January 2019 - Gnso-rpm-sunrise

RPM sub team homework assignments need to be "bite-sized"
by George Kirikos Feb. 13, 2019

Feb. 13, 2019

(cross-posting to both sub team lists) Hi folks, I spent about 4 hours today attempting the sub team homework assignments for this week (tomorrow), and have only gone through the first four (of the twelve) source documents, to try to cross-reference relevant data against the charter questions. I spoke with a couple of other very active sub team members who are also concerned about the workload for this week. Perhaps different members have different expectations on the amount of outside time expected to be devoted between calls, but for myself, 4 hours is already pushing things (it typically took me around that much time for the past homework assignments too). I think we need to discuss breaking the tasks down into more bite-sized pieces, as there was just too much to review for this week. I know staff has already attempted to pick out relevant data for each charter question, but it wouldn't be a "review" if we as sub team members didn't read the source documents ourselves independently, and simply relied on what staff provided. Also, it might have been easier to do the review if staff input was in the (currently) blank Google docs, rather than in the spreadsheet tabs, as even on a 27" monitor, it was difficult to compare their input with my own as I was reading the various source documents, and tried to switch multiple tabs/documents. If others share these concerns, please do take a moment to comment or provide suggestions on ideal expected duration of assignments (in hours), technical impediments, etc. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/

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[HOMEWORK] Review First 4 Documents & Answer All Charter Questions - Due Tue 5 Feb 18:00 UTC
by Ariel Liang Feb. 6, 2019

Feb. 6, 2019

Dear Sunrise Sub Team members, By Tuesday, 5 February at 18:00 UTC, the Sunrise Sub Team is tasked to focus on reviewing the first four (4) source documents in the ‘Source’ tab of the analysis tool, and provide input in the Google Docs set up for ALL Sunrise Charter Questions. * When providing input, please note the source name and page/slide number of the previously collected data. * For those who have completed reviewing the first four (4) source documents and filling in the google docs, you are welcome to continue tackling the subsequent source documents in the same fashion. * By the deadline, the Google Docs will be locked to prevent further editing and their PDFs will be circulated to the Sub Team. Staff will accept and indicate the new input in the Google Doc for the ease of viewing. Source Documents: 1. Registry Operator Responses to Initial Survey from TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64066042/Registry%20Respon… 2. Deloitte responses to initial questions from TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64066042/Deloitte%20respon… 3. Deloitte TMCH Report: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/attachments/20170311/e28abe0e/IC… 4. Response to follow up questions - Apr 2017: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/attachments/20170414/4591dc7c/De… Google Docs: * Preamble Sunrise Charter Question: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ph-QXnQLWPVXCDVtM8l51r8Nt0Xojil-CR0fU6c… * Sunrise Charter Question 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zi5rDXEkLGMuuRdSgXncOoPVO3vR783yQQ1JYMH… * Sunrise Charter Question 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k8SXcZRSzluqAVkTxYJL63qbBt_A8e9vZNdoKJp… * Sunrise Charter Question 3: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10npR7b_6WWJZ6J20583GNq2OLM4jBp-sS-Yeq56… * Sunrise Charter Question 4: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ecm9e0jiA6dPsUcACNlHOLgFD5tZPgU3PzF3WtD… * Sunrise Charter Question 5a: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyuNzBmNDwoZeTd5_y4-WYM7aW3xHdKd0e5QuDA… * Sunrise Charter Question 5b: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FMnziYZo0vZdgLVS89wtCQ4Cb5J9tkM_D17r7eC… * Sunrise Charter Question 6: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15sQKDNohg3Cp6i35U9NKo3r1R_-fxjLHm4D7ant… * Sunrise Charter Question 7: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cbCKnoIzu5ok3OS5dLi1Kw6dh0-OHa0cjDo1LEv… * Sunrise Charter Question 8: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aovilYvgbzf0GXyVN1sBUC2BZCsabnkEvKoQ9SJ… * Sunrise Charter Question 9: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IvPOFuKMmNdJNyaUmzcnnLsb_-Qmkejn-rvGp3f… * Sunrise Charter Question 10: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19aBDQ-QFPPYcxwKiR7v5ruojFEYgtggET59N8bH… * Sunrise Charter Question 11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sKYwbyUrWYOg2FKzSuZLobdwzi10CZnRgT6SsZr… * Sunrise Charter Question 12: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jz_VC-96ki-yvLKxIB7ld8IB6wtwSnFnHU1lJlS… How to Use the Analysis Tool (Google Spreadsheet): Some Sub Team members have voiced difficulties/confusion when using the Analysis Tool: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SzvdmVhY8dZ4I_ZGVoN5lOSueHNzbm1jQEr…. Staff have included some further instruction below to assist: * Source Tab includes direct download links to the Sunrise related data collected between December 2016 and March 2018, including reports, slides, and other documents. They are the same documents as those mentioned in the Summary Table. * Sunrise Tab includes excerpts/quotes from the previously collected data: * The excerpts/quotes are directly copied from the source documents. Relevant page/slide reference to the actual source documents are included in the parenthesis on the top. * Staff believe the data in the excerpts/quotes may assist in answering the final agreed Charter questions, but this exercise is not staff’s attempt to directly answer the Charter questions. * In Column B, Staff provided the summaries of the excerpts/quotes to facilitate your viewing. * The excerpts/quotes cited by Staff are based on our own understanding of the previously collected data. They are meant to speed up the Sub Team’s review of the data but not meant to be exclusive. * Sub Team members are encouraged to download and reference the actual source documents, linked from the Source Tab, to cite relevant information that may help answer the final agreed Charter questions. Thank you for your time and contribution. Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Berry, and Ariel

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REVIEW by COB THURSDAY - Draft Summary Table of AG Survey Data Deliberation
by Ariel Liang Jan. 31, 2019

Jan. 31, 2019

Dear Sunrise Sub Team Members, On behalf of the Sub Team Co-Chairs, staff are sharing the draft summary table that includes the Sub Team’s deliberation on the Analysis Group survey results. Please find the document attached. For each of the Sunrise charter question, staff have included in the second column of the table: 1) a draft summary of whether/how the AG survey data answers the charter question and its sub question(s); 2) tab/cell reference to survey data in the analysis tool spreadsheet (staff consolidated these references from the Google Doc); 3) link to the Google Doc for details; and 4) wiki page link(s) to Sub Team meeting(s) when this charter question was discussed. Please be so kind to review the draft summary table and if you find any inaccuracy/mischaracterization of the outcome of the discussion, please provide suggested revision via the mailing list by COB Thursday, 31 January. The goal is to share the summary table with the full WG by the end of this week to fulfill the reporting requirement. Thank you for your review and input. Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Ariel

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Recordings, attendance & AC chat on Review of all Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sunrise Data Review Sub Team call Wednesday, 30 January 2019 18:00 UTC
by Michelle DeSmyter Jan. 31, 2019

Jan. 31, 2019

Dear all, Please find the attendance and AC Chat attached to this email, and the MP3 & AC recording below for the Review of all Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sunrise Data Review Sub Team call held Wednesday, 30 January 2019 at 18:00 UTC. Attendance and recording of the call is also posted on agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/jwj_BQ MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-sunrise-registrations-30jan19-… AC Recording: https://participate.icann.org/p6a5ii35t51/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar/2019 [gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_grou…> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/ Main wiki page for the working group: https://community.icann.org/x/KhGsAw Thank you. Kind Regards, Michelle

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Agenda: RPM Sunrise Sub Team Meeting 06 February 1800 UTC
by Julie Hedlund Jan. 30, 2019

Jan. 30, 2019

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Actions & Notes: RPM Sunrise Sub Team Meeting 30 January 1800 UTC
by Julie Hedlund Jan. 30, 2019

Jan. 30, 2019

Dear All, Please see below the action items and notes captured by staff from the RPM Sunrise Sub Team meeting held on 30 January 2019 (18:00-19:00 UTC). Staff have posted to the wiki space the action items and notes. Please note that these are high-level notes and are not meant as a substitute for the recording, chat room, or transcript. The recording, AC chat, transcript and attendance records are posted on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/2019-01-30+Sub+Team+for+Su…. Best Regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director == NOTES & ACTION ITEMS Actions: By Tuesday, 5 February at 18:00 UTC (see separate email for details), the Sunrise Sub Team is tasked to focus on reviewing the first four (4) source documents in the ‘Source’ tab of the analysis tool, and provide input in the Google Docs set up for ALL Sunrise Charter Questions. When providing input, please note the source name and page/slide number of the previously collected data. For those who have completed reviewing the first four (4) source documents and filling in the google docs, you are welcome to continue tackling the subsequent source documents in the same fashion. By the deadline, the Google Docs will be locked to prevent further editing and their PDFs will be circulated to the Sub Team. Staff will accept and indicate the new input in the Google Doc for the ease of viewing. Source Documents: Registry Operator Responses to Initial Survey from TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64066042/Registry%20R… Deloitte responses to initial questions from TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64066042/Deloitte%20r… Deloitte TMCH Report: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/attachments/20170311/e28abe0e/IC… Response to follow up questions - Apr 2017: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/attachments/20170414/4591dc7c/De… Google Docs: Preamble Sunrise Charter Question: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ph-QXnQLWPVXCDVtM8l51r8Nt0Xojil-CR0fU6c… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zi5rDXEkLGMuuRdSgXncOoPVO3vR783yQQ1JYMH… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k8SXcZRSzluqAVkTxYJL63qbBt_A8e9vZNdoKJp… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 3: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10npR7b_6WWJZ6J20583GNq2OLM4jBp-sS-Yeq56… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 4: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ecm9e0jiA6dPsUcACNlHOLgFD5tZPgU3PzF3WtD… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 5a: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyuNzBmNDwoZeTd5_y4-WYM7aW3xHdKd0e5QuDA… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 5b: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FMnziYZo0vZdgLVS89wtCQ4Cb5J9tkM_D17r7eC… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 6: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15sQKDNohg3Cp6i35U9NKo3r1R_-fxjLHm4D7ant… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 7: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cbCKnoIzu5ok3OS5dLi1Kw6dh0-OHa0cjDo1LEv… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 8: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aovilYvgbzf0GXyVN1sBUC2BZCsabnkEvKoQ9SJ… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 9: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IvPOFuKMmNdJNyaUmzcnnLsb_-Qmkejn-rvGp3f… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 10: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19aBDQ-QFPPYcxwKiR7v5ruojFEYgtggET59N8bH… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sKYwbyUrWYOg2FKzSuZLobdwzi10CZnRgT6SsZr… [docs.google.com] Sunrise Charter Question 12: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jz_VC-96ki-yvLKxIB7ld8IB6wtwSnFnHU1lJlS… [docs.google.com] Notes: 1. Updates to Statements of Interest: Kathy Kleiman is a Visiting Scholar to American University. 2. Brief discussion of comments (if any) on the input for the Sunrise Questions already discussed relating to the survey data: Questions 3, 4, 5(b), and 6: Question on Sunrise Charter Question 4 re: ability to change certain things in a subsequent round of a TLD. What is in scope for RPMs and what is not? for example, pricing might be more in scope for the SubPro PDP WG. 3. Begin analysis of previously collected data with respect to the Claims Charter Questions: -- AG Review of TMCH and INTA Cost Impact Survey -- previously shared with the WG. WG reviewed the data and met with AG. In August 2017 Lori Schulman of INTA present the results of the survey and the WG asked some questions. -- Spreadsheet: First tab is the source documents, second/third tabs are excerpts and quotes from the data sources that staff suggests may be helpful in answer the charter questions. Staff Summary is in column B, but this is not a staff attempt to capture all the information, but to facilitate the review. 2. Proposed Process for Additional Data: -- Section 5: If any Sub Team or WG members have data that could answer a charter question, or particular expertise, can provide it. -- Enlarged the window for Individual Proposals -- opening 30 January and closing 20 February. -- It is not the intention to have WG members do what was originally asked of staff. Given the work that has been done since the original data suggestions, and given the AG surveys, WG members are being asked to leverage their expertise and knowledge that if there is information out there that we don't already have they should submit it. Workload: Pick 2 data sources and try to review all of the charter questions. Sunrise Preamble Charter Questions: Additional data: George Kirikos: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/2019-January/000188.html George Kirikos: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-sunrise/2019-January/000189.html --- The marks that Deloitte puts in the TMCH is just marks that have been registered in a jurisdiction -- but Deloitte cannot determine if it is a valid mark, just that it is registered. -- For the purposes of Sunrise Claims in the TMCH there was a rule in implementation that TM owners could rely on proof of use, but the use is not the same as the kind of use that would make for a valid TM in substantive law. -- Issue for full WG TMCH review.

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REVISED: [HOMEWORK] Review 2 Source Documents & Answer All Charter Questions - Due Wed 14:00 UTC
by Ariel Liang Jan. 30, 2019

Jan. 30, 2019

Dear Sunrise Sub Team members, After discussion with the Sub Team Co-Chairs about suggestions from Kristine and others, the homework assignment for this week has been amended and the deadline has been extended. By Wednesday, 30 January at 14:00 UTC, the Sunrise Sub Team is tasked to focus on reviewing the following source documents and provide input in the Google Docs set up for ALL Sunrise Charter Questions. * When providing input, please note the source name and page/slide number of the previously collected data. * By the deadline, the Google Docs will be locked to prevent further editing and their PDFs will be circulated to the Sub Team. Staff will accept and indicate the new input in the Google Doc for the ease of viewing. Source Documents: 1. Analysis Group Independent Review of TMCH Services: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/64066042/Analysis%20Group%… * Response to follow up questions - Jun 2017: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2017-June/002043.html * Response to follow up questions - Jul 2017: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2017-July/002257.html 2. INTA New gTLD Impact Study for CCT-RT: * Slide 1: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69277722/INTA New gTLD Cost Impact Study Presentation - 30 Aug.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1504147055000&api=v2<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69277722/INTA%20New%20gTLD…> * Slide 2: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_do… Google Docs: * Preamble Sunrise Charter Question: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ph-QXnQLWPVXCDVtM8l51r8Nt0Xojil-CR0fU6c… * Sunrise Charter Question 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zi5rDXEkLGMuuRdSgXncOoPVO3vR783yQQ1JYMH… * Sunrise Charter Question 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k8SXcZRSzluqAVkTxYJL63qbBt_A8e9vZNdoKJp… * Sunrise Charter Question 3: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10npR7b_6WWJZ6J20583GNq2OLM4jBp-sS-Yeq56… * Sunrise Charter Question 4: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ecm9e0jiA6dPsUcACNlHOLgFD5tZPgU3PzF3WtD… * Sunrise Charter Question 5a: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyuNzBmNDwoZeTd5_y4-WYM7aW3xHdKd0e5QuDA… * Sunrise Charter Question 5b: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FMnziYZo0vZdgLVS89wtCQ4Cb5J9tkM_D17r7eC… * Sunrise Charter Question 6: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15sQKDNohg3Cp6i35U9NKo3r1R_-fxjLHm4D7ant… * Sunrise Charter Question 7: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cbCKnoIzu5ok3OS5dLi1Kw6dh0-OHa0cjDo1LEv… * Sunrise Charter Question 8: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aovilYvgbzf0GXyVN1sBUC2BZCsabnkEvKoQ9SJ… * Sunrise Charter Question 9: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IvPOFuKMmNdJNyaUmzcnnLsb_-Qmkejn-rvGp3f… * Sunrise Charter Question 10: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19aBDQ-QFPPYcxwKiR7v5ruojFEYgtggET59N8bH… * Sunrise Charter Question 11: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sKYwbyUrWYOg2FKzSuZLobdwzi10CZnRgT6SsZr… * Sunrise Charter Question 12: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jz_VC-96ki-yvLKxIB7ld8IB6wtwSnFnHU1lJlS… How to Use the Analysis Tool (Google Spreadsheet): Some Sub Team members have voiced difficulties/confusion when using the Analysis Tool: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SzvdmVhY8dZ4I_ZGVoN5lOSueHNzbm1jQEr…. Staff have included some further instruction below to assist: * Source Tab includes direct download links to the Sunrise related data collected between December 2016 and March 2018, including reports, slides, and other documents. They are the same documents as those mentioned in the Summary Table. * Sunrise Tab includes excerpts/quotes from the previously collected data: * The excerpts/quotes are directly copied from the source documents. Relevant page/slide reference to the actual source documents are included in the parenthesis on the top. * Staff believe the data in the excerpts/quotes may assist in answering the final agreed Charter questions, but this exercise is not staff’s attempt to directly answer the Charter questions. * In Column B, Staff provided the summaries of the excerpts/quotes to facilitate your viewing. * The excerpts/quotes cited by Staff are based on our own understanding of the previously collected data. They are meant to speed up the Sub Team’s review of the data but not meant to be exclusive. * Sub Team members are encouraged to download and reference the actual source documents, linked from the Source Tab, to cite relevant information that may help answer the final agreed Charter questions. Thank you for your time and contribution. Best Regards, Mary, Julie, Berry, and Ariel

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Apologies
by Greg Shatan Jan. 30, 2019

Jan. 30, 2019

All, With apologies, I will be unable to attend today’s call due to a speaking engagements. You will all be in capable hands with David McAuley. Greg

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Cross-over information from SubPro
by Dorrain, Kristine Jan. 29, 2019

Jan. 29, 2019

Hi everyone, Today in the SubPro review of public comments on the initial report, my subgroup reviewed responses related to reserved names, specifically as related to sunrise. I've attached the relevant summary of public comments. This may be a useful resource as most SO/AC comments are only submitted with fairly significant support (or lack of significant disagreement at least) of that group's membership. I recommend we include this in our list of sources, but would be open to discussion. Best, Kristine Kristine Dorrain Sr. Corp Counsel - IP | Amazon | 206.740.9339 dorraink(a)amazon.com<mailto:dorraink@amazon.com>

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Sunrise and Claims Apologies
by Susan Payne Jan. 29, 2019

Jan. 29, 2019

Apologies, I am unlikely to be able to make the Sunrise and Claims Subgroup calls this week due to a conflict. Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy Valideus 28-30 Little Russell Street London WC1A 2HN United Kingdom

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