC Thursday 4 September at 20.00 UTC Thursday 2 October at 12.00 UTC Thursday 6 November at 20.00 UTC Thursday 4 December at 12.00 UTC To convert to your local time zone, please see <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html. If you are interested to join the next meeting on 5 June or any of the future meetings, please let the GNSO Secretariat know ( <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> gnso-secs(a)icann.org) and we will send you the call details. If there are any specific questions you already have, or any overviews or introductions you think would be helpful (e.g. GNSO Policy Development Process or GNSO Working Group guidelines), please let us know in advance and we will prepare materials accordingly. Feel free to share this invitation with others that you think may be interested. We look forward to welcoming you at the next meeting! Nathalie Peregrine GNSO Secretariat

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MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 03 June 2014 at 1400 UTC
by Terri Agnew June 3, 2014

June 3, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 03 June 2014 at 14:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140602-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140602-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#june> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#june The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Steve Metalitz - IPC Kathy Kleiman - NCUC Justin Macy - BC James Bladel - RrSG Laura Jedeed - BC Sarah Wyld - RrSG Michele Neylon - RrSG Chris Pelling - RrSG David Cake - NCSG Jennifer Standiford - RrSG Christian Dawson - ISPCP Osvaldo Novoa - ISPCP Don Moody - IPC Darcy Southwell - RrSG Graeme Bunton - RrSG Don Blumenthal - RySG Luc Seufer - RrSG Phil Marano - SOI Todd Williams - IPC Jim Bikoff - IPC Frank Michlick - RrSG Holly Raiche - ALAC Susan Prosser- RrSG Kristina Rosette - IPC Val Sherman - IPC Todd Williams - IPC Tim Ruiz - RrSG David Heasley - IPC Griffin Barnett - IPC Tatiana Khramtsova - RrSG Apologies: Kiran Malancharuvil - IPC Paul McGrady - IPC Tobias Sattler - RrSG Stephanie Perrin - NCSG Libby Baney - BC Brian Winterfeldt - IPC Joe Catapano - staff ICANN staff: Mary Wong Amy Bivins Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/ Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg> https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 03 June 2014: Terri Agnew:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 03 June 2014 Graeme Bunton:First one in! Terri Agnew:You sure are Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all Val Sherman:Good morning Chris Pelling:afternoon all :) Chris Pelling:just waiting for the attendants to pick the phone up :) steve metalitz:enjoying the Thelonious Monk tune while waiting for coordinator to assist me momentarily Frank Michlick:Hell. Frank Michlick:erm Frank Michlick:Hello Holly Raiche:Great music! steve metalitz:Round Midnight Holly Raiche:Febulous number! Don Blumenthal:I'm jealous about the music. Adobe doesn't have it. Kathy:I think they should change the music to Rock Frank Michlick:Yep, we want music here too ;-) Bladel:Waiting on the Operator. Did they cut staff over there or something? Susan Prosser:i agree Kathy Holly Raiche:No Kathy - not with that jazz Chris Pelling:some status quo would be nice Chris Pelling:crumbs 4 mins and still on this music Don Blumenthal:Holly, agreed Kathy::-) Holly Tim Ruiz:Anyone getting in on the phone? Chris Pelling:hoora Don Blumenthal:Chris, is that a yes to Tim? Kathy:@Tim -- not me, stil waiting Val Sherman:@Tim -- on hold Bladel:finally. Chris Pelling:just got in Chris Pelling:to Don that was Holly Raiche:Agreed on the jazz Tim Ruiz:Got in! Terri Agnew:Todd Williams and David Heasley has joined Holly Raiche:So have you seen Miles live- FAB Terri Agnew:Griffin Barnett has joined Kathy:I'm in now too... Terri Agnew:Jim Bikoff has joined Mary Wong:@Michele, yes that is correct. Bladel:I wasn't aware it was optional. :) Bladel:That's why I'm so annoying in IRTP. Graeme Bunton:My job title was updated in my SOI, no other changes Mary Wong:Thanks, Graeme. Terri Agnew:Phil Marano has joined Don Blumenthal:It's not optional. I have found it annoying so I didn't do it until being corrected Terri Agnew:David Cake has joined Terri Agnew:Jennifer Standiford has joined Kathy:Sorry Don, my thought was that the follow-up work (now to do) is narrow and focused Don Blumenthal:Thanks for the clarification. Lots of audio cut outs here. Kathy:Agree with James Tim Ruiz:ICANN critical would be at a minimum anything required in the RAA and Consensus Policy, IMHO. Tim Ruiz:I would also include anything that this WG deems critical regarding any of the areas we are covering. Tim Ruiz:Reveal for example. Kathy:Yikes, more work... Bladel:Sure, but I think we would need more help. :) Kathy:Seriously, I would be happy to Bladel:Yes, same here. Just need some fresh recruits. Kathy:Agree - who can join us Kristina Rosette:not just you. happening to me too now. Bladel:Don is breaking up. Bladel:No problems on the phone bridge, tho. Bladel:I can hear tim. Michele Neylon:yes Holly Raiche:yes Tim Ruiz:Could anyone hear me? Terri Agnew:@Tim, yes but you were breaking up a bit Holly Raiche:Yes Kathy thks Holly Raiche:yes Susan Prosser:yes, Kathy Terri Agnew:Don is back Don Blumenthal:Maybe :) Kathy: Great, we have James, Holly, Kathy --- who else? Kathy:on the subgroup... Kathy:and adopt issues 1 and 3 for consideration in appropriate later sections, eg., relay Bladel:I don't heart them. Bladel:Maybe Don should dial in? Bladel:Clearly this chat room is haunted! Holly Raiche:One is tempted to comment about hearing voices Chris Pelling:that 24 hour contact is only for abuse * Kathy:Tx for the clarification, Michele! steve metalitz:@Michele, the issue is contactability, not necessarily response Kathy:would it be possible to post the RAA sections? Mary Wong:@Kathy for now they're summarized in the first para of the WG Response in Column 3 - I will find the link to the actual RAA. Mary Wong:Link to 2013 RAA and Specs: <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en Kathy:Great, tx Mary! Kathy:I like reading the full language iof RAA 2013 for 3.18 - it's pretty readable. Terri Agnew:as a reminder, please mute whennot speaking Terri Agnew:on telephone press *6 to mute or unmute steve metalitz:Let's remember that accreditation standards need to apply to p/p services not affiliated with registrars -- as well as those affiliated -- so registrar abuse contact may not be in a position to resolve. Terri Agnew:Tatiana Khramtsova has joined Michele Neylon:apparently "defamation" is illegal Michele Neylon:which is a problem Luc Seufer:@Steve under the 2013 RAA registrars have to escrow the underlying data Holly Raiche:@Michele - while it is 'against the law' it is a civiil ratherthan criminal matter Luc Seufer:so they have to be aware of it Holly Raiche:@ Michele - that's in the Australian jurisdiction Kathy:Plus, the allegation of defamation is not the same as the proof of defamation. Holly Raiche:@ Kathy - so true Michele Neylon:Under Irish law unfortunately the allegation is practically the same as being found guilty Michele Neylon:as it's nigh on impossible to defend against Kathy:In the US, in chatroom cases, there is protection provided in the process because allegations of defamation were used to try to disclose whistleblowers and other.... Michele Neylon:really badly written law steve metalitz:Should we kick off on D3? Michele Neylon:we have 3 minutes left Mary Wong:Under 2013 RAA "Illegal Activity" is defined as conduct involviing a Registered Name that is "prohibited by law". Graeme Bunton:I suspect we just hold on d3 for a week Kathy:Interesting discussion, all! Don Blumenthal:agrree pm D3 Don Blumenthal:on D3

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Documents for WG meeting on Tuesday 3 June
by Mary Wong June 3, 2014

June 3, 2014

Dear all, Following from the emailed agenda (below), please find attached updated templates for C-3, D-1 and D-2, and a new draft template for D-3. Please note that the C-3 and D-1 templates have been slightly revised since they were last sent out on Thursday 29 May for review and comment. Since no suggested edits or updates were received, we have worked with the Chairs to summarize the existing text describing the WG¹s discussions (as contained in the WG Discussion/Response column in each template) in the preliminary conclusions section for each of these two templates. Thanks and cheers Mary From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, June 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM To: "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: Agenda for meeting on Tuesday 3 June > Dear all, > > The proposed agenda for the 3 June meeting is: > 1. Roll Call/Updates to SOI > 2. Discuss next steps for the ³transfer issue² following Kathy and James¹ > report > 3. Finalize deliberations on D-2 > 4. Commence deliberations on D-3 (if time permits) > 5. Next steps/next meeting > Updated draft templates for C-3, D-1 and D-2 as well as a new proposed draft > template for D-3 will be sent in a separate email, to follow shortly after > this. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary >

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Today's call
by Don Blumenthal June 3, 2014

June 3, 2014

Thanks to Graeme for picking the discussion up on short notice, and to Terri for hurried efforts during the meeting to do a dial out. For anybody traveling to Paris who wants decent Internet connection or a landline that’s usable for conference calls, think twice before booking at the Novotel Eiffel Tower. Who knows if there is a relationship to today’s voices on the phone, but we had phantom voices coming through the conference room speakers yesterday.

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Agenda for meeting on Tuesday 3 June
by Mary Wong June 2, 2014

June 2, 2014

Dear all, The proposed agenda for the 3 June meeting is: 1. Roll Call/Updates to SOI 2. Discuss next steps for the ³transfer issue² following Kathy and James¹ report 3. Finalize deliberations on D-2 4. Commence deliberations on D-3 (if time permits) 5. Next steps/next meeting Updated draft templates for C-3, D-1 and D-2 as well as a new proposed draft template for D-3 will be sent in a separate email, to follow shortly after this. Thanks and cheers Mary

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