June 2017 - Gnso-rpm-sunrise

You are Invited! ICANN59 Reception
by Lori Schulman June 23, 2017

June 23, 2017

Dear RPM Subteam, As a thank you for everyone's hard work on our Friday calls, your cordially invited to INTA's reception in Johannesburg. Please see details below and RSVP at your convenience. Looking forward to seeing everyone. Lori [International Trademark Association: PowerfulNetworkPowerfulBrands]<http://echo4.bluehornet.com/ct/93253530:7ZXeqHbNx:m:1:3133627096:CBC4EABFD3…> [Pattishall Medal for Teaching Excellence]<http://echo4.bluehornet.com/ct/93253530:7ZXeqHbNx:m:1:3133627096:CBC4EABFD3…> You are Invited! Please join us for drinks and conversation on the occasion of ICANN59 in Johannesburg, South Africa! When: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:30 pm to 8:30 pm Where: Adams & Adams 2nd Floor, 34 Fredman Drive (Cnr 5th Street) Sandton Sponsored by: [http://echo4.bluehornet.com/cimages/73d08cc42669e84a270f24fa5d864ccb/Adams_…] Please note the updated registration link below. RSVP Today!<mailto:adminsupport.temp@inta.org?subject=RSVP%20for%20ICANN59> Copyright (c) 2017 International Trademark Association, 655 Third Avenue, 10th Floor, New York, NY 10017-5646 USA phone +1-212-642-1700 | fax +1-212-768-7796 | www.inta.org<http://www.inta.org> | MemberOperations(a)inta.org<mailto:MemberOperations@inta.org> Unsubscribe<http://echo4.bluehornet.com/p/o7ZXeqHbNx> | Forward to a friend<http://echo4.bluehornet.com/forwardthis/ft.php?mID=58048058&em=vnightingale…> ________________________________

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Report of the Sunrise Registrations Sub Team
by Amr Elsadr June 21, 2017

June 21, 2017

Dear Sub Team Members, Attached is the proposed report of the Sunrise Registrations Sub Team in .doc and .pdf formats. Please take some time to go through them. Staff will be sending them to the Working Group mailing list in a few hours in preparation for tomorrow’s Working Group meeting (21 June at 17:00 UTC). While going through the report, you should notice the following: * A cover note has been added to briefly outline what the Sub Team did in the course of its work. * The definitions of “reserved names”, “premium names” and “premium pricing” have been added to that note. * The data requirements column has been removed, and the data requirements identified have been moved to the bottom of the document. Each data set identified is referenced with the numbers of both the original Charter questions as well as those of the refined questions. The refined questions are also included for context. Please note that the Sub Team report is not a final work product. Working Group members will be reviewing and commenting on the report both during tomorrow’s Working Group call, as well as during the Working Group face-to-face meeting in Johannesburg. Sub Team members are also encouraged to continue discussing the Charter questions, the refined versions of these questions as well as possible data requirements with the rest of the Working Group. Thanks. Amr

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Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations
by Terri Agnew June 16, 2017

June 16, 2017

Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call and Adobe Connect chat attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on Friday, 16 June 2017 at 14:00 UTC. MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-16jun17-en.mp3 Adobe Connect recording: <https://participate.icann.org/p9llx6dyami/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=fe4916c8d08a1d57 b6033c272f8baf21b82328e1f63d18ee81e3277664cd772f> https://participate.icann.org/p9llx6dyami/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar[gnso.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group -2Dactivities_calendar&d=DwMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5c M&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=iS6rOJSSqf-KdprAEG2n7bmNvH 06rW_snVqnocIauKY&s=BswacfyhI-2Cpc8D6MkoJIe9LD2tmAQoDcfBgoaSjNE&e=> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/MVLwAw Thank you. Kind regards, Julie

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Definitions of Reserved Names, Premium Names and Premium Pricing
by Lori Schulman June 16, 2017

June 16, 2017

I am taking stab at definitions so we can have a jumping off point. I would like to have these nailed down by the time of our call on Friday. Reserved names: second level domain names that are withheld from registration per written agreement between the registry and ICANN. Premium names: second level domain names that are offered for registration that, in the determination of the registry, are more desirable for the purchaser” Premium pricing, “second level domain names that are offered for registration, that in the determination of the registry are more desirable for the purchaser and will command a price that is higher than a nonpremium name. Premium prices may vary depending on what the registry perceives as having greater value to the domain purchaser. This may include: length of string; whether the string is an acronym, dictionary term or trademark with established good will.” Lori Please send you Lori S. Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy International Trademark Association (INTA) +1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman From: gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:10 AM To: gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org Subject: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Action Items from the Sunrise Registrations Sub Team Call - 9 June 2017 Dear Sunrise Registrations Sub Team Members, Below are the action items from the Sub Team Call on 9 June. The action items, notes, meeting document and materials as well as recordings and transcripts have been posted to the meeting’s wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/HjzwAw. Thanks. Amr Action Items: 1. Staff to reword question 16 to: “Explore use and the types of proof required by the TMCH when purchasing domains in the sunrise period.” 2. Staff to replace “RPMs” with “Sunrise” in questions 17 through 21 3. Staff to rephrase Q22 as: “Are there certain registries that should not have a mandatory sunrise based on their published registration/eligibility policies?” and add examples mentioned by Kathy Kleiman and Kristine Dorrain 4. Staff to assist the Sub Team/Working Group on necessary adjustments to the workplan, taking into consideration the time required for the Sub Team to complete its work, and the Working Group’s time requirement in conducting the review of Sunrise Registrations 5. Maxim Alzoba to supply suggestion for data on question 16 (or another question as appropriate) 6. Outstanding action item for the Sub Team to define “reserved names”, “premium names” and “premium pricing” 7. Sub Team to suggest data requirements to answer questions 17 and 22 before next week’s call ________________________________

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Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Ext] Re: Action Items from the Sunrise Registrations Sub Team Call - 9 June 2017
by Amr Elsadr June 15, 2017

June 15, 2017

Hello Maxim, Thank you very much for this information, particularly on the TLD Startup Information. You had previously mentioned the TLD Startup Page in the google doc, but following the link you provided below has been helpful in understanding how this might prove useful in terms of acquiring data relevant to LRPs and QLPs for different TLDs. I will do some more digging into this, and get back to you, and the rest of the Sub Team (or possibly the broader Working Group). Regarding question 16, it might also be helpful to take a closer look at how proof-of-use is established to make TMCH registrants eligible for Sunrise, and compare to the scenarios you’ve described. And your comment regarding the absence of a process to revoke a Sunrise registration, even if the eligibility for Sunrise has been disputed and proven false was captured in the call notes. Thanks again, Maxim. Very much appreciate the follow up. Amr From: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba(a)gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 12:27 PM To: Amr Elsadr <amr.elsadr(a)icann.org> Cc: "gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Action Items from the Sunrise Registrations Sub Team Call - 9 June 2017 Hello Amr, I 'm sorry for causing confusion - I had two notes , one about Q16, and the other about Q11. I meant (for Q16) that there are no way to establish in advance if the "single item proof of use" is just an intent of gaming Sunrise registration without any other business with the current TM (TM registered, tokens 3D printed - sent to a neighbour with payment vial Paypal, domain registered, and TM - left on the wind to expire or cancelled). And there is no way to distinguish such attempt from the situation with the new project on (for example) Kickstarter or some other similar crowdfunding site, where a single item manufactured and sent to someone as a test item in exchange for some small coin, (TM registered, due to expectations of future business, Registered in TMCH with that item sent as a proof of use), and nobody knowns if it is going to be a success or not, but still it is a legitimate use of TMCH + Sunrise registration in my opinion (business idea, formal paperwork to protect it, formal processes to get the domain name, expectations of future business and investments). Also I underlined that according to the current set of Policies/RA/RAA 2013 there is no way to revoke the domain on grounds that the TM is not in TMCH anymore, or TM expired or cancelled. ==== My other note was about Q11: and the way to establish number of registrations during LRPs (the single and only .Madrid ALP has no registrations at the moment , so it is Zero for ALPs) To establish number of LRPs per TLD (then repeat for other TLDs): 1. go to TLD Startup information portal, where all ROs are obliged to upload their information about Launch Plans including all periods https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/sunrise-claims-periods[newgtld…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__newgtlds.icann.org_en_…> 2. search for a particular TLD 3. you will see in Other Periods items as: Qualified Launch Program ( QLP) Limited Registration Period ( period limited to some subset of potential registrants ) Exclusive Registration Period (TMCH Sunrise - description will have " start-date" or "end-date" for different kinds of ) and open/close dates since the database is a property of ICANN - ICANN staff could request making data selection to get windows of registration and kins of registrations then it should be processed versus registrations at those dates (it can be found in data escrow and to some extent in RO's reports to ICANN - those are monthly)) so when the time window of a particular period were found - all registrations of that TLD, which are not 9998 or 9999 (RO itself) are made according to that Period rules (LRP, or Sunrise) the same page has Open and Close dates for Trademark Claims (so it could be used to understand, how many registrations where made during the Claims period vs. other registrations in a particular TLD). 4. if you want all data of all TLDs in one - the same page has Export Data button - which gives you XLS file with all current TLDs (those who are already submitted Launch plans, and it means other are not active). P.s: Please be aware that terminated TLDs are there too (like doosan ), and to distinguish them - https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registry-agreement-termination-2…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resource…> Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID m. +7 916 6761580(+whatsapp) skype oldfrogger Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On Jun 13, 2017, at 02:09, Amr Elsadr <amr.elsadr(a)icann.org<mailto:amr.elsadr@icann.org>> wrote: Dear Sunrise Registrations Sub Team Members, Below are the action items from the Sub Team Call on 9 June. The action items, notes, meeting document and materials as well as recordings and transcripts have been posted to the meeting’s wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/HjzwAw[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_…>. Thanks. Amr Action Items: 1. Staff to reword question 16 to: “Explore use and the types of proof required by the TMCH when purchasing domains in the sunrise period.” 2. Staff to replace “RPMs” with “Sunrise” in questions 17 through 21 3. Staff to rephrase Q22 as: “Are there certain registries that should not have a mandatory sunrise based on their published registration/eligibility policies?” and add examples mentioned by Kathy Kleiman and Kristine Dorrain 4. Staff to assist the Sub Team/Working Group on necessary adjustments to the workplan, taking into consideration the time required for the Sub Team to complete its work, and the Working Group’s time requirement in conducting the review of Sunrise Registrations 5. Maxim Alzoba to supply suggestion for data on question 16 (or another question as appropriate) 6. Outstanding action item for the Sub Team to define “reserved names”, “premium names” and “premium pricing” 7. Sub Team to suggest data requirements to answer questions 17 and 22 before next week’s call _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-sunrise mailing list Gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-sunrise

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Action Items from the Sunrise Registrations Sub Team Call - 9 June 2017
by Amr Elsadr June 12, 2017

June 12, 2017

Dear Sunrise Registrations Sub Team Members, Below are the action items from the Sub Team Call on 9 June. The action items, notes, meeting document and materials as well as recordings and transcripts have been posted to the meeting’s wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/HjzwAw. Thanks. Amr Action Items: 1. Staff to reword question 16 to: “Explore use and the types of proof required by the TMCH when purchasing domains in the sunrise period.” 2. Staff to replace “RPMs” with “Sunrise” in questions 17 through 21 3. Staff to rephrase Q22 as: “Are there certain registries that should not have a mandatory sunrise based on their published registration/eligibility policies?” and add examples mentioned by Kathy Kleiman and Kristine Dorrain 4. Staff to assist the Sub Team/Working Group on necessary adjustments to the workplan, taking into consideration the time required for the Sub Team to complete its work, and the Working Group’s time requirement in conducting the review of Sunrise Registrations 5. Maxim Alzoba to supply suggestion for data on question 16 (or another question as appropriate) 6. Outstanding action item for the Sub Team to define “reserved names”, “premium names” and “premium pricing” 7. Sub Team to suggest data requirements to answer questions 17 and 22 before next week’s call

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Definitions of Reserved Names, Premium Names and Premium Sunrise Pricing
by Amr Elsadr June 9, 2017

June 9, 2017

Dear Sub Team Members, Just a quick reminder that there is an outstanding action item for suggested definitions of “Reserved Names”, “Premium Names” and “Premium Sunrise Pricing”. This action item is from the 12 May Sub Team call. On today’s Sub Team call, it was suggested that a small group of volunteers work on a first draft of these definitions. If you are interested in joining a small group to do this, please make yourself known. Alternatively, if Sub Team members have suggestions for definitions, please do share them on the mailing list. Thanks, and have a good weekend. Amr

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Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations
by Julie Bisland June 9, 2017

June 9, 2017

Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on Friday, 09 June 2017 at 14:00 UTC. MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-09jun17-en.mp3 Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p3z7fe2i2ny/<https://participate.icann.org/p3z7fe2i2ny/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=155295b65430a30c…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/HjzwAw Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Adobe Connect chat transcript for 09 June 2017: Julie Bisland:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on Friday, 09 June 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):good. I had to find the l highest place in the village to get good connection :) pedestrian bridge on a railway station Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):Hello all Julie Bisland:hello Maxim! Welcome! Jeff Neuman:I am only on for 30 mins Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):I think I am for 40-45 mins Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):the chart is way better Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):then the previous form we have used Amr Elsadr:Also note that any recommendatins made by this Sub Team are also subject to agreement by the full Working Group. Mary Wong:@Lori, from the staff perspective, having a separate Column 2 and Column 3 makes sense Mary Wong:Because it allows the WG to track what happened to each original Charter question J. Scott:leave as is. Since so many hands have been on this keeping it as is becomes important. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):is it reasonable to call it description ? we develop initial questions and describe ouout thinking Kathy:Lori: when you say to collapse columns 2 and 3, could you kindly give headings? Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):instead of footnotes Kathy:It's a little confusing which column is which. Kathy:What does yellow mean? and blue? Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):we need the text in the end about meaning of colours and numbers in each Mary Wong:@Maxim, yes - if the Sub Team wants to keep the color coding we will include a key that explains each color. Amr Elsadr:@Kathy: The colors don't have significant meaning themselves. Questions that were initially batched together were highlighted in the same colors. Philip Corwin:Apologies for late arrival. I am awaiting operator. Kathy:@Amr, tx! May want to put that into a code or key at the bottom of the pages... Mary Wong:@Kathy, as noted above, that is what we plan to do if the colors remain. Kathy:Great! Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):yes Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):please clear my hand status (it stuck) Jeremy Malcolm:could not hear any of that, is anyone else having audio trouble? Mary Wong:Thanks, Lori. Mary Wong:@Jeremy, I don't believe so. Lori Schulman:No audio trouble on my end. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):it is new hand Kathy:"Abuse of use" Lori Schulman:ok, Maxim Kathy:great Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):it is both . so an we coulcould underline that we are interested only in sunrise aspaspect here Mary Wong:The Sub Team can recommend to the WG that it will be necesary for the WG to tackle the broader question. Kathy:good question Lori Schulman:Is there a way to challenge use? Lori Schulman:Is there a way for a challenging to see the proof of use? Mary Wong:@Lori, all - it's not specifically called out, but the TMCH's Dispute Resolution Policies allow a third party to challenge records accepted into the TMCH. Mary Wong:Specific registry Sunrise Dispute Resolution Policies may also have addiitional provisions about this. Mary Wong:OK - both TMCH dispute resolution policy and each registry-specific policy. Lori Schulman:So we should ask whether policies currently have language about access to proof of use documents Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):it does not work when TM lost after the end of a particular sunrise Lori Schulman:Suggestion: sampling of policies from individual registries Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):excuse me. need to drop the call. my train Lori Schulman:thank for your contributions Maxim Kathy:Should we link #16 and SDRP questions below? Kathy:will review... Mary Wong:@Lori, I believe the TMCH was supposed to be set up to accept different langauges and scripts Kathy:perfect! Kathy:agree Lori Schulman:For questions 17-22 substitute Sunrise for RPM and note to reorder them to be the first questions asked. Mary Wong:@Lori, that's what happens when suggestions are copied wholesale without editing Kathy:I'm sorry Maxim had to leave. Lori Schulman:Are there certain registries that should not have a mandatory sunrise? Lori Schulman:for question 22 Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:^based on their published registration/eligibility policies Kathy:let's keep some examples too - it helps those who are approaching this anew. Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:(to be clear), not just because the tld is a dictionary word that has a dictionary meaning. Amr Elsadr:May I capture an action item for Sub Team members to review the reworded question 22, and suggest further improvements? Lori Schulman:right: Are there certain registries that should not have a mandatory sunrise based on their published registration/eligibility policies Mary Wong:Hello Klaus!! Amr Elsadr:Apologies. Was dropped off the call. Julie Bisland:Verizon op is called Amr Kathy:+1 Amr Elsadr:Back on now. Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Qualified favor.. Kathy:Tx you, Lori!!! Philip Corwin:Amen to that. Let's put this bed before Johannesburg Amr Elsadr:Will do, Lori. Thanks. Amr Elsadr:As discussed yesterday, it'd be helpful to plan as far ahead as ICANN 61 - need to have preliminary recommendations on phase 1 to solicit input on them from the borader community at that meeting next year. Jeremy Malcolm:no thanks Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.

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Agenda for Sunrise Sub Team call
by Mary Wong June 8, 2017

June 8, 2017

Dear Sub Team members, The agenda for the call this week (9 June 2017) is as follows: 1. Roll call 2. Sub Team discussion of latest version of the Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9… 3. Next steps (including estimate of completion date) and next meeting Thanks and cheers Mary

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Action Items from Sunrise Registrations Sub Team Call - 2 June 2017
by Amr Elsadr June 2, 2017

June 2, 2017

Dear Sunrise Registrations Sub Team Members, Below are the action items from today’s Sub Team Call. The action items, notes, meeting document and materials as well as recordings have been posted to the meeting’s wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/hjHwAw. The transcripts will be posted on the same page, once they are available. Thanks. Amr Action Items: 1. Sub Team to proceed to edit current table/google doc<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9…> – Lori Schulman to work with staff on proposed way forward 2. Remove "final" from title of 3rd column, and retitle to "Proposed Footnotes or Alternative Wording" in the latest table/google doc<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9…>

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Sunrise Sub Team Google Doc
by Mary Wong June 2, 2017

June 2, 2017

Dear all, Following from Lori’s request on the Sub Team call today for members to review and add suggestions to the Google Doc last used by the Sub Team (i.e. as of 19 May 2017), here for your convenience is the link to the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9…. Staff has gone ahead, as requested, and amended the heading in Column 3 to now read “Proposed Footnotes or Alternative Wording”. The default editing format should also now be in Suggestion mode. Thanks and cheers Mary From: <gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Terri Agnew <terri.agnew(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, June 2, 2017 at 13:59 To: "gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org> Cc: "gnso-secs(a)icann.org" <gnso-secs(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on Friday, 02 June 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/hjHwAw MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-02jun17-en.mp3 Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p5uwrklj7io/<https://participate.icann.org/p5uwrklj7io/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=1d0b66cd3929354d…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/msrRAw Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Adobe Connect chat transcript for 02 June 2017: Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations call on Friday, 2 June 2017 at 14:00 UTC for 60-minute duration. Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_… Susan Payne:I'm here Kathy::-( sorry to hear Kathy:definitely remember people being sick in Hyderabad! Lori Schulman:I thought I would die in Hyderbad Lori Schulman:with no money ;O Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):Hello , both 4g and cell network have weak signals , so I will drop from time to time Susan Payne:yay Kathy:Congrats!! Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Congrats to INTA, Lori Mary Wong:19 May Philip Corwin:Hello all, apologies for being a few minutes late. Susan Payne:I think the trouble was that any INTA attendees were also travelling on 19th Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):and in my case it is a blizzard in the second day of summer and a hurricane warning :) Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):could we have a poll (to measure the temperature of the subgroup ) with yes, no , other and text field . ? Mary Wong:Staff would like to register our surprise that we have been perceived to have put pressure on anyone or given orders to anyone. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):if the input of the teteam is not taken into account , then what is the reason to call it a result of the teamwork ? Mary Wong:27 April Jeff Neuman:what is the most up to date link? Amr Elsadr:@Jeff: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume… Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):please post the in URL question sheet into the chat Mary Wong:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nm91bUcbX-PhA1imkKdOujWWRXsbyORq5a… Jeff Neuman:Why are there 2 different docs? Jeff Neuman:I am confused Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):the URLS are differ one from other Jeff Neuman:And they both have different content Mary Wong:Oops, hang on, sorry - Amr's link is the correct one to the latest. The other is an earlier document.. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):please add ffield Verson number and date Philip Corwin:Later doc has 14 questions, apparently consolidated from 22 earlier Jeff Neuman:ok....and that differs from the one that was in the agenda for this week as well Amr Elsadr:Apologies for the confusion. The link I posted is the latest of three drafts. Links to all previous work is provided in an email I sent titled "Summary of Progress on the Sunrise Registration Sub Team" on May 24. Lori Schulman:The latest is Kathy's new doc, is that correct? Amr Elsadr:Kathy's doc (edited by Kristine) is the one posted for discussion on today's meeting wiki page here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_… . This hasn't been discussed by the Sub Team yet. Lori Schulman:I would like Kathy's document kept separate from the original chart Jeff Neuman:In the new chart, can we add a column again to the original charter question? Susan Payne:so by current doc then the 19 May doc Amr Elsadr:The most recent document that had been subject to Sub Team edits and discussion prior to the Kathy/Kristine document is the one posted here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume… Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):I added same notes to different versions and they are still disappearing ... weird Mary Wong:Note that what we discussed on the 19 May call is essentially the 12 May document - I don't believe any substantive changes were made to the proposed questions, there were only some additional comments made by a few Sub Team members. Amr Elsadr:@Maxim: Your comments were moved to the last column in the table, to be able to present them in the document in the AC room. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):I do not agree that we present undone work for sake of timeline. Amr Elsadr:@Maxim: Could you please check the "Sub Team Suggestions on Data Collection" column in this table: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume… . Your comments are tagged with your name. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):I unfortunately in the middle of nowhnowhere with 2 cell phones , can not do it now Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):I bring apologies. need to drop the all due to my train is coming. Amr Elsadr:Please do follow up with me and Mary if you find any of your comments have been dropped. Roger Carney:Can you repeat? Jeff Neuman:I am unclear on what we are voting on Philip Corwin:Noting above that Mary has stated that the May 12 & 19 docs are substantively identical Jeff Neuman:so, this one? https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume… Terri Agnew:Maxim has dropped and unable to rejoin at this time Amr Elsadr:@Jeff: Correct. Mary Wong:@Jeff, yes Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Kathy, were were told that column 3 wsa going forward on the call? In an email? Because I missed it... Mary Wong:At no time did staff declare that Column 3 of the latest Google Doc was the final version and would be sent to the WG. Our understanding was that further work (e.g. footnotes, re-ordering, some tweaking) might be done following more Sub Team discussion. Susan Payne:there is work underway currently on staff accountability. If staff have been accused of overstepping the bounds it is your duty to identify who you are accusing and give us the details Kathy:What is the current document? Kathy:Wha tis the master set of questions. Kathy:Column 1 or Column 3 Jeff Neuman:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlx… Jeff Neuman:SOme of the reworded questions seems to have a bias in them. For example, in number two, using the word "scheme" implies a negative connotation. It may be that some find the premium name issue to be negative, but that term is not objective Mary Wong:@Phi, that is correct - e.g. where there are identified gaps that should be filled. Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:@ Jeff, I think the point is that those proposed final questions were just that "proposed"...we can still tweak them. Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+1 Susan Amr Elsadr:Would it be helpful to retitle the 3rd column to "Proposed footnotes to Charter Questions"? Kiran Malancharuvil:+1 Lori... I would prefer to see everything in one document with notes and explanations Susan Payne:NO we are not knocking out Phil Marano:Can we please keep what we had before the INTA Annual Meeting, and characterize any subsequent changes made as proposals for sub-team consideration, all in one document? Kiran Malancharuvil:+1 Phil. Mary Wong:@Phil M, I think that's what Lori is proposing - with the Google Doc. Kathy:How? Roger Carney:+1 Phil Kiran Malancharuvil:"How?" - Lori just explained how. Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:What I like about the doc Kathy created is the cross-referencing. I support referencing the "general" questions. In the main "sunrise-related question" where appropriate. I don't think we need to pull them up because they're there, but I think we should cross-reference to ensure inclusin. Kathy:+1 Jeff Mary Wong:@Jeff, note that the rewording, by and large, was because several Charter questions were batched together. Kathy:New column? Amr Elsadr:@Kathy: In the Comments/Discussion column? Would that work? Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:But Jeff, one of the outcomes was a workplan...batching relates to the recommended order for discussion Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:not *necessarily* rewording Jeff Neuman:You can batch questions without combining them. Susan Payne:but we werent dropping the charter q original language we were providing notes/guidance/additional thoughts Jeff Neuman:So, in other words, you can provide guidance that says that Questions 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9 are all related so we would recommend that they be answered first. But that does not mean we need to combine 1, 3, 5, and 7 into a reworded question Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:For staff: Can we possibly make sure that the Google doc is in Suggestion mode? That way it pulls out all author suggestions as a comment rather than running all edits together. Jeff Neuman:@Kristine - I agree Philip Corwin:Yes, they are a compilation of multiple community inputs, not a directive from Council Susan Payne:@Jeff precisely, that was my understanding of what we are doing here Mary Wong:Note that there has been an outstanding Action Item for the Sub Team for the past few weeks - to develop proposed definitions for "premium names", "premium pricing" and "reserved names". Kiran Malancharuvil:+1 Lori Susan Payne:+ 1 Lori Kiran Malancharuvil:Free expression and speech IS a trademark issue and a registry issue Kiran Malancharuvil:To suggest that trademark owners and consumer advocates aren't considering free expression is a mischaracterization at best. Susan Payne:thank you Lori Kathy:Interesting Geo questions too... Jeff Neuman:thanks. Lets see if we can make progress online in between meetings Kiran Malancharuvil:Thanks Lori.

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Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations
by Terri Agnew June 2, 2017

June 2, 2017

Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on Friday, 02 June 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/hjHwAw> https://community.icann.org/x/hjHwAw MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-02jun17-en.mp3 Adobe Connect recording: <https://participate.icann.org/p5uwrklj7io/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=1d0b66cd3929354d 21560731d101913a0a7092f23edd328723cd77441b3653ca> https://participate.icann.org/p5uwrklj7io/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/ Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/msrRAw> https://community.icann.org/x/msrRAw Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Adobe Connect chat transcript for 02 June 2017: Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations call on Friday, 2 June 2017 at 14:00 UTC for 60-minute duration. Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_h jHwAw <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_ hjHwAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpC IgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg- g&s=xtlECPMGwYE7JE6VVl1xPvOLSDAV_6TnOYWAMdwpEgg&e> &d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXh FzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=xt lECPMGwYE7JE6VVl1xPvOLSDAV_6TnOYWAMdwpEgg&e= Susan Payne:I'm here Kathy::-( sorry to hear Kathy:definitely remember people being sick in Hyderabad! Lori Schulman:I thought I would die in Hyderbad Lori Schulman:with no money ;O Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):Hello , both 4g and cell network have weak signals , so I will drop from time to time Susan Payne:yay Kathy:Congrats!! Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Congrats to INTA, Lori Mary Wong:19 May Philip Corwin:Hello all, apologies for being a few minutes late. Susan Payne:I think the trouble was that any INTA attendees were also travelling on 19th Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):and in my case it is a blizzard in the second day of summer and a hurricane warning :) Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):could we have a poll (to measure the temperature of the subgroup ) with yes, no , other and text field . ? Mary Wong:Staff would like to register our surprise that we have been perceived to have put pressure on anyone or given orders to anyone. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):if the input of the teteam is not taken into account , then what is the reason to call it a result of the teamwork ? Mary Wong:27 April Jeff Neuman:what is the most up to date link? Amr Elsadr:@Jeff: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen t_d_1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9dBE4_edit <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume nt_d_1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9dBE4_edit&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6 wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2 EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=vGKhF6eUklBrKRm0ayPu5GX6 YOnEvCaywjjBZwyzpB0&e> &d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXh FzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=vG KhF6eUklBrKRm0ayPu5GX6YOnEvCaywjjBZwyzpB0&e= Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):please post the in URL question sheet into the chat Mary Wong:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nm91bUcbX-PhA1imkKdOujWWRXsbyORq5a7 8Aqc-ciM/edit?usp=sharing Jeff Neuman:Why are there 2 different docs? Jeff Neuman:I am confused Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):the URLS are differ one from other Jeff Neuman:And they both have different content Mary Wong:Oops, hang on, sorry - Amr's link is the correct one to the latest. The other is an earlier document.. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):please add ffield Verson number and date Philip Corwin:Later doc has 14 questions, apparently consolidated from 22 earlier Jeff Neuman:ok....and that differs from the one that was in the agenda for this week as well Amr Elsadr:Apologies for the confusion. The link I posted is the latest of three drafts. Links to all previous work is provided in an email I sent titled "Summary of Progress on the Sunrise Registration Sub Team" on May 24. Lori Schulman:The latest is Kathy's new doc, is that correct? Amr Elsadr:Kathy's doc (edited by Kristine) is the one posted for discussion on today's meeting wiki page here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_h jHwAw <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_ hjHwAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpC IgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg- g&s=xtlECPMGwYE7JE6VVl1xPvOLSDAV_6TnOYWAMdwpEgg&e> &d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXh FzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=xt lECPMGwYE7JE6VVl1xPvOLSDAV_6TnOYWAMdwpEgg&e= . This hasn't been discussed by the Sub Team yet. Lori Schulman:I would like Kathy's document kept separate from the original chart Jeff Neuman:In the new chart, can we add a column again to the original charter question? Susan Payne:so by current doc then the 19 May doc Amr Elsadr:The most recent document that had been subject to Sub Team edits and discussion prior to the Kathy/Kristine document is the one posted here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen t_d_1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9dBE4_edit <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume nt_d_1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9dBE4_edit&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6 wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2 EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=vGKhF6eUklBrKRm0ayPu5GX6 YOnEvCaywjjBZwyzpB0&e> &d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXh FzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=vG KhF6eUklBrKRm0ayPu5GX6YOnEvCaywjjBZwyzpB0&e= Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):I added same notes to different versions and they are still disappearing ... weird Mary Wong:Note that what we discussed on the 19 May call is essentially the 12 May document - I don't believe any substantive changes were made to the proposed questions, there were only some additional comments made by a few Sub Team members. Amr Elsadr:@Maxim: Your comments were moved to the last column in the table, to be able to present them in the document in the AC room. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):I do not agree that we present undone work for sake of timeline. Amr Elsadr:@Maxim: Could you please check the "Sub Team Suggestions on Data Collection" column in this table: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen t_d_1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9dBE4_edit <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume nt_d_1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9dBE4_edit&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6 wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2 EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=vGKhF6eUklBrKRm0ayPu5GX6 YOnEvCaywjjBZwyzpB0&e> &d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXh FzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=vG KhF6eUklBrKRm0ayPu5GX6YOnEvCaywjjBZwyzpB0&e= . Your comments are tagged with your name. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):I unfortunately in the middle of nowhnowhere with 2 cell phones , can not do it now Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):I bring apologies. need to drop the all due to my train is coming. Amr Elsadr:Please do follow up with me and Mary if you find any of your comments have been dropped. Roger Carney:Can you repeat? Jeff Neuman:I am unclear on what we are voting on Philip Corwin:Noting above that Mary has stated that the May 12 & 19 docs are substantively identical Jeff Neuman:so, this one? https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_documen t_d_1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9dBE4_edit <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume nt_d_1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9dBE4_edit&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6 wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2 EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=vGKhF6eUklBrKRm0ayPu5GX6 YOnEvCaywjjBZwyzpB0&e> &d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXh FzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6ivZl78AGS4vOjDURexNYiALVhRod2llQXc7P0ESg-g&s=vG KhF6eUklBrKRm0ayPu5GX6YOnEvCaywjjBZwyzpB0&e= Terri Agnew:Maxim has dropped and unable to rejoin at this time Amr Elsadr:@Jeff: Correct. Mary Wong:@Jeff, yes Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Kathy, were were told that column 3 wsa going forward on the call? In an email? Because I missed it... Mary Wong:At no time did staff declare that Column 3 of the latest Google Doc was the final version and would be sent to the WG. Our understanding was that further work (e.g. footnotes, re-ordering, some tweaking) might be done following more Sub Team discussion. Susan Payne:there is work underway currently on staff accountability. If staff have been accused of overstepping the bounds it is your duty to identify who you are accusing and give us the details Kathy:What is the current document? Kathy:Wha tis the master set of questions. Kathy:Column 1 or Column 3 Jeff Neuman:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxv E6Joa9dBE4/edit Jeff Neuman:SOme of the reworded questions seems to have a bias in them. For example, in number two, using the word "scheme" implies a negative connotation. It may be that some find the premium name issue to be negative, but that term is not objective Mary Wong:@Phi, that is correct - e.g. where there are identified gaps that should be filled. Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:@ Jeff, I think the point is that those proposed final questions were just that "proposed"...we can still tweak them. Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+1 Susan Amr Elsadr:Would it be helpful to retitle the 3rd column to "Proposed footnotes to Charter Questions"? Kiran Malancharuvil:+1 Lori... I would prefer to see everything in one document with notes and explanations Susan Payne:NO we are not knocking out Phil Marano:Can we please keep what we had before the INTA Annual Meeting, and characterize any subsequent changes made as proposals for sub-team consideration, all in one document? Kiran Malancharuvil:+1 Phil. Mary Wong:@Phil M, I think that's what Lori is proposing - with the Google Doc. Kathy:How? Roger Carney:+1 Phil Kiran Malancharuvil:"How?" - Lori just explained how. Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:What I like about the doc Kathy created is the cross-referencing. I support referencing the "general" questions. In the main "sunrise-related question" where appropriate. I don't think we need to pull them up because they're there, but I think we should cross-reference to ensure inclusin. Kathy:+1 Jeff Mary Wong:@Jeff, note that the rewording, by and large, was because several Charter questions were batched together. Kathy:New column? Amr Elsadr:@Kathy: In the Comments/Discussion column? Would that work? Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:But Jeff, one of the outcomes was a workplan...batching relates to the recommended order for discussion Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:not *necessarily* rewording Jeff Neuman:You can batch questions without combining them. Susan Payne:but we werent dropping the charter q original language we were providing notes/guidance/additional thoughts Jeff Neuman:So, in other words, you can provide guidance that says that Questions 1, 3, 5, 7, and 9 are all related so we would recommend that they be answered first. But that does not mean we need to combine 1, 3, 5, and 7 into a reworded question Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:For staff: Can we possibly make sure that the Google doc is in Suggestion mode? That way it pulls out all author suggestions as a comment rather than running all edits together. Jeff Neuman:@Kristine - I agree Philip Corwin:Yes, they are a compilation of multiple community inputs, not a directive from Council Susan Payne:@Jeff precisely, that was my understanding of what we are doing here Mary Wong:Note that there has been an outstanding Action Item for the Sub Team for the past few weeks - to develop proposed definitions for "premium names", "premium pricing" and "reserved names". Kiran Malancharuvil:+1 Lori Susan Payne:+ 1 Lori Kiran Malancharuvil:Free expression and speech IS a trademark issue and a registry issue Kiran Malancharuvil:To suggest that trademark owners and consumer advocates aren't considering free expression is a mischaracterization at best. Susan Payne:thank you Lori Kathy:Interesting Geo questions too... Jeff Neuman:thanks. Lets see if we can make progress online in between meetings Kiran Malancharuvil:Thanks Lori.

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Proposed agenda for Sunrise Sub Team call on 2 June 2017
by Mary Wong June 1, 2017

June 1, 2017

Dear all, Based on the email from Lori (below) and following consultation with her, here is the proposed agenda for the next Sunrise Sub Team call on Friday 2 June: 1. Kathy and Kristine to report on the scope and outcome of their Friday discussion 2. Kathy to highlight changes made to the batching, order and text of the questions listed in the last version of the Sub Team Google Doc and any further additions being proposed in the standalone document circulated on Monday 29 May 3. Sub Team to discuss and agree on approach and next steps in relation to the Charter questions 4. AOB and agreed Action Items for the next meeting To assist with the discussions, please find attached the standalone document circulated by Kathy on Monday, with Kristine’s edits from Tuesday. The Google Doc reflecting the original Charter questions as well as the proposed refinements last discussed by the Sub Team on 19 May can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9… Thanks and cheers Mary From: Lori Schulman <lschulman(a)inta.org> Date: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 06:01 To: "Dorrain, Kristine" <dorraink(a)amazon.com>, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org>, Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] RE: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Sunrise Questions - bringing wide ranging views together. Dear Christine, Mary and Kathy, I understand that a lot of work has gone into this draft and I think that the group should be given the opportunity to consider it as an alternative path to the work that we have done to date. That said, I am opposed to incorporating into any current charts. I would like it to be considered as a stand alone proposal. I have concerns that this was done when most of us where attending the INTA annual meeting and unavailable for calls. I think it is appropriate to give the subgroup the opportunity to consider whether they want to proceed with the alternative or to continue on the path that we started. I would ask that Kristine and Kathy be prepared to explain the rationale behind the work and contrast it to what was previously done. I want to remind the sub group that we were formed with the understanding that this would be a short term project to clarify and put order to currently existing questions and to coordinate them with the overall work plan. We had discussed bunching questions, eliminating redundancies and identifying what additional information would be needed to properly address the questions. We also agreed not to change any wording to the original questions but note we where would suggest clarification. I am concerned that the current proposal may have exceeded that agreement. However, I don’t want to rush to judgement and feel that all of us need adequate time to consider it and take the temperature of the subgroup before we post it on the wiki or anywhere else. I don’t see an attachment on the string, if the proposal is ready for consideration, please post it. Lori Lori S. Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy International Trademark Association (INTA) +1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman [id:image005.jpg@01D270D2.1801CD20] From: gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Dorrain, Kristine via Gnso-rpm-sunrise Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:15 PM To: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Sunrise Questions - bringing wide ranging views together. Mary, Kathy and all, Thanks, Kathy for taking the first crack. I have a bunch of edits in the attached, but I tried to explain them all. In a few cases, I had to hunt through the RA to figure out what the original charter questions were referring to. The second page is more redlined because that's where the examples of "solutions" were. I wanted to call out for the WG that these are NOT subteam-generated examples, but are right in the Charter Questions themselves. I strongly oppose adding our own examples to the charter questions. I also strongly think all pricing questions should be bundled/bunched. Let me know what you think. Best, Kristine -----Original Message----- From: gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:41 AM To: Kathy Kleiman <kathy(a)kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com%3e>; gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Sunrise Questions - bringing wide ranging views together. Thanks very much for taking this on, Kathy and Kristine, and for the updated list of questions. NOTE/QUESTION for Kathy, Kristine and Lori – since this new list is a significantly re-ordered and reworded version of the last Google Doc set of questions, I am not sure how it can easily be fitted into the Google Doc. Will it make more sense for the Sub Team to use this document for the Friday call, and for staff to compile the results of that discussion into a new table that compares the final wording and ordering with the original Charter questions? Thanks and cheers Mary On 5/29/17, 20:59, "gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman" <gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of kathy(a)kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com%3e> wrote: Hi All, In lieu of our meeting on Friday, Kristine and I sat down by phone and worked through the Sunrise questions from a number of different perspectives. We covered as many of our our almost 2 dozen Sunrise questions as possible. We tried to keep, in as neutral as way as possible, the charter questions given to us by Council and the rewritten questions that bind together overarching concepts. We found two arcs we would like to suggest for the Sunrise questions: Arc 1) Trademark Owners and Registrant Issues and Arc 2) Trademark Owners and Registry Operator Issues. Everything seems to fall fairly neatly into those two categories. We replaced language that some members of the subteam objected to as confusing or meaning something else. I took the pen from there, and Kristine is still reviewing. In the interest of time, let me circulate these questions to the full subteam. Thoughts on next steps appreciated. Should we add these to the Wiki? Best, Kathy _______________________________________________ Gnso-rpm-sunrise mailing list Gnso-rpm-sunrise(a)icann.org<mailto:Gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-sunrise

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