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Fwd: Subteam 4 Report (Draft)
by Kathy Kleiman Oct. 4, 2015

Oct. 4, 2015

Hi All, Attached please find the draft that I have just sent on to the WG co-chairs. I have spent a good amount of time reviewing Vicky's edits and creating a clean copy of the report for the WG. For the most part, I've accepted Vicky's edits, but where our differing edits indicated a division of the subteam on what to advise the full WG, I noted it and included both views. Here are the two versions of our report for your review: 1) The redline of our recommendations with edits by Paul, Kathy and Vicky -- for subteam review -- titled Subteam 4 Report draft vfs 10-2-15 kk 10-4 (00837770xB3D1E).doc 2) The "final" version sent to the WG reflects a clean text (edits adopted, format made consistent, spell-checked, etc) -- titled Subteam 4 Report - 10-4-2015 for first WG Review (00837771xB3D1E).doc Below is my message to the WG co-chairs with Subteam 4 Report - 10-4-2015 for first WG Review (00837771xB3D1E).doc attached. Best, Kathy -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Subteam 4 Report (Draft) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 15:28:47 -0400 From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com> To: Graeme Bunton <gbunton(a)tucows.com>, Metalitz, Steven <met(a)msk.com>, Paul D. McGrady <PMcGrady(a)winston.com>, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Graeme and Steve, Attached please find Subteam 4's draft report. It involves our summary of over 100 comments which provided input and concerns different from those reviewed by the other subteams. This report contains the areas we agreed on recommendations, and some which we did not. This "cleaned up draft" of our Report has been reviewed by Paul McGrady, co-convenor, so on his behalf, I reserve his right to do so. Best, Kathy

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Fwd: Fwd: Subteam 4 draft report - final call for comments
by Mary Wong Oct. 4, 2015

Oct. 4, 2015

I'm resending Vicky's message and document, as requested. I realize time is short but as noted previously the WG chairs had requested that the sub team should send their report to the WG by this weekend so that WG members have a chance to review before Tuesday, especially since there was no opportunity to discuss the sub team's work last week. Thanks abs cheers Mary Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Victoria Sheckler <vsheckler(a)riaa.com<mailto:vsheckler@riaa.com>> Date: October 2, 2015 at 20:28:12 EDT To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai4] Fwd: Subteam 4 draft report - final call for comments Please see attached. I tried to shorten the draft, make it more neutral, and raised concerns with some of the recommendations. I still think it is quite duplicative, with the same comment/concerns raised in more than 1 category, but I didn’t remove those since I assume its based on how we categorized the comments in the template. From: gnso-ppsai4-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai4-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 7:59 PM To: gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai4] Fwd: Subteam 4 draft report - final call for comments Thanks, Kathy and everyone. I realize it’s late for all now, but the WG co-chairs have asked me to request that, if at all possible, can the Sub Team send around its report by tomorrow? My sense is that they are asking on the understanding that the summary report is likely to run to quite a few pages long, and hasn’t yet been seen by the WG despite the intention to have presented it earlier this week. If it will help, the Sub Team can agree to send a version of the document that is subject to the caveat that it hasn’t yet been fully reviewed by all, and may not represent the consensus views of the whole Sub Team (as has been done for other Sub Teams). Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: <gnso-ppsai4-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> Date: Friday, October 2, 2015 at 14:19 To: "gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>>, "Paul D. McGrady" <PMcGrady(a)winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai4] Fwd: Subteam 4 draft report - final call for comments Hi Mary, As you can see, we are still gathering edits and comments. All, Could you get the edits in to me and Paul by COB today? Best, Kathy : Thanks, Kathy, Paul and everyone - just let me know if/how staff can assist in getting the report (even if it is to be “subject to further Sub Team 4 review”, for instance) to the WG. If it is at all possible, it will be great if we can send it to the WG by today, so that they will have the chance to review what’s a pretty long document more fully before Tuesday! Stephanie, we hope you feel better soon! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai4-bounces(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady(a)winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 15:39 To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Cc: "gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai4] Fwd: Subteam 4 draft report - final call for comments I'm in the air finally heading back to Chicago. I will look this over tomorrow and get you any comments I may have in your comments in my comments! 😀 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.c<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> a><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote: I am afraid I am very ill, and not focusing on work. Trying to get rid of a very very bad cold prior to Dublin.... SP On 2015-10-01 15:08, Kathy Kleiman wrote: Hi All, Just a re-check to see if anyone has any changes before our Subteam 4 report goes out to the full WG for first (and perhaps last) presentation of analysis and action items? Best, Kathy -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Subteam 4 draft report Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:04:16 -0400 From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com> To: gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady(a)winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com> Hi All, Tx to Paul for his work! Yesterday, Paul shared with me the edited draft report. He edited the findings and drafted the text for our "recommendation boxes." I really appreciate all he has done - this is hard work! I have now reviewed and added my thoughts and edits to the proposed recommendations. Both Paul and I used "track changes" so all is there to see and review. Please let us know what you think, and in particular, and in in light of the desire to close this process soon: What is it there in these remaining comments that impels us to consider an issue further and ask the WG to review and work on? Quick question: after your review, do you see pressing issues we need to discuss? If so, can we do it online or do we need a call later this week? Please let us know your thoughts! Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai4 mailing list Gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai4 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai4 mailing list Gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai4 The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. 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Re: [Gnso-ppsai4] Fwd: Subteam 4 draft report - final call for comments
by Mary Wong Oct. 4, 2015

Oct. 4, 2015

Thanks much, Vicky! As noted previously, the WG chairs would like us to send something out earlier rather than later, even if it's not a final agreed version, as that would be helpful for WG reviewing purposes. As such, unless there are any more edits, I'll most likely send this out first thing Monday morning - with the usual caveats, of course. As always, sub team members should be able to speak to any points they wish to raise during the WG call as well. Cheers Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2015, at 20:34, Victoria Sheckler <vsheckler(a)riaa.com<mailto:vsheckler@riaa.com>> wrote: Please see attached. I tried to shorten the draft, make it more neutral, and raised concerns with some of the recommendations. I still think it is quite duplicative, with the same comment/concerns raised in more than 1 category, but I didn’t remove those since I assume its based on how we categorized the comments in the template. From: gnso-ppsai4-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai4-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 7:59 PM To: gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai4] Fwd: Subteam 4 draft report - final call for comments Thanks, Kathy and everyone. I realize it’s late for all now, but the WG co-chairs have asked me to request that, if at all possible, can the Sub Team send around its report by tomorrow? My sense is that they are asking on the understanding that the summary report is likely to run to quite a few pages long, and hasn’t yet been seen by the WG despite the intention to have presented it earlier this week. If it will help, the Sub Team can agree to send a version of the document that is subject to the caveat that it hasn’t yet been fully reviewed by all, and may not represent the consensus views of the whole Sub Team (as has been done for other Sub Teams). Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> From: <gnso-ppsai4-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com<mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com>> Date: Friday, October 2, 2015 at 14:19 To: "gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>>, "Paul D. McGrady" <PMcGrady(a)winston.com<mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai4] Fwd: Subteam 4 draft report - final call for comments Hi Mary, As you can see, we are still gathering edits and comments. All, Could you get the edits in to me and Paul by COB today? Best, Kathy : Thanks, Kathy, Paul and everyone - just let me know if/how staff can assist in getting the report (even if it is to be “subject to further Sub Team 4 review”, for instance) to the WG. If it is at all possible, it will be great if we can send it to the WG by today, so that they will have the chance to review what’s a pretty long document more fully before Tuesday! Stephanie, we hope you feel better soon! Cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: +1 603 574 4889 Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org<mailto:mary.wong@icann.org> -----Original Message----- From: <gnso-ppsai4-bounces(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <PMcGrady(a)winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 15:39 To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> Cc: "gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org"<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org> <gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai4] Fwd: Subteam 4 draft report - final call for comments I'm in the air finally heading back to Chicago. I will look this over tomorrow and get you any comments I may have in your comments in my comments! 😀 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.c<mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> a><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote: I am afraid I am very ill, and not focusing on work. Trying to get rid of a very very bad cold prior to Dublin.... SP On 2015-10-01 15:08, Kathy Kleiman wrote: Hi All, Just a re-check to see if anyone has any changes before our Subteam 4 report goes out to the full WG for first (and perhaps last) presentation of analysis and action items? Best, Kathy -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Subteam 4 draft report Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:04:16 -0400 From: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com> To: gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>, McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady(a)winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com><mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com> Hi All, Tx to Paul for his work! Yesterday, Paul shared with me the edited draft report. He edited the findings and drafted the text for our "recommendation boxes." I really appreciate all he has done - this is hard work! I have now reviewed and added my thoughts and edits to the proposed recommendations. Both Paul and I used "track changes" so all is there to see and review. Please let us know what you think, and in particular, and in in light of the desire to close this process soon: What is it there in these remaining comments that impels us to consider an issue further and ask the WG to review and work on? Quick question: after your review, do you see pressing issues we need to discuss? If so, can we do it online or do we need a call later this week? Please let us know your thoughts! Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai4 mailing list Gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai4 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai4 mailing list Gnso-ppsai4(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org><mailto:Gnso-ppsai4@icann.org>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai4 The contents of this message may be privileged and confidential. 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Subteam 4 draft report
by Kathy Kleiman Oct. 2, 2015

Oct. 2, 2015

Hi All, Tx to Paul for his work! Yesterday, Paul shared with me the edited draft report. He edited the findings and drafted the text for our "recommendation boxes." I really appreciate all he has done - this is hard work! I have now reviewed and added my thoughts and edits to the proposed recommendations. Both Paul and I used "track changes" so all is there to see and review. Please let us know what you think, and in particular, and in in light of the desire to close this process soon: What is it there in these remaining comments that impels us to consider an issue further and ask the WG to review and work on? Quick question: after your review, do you see pressing issues we need to discuss? If so, can we do it online or do we need a call later this week? Please let us know your thoughts! Best, Kathy

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