Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW
Hi, Sharing an Article written by my Collegue @GNSO ++Andrew A good read of the interpretation of many. Well written and chosen words, rather simple English :) Thanks Andrew. Kudos ! -Vaibhav Aggarwal Tweet @TheVaibhavAg Web : VaibhavAggarwal.com YouTube:/+VaibhavAggarwalIndia O : Bladebrains.com https://fcw.com/articles/2016/08/23/comment-iana-sullivan.aspx?m=1 Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
I fail to see the relevance for our work. Best, Volker Am 30.08.2016 um 09:14 schrieb Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal:
Hi,
Sharing an Article written by my Collegue @GNSO ++Andrew
A good read of the interpretation of many. Well written and chosen words, rather simple English :)
Thanks Andrew. Kudos !
-Vaibhav Aggarwal Tweet @TheVaibhavAg Web : VaibhavAggarwal.com YouTube:/+VaibhavAggarwalIndia O : Bladebrains.com
https://fcw.com/articles/2016/08/23/comment-iana-sullivan.aspx?m=1
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* Don¹t get too emotional Volker. Its good that we agree to disagree. Maintains the harmony of the WG. * Chuck, Next time you are sharing pictures of your holiday - I will fail to see the relevance to our work !!!!! And Next time I write an Article, I take a learning from this that it has to be relevant always !!! (Ehm. Ehm. I am a noted author with the The Sunday Gaurdian & others) BTW, Volker, Technical : This article is, was and will be relevant as due to the Non renewal of the the Contract between the UD gov. and ICANN, there may be legal implications on policy of function and rules may be changed / added etc. Well will see when it happens, but right now, I can speak for my self, some Information is always fruitful. I kept my view, and you kept yours. There is a world beyond our respective worlds too and there are others in it :-) BTW, my view, personally, I am proud to be working with a group of Intellectuals :-) Lächle weiter Yours Truly, -VA On 8/30/16, 3:10 PM, "Volker Greimann" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
I fail to see the relevance for our work.
Best,
Volker
Am 30.08.2016 um 09:14 schrieb Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal:
Hi,
Sharing an Article written by my Collegue @GNSO ++Andrew
A good read of the interpretation of many. Well written and chosen words, rather simple English :)
Thanks Andrew. Kudos !
-Vaibhav Aggarwal Tweet @TheVaibhavAg Web : VaibhavAggarwal.com YouTube:/+VaibhavAggarwalIndia O : Bladebrains.com
https://fcw.com/articles/2016/08/23/comment-iana-sullivan.aspx?m=1
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1) It's not relevant to our work, but... 2) It's written by Andrew, who is very relevant to our work, so it's nice to recognize it. Kudos to Andrew! 3) Let's not get defensive at each other. Thanks. /marksv ________________________________ From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal <va@bladebrains.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:02:22 AM To: Volker Greimann; Gomes, Chuck Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW * Don’t get too emotional Volker. Its good that we agree to disagree. Maintains the harmony of the WG. * Chuck, Next time you are sharing pictures of your holiday - I will fail to see the relevance to our work !!!!! And Next time I write an Article, I take a learning from this that it has to be relevant – always !!! (Ehm. Ehm. I am a noted author with the The Sunday Gaurdian & others) BTW, Volker, Technical : This article is, was and will be relevant as due to the Non renewal of the the Contract between the UD gov. and ICANN, there may be legal implications on policy of function and rules may be changed / added etc. Well will see when it happens, but right now, I can speak for my self, some Information is always fruitful. I kept my view, and you kept yours. There is a world beyond our respective worlds too and there are others in it :-) BTW, my view, personally, I am proud to be working with a group of Intellectuals :-) Lächle weiter Yours Truly, -VA On 8/30/16, 3:10 PM, "Volker Greimann" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote: I fail to see the relevance for our work. Best, Volker Am 30.08.2016 um 09:14 schrieb Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal: Hi, Sharing an Article written by my Collegue @GNSO ++Andrew A good read of the interpretation of many. Well written and chosen words, rather simple English :) Thanks Andrew. Kudos ! -Vaibhav Aggarwal Tweet @TheVaibhavAg Web : VaibhavAggarwal.com YouTube:/+VaibhavAggarwalIndia O : Bladebrains.com https://fcw.com/articles/2016/08/23/comment-iana-sullivan.aspx?m=1 Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted. _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg -- Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Volker A. Greimann - Rechtsabteilung - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook: www.facebook.com/KeySystems www.twitter.com/key_systems Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen. -------------------------------------------- Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Best regards, Volker A. Greimann - legal department - Key-Systems GmbH Im Oberen Werk 1 66386 St. Ingbert Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901 Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851 Email: vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net> Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated: www.facebook.com/KeySystems www.twitter.com/key_systems CEO: Alexander Siffrin Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534 Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP www.keydrive.lu This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone. _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg
Mark as I said earlier, there are other people living in our world. Let's have a chat - how is it not relevant ? I want to know now. And since Völkers opened it up. He will talk about it !!! Völker & Mark it's a dual. U guys stay quite - u take ur comment back !! Me against two. Can h handle ? Ha ha ha I am kidding guys - relax - Andrew, look everyone is saying u write irrelevant stuff. Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
On Aug 30, 2016, at 9:22 PM, Mark Svancarek <marksv@microsoft.com> wrote:
1) It's not relevant to our work, but...
2) It's written by Andrew, who is very relevant to our work, so it's nice to recognize it. Kudos to Andrew!
3) Let's not get defensive at each other. Thanks.
/marksv From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal <va@bladebrains.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:02:22 AM To: Volker Greimann; Gomes, Chuck Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW
Don’t get too emotional Volker. Its good that we agree to disagree. Maintains the harmony of the WG. Chuck, Next time you are sharing pictures of your holiday - I will fail to see the relevance to our work !!!!! And Next time I write an Article, I take a learning from this that it has to be relevant – always !!! (Ehm. Ehm. I am a noted author with the The Sunday Gaurdian & others)
BTW, Volker, Technical : This article is, was and will be relevant as due to the Non renewal of the the Contract between the UD gov. and ICANN, there may be legal implications on policy of function and rules may be changed / added etc. Well will see when it happens, but right now, I can speak for my self, some Information is always fruitful.
I kept my view, and you kept yours. There is a world beyond our respective worlds too and there are others in it :-) BTW, my view, personally, I am proud to be working with a group of Intellectuals :-) Lächle weiter
Yours Truly, -VA
On 8/30/16, 3:10 PM, "Volker Greimann" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
I fail to see the relevance for our work.
Best,
Volker
Am 30.08.2016 um 09:14 schrieb Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal: Hi,
Sharing an Article written by my Collegue @GNSO ++Andrew
A good read of the interpretation of many. Well written and chosen words, rather simple English :)
Thanks Andrew. Kudos !
-Vaibhav Aggarwal Tweet @TheVaibhavAg Web : VaibhavAggarwal.com YouTube:/+VaibhavAggarwalIndia O : Bladebrains.com
https://fcw.com/articles/2016/08/23/comment-iana-sullivan.aspx?m=1
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It just feels like a topic that’s happening in parallel to our work, if I understand the charter. I suppose it might fall into the “laws vary all over the world” category if the non-USA version of ICANN suddenly changes its bylaws. From: Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal [mailto:va@bladebrains.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:58 AM To: Mark Svancarek <marksv@microsoft.com> Cc: Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net>; Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW Mark as I said earlier, there are other people living in our world. Let's have a chat - how is it not relevant ? I want to know now. And since Völkers opened it up. He will talk about it !!! Völker & Mark it's a dual. U guys stay quite - u take ur comment back !! Me against two. Can h handle ? Ha ha ha I am kidding guys - relax - Andrew, look everyone is saying u write irrelevant stuff. Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted. On Aug 30, 2016, at 9:22 PM, Mark Svancarek <marksv@microsoft.com<mailto:marksv@microsoft.com>> wrote: 1) It's not relevant to our work, but... 2) It's written by Andrew, who is very relevant to our work, so it's nice to recognize it. Kudos to Andrew! 3) Let's not get defensive at each other. Thanks. /marksv ________________________________ From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal <va@bladebrains.com<mailto:va@bladebrains.com>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:02:22 AM To: Volker Greimann; Gomes, Chuck Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW * Don’t get too emotional Volker. Its good that we agree to disagree. Maintains the harmony of the WG. * Chuck, Next time you are sharing pictures of your holiday - I will fail to see the relevance to our work !!!!! And Next time I write an Article, I take a learning from this that it has to be relevant – always !!! (Ehm. Ehm. I am a noted author with the The Sunday Gaurdian & others) BTW, Volker, Technical : This article is, was and will be relevant as due to the Non renewal of the the Contract between the UD gov. and ICANN, there may be legal implications on policy of function and rules may be changed / added etc. Well will see when it happens, but right now, I can speak for my self, some Information is always fruitful. I kept my view, and you kept yours. There is a world beyond our respective worlds too and there are others in it :-) BTW, my view, personally, I am proud to be working with a group of Intellectuals :-) Lächle weiter Yours Truly, -VA On 8/30/16, 3:10 PM, "Volker Greimann" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of vgreimann@key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote: I fail to see the relevance for our work. Best, Volker Am 30.08.2016 um 09:14 schrieb Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal: Hi, Sharing an Article written by my Collegue @GNSO ++Andrew A good read of the interpretation of many. Well written and chosen words, rather simple English :) Thanks Andrew. Kudos ! -Vaibhav Aggarwal Tweet @TheVaibhavAg Web : VaibhavAggarwal.com<http://vaibhavaggarwal.com> YouTube:/+VaibhavAggarwalIndia O : Bladebrains.com<http://bladebrains.com> https://fcw.com/articles/2016/08/23/comment-iana-sullivan.aspx?m=1 Sent from my mobile device. 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Dear Mark, Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!! And no it will not fall in the category of "laws vary around the world" as ICANN policies are horizontal in nature. Until specific, as they govern a common thread- gtlds ! I think there are other people in this world - and if u don't know, this list is subscribed to, deliverING to people who are not regularly seen in our calls or they are around the world. Part of the various communities etc. So lets respect all views. Is it difficult ? Regards Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
On Aug 30, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Mark Svancarek <marksv@microsoft.com> wrote:
It just feels like a topic that’s happening in parallel to our work, if I understand the charter.
I suppose it might fall into the “laws vary all over the world” category if the non-USA version of ICANN suddenly changes its bylaws.
From: Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal [mailto:va@bladebrains.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:58 AM To: Mark Svancarek <marksv@microsoft.com> Cc: Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net>; Gomes, Chuck <cgomes@verisign.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW
Mark as I said earlier, there are other people living in our world. Let's have a chat - how is it not relevant ? I want to know now. And since Völkers opened it up. He will talk about it !!!
Völker & Mark it's a dual. U guys stay quite - u take ur comment back !! Me against two. Can h handle ?
Ha ha ha I am kidding guys - relax - Andrew, look everyone is saying u write irrelevant stuff.
Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
On Aug 30, 2016, at 9:22 PM, Mark Svancarek <marksv@microsoft.com> wrote:
1) It's not relevant to our work, but...
2) It's written by Andrew, who is very relevant to our work, so it's nice to recognize it. Kudos to Andrew!
3) Let's not get defensive at each other. Thanks.
/marksv
From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal <va@bladebrains.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:02:22 AM To: Volker Greimann; Gomes, Chuck Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW
Don’t get too emotional Volker. Its good that we agree to disagree. Maintains the harmony of the WG. Chuck, Next time you are sharing pictures of your holiday - I will fail to see the relevance to our work !!!!! And Next time I write an Article, I take a learning from this that it has to be relevant – always !!! (Ehm. Ehm. I am a noted author with the The Sunday Gaurdian & others)
BTW, Volker, Technical : This article is, was and will be relevant as due to the Non renewal of the the Contract between the UD gov. and ICANN, there may be legal implications on policy of function and rules may be changed / added etc. Well will see when it happens, but right now, I can speak for my self, some Information is always fruitful.
I kept my view, and you kept yours. There is a world beyond our respective worlds too and there are others in it :-) BTW, my view, personally, I am proud to be working with a group of Intellectuals :-) Lächle weiter
Yours Truly, -VA
On 8/30/16, 3:10 PM, "Volker Greimann" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
I fail to see the relevance for our work.
Best,
Volker
Am 30.08.2016 um 09:14 schrieb Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal: Hi,
Sharing an Article written by my Collegue @GNSO ++Andrew
A good read of the interpretation of many. Well written and chosen words, rather simple English :)
Thanks Andrew. Kudos !
-Vaibhav Aggarwal Tweet @TheVaibhavAg Web : VaibhavAggarwal.com YouTube:/+VaibhavAggarwalIndia O : Bladebrains.com
https://fcw.com/articles/2016/08/23/comment-iana-sullivan.aspx?m=1
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Dear colleagues, On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal wrote:
Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!!
While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic. This PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
It's just relevant - not important to be discussed. So if anyone thinking it is to be discussed- super not kool :-) My share was just fyi - not discussion ! Some people chose to make it a point to argue - well i chose to asert ! Next time no Harry potter stories ;-) Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal wrote: Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!!
While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic. This PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand.
Best regards,
A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg
All The IANA transition is a very important and interesting topic for discussion. However this PDP’s mailing list is not the appropriate venue for those discussions. There are plenty of other mailing lists and groups where the discussion would be more pertinent. If you have a burning desire to discuss it with some of this group’s members please do so offlist. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blacknight.blog/ http://www.blacknight.press - get our latest news & media coverage http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Social: http://mneylon.social Random Stuff: http://michele.irish ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 30/08/2016, 19:52, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of va@bladebrains.com> wrote: It's just relevant - not important to be discussed. So if anyone thinking it is to be discussed- super not kool :-) My share was just fyi - not discussion ! Some people chose to make it a point to argue - well i chose to asert ! Next time no Harry potter stories ;-) Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted. > On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal wrote: >> Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!! > > While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I > published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that > are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps > their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic. This > PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what > happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to > keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand. > > Best regards, > > A > -- > Andrew Sullivan > ajs@anvilwalrusden.com > _______________________________________________ > gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list > gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg
Please don¹t write such Messages in this List - Its irrelevant !!! I, can¹t say for others, don¹t need you to tell us if other groups are existing or if IANA was important. Thanks -Over & Out from Me On 8/31/16, 7:20 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
All
The IANA transition is a very important and interesting topic for discussion.
However this PDP¹s mailing list is not the appropriate venue for those discussions. There are plenty of other mailing lists and groups where the discussion would be more pertinent.
If you have a burning desire to discuss it with some of this group¹s members please do so offlist.
Regards
Michele
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blacknight.blog/ http://www.blacknight.press - get our latest news & media coverage http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Social: http://mneylon.social Random Stuff: http://michele.irish ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
On 30/08/2016, 19:52, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of va@bladebrains.com> wrote:
It's just relevant - not important to be discussed. So if anyone thinking it is to be discussed- super not kool :-)
My share was just fyi - not discussion ! Some people chose to make it a point to argue - well i chose to asert !
Next time no Harry potter stories ;-)
Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal wrote: Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!!
While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic. This PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand.
Best regards,
A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com _______________________________________________ gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg
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VA, With all respect, I do not think that Michele's message was irrelevant at all. This is not the place to discuss the IANA transition. And it is important that we stay focused on our task. So I suggest that everyone heed his advice. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:01 AM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Andrew Sullivan Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW Please don¹t write such Messages in this List - Its irrelevant !!! I, can¹t say for others, don¹t need you to tell us if other groups are existing or if IANA was important. Thanks -Over & Out from Me On 8/31/16, 7:20 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
All
The IANA transition is a very important and interesting topic for discussion.
However this PDP¹s mailing list is not the appropriate venue for those discussions. There are plenty of other mailing lists and groups where the discussion would be more pertinent.
If you have a burning desire to discuss it with some of this group¹s members please do so offlist.
Regards
Michele
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blacknight.blog/ http://www.blacknight.press - get our latest news & media coverage http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Social: http://mneylon.social Random Stuff: http://michele.irish ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
On 30/08/2016, 19:52, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of va@bladebrains.com> wrote:
It's just relevant - not important to be discussed. So if anyone thinking it is to be discussed- super not kool :-)
My share was just fyi - not discussion ! Some people chose to make it a point to argue - well i chose to asert !
Next time no Harry potter stories ;-)
Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal wrote: Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!!
While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic. This PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand.
Best regards,
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This is Overboard. Pandora’s Box. With It was just a Share for FYI - People have too much time at hand to write mails ? To Asert is anything is relevant or not. In all fairness, if they want to read - so don’t read - Why create a fuss over it ? And I am writing this the 4th time Hard to read ? Use Case : I did not find your Pictures relevant so I stayed Quite. Well I did not want to see or know about the trees that does not mean others didn’t or want ?? How is it to me ???? So I am speaking for myself, You wasted my valuable time :-) And it clearly implies, people don’t like Andrew BUT neither this is of my concern nor anyone asked anyone’s opinion. On 8/31/16, 8:21 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
VA,
With all respect, I do not think that Michele's message was irrelevant at all. This is not the place to discuss the IANA transition. And it is important that we stay focused on our task. So I suggest that everyone heed his advice.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:01 AM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Andrew Sullivan Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW
Please don¹t write such Messages in this List - Its irrelevant !!! I, can¹t say for others, don¹t need you to tell us if other groups are existing or if IANA was important.
Thanks -Over & Out from Me
On 8/31/16, 7:20 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
All
The IANA transition is a very important and interesting topic for discussion.
However this PDP¹s mailing list is not the appropriate venue for those discussions. There are plenty of other mailing lists and groups where the discussion would be more pertinent.
If you have a burning desire to discuss it with some of this group¹s members please do so offlist.
Regards
Michele
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blacknight.blog/ http://www.blacknight.press - get our latest news & media coverage http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Social: http://mneylon.social Random Stuff: http://michele.irish ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
On 30/08/2016, 19:52, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of va@bladebrains.com> wrote:
It's just relevant - not important to be discussed. So if anyone thinking it is to be discussed- super not kool :-)
My share was just fyi - not discussion ! Some people chose to make it a point to argue - well i chose to asert !
Next time no Harry potter stories ;-)
Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan
<ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
> > Dear colleagues, >
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav
Aggarwal wrote:
>> Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this
group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!! > > While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I > published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that > are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps > their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic. This > PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what > happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to > keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand. > > Best regards, > > A > -- > Andrew Sullivan > ajs@anvilwalrusden.com > _______________________________________________ > gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list > gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg
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Vaibhav, You are misreading the situation quite spectacularly. I will correct only one aspect, since (you are right) I don't have time for more. For the record, I have a great deal of professional and respect and even affection for Andrew and find him to be among the most knowledgeable and relevant participants in our work. (That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says or writes....) I would expect that to be roundly seconded (but hope for the sake of traffic it won't be and will be understood as such; perhaps disagreements only, would be a good approach to minimize email traffic). I suggest that if you are not interested in other people's opinions on a particular matter, you shouldn't post to the list. You may also wish to consider how important listening and valuing other people's opinions is in a bottom-up, consensus-driven, deliberative process such as this, if you wish your contributions to be meaningful to and valued by others in the long run (as I presume you do). Please take this in the constructive spirit in which it is being offered. Best regards, Greg On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal < va@bladebrains.com> wrote:
This is Overboard. Pandora’s Box. With It was just a Share for FYI - People have too much time at hand to write mails ? To Asert is anything is relevant or not. *In all fairness, if they want to read - so don’t read - Why create a fuss* over it ? *And I am writing this the 4th time – Hard to read ?* *Use Case : I did not find your Pictures relevant so I stayed Quite. Well I did not want to see or know about the trees that does not mean others didn’t or want ?? How is it to me ????* So I am speaking for myself, You wasted my valuable time :-)
And it clearly implies, people don’t like Andrew BUT neither this is of my concern nor anyone asked anyone’s opinion.
On 8/31/16, 8:21 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
VA,
With all respect, I do not think that Michele's message was irrelevant at all. This is not the place to discuss the IANA transition. And it is important that we stay focused on our task. So I suggest that everyone heed his advice.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg- bounces@icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:01 AM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Andrew Sullivan Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW
Please don¹t write such Messages in this List - Its irrelevant !!! I, can¹t say for others, don¹t need you to tell us if other groups are existing or if IANA was important.
Thanks -Over & Out from Me
On 8/31/16, 7:20 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
All
The IANA transition is a very important and interesting topic for discussion.
However this PDP¹s mailing list is not the appropriate venue for those discussions. There are plenty of other mailing lists and groups where the discussion would be more pertinent.
If you have a burning desire to discuss it with some of this group¹s members please do so offlist.
Regards
Michele
-- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains http://www.blacknight.host/ http://blacknight.blog/ http://www.blacknight.press - get our latest news & media coverage http://www.technology.ie Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Social: http://mneylon.social Random Stuff: http://michele.irish ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
On 30/08/2016, 19:52, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of va@bladebrains.com> wrote:
It's just relevant - not important to be discussed. So if anyone thinking it is to be discussed- super not kool :-)
My share was just fyi - not discussion ! Some people chose to make it a point to argue - well i chose to asert !
Next time no Harry potter stories ;-)
Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal wrote: >> Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!! > > While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I > published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that > are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps > their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic. This > PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what > happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to > keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand. > > Best regards, > > A > -- > Andrew Sullivan > ajs@anvilwalrusden.com > _______________________________________________ > gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list > gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg
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1. I am not reading 2. Thanks for the Suggestion Greg Un wanted. 3. Now I think this is a List where Only so much is discussed for the time being. Lastly TO CLOSE THIS THREAD - Offense is Unintentional. love always From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 9:07 PM To: Vaibhav Aggarwal <va@bladebrains.com> Cc: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com>, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW Vaibhav, You are misreading the situation quite spectacularly. I will correct only one aspect, since (you are right) I don't have time for more. For the record, I have a great deal of professional and respect and even affection for Andrew and find him to be among the most knowledgeable and relevant participants in our work. (That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says or writes....) I would expect that to be roundly seconded (but hope for the sake of traffic it won't be and will be understood as such; perhaps disagreements only, would be a good approach to minimize email traffic). I suggest that if you are not interested in other people's opinions on a particular matter, you shouldn't post to the list. You may also wish to consider how important listening and valuing other people's opinions is in a bottom-up, consensus-driven, deliberative process such as this, if you wish your contributions to be meaningful to and valued by others in the long run (as I presume you do). Please take this in the constructive spirit in which it is being offered. Best regards, Greg On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal <va@bladebrains.com> wrote:
This is Overboard. Pandora’s Box. With It was just a Share for FYI - People have too much time at hand to write mails ? To Asert is anything is relevant or not. In all fairness, if they want to read - so don’t read - Why create a fuss over it ? And I am writing this the 4th time Hard to read ? Use Case : I did not find your Pictures relevant so I stayed Quite. Well I did not want to see or know about the trees that does not mean others didn’t or want ?? How is it to me ???? So I am speaking for myself, You wasted my valuable time :-)
And it clearly implies, people don’t like Andrew BUT neither this is of my concern nor anyone asked anyone’s opinion.
On 8/31/16, 8:21 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com> wrote:
VA,
With all respect, I do not think that Michele's message was irrelevant at all. This is not the place to discuss the IANA transition. And it is important that we stay focused on our task. So I suggest that everyone heed his advice.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:01 AM To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Andrew Sullivan Cc: gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Is the U.S. handing over control of the internet? -- FCW
Please don¹t write such Messages in this List - Its irrelevant !!! I, can¹t say for others, don¹t need you to tell us if other groups are existing or if IANA was important.
Thanks -Over & Out from Me
On 8/31/16, 7:20 PM, "Michele Neylon - Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
All
The IANA transition is a very important and interesting topic for discussion.
However this PDP¹s mailing list is not the appropriate venue for those discussions. There are plenty of other mailing lists and groups where the discussion would be more pertinent.
If you have a burning desire to discuss it with some of this group¹s members please do so offlist.
Regards
Michele
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On 30/08/2016, 19:52, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org on behalf of va@bladebrains.com> wrote:
It's just relevant - not important to be discussed. So if anyone thinking it is to be discussed- super not kool :-)
My share was just fyi - not discussion ! Some people chose to make it a point to argue - well i chose to asert !
Next time no Harry potter stories ;-)
Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted.
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan
<ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
> > Dear colleagues, >
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:33:50PM +0530, Group CEO-Vaibhav
Aggarwal wrote:
>> Right so where is it irrelevant ? It is relevant - in this
group, in other groups or even in the professional roles we are in !!! > > While I'm flattered that anyone should even notice anything I > published anywhere, I think there are other venues around ICANN that > are concentrating on the IANA transition, and I suggest that perhaps > their mailing lists are a better place to discuss that topic. This > PDP will almost certainly proceed the same way regardless of what > happens with the IANA stewardship transition, and it is helpful to > keep the list discussion focussed on the topic at hand. > > Best regards, > > A > -- > Andrew Sullivan > ajs@anvilwalrusden.com > _______________________________________________ > gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list > gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg
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Andrew Sullivan -
Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal -
Gomes, Chuck -
Greg Shatan -
Group CEO-Vaibhav Aggarwal -
Mark Svancarek -
Michele Neylon - Blacknight -
Volker Greimann