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Updated Transcription PPSAI Subteam 2
by Terri Agnew Sept. 8, 2015

Sept. 8, 2015

Hello Everyone, Please see attached transcription with corrected title. Apologies for any confusion. Kind regards, Terri From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Perrin Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 9:11 AM To: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Transcription PPSAI Subteam 2 Transcript is dated September 8 (in the title). Needs to be changed to August 31. kind regards Stephanie On 2015-09-01 9:25, Terri Agnew wrote: Hi Everyone, The original attached transcript seemed to have an issue. Please see attached version. Kind regards, Terri -----Original Message----- From: Terri Agnew Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:09 AM To: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: Transcription PPSAI Subteam 2 Dear all, Please find attached the transcription of the PPSAI Subteam 2 call on the 31 August 2015 Kind regards, Terri Agnew _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2

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Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Transcription PPSAI Subteam 2
by Terri Agnew Sept. 8, 2015

Sept. 8, 2015

Hi Everyone, The original attached transcript seemed to have an issue. Please see attached version. Kind regards, Terri -----Original Message----- From: Terri Agnew Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:09 AM To: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org Cc: gnso-secs(a)icann.org Subject: Transcription PPSAI Subteam 2 Dear all, Please find attached the transcription of the PPSAI Subteam 2 call on the 31 August 2015 Kind regards, Terri Agnew

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Transcription PPSAI Subteam 2
by Terri Agnew Sept. 1, 2015

Sept. 1, 2015

Dear all, Please find attached the transcription of the PPSAI Subteam 2 call on the 31 August 2015 Kind regards, Terri Agnew

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MP3 PPSAI WG SubTeam2 - Monday, 31 August 2015 at 1600 UTC
by Terri Agnew Aug. 31, 2015

Aug. 31, 2015

Dear All, Please find below the attendance and MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP SubTeam2 call held on Monday, 31 August 2015 at 16:00 UTC. Transcript will follow upon receipt. MP3: https://icann.box.com/shared/static/2eyp5ftx2ltdp6l3de6c0mmio6d84c6u.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=zZ8xDDIU4PY795Cika7Nmy-2FNugFnAwo9a…> Attendees: Kiran Malancharuvil- IPC Terri Stumme BC Susan Prosser RrSG Kathy Kleiman NCSG Stephanie Perrin NCSG Apologies: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid RrSG Christian Dawson - ISPCP ICANN staff: Mary Wong Terri Agnew Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday, 31 August 2015 Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Sub Team 2 teleconference on Monday, 31 August 2015 Kathy:Just lost Mary Terri Agnew:Welcome Stephanie Perrin Stephanie Perrin:Thanks, sorry I did not realize it was just the same old link Stephanie Perrin:I think we need it for accountability Kathy:I'm confused, there appear to be at least four documents Stephanie Perrin:I think it is more than a request....we have to follow normal procedures. Kathy:@Mary that sounds good Kathy:@Mary and All: I have no trouble putting in the commenters later... Stephanie Perrin:that would be wonderful.. Stephanie Perrin:can you put up question 2 please? Kathy:That's not what I said at all Stephanie Perrin:I will have to check the transcript....I am not sure that I said we are not making progress... Stephanie Perrin:If so I did not mean that, nor did I mean to indicate that the call for comments was a waste of time. It is extremely important to get input. and we got lots of it. Kathy:Disagree completely with what Kiran just said Kiran Malancharuvil:What is the justification for dismissing the comments that call for definitions? Kiran Malancharuvil:Just because you don't agree? Kathy:It's only a small fraction of the commenters who seek to drive down the definitions path Susan Prosser:I agree with positioning that sub team has not made a consensus Kathy:+1 Susan Kiran Malancharuvil:The content question is a red herring. If ICANN never took content (including commercial v. noncommercial) into account we wouldn't have any RPMs Kiran Malancharuvil:I would also support the "no consensus" position Stephanie Perrin:I will see how many folks I can line up to support my position Kiran.... Kathy:Tx you, Mary and Terri! Stephanie Perrin:Thanks very much! Slow going, but progress Kiran Malancharuvil:Thanks Mary! Susan Prosser:Thank you Mary Mary Wong:thanks all!

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PPSAI Sub Team 2 call on Monday 31 August at 1600 UTC
by Mary Wong Aug. 31, 2015

Aug. 31, 2015

Thanks to all who responded by way of this email I¹m requesting that the GNSO Secretariat set up the call-in details and AC room. Please watch your inboxes for the information they¹ll send around. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org From: "Prosser, Susan" <susan(a)domaintools.com> Date: Monday, August 31, 2015 at 00:57 To: Terri Stumme <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org>, "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] PPSAI Sub Team 2 - status update > I can make that work for a call tomorrow. > > > ~~~~ > Susan Prosser > VP, Client Services > DomainTools, LLC > > T: (206) 838-9060 > E: susan(a)domaintools.com > PGP: A2C4D2A4 > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Terri Stumme <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com> > wrote: >> I can be available for a call on Monday. >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: >>> Thanks, Lindsay! >>> >>> All - again, as the subteam is due to provide its report to the full WG this >>> coming Tuesday 1 September, shall we do a call on Monday to discuss the >>> questions/topics set out below? >>> >>> Is anyone NOT able to do a 1600 UTC call on Monday? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 16:02, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mary >>>> >>>> Many thanks for this. I can do a call on the Monday. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Lindsay >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 08:56, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello again everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Attached please find proposed language from Kiran and Christian following >>>>> the last Sub Team call, intended to address the comments from the Save >>>>> Domain Privacy and Respect Our Privacy petition and emails. As agreed on >>>>> the Sub Team call, the finalized language will be inserted into the Sub >>>>> Team¹s report to the full WG on Question 1. >>>>> >>>>> If we can get consensus on Question 1 via email, perhaps the call I¹d >>>>> proposed below can then focus on Questions 2 and 3 as well as any notes >>>>> anyone may have on the remaining comments that I¹d previously grouped into >>>>> a Question 4? Please let me know if that will work and if you think we >>>>> should convene a call either on Friday or Monday. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> Mary Wong >>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> >>>>> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 08:48 >>>>> To: <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> >>>>> Subject: PPSAI Sub Team 2 - status update >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> As this Sub Team is due to make its next/final report to the full WG next >>>>>> week (1 September), I thought I¹d write to follow up on the ³action >>>>>> items² noted after the last call we did on 12 August (below). >>>>>> >>>>>> On Question 1, I believe that Christian and Kiran will send proposed >>>>>> language to this group for your review and, hopefully consensus. >>>>>> >>>>>> For Questions 2 & 3, it was agreed that the Sub Team as a whole would >>>>>> likely need to further discuss its conclusions/recommendations. I will >>>>>> note here also that we have not yet discussed Question 4, though in that >>>>>> regard perhaps I can suggest that staff take a stab at summarizing them >>>>>> for your review. This suggestion is based on the fact that these >>>>>> represent a collection of comments that relate generally to our topic >>>>>> rather than specific responses to Questions 1, 2 or 3. >>>>>> >>>>>> As such, would it make sense for the Sub Team to try to do a call to go >>>>>> over the above, perhaps on Friday 28 August or Monday 31 August, >>>>>> presuming that everyone will have had a chance to send and/or read the >>>>>> latest documents by then? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> >>>>>> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 04:53 >>>>>> To: <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> >>>>>> Subject: Follow up from Sub Team call today >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Sub Team members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the benefit of those who could not join us on the Sub Team call >>>>>>> earlier today and to document next steps for this group, here are the >>>>>>> ³action items² that were agreed on by those on the call: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Approach to the Save Domain Privacy and Respect Our Privacy petition, >>>>>>> comments and statements: >>>>>>> * Kiran and Christian will work on draft suggested language for the Sub >>>>>>> Team in respect of Question 1. While everyone agreed that these comments >>>>>>> show a huge wave of support for user privacy to be respected and against >>>>>>> restricting privacy services based on the word ³commercial² used as a >>>>>>> distinction, there was no agreement that this general support is totally >>>>>>> dispositive of the various specific issues and options that had been >>>>>>> raised by the Working Group in our Initial Report. >>>>>>> * ADDITIONAL NOTE: I went and prepared a general summary on the >>>>>>> additional comments that accompanied the Save Domain Privacy petition >>>>>>> i.e. the additional comments that the organizers sent in, containing >>>>>>> specific comments from many of the signatories. I¹ll circulate this >>>>>>> separately, in the hope that this summary will be helpful as you >>>>>>> finalize the Sub Team¹s recommendations. >>>>>>> Treating Question 1 as a ³threshold² question to Questions 2 and 3: >>>>>>> * It was agreed that this may not be possible, since some comments noted >>>>>>> that the answer to Question 1 might depend on the answer to Question 2. >>>>>>> It was suggested that Question 2 might in fact be a more appropriate >>>>>>> ³threshold² question, although that was not how it was framed in the >>>>>>> Initial Report. >>>>>>> Next steps: >>>>>>> * Sub Team to discuss draft language from Kiran and Christian (next >>>>>>> week?) >>>>>>> * Sub Team to continue review of the summary analysis to Questions 1 & >>>>>>> 2, and possibly also 3 as well >>>>>>> Please note that the WG Work Plan currently has this Sub Team scheduled >>>>>>> to provide its final recommended actions on Section 1.3.3 to the full WG >>>>>>> on 1 September (i.e. about two and a half weeks from now). Assuming you >>>>>>> think that is a realistic deadline, this would seem to call for at least >>>>>>> one call late next week or early the following week, prior to which >>>>>>> hopefully you will have had the chance to review all the documents >>>>>>> prepared by Lindsay and Terri, and the forthcoming proposed language >>>>>>> from Kiran and Christian. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>>>> >>>>> <Sub Team 2 - proposed language on SDP & ROP comments - updated 27 >>>>> August.docx> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> >> >> >> -- >> Terri Stumme >> Intelligence Analyst >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >

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PPSAI Sub Team 2 - status update
by Mary Wong Aug. 30, 2015

Aug. 30, 2015

Hello everyone, As this Sub Team is due to make its next/final report to the full WG next week (1 September), I thought I¹d write to follow up on the ³action items² noted after the last call we did on 12 August (below). On Question 1, I believe that Christian and Kiran will send proposed language to this group for your review and, hopefully consensus. For Questions 2 & 3, it was agreed that the Sub Team as a whole would likely need to further discuss its conclusions/recommendations. I will note here also that we have not yet discussed Question 4, though in that regard perhaps I can suggest that staff take a stab at summarizing them for your review. This suggestion is based on the fact that these represent a collection of comments that relate generally to our topic rather than specific responses to Questions 1, 2 or 3. As such, would it make sense for the Sub Team to try to do a call to go over the above, perhaps on Friday 28 August or Monday 31 August, presuming that everyone will have had a chance to send and/or read the latest documents by then? Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 04:53 To: <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> Subject: Follow up from Sub Team call today > Hello Sub Team members, > > For the benefit of those who could not join us on the Sub Team call earlier > today and to document next steps for this group, here are the ³action items² > that were agreed on by those on the call: > > Approach to the Save Domain Privacy and Respect Our Privacy petition, comments > and statements: > * Kiran and Christian will work on draft suggested language for the Sub Team > in respect of Question 1. While everyone agreed that these comments show a > huge wave of support for user privacy to be respected and against restricting > privacy services based on the word ³commercial² used as a distinction, there > was no agreement that this general support is totally dispositive of the > various specific issues and options that had been raised by the Working Group > in our Initial Report. > * ADDITIONAL NOTE: I went and prepared a general summary on the additional > comments that accompanied the Save Domain Privacy petition i.e. the additional > comments that the organizers sent in, containing specific comments from many > of the signatories. I¹ll circulate this separately, in the hope that this > summary will be helpful as you finalize the Sub Team¹s recommendations. > Treating Question 1 as a ³threshold² question to Questions 2 and 3: > * It was agreed that this may not be possible, since some comments noted that > the answer to Question 1 might depend on the answer to Question 2. It was > suggested that Question 2 might in fact be a more appropriate ³threshold² > question, although that was not how it was framed in the Initial Report. > Next steps: > * Sub Team to discuss draft language from Kiran and Christian (next week?) > * Sub Team to continue review of the summary analysis to Questions 1 & 2, and > possibly also 3 as well > Please note that the WG Work Plan currently has this Sub Team scheduled to > provide its final recommended actions on Section 1.3.3 to the full WG on 1 > September (i.e. about two and a half weeks from now). Assuming you think that > is a realistic deadline, this would seem to call for at least one call late > next week or early the following week, prior to which hopefully you will have > had the chance to review all the documents prepared by Lindsay and Terri, and > the forthcoming proposed language from Kiran and Christian. > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >

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Follow up from Sub Team call today
by Mary Wong Aug. 14, 2015

Aug. 14, 2015

Hello Sub Team members, For the benefit of those who could not join us on the Sub Team call earlier today and to document next steps for this group, here are the ³action items² that were agreed on by those on the call: Approach to the Save Domain Privacy and Respect Our Privacy petition, comments and statements: * Kiran and Christian will work on draft suggested language for the Sub Team in respect of Question 1. While everyone agreed that these comments show a huge wave of support for user privacy to be respected and against restricting privacy services based on the word ³commercial² used as a distinction, there was no agreement that this general support is totally dispositive of the various specific issues and options that had been raised by the Working Group in our Initial Report. * ADDITIONAL NOTE: I went and prepared a general summary on the additional comments that accompanied the Save Domain Privacy petition i.e. the additional comments that the organizers sent in, containing specific comments from many of the signatories. I¹ll circulate this separately, in the hope that this summary will be helpful as you finalize the Sub Team¹s recommendations. Treating Question 1 as a ³threshold² question to Questions 2 and 3: * It was agreed that this may not be possible, since some comments noted that the answer to Question 1 might depend on the answer to Question 2. It was suggested that Question 2 might in fact be a more appropriate ³threshold² question, although that was not how it was framed in the Initial Report. Next steps: * Sub Team to discuss draft language from Kiran and Christian (next week?) * Sub Team to continue review of the summary analysis to Questions 1 & 2, and possibly also 3 as well Please note that the WG Work Plan currently has this Sub Team scheduled to provide its final recommended actions on Section 1.3.3 to the full WG on 1 September (i.e. about two and a half weeks from now). Assuming you think that is a realistic deadline, this would seem to call for at least one call late next week or early the following week, prior to which hopefully you will have had the chance to review all the documents prepared by Lindsay and Terri, and the forthcoming proposed language from Kiran and Christian. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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Transcription PPSAI Sub team 2
by Terri Agnew Aug. 14, 2015

Aug. 14, 2015

Dear All, Please find attached the transcription of the PPSAI Sub Team 2 call held on 14 August 2015. Kind regards Terri Agnew

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MP3 PPSAI WG SubTeam2 - Friday, 14 August 2015 at 1500 UTC
by Terri Agnew Aug. 14, 2015

Aug. 14, 2015

Dear All, Please find below the attendance and MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP SubTeam2 call held on Friday, 14 August 2015 at 15:00 UTC. Transcript will follow upon receipt. MP3: https://icann.box.com/shared/static/8o7aoev7bm4k3j2dw3bfr1c91dszmmv5.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=zZ8xDDIU4PY795Cika7Nmy-2FNugFnAwo9a…> Attendees: Kiran Malancharuvil- IPC Terri Stumme BC Lindsay Hamilton-Reid RrSG Christian Dawson - ISPCP Susan Kawaguchi - BC ICANN staff: Mary Wong Terri Agnew Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Friday, 14 August 2015 Terri Agnew: Welcome to the Sub Group call for Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Sub Team 2 teleconference on Friday, 14 August 2015. Lindsay Hamilton-Reid:Can you hear me? Lindsay Hamilton-Reid:I can hear you guys Terri Agnew:Susan Prosser has joined audio Mary Wong:WElcome, Susan Mary Wong:We're talking about Q1 - whether P/P services for online financil transactions should be prohibited, including how to deal with the Save Domain Privacy petition Kiran:The legal conclusions were never challenged. The conversation is absolutely still on the table Lindsay Hamilton-Reid:It really depends on which jurisdiction. There are no specific rules on WHOIS under, for example, English legislation. Mary Wong:No offense taken! This has been a real learning experience - it's my first WG as a staffer! Christian Dawson:I won't fight the effort to define commercial or transactional but I do believe that the clear overwhelming support is for making domain privacy available for all, making the need for the definitions relatively moot. I know there's disagreement on this but I want my comment reflected publicly

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A very general summary of the comments that accompanied the Save Domain Privacy petition
by Mary Wong Aug. 14, 2015

Aug. 14, 2015

Dear all, To various degrees each Sub Team cc¹d here has been discussing how it wishes to approach both the specific language of, as well as the additional comments that accompanied, the Save Domain Privacy petition that was signed by 10,042 people. I did a quick skim of the additional comments that were sent in as an attachment to the petition and prepared the following summary based on the initial categories used by the Save Domain Privacy organizers in their statement. Some of this may be more relevant or useful to one rather than another Sub Team, but I thought it may be helpful to send it to all of you nonetheless. For Sub Team 2 on Section 1.3.3, while there were quite a few comments that did not distinguish between personal-use domains and websites with those used for commercial purposes, there were other commenters who linked their concerns over privacy or anonymity with their specific experiences as registrants or proxy customers of domains that are used in relation to online financial transactions of one sort or other. Please see the categories below for additional details. For Sub Team 3 on Annex E, on the question of whether ³verifiable evidence² means only a court order, no commenter expressly said this is what the phrase must mean, although a few noted that disclosure should only take place upon either a court order, warrant, due process or (in one instance) ³some legal document². Several mentioned the possibility of getting a subpoena or a warrant (with a few adding that this is due process that should be obtained from legal channels, law enforcement or a government agency). Others simply noted that these are existing channels that can be used without specifying if they believed these to be the only ones. One or two mentioned the need that disclosure be made only upon ³probable cause² or ³good cause² but without specifically linking this to a court order. As such, and if I may, I don¹t think we can say that there is unequivocal support from the additional comments to the petition for one specific meaning to the term ³verifiable² (should the Sub Team or Working Group wish to go down that path). While there were numerous comments that simply stated the commenter¹s wish for privacy and/or the need to respect the right to privacy in general terms, there were also numerous commenters that tried to relate their opinions to specific concerns. Generally, the most common concerns that can be gleaned from these additional comments to the SDP petition seem to be: * Doxing/SWAT-ing and concerns about physical safety (e.g. stalking, harassment or where registrant is in an unsafe or threatening location) * Anonymity needs for certain individuals and organizations (e.g. those serving at-risk communities, targeted minorities, political and religious activists) * Lack of separation of online business presence from personal information, in some cases for cost reasons and especially for home-based or small businesses (e.g. online shop owners, freelancers, self-employed persons, writers) * Registrants who use pseudonyms and pen names for legal reasons (e.g. adult entertainers, erotica authors) * Data harvesting concerns * Spam, scams and identity theft (e.g. phishing attempts) * Other legitimate need for privacy of domain information, e.g. new product launches, business competitors, pre-launch websites I hope some at least of this is useful to your groups as you try to complete your discussions on this question and move on to reviewing the other comments. I will try to upload the document that contains all these additional comments to your respective Sub Team wiki pages if I can (it is 554 PDF pages!); in the meantime, here is the link to it in the public comment forum: http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-ppsai-initial-05may15/pdfCL0NdiQmaL.pd f. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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CONFIRMING: Call to discuss next steps for Sub Team 2
by Mary Wong Aug. 13, 2015

Aug. 13, 2015

Hello again, and yes I was going to suggest we confirm tomorrow (Friday) at 1500 UTC, with apologies to Terri and though we have not yet heard from David. We will send you all the call-in details etc. as soon as we can. Thank you! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com> Date: Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 10:58 To: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Call to discuss next steps for Sub Team 2? > Agreed Kathy I thought it would be tomorrow at 1500 UTC as it seems most of > us could do it then? > > Thanks > > Lindsay > > Lindsay Hamilton-ReidLegal CounselDirect: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 > 091147 | Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.ukwww.fasthosts.co.uk > <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts > Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in England and > Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, > GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name of 1&1 Internet Limited. > Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in England and Wales. Registered > office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. > 752539027. > This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be legally > privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disclose, > copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies immediately and notify > 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 700. Any statements, opinions > or information in this message are provided by the author, not on behalf of > 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently confirmed by an individual who is > authorised to represent 1&1 and/or Fasthosts. > > > > From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On > Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman > Sent: 13 August 2015 15:56 > To: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Call to discuss next steps for Sub Team 2? > > Hi All, I've lost track -- have we set a meeting day/time? I think this week > is key... > Best, > Kathy > > On 8/12/2015 6:54 PM, Prosser, Susan wrote: >> >> Hello Mary, and all, >> >> I returned to work full time today. I can make the call tomorrow (Thursday) >> 1500UTC or Friday 1400 or 1500UTC. Admittedly, I am quite far behind in >> email and the status of the teams work. My contribution may be limited so do >> not schedule the call time based on my availability. >> >> >> >> thanks! >> >> >> ~~~~ >> Susan Prosser >> VP, Client Services >> >> DomainTools, LLC >> >> T: (206) 838-9060 >> E: susan(a)domaintools.com >> >> PGP: A2C4D2A4 >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hello everyone, thanks for the quick responses from those in time zones >>> friendly to rapid replies at this time! >>> >>> >>> >>> From the responses so far, we can have a call tomorrow (Thursday) at 1500 >>> but then Terri won’t be able to make it, or we can have the call on Friday >>> at 1500 but then we won’t have Christian. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kathy / Stephanie / David can you do either time? (I assume Susan will not >>> be able to join) >>> >>> >>> >>> All should we try for Monday or Tuesday next week instead to see if >>> everyone can make it? If there’s general consensus that this would be >>> better, then I’ll send around a quick Doodle poll. >>> >>> >>> Please let us know at your earliest convenience. Thank you! >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> >>> Mary Wong >>> >>> Senior Policy Director >>> >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>> >>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>> >>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Christian Dawson <dawson(a)i2coalition.com> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 17:47 >>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com> >>> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org>, "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" >>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Call to discuss next steps for Sub Team 2? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I can participate at the times listed Friday but not tomorrow. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Christian Dawson >>>> >>>> Chairman & Co-founder >>>> >>>> Internet Infrastructure Coalition (i2C) >>>> >>>> c: 703 623 2612 <tel:703%20623%202612> >>>> >>>> http://i2coalition.com <http://i2coalition.com/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 12, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for organising. I can do tomorrow any time and Friday at 1500 UTC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am on holiday for two weeks from Monday but I will be able to join group >>>>> calls and do any work that is required. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12 Aug 2015, at 21:41, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just following up on previous threads regarding doing a call amongst the >>>>>> Sub Team members this week I am not sure if you will be available >>>>>> either tomorrow (Thursday) or Friday, but I thought it was incumbent on >>>>>> me to ask. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As we have different members in different time zones, finding one perfect >>>>>> time may be tricky, but may I start by suggesting either tomorrow, >>>>>> Thursday 13 August at either 1400 or 1500 UTC, or Friday 14 August at >>>>>> 1300, 1400 or 1500 UTC? Please reply to indicate which, if any, of these >>>>>> slots might work for you. If none works for most, I will send out a >>>>>> Doodle poll for next week. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For a proposed agenda, how does the following look? >>>>>> 1. Decide if and where to place the statement from the Save Domain >>>>>> Privacy petition that supports “the use of privacy services by all, for >>>>>> all legal purposes, regardless of whether the website is “commercial”.” >>>>>> 2. Review Summary of Answers to Question 1** >>>>>> 3. Decide if it will be necessary to move to analyze Questions 2** and 3 >>>>>> 4. Decide appropriate treatment of additional, non-categorized >>>>>> responses** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ** NOTE: I’ve updated the numbers in Lindsay’s and Terri’s summaries for >>>>>> Questions 1 & 2 to take into account the comments that were contained in >>>>>> answers to other preliminary recommendations but that, following the WG >>>>>> call two weeks ago, were moved to our Sub Team. I’m glad to say that >>>>>> these were few, and I do not think they change the analysis. For Agenda >>>>>> Item #4, these are essentially what was originally included as Question 4 >>>>>> in the Review Tool and that have not yet been reviewed by the Sub Team. >>>>>> I’ve now broken them out and uploaded it as a separate document on the >>>>>> wiki for ease of reference). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> All the updated documents are here on the wiki: >>>>>> https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, everyone! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>> >>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>> >>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>> >>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>> >>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 12:46 >>>>>> To: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com> >>>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi again Kathy and everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to >>>>>>> the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, >>>>>>> following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further >>>>>>> analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other >>>>>>> questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and >>>>>>> looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may >>>>>>> be (for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be >>>>>>> helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another >>>>>>> Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to >>>>>>> Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as >>>>>>> Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the >>>>>>> moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through >>>>>>> Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or >>>>>>> if there is anything there to bring back to the WG. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things one, discuss >>>>>>> and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; >>>>>>> and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than >>>>>>> simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the >>>>>>> general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for >>>>>>> the Sub Team call next week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com> >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> >>>>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mary, >>>>>>> Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, >>>>>>> Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Kathy >>>>>>> : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's >>>>>>> decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and >>>>>>> responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, >>>>>>> even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold >>>>>>> question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto >>>>>>> either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial >>>>>>> Report, for instance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep >>>>>>> through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a >>>>>>> Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and >>>>>>> consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP >>>>>>> manual. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mary and All, >>>>>>> Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on >>>>>>> Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, >>>>>>> and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), >>>>>>> then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow >>>>>>> only if question #1 had a clear response the other way? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next >>>>>>> week? It might save all of us a lot of work... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Kathy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> : >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s >>>>>>> commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of >>>>>>> Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and >>>>>>> 2, >>>>>>> which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due >>>>>>> date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 >>>>>>> August. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your >>>>>>> collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in >>>>>>> respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to >>>>>>> these >>>>>>> questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the >>>>>>> WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall >>>>>>> assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review >>>>>>> what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single >>>>>>> report for the full WG following this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a >>>>>>> starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to >>>>>>> proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org> >>>>>>> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>> <stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca> >>>>>>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> >>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 >>>>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far >>>>>>> cant be there. Can we push to next week? >>>>>>> Stephanie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: >>>>>>> I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> Policy Counselor >>>>>>> MarkMonitor >>>>>>> 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> >>>>>>> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 >>>>>>> August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 >>>>>>> responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for >>>>>>> BOTH >>>>>>> Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we >>>>>>> try >>>>>>> to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest >>>>>>> documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: >>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 >>>>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to >>>>>>> Review Tool >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kiran and everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly >>>>>>> administrative, >>>>>>> i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move >>>>>>> forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on >>>>>>> remaining >>>>>>> tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the >>>>>>> petitions >>>>>>> and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will >>>>>>> clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 >>>>>>> July >>>>>>> overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly >>>>>>> relevant to >>>>>>> this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent >>>>>>> response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the >>>>>>> additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub >>>>>>> Team >>>>>>> - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two >>>>>>> additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you >>>>>>> prefer). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I >>>>>>> complete >>>>>>> the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary >>>>>>> recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, >>>>>>> and of >>>>>>> course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so >>>>>>> everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> , >>>>>>> "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will >>>>>>> listen >>>>>>> to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or >>>>>>> out, >>>>>>> can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> train seems to be getting away from us. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> Policy Counselor >>>>>>> MarkMonitor >>>>>>> 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> (m) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong >>>>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Lindsay and all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: >>>>>>> http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), >>>>>>> I’ll >>>>>>> need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a >>>>>>> couple of >>>>>>> times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a >>>>>>> popular >>>>>>> option!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> hos <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> t <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to >>>>>>> deal >>>>>>> with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even >>>>>>> sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> move forward. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a >>>>>>> poll? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> Legal Counsel >>>>>>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | >>>>>>> Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> and <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> 1 <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>>>> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [fh-1and1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>>>>> Fasthosts >>>>>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>>>>> name >>>>>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>>>>> Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>>>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>>>> should not >>>>>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>>>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>>>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>>>>> provided >>>>>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>>>>> subsequently >>>>>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>>>>> Fasthosts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong >>>>>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 >>>>>>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kiran and everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 >>>>>>> (for >>>>>>> Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 >>>>>>> (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work >>>>>>> into >>>>>>> “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign >>>>>>> up for >>>>>>> each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by >>>>>>> staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on >>>>>>> preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y >>>>>>> number >>>>>>> of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their >>>>>>> report to the WG. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works >>>>>>> best >>>>>>> for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub >>>>>>> Team >>>>>>> and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the >>>>>>> staff-provided template will be useful!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> nit <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> o <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >>>>>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> hos <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> t <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >, Terri Stumme >>>>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for >>>>>>> lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> K >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM >>>>>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in >>>>>>> addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. >>>>>>> Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if >>>>>>> appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> ready; thanks so much! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> hos <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> t <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >>>>>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>> Stumme >>>>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> nit <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> o <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, >>>>>>> "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also >>>>>>> hope >>>>>>> to have the document up and running too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> Legal Counsel >>>>>>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | >>>>>>> Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> and <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> 1 <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>>>> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [fh-1and1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>>>>> Fasthosts >>>>>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>>>>> name >>>>>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>>>>> Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>>>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>>>> should not >>>>>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>>>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>>>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>>>>> provided >>>>>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>>>>> subsequently >>>>>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>>>>> Fasthosts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>>>>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 >>>>>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> hos <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> t <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >; Terri Stumme >>>>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> nit <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> o <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous >>>>>>> comments). If >>>>>>> it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to >>>>>>> give a >>>>>>> brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a >>>>>>> team >>>>>>> of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others >>>>>>> to do >>>>>>> the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, >>>>>>> please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> this process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> hos <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> t <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >>>>>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 >>>>>>> To: Terri Stumme >>>>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> nit <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> o <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, Mary Wong >>>>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>>>>> "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Terri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on >>>>>>> question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the >>>>>>> relevant >>>>>>> questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> Legal Counsel >>>>>>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 <tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | >>>>>>> Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> and <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> 1 <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>>>> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [fh-1and1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>>>>> Fasthosts >>>>>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>>>>> name >>>>>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>>>>> Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>>>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>>>> should not >>>>>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>>>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>>>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>>>>> provided >>>>>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>>>>> subsequently >>>>>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>>>>> Fasthosts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] >>>>>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 >>>>>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> hos <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> t <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> nit <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> o <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; Mary Wong >>>>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking >>>>>>> longer >>>>>>> than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to >>>>>>> response #15. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> hos <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> t <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kiran >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no >>>>>>> idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different >>>>>>> question. I >>>>>>> should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is >>>>>>> going to >>>>>>> take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> far? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann >>>>>>> .or >>>>>>> g >>>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> implications on permissible use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone started the work on this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kiran >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Policy Counselor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MarkMonitor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 415-419-9138 <tel:415-419-9138> <tel:415-419-9138> (m) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong >>>>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the >>>>>>> subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) >>>>>>> suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please >>>>>>> accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t >>>>>>> need >>>>>>> this reminder! >>>>>>> If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are >>>>>>> scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would >>>>>>> greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we >>>>>>> will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. >>>>>>> Thanks again, and have a great weekend, >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 >>>>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>>>> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub >>>>>>> Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! >>>>>>> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email >>>>>>> discussions to this mailing list. >>>>>>> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments >>>>>>> received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to >>>>>>> have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word >>>>>>> document. >>>>>>> This is a comment from Web.com <http://web.com/> <http://Web.com> >>>>>>> <http://web.com/> , which I have now >>>>>>> added >>>>>>> as ROW 85 on >>>>>>> page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document >>>>>>> circulated previously. >>>>>>> I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. >>>>>>> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more >>>>>>> general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this >>>>>>> Sub >>>>>>> Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work >>>>>>> such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through >>>>>>> Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on >>>>>>> Question 2 >>>>>>> (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the >>>>>>> last >>>>>>> person do the remaining general comments? >>>>>>> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same >>>>>>> format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template >>>>>>> provided >>>>>>> or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per >>>>>>> this week¹s report. >>>>>>> Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together >>>>>>> (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations >>>>>>> to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. >>>>>>> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for >>>>>>> each >>>>>>> ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the >>>>>>> full >>>>>>> WG with this coming Tuesday? >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> <tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>>>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor >>>>>>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> >>>>>>> ont <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> >>>>>>> o <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> >>>>>>> .ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 >>>>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>>>> testing >>>>>>> SP >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Terri Stumme >>>>>>> Intelligence Analyst >>>>>>> <image001.jpg> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >>>>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >>>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >

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Call to discuss next steps for Sub Team 2?
by Mary Wong Aug. 13, 2015

Aug. 13, 2015

Dear all, Just following up on previous threads regarding doing a call amongst the Sub Team members this week I am not sure if you will be available either tomorrow (Thursday) or Friday, but I thought it was incumbent on me to ask. As we have different members in different time zones, finding one perfect time may be tricky, but may I start by suggesting either tomorrow, Thursday 13 August at either 1400 or 1500 UTC, or Friday 14 August at 1300, 1400 or 1500 UTC? Please reply to indicate which, if any, of these slots might work for you. If none works for most, I will send out a Doodle poll for next week. For a proposed agenda, how does the following look? 1. Decide if and where to place the statement from the Save Domain Privacy petition that supports “the use of privacy services by all, for all legal purposes, regardless of whether the website is “commercial”.” 2. Review Summary of Answers to Question 1** 3. Decide if it will be necessary to move to analyze Questions 2** and 3 4. Decide appropriate treatment of additional, non-categorized responses** ** NOTE: I’ve updated the numbers in Lindsay’s and Terri’s summaries for Questions 1 & 2 to take into account the comments that were contained in answers to other preliminary recommendations but that, following the WG call two weeks ago, were moved to our Sub Team. I’m glad to say that these were few, and I do not think they change the analysis. For Agenda Item #4, these are essentially what was originally included as Question 4 in the Review Tool and that have not yet been reviewed by the Sub Team. I’ve now broken them out and uploaded it as a separate document on the wiki for ease of reference). All the updated documents are here on the wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw Thanks, everyone! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 12:46 To: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) > Hi again Kathy and everyone, > > We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to the > Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, following > analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further analyze/make > recommended changes resulting from responses to the other questions. To my > mind that seemed different from actually collating and looking through those > other responses in the first place, since it may be (for instance) that some > comments in those other responses could be helpful either to another part of > the Sub Team’s analysis or to another Sub Team. Of course, since staff has > already compiled the responses to Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of > related comments (as Question 4), the Sub Team could agree that this is > sufficient for the moment. However, it may still be helpful for someone to go > through Question 4 (the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else > or if there is anything there to bring back to the WG. > > As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things one, discuss and > agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; and two, > discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than simply > acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the general > non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for the Sub Team > call next week. > > What do you think? > > Cheers > Mary > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org > > > From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com> > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 > To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> > Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> > Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) > >> Hi Mary, >> Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, Steve >> M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. >> Best, >> Kathy >> : >>> Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's >>> decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and >>> responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, >>> even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold question >>> is such as to render other questions and responses thereto either moot or >>> not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial Report, for instance. >>> >>> As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep >>> through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a >>> Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and consider >>> all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mary and All, >>>> Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on >>>> Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, >>>> and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), >>>> then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only >>>> if question #1 had a clear response the other way? >>>> >>>> It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next >>>> week? It might save all of us a lot of work... >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Kathy >>>> >>>> : >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s >>>>> commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? >>>>> >>>>> First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of >>>>> Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, >>>>> which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be >>>>> based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due >>>>> date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 >>>>> August. >>>>> >>>>> Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your >>>>> collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in >>>>> respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these >>>>> questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the >>>>> WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this >>>>> week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? >>>>> >>>>> Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall >>>>> assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be >>>>> scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review >>>>> what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single >>>>> report for the full WG following this. >>>>> >>>>> I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a >>>>> starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to >>>>> proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> Mary Wong >>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org> >>>>> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin >>>>> <stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca> >>>>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> >>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 >>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call >>>>> >>>>>> I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far >>>>>> cant be there. Can we push to next week? >>>>>> Stephanie >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: >>>>>>> I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> Policy Counselor >>>>>>> MarkMonitor >>>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> >>>>>>> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 >>>>>>> August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 >>>>>>> responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for >>>>>>> BOTH >>>>>>> Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we >>>>>>> try >>>>>>> to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest >>>>>>> documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: >>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 >>>>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to >>>>>>> Review Tool >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kiran and everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly >>>>>>> administrative, >>>>>>> i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move >>>>>>> forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on >>>>>>> remaining >>>>>>> tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the >>>>>>> petitions >>>>>>> and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will >>>>>>> clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 >>>>>>> July >>>>>>> overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly >>>>>>> relevant to >>>>>>> this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent >>>>>>> response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the >>>>>>> additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub >>>>>>> Team >>>>>>> - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two >>>>>>> additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you >>>>>>> prefer). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I >>>>>>> complete >>>>>>> the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary >>>>>>> recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, >>>>>>> and of >>>>>>> course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so >>>>>>> everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> <mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> , >>>>>>> "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> <mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will >>>>>>> listen >>>>>>> to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or >>>>>>> out, >>>>>>> can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> train seems to be getting away from us. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> Policy Counselor >>>>>>> MarkMonitor >>>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong >>>>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Lindsay and all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: >>>>>>> http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), >>>>>>> I’ll >>>>>>> need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a >>>>>>> couple of >>>>>>> times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a >>>>>>> popular >>>>>>> option!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> hos >>>>>>> t >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to >>>>>>> deal >>>>>>> with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even >>>>>>> sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> move forward. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a >>>>>>> poll? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> Legal Counsel >>>>>>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [fh-1and1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>>>>> Fasthosts >>>>>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>>>>> name >>>>>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>>>>> Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>>>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>>>> should not >>>>>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>>>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>>>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>>>>> provided >>>>>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>>>>> subsequently >>>>>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>>>>> Fasthosts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong >>>>>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 >>>>>>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kiran and everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 >>>>>>> (for >>>>>>> Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 >>>>>>> (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work >>>>>>> into >>>>>>> “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign >>>>>>> up for >>>>>>> each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by >>>>>>> staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on >>>>>>> preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y >>>>>>> number >>>>>>> of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their >>>>>>> report to the WG. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works >>>>>>> best >>>>>>> for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub >>>>>>> Team >>>>>>> and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the >>>>>>> staff-provided template will be useful!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> nit >>>>>>> o >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >>>>>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> hos >>>>>>> t >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >, Terri Stumme >>>>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for >>>>>>> lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> K >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM >>>>>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in >>>>>>> addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. >>>>>>> Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if >>>>>>> appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> ready; thanks so much! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> hos >>>>>>> t >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >>>>>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>>>>> Terri >>>>>>> Stumme >>>>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> nit >>>>>>> o >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, >>>>>>> "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also >>>>>>> hope >>>>>>> to have the document up and running too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> Legal Counsel >>>>>>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [fh-1and1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>>>>> Fasthosts >>>>>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>>>>> name >>>>>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>>>>> Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>>>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>>>> should not >>>>>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>>>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>>>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>>>>> provided >>>>>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>>>>> subsequently >>>>>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>>>>> Fasthosts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>>>>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 >>>>>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> hos >>>>>>> t >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> >; Terri Stumme >>>>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> nit >>>>>>> o >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous >>>>>>> comments). If >>>>>>> it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to >>>>>>> give a >>>>>>> brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a >>>>>>> team >>>>>>> of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others >>>>>>> to do >>>>>>> the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, >>>>>>> please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> this process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> hos >>>>>>> t >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >>>>>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 >>>>>>> To: Terri Stumme >>>>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> nit >>>>>>> o >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >, Mary Wong >>>>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>>>>> "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Terri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on >>>>>>> question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the >>>>>>> relevant >>>>>>> questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> Legal Counsel >>>>>>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>> .co.uk> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> www.fasthosts.co.uk >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk> >>>>>>> <http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk <http://www.1and1.co.uk> >>>>>>> <http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [fh-1and1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>>>>> Fasthosts >>>>>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>>>>> name >>>>>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>>>>> Registered in >>>>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>>>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>>>> should not >>>>>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>>>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>>>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>>>>> provided >>>>>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>>>>> subsequently >>>>>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>>>>> Fasthosts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] >>>>>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 >>>>>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> hos >>>>>>> t >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >>>>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>>> nit >>>>>>> o >>>>>>> r.com> <mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> >; Mary Wong >>>>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking >>>>>>> longer >>>>>>> than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to >>>>>>> response #15. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>>> hos >>>>>>> t >>>>>>> s.com> <mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Kiran >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no >>>>>>> idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different >>>>>>> question. I >>>>>>> should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is >>>>>>> going to >>>>>>> take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> far? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>> gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann >>>>>>> .or >>>>>>> g >>>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 >>>>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> implications on permissible use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone started the work on this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kiran >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Policy Counselor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MarkMonitor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong >>>>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the >>>>>>> subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) >>>>>>> suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please >>>>>>> accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t >>>>>>> need >>>>>>> this reminder! >>>>>>> If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are >>>>>>> scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would >>>>>>> greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we >>>>>>> will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. >>>>>>> Thanks again, and have a great weekend, >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 >>>>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>>>> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub >>>>>>> Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! >>>>>>> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email >>>>>>> discussions to this mailing list. >>>>>>> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments >>>>>>> received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to >>>>>>> have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word >>>>>>> document. >>>>>>> This is a comment from Web.com <http://Web.com> <http://Web.com>, which >>>>>>> I have now >>>>>>> added >>>>>>> as ROW 85 on >>>>>>> page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document >>>>>>> circulated previously. >>>>>>> I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. >>>>>>> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more >>>>>>> general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this >>>>>>> Sub >>>>>>> Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work >>>>>>> such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through >>>>>>> Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on >>>>>>> Question 2 >>>>>>> (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the >>>>>>> last >>>>>>> person do the remaining general comments? >>>>>>> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same >>>>>>> format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template >>>>>>> provided >>>>>>> or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per >>>>>>> this week¹s report. >>>>>>> Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together >>>>>>> (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations >>>>>>> to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. >>>>>>> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for >>>>>>> each >>>>>>> ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the >>>>>>> full >>>>>>> WG with this coming Tuesday? >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>>>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor >>>>>>> ont >>>>>>> o >>>>>>> .ca> <mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 >>>>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>>>> testing >>>>>>> SP >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Terri Stumme >>>>>>> Intelligence Analyst >>>>>>> <image001.jpg> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>

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White paper referred to by Kiran
by Mary Wong Aug. 12, 2015

Aug. 12, 2015

Hi Lindsay - the paper can be accessed on this page: https://community.icann.org/x/g4M0Aw. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com> Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 17:55 To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) >Hi Lindsay, > >I am not at my computer so cannot email an attachment at the moment. > >For clarity, it was not my paper, it was submitted by another WG member, >perhaps LegitScript and/or Faegre/FWD Strategies. I would definitely >encourage a look before making a determination about current legislation. >It is an initial survey of just that, and while we had hoped it would >encourage further dialogue, research and discussion, the opponents of the >distinction largely ignored it. > >It is referenced in the statement that we submitted to the initial report >in favor of the transactional distinction and there is a link. > >K > >Kiran Malancharuvil >Policy Counselor >MarkMonitor >415-419-9138 (m) > >Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > >On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com>> wrote: > >Hi Kiran > >I have not had the opportunity to read your paper so I cannot comment. I >will, however, try to view as I do not think it is illegal under current >legislation. > >If you could email it to me in the interests of speed, I would be >grateful. > >Many thanks > >Lindsay > >Sent from my iPhone > >On 12 Aug 2015, at 22:34, Kiran Malancharuvil ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com>> wrote: > >I agree that this statement is directly applicable to our issue. I >disagree that the meaning is unambiguous, and believe that this >statement, like others, suffers from poor drafting. Is the use of >privacy and proxy services for websites engaged in active financial >transactions (taking your credit card, Paypal or other payment >information) legal? I believe there were several of us that presented a >legal summary which challenged the legality of this. While other opposed >the “white paper,” I do not recall seeing any attempt of legal analysis >from that opposition. I believe this question is still on the table. > >Thanks, > >Kiran > > >Kiran Malancharuvil >Policy Counselor >MarkMonitor >415.222.8318 (t) >415.419.9138 (m) >www.markmonitor.com<http://www.markmonitor.com/> > > > >From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >[mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman >Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:17 PM >To: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) > >Hi Mary and All, >Unlike Subteam 3, which is trying to interpret the meaning of the SDP >comments as they apply to the Court Order v. Annex E issues, the meaning >and application of the SDP comments here, all 10042 of them, is clear and >directly applicable. Adding them to the spreadsheet ensures their full >and fair evaluation alongside the other commenters. > >Additionally, there must be ways to run word searches against the SDP >supplemental comments added by many of commenters to see if they made any >additional points relevant to our subteam's work. > >Best, >Kathy >: >Hi Christian and everyone thanks for noting this point. As mentioned on >the last WG call, staff had not included comments or statements from >either the Respect Our Privacy template email or the Save Domain Privacy >petition in the templates to date, pending WG agreement on how best to >approach these. This past week, Sub Team 3 (for Annex E) has started >considering the statements from both groups that relate to “verifiable >evidence” for disclosure (Save Domain Privacy) and that information >should not be disclosed without a court order (Respect Our Privacy). > >Looking at the comments in question, the one specific point that would >seem to be relevant to this Sub Team’s review is the statement from the >Save Domain Privacy petition that supports “the use of privacy services >by all, for all legal purposes, regardless of whether the website is >“commercial”.” > >As Sub Team 3 has already noted, the petition was signed by 10,042 >persons, a number of whom also sent in additional comments specific to >one or more of the statements in the petition. > >If this Sub Team is going ahead with a call this week to review the >documents to date, perhaps the question of where and how to consider the >above statement can also be discussed then, or alternatively Sub Team >members may want to weigh in via email to this list with their >suggestions? > >Cheers >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > >From: Christian Dawson ><dawson(a)i2coalition.com<mailto:dawson@i2coalition.com>> >Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 16:22 >To: Terri Stumme ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) > >Colleagues, > >Thanks for the clarifications here on what it is we’re charged with. No >matter the charge, having the ability to review the submissions is going >to be useful. I’m getting spun up, trying to read up so I can help make >an impact. As I do I find I need to ask what might be a silly question. >The Public Comment Review Tool doesn’t seem to include the 10,000+ >comments from the Save Domain Privacy crowd. When will these comments be >listed as comments 90 to 10,090 (or so) on our Subteam 2 Public Comment >Review Tool? Seems like their comments in general are completely relevant >to subteam 2, question 1 about whether we should break out categories of >commercial transactions to bar proxy/privacy. > >Christian Dawson >Chairman & Co-founder >Internet Infrastructure Coalition (i2C) >c: 703 623 2612 >http://i2coalition.com<http://i2coalition.com/> > >PGP: 22DF5493 >Fingerprint: 7C95 A3BE 1E10 4864 8417 DCED B9E1 C8FD 22DF 5493 > >On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:44 PM, Terri Stumme ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> wrote: > >Hi Mary, > >Perhaps it would be best to refer it back to the WG; I wasn't really sure >what the responder was referring to -- I thought perhaps this comment >belongs under reveal related comments because many service providers give >their customers the opportunity to transfer to another service provider >when they receive notice of a "complaint" -- not sure -- is there a way >to contact the responder to ask his intent? > >On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >Thanks so much, Terri! > >I went back and checked the source of the comment, just to be sure. The >commenter basically answered the three questions that were posted on this >Section 1.3.3, taking care to include the actual questions. The specific >comment you highlighted came at the end, with no other specific reference >or pointer to any other WG recommendation or question. That’s why I put >it in the 1.3.3. Template even if it seems a bit out of place, so that >the Sub Team can decide if it’s more appropriate to refer this back to >the WG, e.g. as being a comment more associated with de-accreditation or >transfer, or something else. > >What do you think? > >Cheers >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > >From: Terri Stumme ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >Date: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:37 >To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >Cc: Kathy Kleiman ><kathy(a)kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>>, >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) > >I have completed a summary of Question 3 responses utilizing the same >format I used for Questions 1 and 2. > >I found a comment that is not related to the question, which is why I >believe we do need to review/analyze all of the comments received. > >Mary -- Question 3 -- Response #8. Mandatory provisions should be >included in an accredited P/P service provider’s terms of service, >because the customer should be given some time to look for another P/P >service provider. I would think giving them a week after being notified >by the P/P service provider is enough time to look and apply for another. > I would not think there would be any delays in getting another P/P >service provider, so I would not be against going as low as a 48-hour >grace period. This would give the customer enough time to protect their >information. > >On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >Hi again Kathy and everyone, > >We can check with Steve to make sure, but I thought that his request to >the Sub Team was for the team to consider whether or not they believe, >following analysis of Question 1, that there is a need to further >analyze/make recommended changes resulting from responses to the other >questions. To my mind that seemed different from actually collating and >looking through those other responses in the first place, since it may be >(for instance) that some comments in those other responses could be >helpful either to another part of the Sub Team’s analysis or to another >Sub Team. Of course, since staff has already compiled the responses to >Questions 2 and 3 and a more general set of related comments (as Question >4), the Sub Team could agree that this is sufficient for the moment. >However, it may still be helpful for someone to go through Question 4 >(the general comments) to see if they belong anywhere else or if there is >anything there to bring back to the WG. > >As such, the Sub Team can proceed to decide on two things one, discuss >and agree on whether the community’s answer to Question 1 is Yes or No; >and two, discuss and agree then on whether or not to analyze rather than >simply acknowledge the responses to Questions 2 and 3, and possibly the >general non-categorized comments as well. This could be the agenda for >the Sub Team call next week. > >What do you think? > >Cheers >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > >From: Kathy Kleiman ><kathy(a)kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> >Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 11:33 >To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] A possible approach (Re: Proposed call) > >Hi Mary, >Tx you for your email, but I'm just the messenger. It was our co-chair, >Steve M, who made the recommendation for time-saving reasons. >Best, >Kathy >: >Hi Kathy - staff will defer to the Sub Team and the Working Group's >decisions but nevertheless we would say that at minimum the comments and >responses to all questions would merit some collation and consideration, >even if ultimately the consensus is that the outcome of a threshold >question is such as to render other questions and responses thereto >either moot or not requiring modifications to what's in the Initial >Report, for instance. > >As such, we would respectfully suggest that at least a preliminary sweep >through these other questions and responses be conducted, so that as a >Working Group we can document that the group did indeed review and >consider all input received per the expectations of the GNSO's PDP manual. > >Cheers >Mary > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Aug 5, 2015, at 20:36, Kathy Kleiman ><kathy(a)kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> wrote: >Hi Mary and All, >Steve M. raised an interesting question when he was chairing the call on >Tuesday. As I heard it, he asked: if Question 1 is a threshold question, >and if there is an overwhelming response (as it was reported there was), >then do we even need to analyze the additional questions that follow only >if question #1 had a clear response the other way? > >It is a good question, and perhaps one we could discuss on our call next >week? It might save all of us a lot of work... > >Best, >Kathy > >: > >Hello everyone, > > > >Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s > >commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? > > > >First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of > >Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, > >which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be > >based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due > >date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 > >August. > > > >Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your > >collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in > >respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these > >questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the > >WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this > >week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? > > > >Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall > >assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be > >scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review > >what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single > >report for the full WG following this. > > > >I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a > >starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to > >proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. > > > >Cheers > > > >Mary > > > >Mary Wong > >Senior Policy Director > >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 > >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: ><gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> on >behalf of Stephanie Perrin > ><stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto. >ca> > >Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 > >To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call > > > >I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far > >cant be there. Can we push to next week? > >Stephanie > > > >On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: > >I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. > > > >Kiran Malancharuvil > >Policy Counselor > >MarkMonitor > >415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > > >Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > > >On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> wrote: > > > >Hello all, > > > >Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 > >August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 > >responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for > >BOTH > >Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. > > > >Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting > >this > >Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we > >try > >to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? > > > > > >FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest > >documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, > >and > >Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: > >https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. > > > >Thanks and cheers > >Mary > > > >Mary Wong > >Senior Policy Director > >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > >Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 > >Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to > >Review Tool > > > >Hi Kiran and everyone, > > > >As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly > >administrative, > >i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move > >forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on > >remaining > >tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the > >petitions > >and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will > >clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. > > > >Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 > >July > >overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, > >and > >picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly > >relevant to > >this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent > >response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the > >additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub > >Team > >- basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two > >additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help > >with > >incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you > >prefer). > > > >It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I > >complete > >the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary > >recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, > >and of > >course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to > >your > >material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so > >everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. > > > >Thanks and cheers > > > >Mary > > > >Mary Wong > >Senior Policy Director > >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Kiran Malancharuvil ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit >or.com> > >Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 > >To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > >Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos >ts.com>, > >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will > >listen > >to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or > >out, > >can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but > >this > >train seems to be getting away from us. > > > >I > > > >Kiran Malancharuvil > >Policy Counselor > >MarkMonitor > >415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > > >Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > > >On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong > ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.or >g><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > > > >Hello Lindsay and all, > > > >I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: > >http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. > > > >As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), > >I’ll > >need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a > >couple of > >times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at > >their > >earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a > >popular > >option!) > > > >Thanks and cheers > >Mary > > > >Mary Wong > >Senior Policy Director > >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > >Email: >mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org >><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > > > > >From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > > ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >hosts.com> > >hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> > >Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 > >To: Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.or >g><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > >Cc: >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > >Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >Hi all > > > >While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to > >deal > >with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even > >sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how > >we > >move forward. > > > >Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a > >poll? > > > >Thanks > > > >Lindsay > > > >Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > >Legal Counsel > >Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: >07720 091147 | > > > >Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid >@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@ >1and1.co.uk> > >and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> > >1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> > >.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http: >//www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts. >co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><h >ttp://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > > >[fh-1and1] > > > > > >? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > >Fasthosts > >Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > >name > >of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > >Registered in > >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > > >This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > >legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > >should not > >disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > >immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > >700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > >provided > >by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > >subsequently > >confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > >Fasthosts. > > > > > > > >From: > >gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto >:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > >[mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong > >Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 > >Cc: >gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >Hi Kiran and everyone, > > > >You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 > >(for > >Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 > >(for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work > >into > >“buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign > >up for > >each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by > >staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on > >preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y > >number > >of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their > >report to the WG. > > > >Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works > >best > >for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub > >Team > >and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the > >staff-provided template will be useful!) > > > >Cheers > >Mary > > > >Mary Wong > >Senior Policy Director > >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > >Email: >mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org >><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > > >From: Kiran Malancharuvil > > > ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >nitor.com> > >nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>> > >Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 > >To: Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.or >g><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > >Lindsay > >Hamilton-Reid > > > ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >hosts.com> > >hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>, Terri Stumme > ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto: >terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > >Cc: >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > >Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for > >lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. > > > >K > > > >From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > >Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM > >To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme > >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; > >gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in > >addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. > >Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if > >appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you > >are > >ready; thanks so much! > > > >Cheers > >Mary > > > >Mary Wong > >Senior Policy Director > >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > >Email: >mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org >><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > > >From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > > ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >hosts.com> > >hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> > >Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 > >To: Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.or >g><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > >Terri > >Stumme > ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto: >terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > > ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >nitor.com> > >nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > >Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >Hi Mary > > > >I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also > >hope > >to have the document up and running too. > > > >Many thanks > > > >Lindsay > > > >Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > >Legal Counsel > >Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: >07720 091147 | > > > >Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid >@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@ >1and1.co.uk> > >and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> > >1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> > >.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http: >//www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts. >co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><h >ttp://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > > >[fh-1and1] > > > > > >? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > >Fasthosts > >Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > >name > >of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > >Registered in > >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > > >This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > >legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > >should not > >disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > >immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > >700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > >provided > >by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > >subsequently > >confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > >Fasthosts. > > > > > > > >From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] > >Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 > >To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > > ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >hosts.com> > >hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>>; Terri Stumme > ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto: >terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > > ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >nitor.com> > >nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; >gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take > >on > >Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous > >comments). If > >it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to > >give a > >brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? > > > >Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a > >team > >of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss > >their > >findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others > >to do > >the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, > >please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff > >in > >this process. > > > >Thanks and cheers > >Mary > > > >Mary Wong > >Senior Policy Director > >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > >Email: >mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org >><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > > > >From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > > ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >hosts.com> > >hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> > >Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 > >To: Terri Stumme > ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com><mailto: >terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com><mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> > >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > > ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >nitor.com> > >nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>, Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.or >g><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, > >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > >Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >Hi Terri > > > >Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on > >question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the > >relevant > >questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. > > > >Many thanks > > > >Lindsay > > > >Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > >Legal Counsel > >Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145<tel:%2B44%20%280%291452%20509145> | Mobile: >07720 091147 | > > > >Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid >@1and1.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@ >1and1.co.uk> > >and<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> > >1<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk> > >.co.uk><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http: >//www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/><http://www.fasthosts. >co.uk/>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/><http://www.1and1.co.uk/><h >ttp://www.1and1.co.uk/> > > > >[fh-1and1] > > > > > >? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of > >Fasthosts > >Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in > >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading > >name > >of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. > >Registered in > >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate > >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > > > >This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > >legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > >should not > >disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies > >immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 > >700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are > >provided > >by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless > >subsequently > >confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or > >Fasthosts. > > > > > > > >From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] > >Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 > >To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > > ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >hosts.com> > >hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> > >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil > > > ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >nitor.com> > >nit<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >o<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com> > >r.com><mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com>>; Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.or >g><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; > >gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking > >longer > >than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to > >response #15. > > > >Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? > > > >On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid > > > ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >hosts.com> > >hos<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >t<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com> > >s.com><mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthosts.com>> wrote: > > > >Hi Kiran > > > > > > > >I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no > >idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different > >question. I > >should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is > >going to > >take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done > >so > >far? > > > > > > > >Many thanks > > > > > > > >Lindsay > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: > >gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto >:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > > > >[mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann > >.or > >g > >] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil > >Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 > >To: Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.or >g><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > >Cc: >gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > > > > > >Dear All, > > > > > > > >It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and > >the > >implications on permissible use. > > > > > > > >Has anyone started the work on this? > > > > > > > >Kiran > > > > > > > >Kiran Malancharuvil > > > >Policy Counselor > > > >MarkMonitor > > > >415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138><tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > > > > > > >Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > > > > > > >On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong > ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.or >g><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > >Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the > >subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) > >suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please > >accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t > >need > >this reminder! > >If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are > >scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would > >greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we > >will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. > >Thanks again, and have a great weekend, > >Mary > >Mary Wong > >Senior Policy Director > >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >Telephone: +1 603 574 >4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20 >603%20574%204889> > >Email: >mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org >><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.or >g><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > >Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 > >To: >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > >Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub > >Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! > >It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email > >discussions to this mailing list. > >Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments > >received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to > >have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word > >document. > >This is a comment from >Web.com<http://web.com/><http://Web.com><http://web.com/>, which I have >now > >added > >as ROW 85 on > >page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document > >circulated previously. > >I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. > >Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more > >general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this > >Sub > >Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work > >such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through > >Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on > >Question 2 > >(dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the > >last > >person do the remaining general comments? > >This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same > >format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template > >provided > >or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per > >this week¹s report. > >Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together > >(having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations > >to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. > >If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for > >each > >³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the > >full > >WG with this coming Tuesday? > >Thanks and cheers > >Mary > >Mary Wong > >Senior Policy Director > >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >Telephone: +1 603 574 >4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889><tel:%2B1%20 >603%20574%204889> > >Email: >mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org >><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > >-----Original Message----- > >From: > > > ><gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailt >o:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> > >on behalf of Stephanie Perrin > > > ><stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.c >a><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto >.ca> > >ont<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > >o<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> > >.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> > >Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 > >To: >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" > ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@ic >ann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > >Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > >testing > >SP > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo >/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo >/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > > > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo >/gnso-ppsai2 > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo >/gnso-ppsai2 > > > > > > > >-- > >Terri Stumme > >Intelligence Analyst > ><image001.jpg> > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@ica >nn.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo >/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ma >ilman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ma >ilman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ma >ilman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/ma >ilman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > >-- >Terri Stumme >Intelligence Analyst > >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > >-- >Terri Stumme >Intelligence Analyst >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2

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A possible approach (Re: Proposed call)
by Mary Wong Aug. 12, 2015

Aug. 12, 2015

Hello everyone, Going back to Lindsay’s original email suggestion and given everyone’s commitments and schedules, how does the following approach sound? First, let’s get some volunteers to take on the preliminary review of Questions 3 and 4 (which have many fewer responses than Questions 1 and 2, which Lindsay and Terri have already covered). The summary/analysis can be based on either Terri’s or Lindsay’s document formats. A possible “due date” for these documents could be a week from now, i.e. Wednesday 12 August. Secondly, the Sub Team can convene a call next week to discuss your collective agreement on what recommendations to make to the full WG in respect of Questions 1 & 2. Assuming that any additional entries to these questions (based on the forthcoming staff collation of comments for the WG’s recommendations #10-20) can be provided to you all by the end of this week, perhaps this call can take place next Wednesday or Thursday? Thirdly, a similar discussion/call on Questions 3 and 4, plus an overall assessment of the Sub Team’s recommendations on all the questions, can be scheduled for the week following, to give everyone a chance to review what’s been done. The final consensus can then be compiled into a single report for the full WG following this. I hope the above suggestions are useful, even if they are merely a starting point for this group to decide when and how best you’d like to proceed, and who is to volunteer for what. Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 14:51 To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call >I dont think it makes sense to meet if the ladies doing the work so far >cant be there. Can we push to next week? >Stephanie > >On 2015-08-05 13:43, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote: >> I'm speaking at a conference on Friday, and won't be available. >> >> Kiran Malancharuvil >> Policy Counselor >> MarkMonitor >> 415-419-9138 (m) >> >> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >> >>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 >>> August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 >>> responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for >>>BOTH >>> Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. >>> >>> Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting >>>this >>> Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we >>>try >>> to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? >>> >>> >>> FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest >>> documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, >>>and >>> Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: >>> https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. >>> >>> Thanks and cheers >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Wong >>> Senior Policy Director >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> >>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 >>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to >>> Review Tool >>> >>>> Hi Kiran and everyone, >>>> >>>> As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly >>>>administrative, >>>> i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move >>>> forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on >>>>remaining >>>> tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the >>>>petitions >>>> and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will >>>> clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. >>>> >>>> Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 >>>>July >>>> overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, >>>>and >>>> picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly >>>>relevant to >>>> this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent >>>> response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the >>>> additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub >>>>Team >>>> - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two >>>> additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help >>>>with >>>> incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you >>>>prefer). >>>> >>>> It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I >>>>complete >>>> the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary >>>> recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, >>>>and of >>>> course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to >>>>your >>>> material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so >>>> everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. >>>> >>>> Thanks and cheers >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> Mary Wong >>>> Senior Policy Director >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com> >>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 >>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> >>>> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com>, >>>> "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>> >>>>> Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will >>>>>listen >>>>> to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or >>>>>out, >>>>> can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but >>>>>this >>>>> train seems to be getting away from us. >>>>> >>>>> I >>>>> >>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>> Policy Counselor >>>>> MarkMonitor >>>>> 415-419-9138 (m) >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong >>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Lindsay and all, >>>>> >>>>> I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: >>>>> http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. >>>>> >>>>> As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), >>>>>I’ll >>>>> need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a >>>>>couple of >>>>> times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at >>>>>their >>>>> earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a >>>>>popular >>>>> option!) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> Mary Wong >>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> >>>>><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>hos >>>>> t >>>>> s.com>> >>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 >>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>> >>>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to >>>>>deal >>>>> with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even >>>>> sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how >>>>>we >>>>> move forward. >>>>> >>>>> Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a >>>>>poll? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> Legal Counsel >>>>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>>> >>>>>Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>>>and >>>>> 1 >>>>> .co.uk> >>>>> www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >>>>> www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>> >>>>> [fh-1and1] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>>>Fasthosts >>>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>>>name >>>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>>>Registered in >>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>>> >>>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>>should not >>>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>>>provided >>>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>>>subsequently >>>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>>> Fasthosts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: >>>>>gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong >>>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 >>>>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>> >>>>> Hi Kiran and everyone, >>>>> >>>>> You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 >>>>>(for >>>>> Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 >>>>> (for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work >>>>>into >>>>> “buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign >>>>>up for >>>>> each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by >>>>> staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on >>>>> preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y >>>>>number >>>>> of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their >>>>> report to the WG. >>>>> >>>>> Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works >>>>>best >>>>> for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub >>>>>Team >>>>> and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the >>>>> staff-provided template will be useful!) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> Mary Wong >>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>> >>>>><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>nit >>>>> o >>>>> r.com>> >>>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 >>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>>>Lindsay >>>>> Hamilton-Reid >>>>> >>>>><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>hos >>>>> t >>>>> s.com>>, Terri Stumme >>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>> Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>> >>>>> Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for >>>>> lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. >>>>> >>>>> K >>>>> >>>>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM >>>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme >>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; >>>>> gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>> >>>>> Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in >>>>> addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. >>>>> Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if >>>>> appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you >>>>>are >>>>> ready; thanks so much! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> Mary Wong >>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> >>>>><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>hos >>>>> t >>>>> s.com>> >>>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 >>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>>>Terri >>>>> Stumme >>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>> >>>>><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>nit >>>>> o >>>>> r.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mary >>>>> >>>>> I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also >>>>>hope >>>>> to have the document up and running too. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> Legal Counsel >>>>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>>> >>>>>Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>>>and >>>>> 1 >>>>> .co.uk> >>>>> www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >>>>> www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>> >>>>> [fh-1and1] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>>>Fasthosts >>>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>>>name >>>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>>>Registered in >>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>>> >>>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>>should not >>>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>>>provided >>>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>>>subsequently >>>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>>> Fasthosts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 >>>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> >>>>><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>hos >>>>> t >>>>> s.com>>; Terri Stumme >>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>> >>>>><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>nit >>>>> o >>>>> r.com>>; gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take >>>>>on >>>>> Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous >>>>>comments). If >>>>> it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to >>>>>give a >>>>> brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? >>>>> >>>>> Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a >>>>>team >>>>> of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss >>>>>their >>>>> findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others >>>>>to do >>>>> the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, >>>>> please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff >>>>>in >>>>> this process. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> Mary Wong >>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> >>>>><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>hos >>>>> t >>>>> s.com>> >>>>> Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 >>>>> To: Terri Stumme >>>>> <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>> >>>>><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>nit >>>>> o >>>>> r.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>>>> "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>> >>>>> Hi Terri >>>>> >>>>> Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on >>>>> question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the >>>>>relevant >>>>> questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> Legal Counsel >>>>> Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>>>> >>>>>Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1 >>>>>and >>>>> 1 >>>>> .co.uk> >>>>> www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >>>>> www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >>>>> >>>>> [fh-1and1] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of >>>>>Fasthosts >>>>> Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading >>>>>name >>>>> of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. >>>>>Registered in >>>>> England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>>>> Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >>>>> >>>>> This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>>>> legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>>should not >>>>> disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>>>> immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>>>> 700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are >>>>>provided >>>>> by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless >>>>>subsequently >>>>> confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>>>> Fasthosts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] >>>>> Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 >>>>> To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> >>>>><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>hos >>>>> t >>>>> s.com>> >>>>> Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>> >>>>><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmo >>>>>nit >>>>> o >>>>> r.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; >>>>> gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>> >>>>> I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking >>>>>longer >>>>> than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to >>>>> response #15. >>>>> >>>>> Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>>>> >>>>><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fast >>>>>hos >>>>> t >>>>> s.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Kiran >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no >>>>> idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different >>>>>question. I >>>>> should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is >>>>>going to >>>>> take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done >>>>>so >>>>> far? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: >>>>>gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>> >>>>>[mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann >>>>>.or >>>>> g >>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>> Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 >>>>> To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>> Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and >>>>>the >>>>> implications on permissible use. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone started the work on this? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kiran >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil >>>>> >>>>> Policy Counselor >>>>> >>>>> MarkMonitor >>>>> >>>>> 415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong >>>>>> <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the >>>>>> subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) >>>>>> suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please >>>>>> accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t >>>>>>need >>>>>> this reminder! >>>>> >>>>>> If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are >>>>>> scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would >>>>>> greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we >>>>>> will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again, and have a great weekend, >>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 >>>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>> >>>>>>> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub >>>>>>> Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! >>>>> >>>>>>> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email >>>>>>> discussions to this mailing list. >>>>> >>>>>>> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments >>>>>>> received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to >>>>>>> have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word >>>>>>>document. >>>>>>> This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com>, which I have now >>>>>>>added >>>>>>> as ROW 85 on >>>>>>> page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document >>>>>>> circulated previously. >>>>>>> I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. >>>>> >>>>>>> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more >>>>>>> general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this >>>>>>>Sub >>>>>>> Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work >>>>>>> such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through >>>>>>> Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on >>>>>>>Question 2 >>>>>>> (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the >>>>>>>last >>>>>>> person do the remaining general comments? >>>>> >>>>>>> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same >>>>>>> format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template >>>>>>>provided >>>>>>> or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per >>>>>>> this week¹s report. >>>>>>> Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together >>>>>>> (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations >>>>>>> to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. >>>>> >>>>>>> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for >>>>>>>each >>>>>>> ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the >>>>>>>full >>>>>>> WG with this coming Tuesday? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Wong >>>>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >>>>>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: >>>>>>> >>>>>>><gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>> >>>>>>><stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utor >>>>>>>ont >>>>>>> o >>>>>>> .ca>> >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 >>>>>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>>>>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >>>>> >>>>>>>> testing >>>>>>>> SP >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>> >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Terri Stumme >>>>> Intelligence Analyst >>>>> <image001.jpg> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2

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Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Proposed call
by Mary Wong Aug. 6, 2015

Aug. 6, 2015

Hello all, Based on 4 responses to the Doodle poll, it looks like this Friday 7 August at either 1400 UTC or 1500 UTC will work for 3 out of the 4 responders. I note, however, that none of the proposed times work for BOTH Lindsay and Terri, who have led the work so far on Questions 1 and 2. Can folks confirm whether they still want to go ahead with a meeting this Friday (largely administrative, as noted further below) or should we try to sort out the administrative issues/tasks by email first? FYI the Sub Team wiki page has now been updated with all the latest documents - the revised Public Comment Review Tool for Section 1.3.3, and Lindsay’s and Terri’s latest Summary Documents for Questions 1 & 2: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:41 Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool >Hi Kiran and everyone, > >As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, >i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move >forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining >tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions >and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will >clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. > >Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July >overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and >picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to >this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent >response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the >additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team >- basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two >additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with >incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer). > >It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete >the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary >recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of >course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your >material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so >everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. > >Thanks and cheers > >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com> >Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 >To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> >Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com>, >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >>Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen >>to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, >>can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this >>train seems to be getting away from us. >> >>I >> >>Kiran Malancharuvil >>Policy Counselor >>MarkMonitor >>415-419-9138 (m) >> >>Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >> >>On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong >><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >> >>Hello Lindsay and all, >> >>I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: >>http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. >> >>As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll >>need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of >>times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their >>earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular >>option!) >> >>Thanks and cheers >>Mary >> >>Mary Wong >>Senior Policy Director >>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >> >>From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos >>t >>s.com>> >>Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 >>To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >>Hi all >> >>While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal >>with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even >>sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we >>move forward. >> >>Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll? >> >>Thanks >> >>Lindsay >> >>Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>Legal Counsel >>Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and >>1 >>.co.uk> >>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >> >>[fh-1and1] >> >> >>? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts >>Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name >>of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in >>England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >> >>This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not >>disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided >>by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently >>confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>Fasthosts. >> >> >> >>From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>[mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong >>Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 >>Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >>Hi Kiran and everyone, >> >>You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for >>Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 >>(for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into >>“buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for >>each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by >>staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on >>preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number >>of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their >>report to the WG. >> >>Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best >>for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team >>and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the >>staff-provided template will be useful!) >> >>Cheers >>Mary >> >>Mary Wong >>Senior Policy Director >>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >>From: Kiran Malancharuvil >><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit >>o >>r.com>> >>Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 >>To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay >>Hamilton-Reid >><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos >>t >>s.com>>, Terri Stumme >><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >>Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for >>lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. >> >>K >> >>From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM >>To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme >>Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; >>gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >>Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in >>addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. >>Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if >>appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are >>ready; thanks so much! >> >>Cheers >>Mary >> >>Mary Wong >>Senior Policy Director >>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >>From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos >>t >>s.com>> >>Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 >>To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri >>Stumme >><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit >>o >>r.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >>Hi Mary >> >>I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope >>to have the document up and running too. >> >>Many thanks >> >>Lindsay >> >>Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>Legal Counsel >>Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and >>1 >>.co.uk> >>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >> >>[fh-1and1] >> >> >>? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts >>Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name >>of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in >>England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >> >>This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not >>disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided >>by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently >>confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>Fasthosts. >> >> >> >>From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >>Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 >>To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos >>t >>s.com>>; Terri Stumme >><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit >>o >>r.com>>; gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >>Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on >>Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If >>it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a >>brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? >> >>Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team >>of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their >>findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do >>the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, >>please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in >>this process. >> >>Thanks and cheers >>Mary >> >>Mary Wong >>Senior Policy Director >>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >>Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >>Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >> >>From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos >>t >>s.com>> >>Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 >>To: Terri Stumme >><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >>Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit >>o >>r.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >>"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >>Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >>Hi Terri >> >>Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on >>question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant >>questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. >> >>Many thanks >> >>Lindsay >> >>Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >>Legal Counsel >>Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >>Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and >>1 >>.co.uk> >>www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >>www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> >> >>[fh-1and1] >> >> >>? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts >>Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >>England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name >>of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in >>England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >>Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. >> >>This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >>legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not >>disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >>immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >>700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided >>by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently >>confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >>Fasthosts. >> >> >> >>From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] >>Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 >>To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos >>t >>s.com>> >>Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil >><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonit >>o >>r.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; >>gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >>I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer >>than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to >>response #15. >> >>Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? >> >>On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthos >>t >>s.com>> wrote: >> >>Hi Kiran >> >> >> >>I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no >>idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I >>should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to >>take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so >>far? >> >> >> >>Many thanks >> >> >> >>Lindsay >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >>[mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.or >>g >>>] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil >>Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 >>To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >>Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >> >> >> >>Dear All, >> >> >> >>It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the >>implications on permissible use. >> >> >> >>Has anyone started the work on this? >> >> >> >>Kiran >> >> >> >>Kiran Malancharuvil >> >>Policy Counselor >> >>MarkMonitor >> >>415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) >> >> >> >>Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. >> >> >> >>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong >>><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the >> >>> subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) >> >>> suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please >> >>> accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need >>>this reminder! >> >>> >> >>> If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are >> >>> scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would >> >>> greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we >> >>> will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks again, and have a great weekend, >> >>> >> >>> Mary >> >>> >> >>> Mary Wong >> >>> Senior Policy Director >> >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >> >>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >> >>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >> >>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 >> >>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >> >>> >> >>>> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub >> >>>> Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! >> >>>> >> >>>> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email >> >>>> discussions to this mailing list. >> >>>> >> >>>> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments >> >>>> received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to >> >>>> have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document. >> >>>> This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com>, which I have now added >>>>as ROW 85 on >> >>>> page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document >>>>circulated previously. >> >>>> I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. >> >>>> >> >>>> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more >> >>>> general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub >> >>>> Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work >> >>>> such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through >> >>>> Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 >> >>>> (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last >> >>>> person do the remaining general comments? >> >>>> >> >>>> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same >> >>>> format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided >> >>>> or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per >>>>this week¹s report. >> >>>> Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together >> >>>> (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations >> >>>> to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. >> >>>> >> >>>> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each >> >>>> ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full >> >>>> WG with this coming Tuesday? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks and cheers >> >>>> Mary >> >>>> >> >>>> Mary Wong >> >>>> Senior Policy Director >> >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >> >>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> >> >>>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>> From: >>>><gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org>> >>>>on behalf of Stephanie Perrin >> >>>> >>>><stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoront >>>>o >>>>.ca>> >> >>>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 >> >>>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>>><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >> >>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >> >>>> >> >>>>> testing >> >>>>> SP >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> >>>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> >>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> >>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >> >>Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >> >>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >> >> >> >>-- >>Terri Stumme >>Intelligence Analyst >><image001.jpg> >>_______________________________________________ >>Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >

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Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination; further update to Review Tool
by Mary Wong Aug. 4, 2015

Aug. 4, 2015

Hi Kiran and everyone, As I understand it, the purpose of the call will be mostly administrative, i.e. general discussion as to whether there’s agreement on how to move forward, and how; whether to appoint a convenor or two; agree on remaining tasks and work assignments (including agreement on handling the petitions and mass comments). Hopefully having such a call relatively soon will clarify timelines and tasks for everyone. Following from the WG call a while ago, I’ve gone back through the 20 July overall Public Comment Review Tool for Recommendations #1 through #9, and picked out those comments made by submitters that are directly relevant to this Sub Team (even if the submitters made those comments in apparent response to other questions/recommendations). I’ve highlighted the additions in yellow in the attached updated Review Tool for this Sub Team - basically, there are four additional rows for Question 1 and two additional rows for Question 2 (sorry, Lindsay and Terri - I can help with incorporating them into your existing summary documents if you prefer). It may be that there will be more such moves and additions as I complete the overall Review Tool for the remainder of the WG’s preliminary recommendations. I’ll try to do that as quickly as I can this week, and of course will alert your group if there are to be further additions to your material. I’ll upload each update to the Sub Team wiki as well, so everyone can see what the latest documents from everyone else is. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org -----Original Message----- From: Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 11:30 To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Cc: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid <Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com>, "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination >Thanks all. Sorry for not being on the call this morning. I will listen >to the recording asap. With so many people traveling this week or out, >can we push our work to next week? I know we're on a time crunch but this >train seems to be getting away from us. > >I > >Kiran Malancharuvil >Policy Counselor >MarkMonitor >415-419-9138 (m) > >Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > >On Aug 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Mary Wong ><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > >Hello Lindsay and all, > >I’ve created a Doodle poll for a possible Sub Team call this week: >http://doodle.com/728gsr7dg52x3fhb. > >As we’ll be recording it (as we have done for other Sub Team calls), I’ll >need to check that we will also have Secretariat support once a couple of >times seem likely, so hopefully everyone can fill in the poll at their >earliest convenience (especially if tomorrow turns out to be a popular >option!) > >Thanks and cheers >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > > >From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com>> >Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 10:49 >To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >Hi all > >While we are on topic, we should arrange a call to discuss how to deal >with these extra comments and have a general catch up. I am not even >sure who is convening this group but it would be good to decide how we >move forward. > >Can we all give times when we would be available? Perhaps set up a poll? > >Thanks > >Lindsay > >Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >Legal Counsel >Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1 >.co.uk> >www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > >[fh-1and1] > > >? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts >Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name >of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > >This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not >disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided >by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently >confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >Fasthosts. > > > >From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >[mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong >Sent: 03 August 2015 21:32 >Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >Hi Kiran and everyone, > >You can take a look at the current summary documents from Sub Team 1 (for >Section 1.3.2): https://community.icann.org/x/zoZCAw. FWIW Sub Team 3 >(for Annex E) is adopting a similar approach of dividing its work into >“buckets” based on the questions, and having different people sign up for >each “bucket”. For now, Sub Team 3 is using the template provided by >staff, though re-organizing into their “buckets”. They also plan on >preparing some statistics (e.g. X number of people answered No, Y number >of people answered No with this specific condition, etc.) for their >report to the WG. > >Please feel free to adopt whichever approach and documentation works best >for this group. Staff will compile the final output from each Sub Team >and organize them into a consistent format (which is why we hope the >staff-provided template will be useful!) > >Cheers >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > >From: Kiran Malancharuvil ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com>> >Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 14:06 >To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Lindsay >Hamilton-Reid ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com>>, Terri Stumme ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >Cc: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >Is there a template for preparing written summaries? I’m sorry for >lagging on this, but I am traveling this week. > >K > >From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 8:08 AM >To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid; Terri Stumme >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil; >gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >Thank you both; it is a lot of work so we really appreciate that in >addition to an oral update you may well have written summaries too. >Please send them to me for uploading to the WG/Sub Team wiki and (if >appropriate) to the WG’s AC room for the meeting tomorrow when you are >ready; thanks so much! > >Cheers >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > >From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com>> >Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:35 >To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, Terri >Stumme <terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com>>, "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >Hi Mary > >I should be ready to discuss the comments verbally, although I also hope >to have the document up and running too. > >Many thanks > >Lindsay > >Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >Legal Counsel >Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1 >.co.uk> >www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > >[fh-1and1] > > >? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts >Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name >of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > >This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not >disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided >by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently >confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >Fasthosts. > > > >From: Mary Wong [mailto:mary.wong@icann.org] >Sent: 03 August 2015 14:54 >To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com>>; Terri Stumme ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com>>; gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >Hello everyone thanks, Terri and Lindsay, for volunteering to take on >Question 1 (which does have the most and rather voluminous comments). If >it’s not asking too much, do you think you’ll be in a position to give a >brief update (even orally) to the WG on the call tomorrow? > >Assuming Terri and Lindsay are fine with reviewing Question 1 as a team >of two, perhaps the next step would be for this Sub Team to discuss their >findings/summaries (following the WG call tomorrow), and for others to do >the same type of review/summary for the remaining questions? Again, >please let me know if you will be needing any assistance from staff in >this process. > >Thanks and cheers >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > > >From: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com>> >Date: Monday, August 3, 2015 at 09:45 >To: Terri Stumme ><terri.stumme(a)legitscript.com<mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com>> >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com>>, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, >"gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" ><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> >Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >Hi Terri > >Well I have not started yet so I will take comments 40 to 87 then on >question 1. As the comments have already been sorted into the relevant >questions, I will summarise the responses in a word document then. > >Many thanks > >Lindsay > >Lindsay Hamilton-Reid >Legal Counsel >Direct: +44 (0)1452 509145 | Mobile: 07720 091147 | >Email:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1.co.uk<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@1and1 >.co.uk> >www.fasthosts.co.uk<http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/> >www.1and1.co.uk<http://www.1and1.co.uk/> > >[fh-1and1] > > >? 2015 All rights reserved. Fasthosts is the trading name of Fasthosts >Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03656438. Registered in >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 720821857. 1&1 is the trading name >of 1&1 Internet Limited. Company registration no. 03953678. Registered in >England and Wales. Registered office: Discovery House, 154 Southgate >Street, Gloucester, GL1 2EX. VAT no. 752539027. > >This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be >legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not >disclose, copy or use any part of it - please delete all copies >immediately and notify 1&1 on 0844 335 1211 or Fasthosts on 0333 0142 >700. Any statements, opinions or information in this message are provided >by the author, not on behalf of 1&1 and/or Fasthosts, unless subsequently >confirmed by an individual who is authorised to represent 1&1 and/or >Fasthosts. > > > >From: Terri Stumme [mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com] >Sent: 03 August 2015 14:27 >To: Lindsay Hamilton-Reid ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com>> >Cc: Kiran Malancharuvil ><Kiran.Malancharuvil(a)markmonitor.com<mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonito >r.com>>; Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>; >gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > >I have actually started going through question 1, and it is taking longer >than I anticipated. I'm sorting the responses and have made it to >response #15. > >Should I continue on this path so as to complete by tomorrow's call? > >On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Lindsay Hamilton-Reid ><Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid(a)fasthosts.com<mailto:Lindsay.Hamilton-Reid@fasthost >s.com>> wrote: > >Hi Kiran > > > >I am happy to look at question 1 today and summarise but as I have no >idea what anyone else is doing, I could take on a different question. I >should have an initial summary by the call tomorrow but this is going to >take a lot more work. What about everyone else? What has been done so >far? > > > >Many thanks > > > >Lindsay > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org> >[mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org >>] On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil >Sent: 31 July 2015 22:38 >To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> >Cc: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination > > > >Dear All, > > > >It's my opinion that we need more time to explore the comments and the >implications on permissible use. > > > >Has anyone started the work on this? > > > >Kiran > > > >Kiran Malancharuvil > >Policy Counselor > >MarkMonitor > >415-419-9138<tel:415-419-9138> (m) > > > >Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. > > > >> On Jul 31, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Mary Wong >><mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> wrote: > >> > >> Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the > >> subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) > >> suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please > >> accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need >>this reminder! > >> > >> If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are > >> scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would > >> greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we > >> will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. > >> > >> Thanks again, and have a great weekend, > >> > >> Mary > >> > >> Mary Wong > >> Senior Policy Director > >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > >> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>> > >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 > >> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > >> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > >> > >>> Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub > >>> Team 2 (dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! > >>> > >>> It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email > >>> discussions to this mailing list. > >>> > >>> Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments > >>> received again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to > >>> have been edited over in my formatting of the original Word document. > >>> This is a comment from Web.com<http://Web.com>, which I have now added >>>as ROW 85 on > >>> page 30. No other changes have been made to the original document >>>circulated previously. > >>> I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. > >>> > >>> Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more > >>> general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub > >>> Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work > >>> such that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through > >>> Question 1 (perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 > >>> (dividing the comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last > >>> person do the remaining general comments? > >>> > >>> This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same > >>> format to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided > >>> or something like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per >>>this week¹s report. > >>> Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together > >>> (having read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations > >>> to be made by the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. > >>> > >>> If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each > >>> ³sub part² so that there will be something to report back to the full > >>> WG with this coming Tuesday? > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks and cheers > >>> Mary > >>> > >>> Mary Wong > >>> Senior Policy Director > >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) > >>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889<tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889> > >>> Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: >>><gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2-bounces@icann.org>> >>>on behalf of Stephanie Perrin > >>> >>><stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto >>>.ca>> > >>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 > >>> To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>" >>><gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org>> > >>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > >>> > >>>> testing > >>>> SP > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >>>> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >> Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ > >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list > >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> > >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 > > > >-- >Terri Stumme >Intelligence Analyst ><image001.jpg> >_______________________________________________ >Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2

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Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] Approach and coordination
by Mary Wong Aug. 4, 2015

Aug. 4, 2015

Hello everyone, at the risk of being pesky I thought I’d change the subject title in case you didn’t see my earlier email (below) suggesting a possible approach to the work of this Sub Team. Please accept my apologies if you’ve already begun your work and so don’t need this reminder! If you should need to do a Sub Team call, especially if you are scheduling one before the next WG meeting on Tuesday, staff would greatly appreciate your letting us know as soon as possible since we will need to set up the recording and (if you need one) the AC room. Thanks again, and have a great weekend, Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org -----Original Message----- From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:37 To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing >Loud and clear, Stephanie - thanks, and welcome, everyone, to Sub Team 2 >(dealing with Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report)! > >It will be much appreciated if you can move all future email discussions >to this mailing list. > >Please note also that I have noticed - in going over the comments received >again - that one comment relevant to your topic seems to have been edited >over in my formatting of the original Word document. This is a comment >from Web.com, which I have now added as ROW 85 on page 30. No other >changes have been made to the original document circulated previously. >I¹ll update the wiki page accordingly. > >Given the extensive nature of the comments (especially for the more >general Question 1) and the fact that there are 7 members of this Sub >Team, would it be a good idea for this Sub Team to divide the work such >that 3 people (for instance) can do the first sweep through Question 1 >(perhaps taking 25-30 comments each), 2 take on Question 2 (dividing the >comments in half), 1 person do Question 3 and the last person do the >remaining general comments? > >This could be the first phase, and each person could use the same format >to ensure consistency - whether that be the template provided or something >like what Sub Team 1 (for Section 1.3.2) is doing, per this week¹s report. >Following this initial phase, the Sub Team can then come together (having >read one another¹s submissions) to agree on recommendations to be made by >the Sub Team as a whole to the WG. > >If this approach makes sense, perhaps we can take volunteers for each ³sub >part² so that there will be something to report back to the full WG with >this coming Tuesday? > > >Thanks and cheers >Mary > >Mary Wong >Senior Policy Director >Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) >Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 >Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: <gnso-ppsai2-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin ><stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca> >Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 19:14 >To: "gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org" <gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org> >Subject: [Gnso-ppsai2] testing > >>testing >>SP >>_______________________________________________ >>Gnso-ppsai2 mailing list >>Gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org >>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai2 >

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testing
by Stephanie Perrin July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

testing SP

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Privacy & Proxy Accreditation Services Issues PDP Sub Group 2.
by Glen de Saint Géry July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

Dear All, Thank you very much for your interest in this group. You have been added to the Privacy & Proxy Accreditation Services Issues PDP Sub Group 2. The mailing list address is: gnso-ppsai2(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai2@icann.org> With public archives at: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai2/ Please use only the address at which you received this email to send emails to this list. Please be aware that this email list is publicly archived. Please do not send sensitive information to this mailing list. Please contact gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> if you need any change to your email address. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org

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Test - Sub Team 1.3.3
by Mary Wong July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

Hello all, just testing that this mailing list is working and that everyone who should be on it is on it! Please move all future email discussions to this list; thanks much. As a reminder, this is the current Sub Team wiki page, with the most current list of members that I have: https://community.icann.org/x/0YZCAw Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org

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